out of the crucible and into the inferno. life is looking good

You want to make changes for some kind of perception that the economy is broken.

OK, I get that. But nobody in their right mind would change so many things in such a complicated system in such short order as you are. I already posted a thread with the changes that are happening in the next 7 weeks, and now I read about the elimination of meta 0 items from loot drops. Yes, I recognize this merely moves the wealth from the mission runners to the miners and industrialists.

But are you planning on changing SO many things simultaneously, you will be introducing chaos into the economy.
Sure, eventually it will all settle and new equilibriums reached.

But at what cost? How many subscribers are going to throw their arms in the air with frustration and pack it in?
You might get them all back, maybe. I would suggest why risk it?

Slow down the process. Change things slowly, iteratively. Not all at once.
If a real life economist suggested making all these changes in such a short span in a 400,000 person economy, they would be fired on the spot. No one knows, especially you CCP, about where this is all going to lead. And many of us don't like change and uncertainty. No real life economy does, and Eve's economy is complex enough to emulate one.

out of the crucible and into the inferno. life is looking good

this

I fit up a crappy blackbird .

In the last year Tier 2 Battlecruisers have gone from 26 million to 47 million, Battleships are up to at Tier 1, 45mil > 85mil, Tier 2, 75mil > 135mil and Tier 3, 110 > 210mil.

Across the board prices are still rising and while that is fine for power players that leaves casuals and people without 3 accounts playing a much more difficult game of second job online then was previously coined for EVE.

I think it is about time they fixed the economy now before people who don't have 6 hours a day to grind up and leave because all the awesome new Ships CCP is releasing have to be flown with kids gloves because there goes halve your bank if you risk it.

In the last year Tier 2 Battlecruisers have gone from 26 million to 47 million, Battleships are up to at Tier 1, 45mil > 85mil, Tier 2, 75mil > 135mil and Tier 3, 110 > 210mil.

Across the board prices are still rising and while that is fine for power players that leaves casuals and people without 3 accounts playing a much more difficult game of second job online then was previously coined for EVE.

I think it is about time they fixed the economy now before people who don't have 6 hours a day to grind up and leave because all the awesome new Ships CCP is releasing have to be flown with kids gloves because there goes halve your bank if you risk it.

When prices go up more, people will start appreciating smaller/cheaper ships again.
Low prices hurt the game more than high do, because of decadence and the loss of emotional value.

In the last year Tier 2 Battlecruisers have gone from 26 million to 47 million, Battleships are up to at Tier 1, 45mil > 85mil, Tier 2, 75mil > 135mil and Tier 3, 110 > 210mil.

Across the board prices are still rising and while that is fine for power players that leaves casuals and people without 3 accounts playing a much more difficult game of second job online then was previously coined for EVE.

There is no real need for low prices. Prices were much worse many years ago.
When prices go up more, people will start appreciating smaller/cheaper ships again.
Low prices hurt the game more than high do, because of decadence and the loss of emotional value.

TL;DR:

Higher prices means we will have more variety in space,
cowards and spoiled brats will remove themselves over time,
people will start appreciating again what they have worked for !

Perfect !

Slow down the process. Change things slowly, iteratively. Not all at once.
If a real life economist suggested making all these changes in such a short span in a 400,000 person economy, they would be fired on the spot. No one knows, especially you CCP, about where this is all going to lead. And many of us don't like change and uncertainty. No real life economy does, and Eve's economy is complex enough to emulate one.

As far as appreciating smaller/cheaper ships again thats only going to happen if they're actually any good. Right now the majority don't fly cruisers and frigs because they're rubbish, not because they're so massively wealthy that they can afford to burn isk all the time. Ship diversity is going to rely exclusively on CCP getting the tiericide ship rebalancing right because otherwise pvp will simply be everyone flying around in the defacto OP cruiser or frig rather than the defato OP BC. Yeah, thats really good for diversity.

Why also do you think Frigates and Cruisers are always primaried in battle? It's not because they're weak, which they are, but because they are extremely annoying if not dealt with early on.

You do not need the big fancy pants ship to have fun. In fact, flying what you can afford to loose and not giving a damn is where the fun is.

Slow down the process. Change things slowly, iteratively. Not all at once.
If a real life economist suggested making all these changes in such a short span in a 400,000 person economy, they would be fired on the spot. No one knows, especially you CCP, about where this is all going to lead. And many of us don't like change and uncertainty. No real life economy does, and Eve's economy is complex enough to emulate one.

Hopefully with the RMT purge, prices will begin to fall

[quote=Lyron-Baktos]Honestly I think we're about to see a recession in EVE.

LOL you really think this

While yes there were plenty of bots grinding isk from bounties far far more were mining.

The removal of BOTs is going to put a serious damper on the supply of minerals. how much? I don't know but I having tried my hand at mining I suspect that the vast majority of minerals that are mined are done so by bots so I expect to see a massive reduction in the supply of minerals which is going to equate a massive increase in price.

It's going to be a very interesting experiment. I'm still trying to decide where all this is going to end up.

It's all going to depend on how much they tinker with the ISK supply. I fully expect prices on everything to rise as the supply of raw materials is decimated. however if they reduce the influx of isk sufficiently we won't see much change in prices

What will happen regardless is a reduction in real economic activity. Reduced supply or minerals will naturally result in a decreased supply of finished goods.

I think it's an open question on whether or not human miners are really capable of supplying the market for minerals. and yeah I know we'll eventually reach a new equilibrium but that equilibrium is likely to at a much smaller volume than currently

Honestly I think we're about to see a recession in EVE.

Obviously you don't even understand what a "recession" is.