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jj74 Fatalix Aftermath	Posted - 2008.11.13 01:25:00 - [31] I'm running XP with Premium, 3 accounts simultaneously in Empire around Jita for the last 4 hours :3 no probs here
Speedy Fast Caldari Muramasa Inc	Posted - 2008.11.13 01:33:00 - [32] Originally by: Padan Fain Buy a new computer. is nothing to do with a new computer, it has to do with eve using more memory and cpu with QR, i dont care how good your computer is it doesnt change the fact that eve is suddenly more demanding sure a better computer may not notice it much or at all but that will not change that fact that eve is more demanding possibly due to a leak or because the changes simply need more horsepower and the devs didnt say the requirements would change so my guess would be a leak
Padan Fain	Posted - 2008.11.13 01:46:00 - [33] Originally by: Speedy Fast Originally by: Padan Fain Buy a new computer. is nothing to do with a new computer, it has to do with eve using more memory and cpu with QR, i dont care how good your computer is it doesnt change the fact that eve is suddenly more demanding sure a better computer may not notice it much or at all but that will not change that fact that eve is more demanding possibly due to a leak or because the changes simply need more horsepower and the devs didnt say the requirements would change so my guess would be a leak I dunno, I was running 4 accounts simultaneously on my new computer today from 9am to 3pm with one of the accounts running max premium graphics at 1920x1200 res... and I didn't have any problems. I'm pretty sure your computer is teh suck.
Khraunus Amarr Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2008.11.13 01:48:00 - [34] This problem was on test server as well CCP didn't take heed of it CCP released the patch anyway Suffering ensues Most importantly, how are you supposed to tell whether this is part of my post or my signature?
Speedy Fast Caldari Muramasa Inc	Posted - 2008.11.13 01:52:00 - [35] Edited by: Speedy Fast on 13/11/2008 01:54:23 Originally by: Padan Fain Originally by: Speedy Fast Originally by: Padan Fain Buy a new computer. is nothing to do with a new computer, it has to do with eve using more memory and cpu with QR, i dont care how good your computer is it doesnt change the fact that eve is suddenly more demanding sure a better computer may not notice it much or at all but that will not change that fact that eve is more demanding possibly due to a leak or because the changes simply need more horsepower and the devs didnt say the requirements would change so my guess would be a leak I dunno, I was running 4 accounts simultaneously on my new computer today from 9am to 3pm with one of the accounts running max premium graphics at 1920x1200 res... and I didn't have any problems. I'm pretty sure your computer is teh suck. plz read my post again you failed to see my point the whole point of my post is that eve is more demanding then it was before QR, i'm not talking about any issues that may arise from that i'm simply saying that its more demanding so your computer can handle it, great so can mine but it doesnt change that fact that its more demanding weather it effects your game play or not
Myrkala Minmatar Aurora Acclivitous	Posted - 2008.11.13 02:06:00 - [36] I have this too, Trinity hulks like a hobo... * Windows load slow * Right Click slow * Everything slow * Hick-ups regularly (10 seconds) I quit the client (it crashed when i X'd in window mode) Ran with classic, seemed fine. "Ruppie ain't no puppie."
Last Wolf Umbra Wing	Posted - 2008.11.13 02:07:00 - [37] Windows xp pro 64-bit 4gig memory 2.5Ghz AMD Phenom X4 9850 Black Edition ATI SAPPHIRE TOXIC HD 3870 512MB GDDR4 I doubt it's my computer. Its only ~4 months old. Besides, I'm never gonna give you up, never gonna let you down
IR Scoutar Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2008.11.13 02:19:00 - [38] most likly a driver thing
Monkeera	Posted - 2008.11.13 02:47:00 - [39] noticed my mp3s were sounding dodgy.... Eve was using almost 500k game was playing fine, but then I have 4 gigs windows XP user
Emperor D'Hoffryn No Quarter. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.11.13 02:48:00 - [40] Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 12/11/2008 22:16:28 Originally by: NightF0x Originally by: Last Wolf Gone from 350k to 500k in about 2 minutes. CTD every 15-20 minutes or so. My alt is on the classic client and is having no problems at all. staying at 359k memory for the last hour. 1. Uninstall Vista 2. Go back to XP Pro 3. ? 4. Profit Uhm, if your on that tone, then uninstall all the XP ** and Vista and install Windows Server 2008 that basicly owns all other Microsoft OS'es at the same time. Yes i'm using Windows Server 2008, and that's the best OS that exist atm, until Windows Server 2008 RC2 (Windows Server 7) is out. hate to break it to you, but server 2008 uses the exact same codebase as Vista. It just installs with different default settings....the most important of which is probably having Aero disabled out of the box. If you went to all the trouble of turning all that stuff back on...then surprise, you are actually running vista with MORE overhead...server has extra stuff on by default that vista does not. I know this cause I work at Microsoft, and both OSes build from the exact same library. Originally by:** Meridius Dex I could actually fit a Thorax WITH LASERS and get better DPS, better speed, better tank and - wait for it - better cap stability

E Vile Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.11.13 02:51:00 - [41] Maybe it's the ATI drivers? Anyone with leaks using Nvidia? I'm using a Nvidia 9600gt oc with 2gig ram on a AMD 3700 and so far it's been smooth. Although I don't have a "before" memory usage to base any actual numbers on. I would ask if it's the UI but someone mentioned it was also happening in stations.
Speedy Fast Caldari Muramasa Inc	Posted - 2008.11.13 02:54:00 - [42] 9800 gtx here, havent had any crashing but using a lot more memory and possibly more cpu
NightmareX D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.11.13 03:00:00 - [43] Edited by: NightmareX on 13/11/2008 03:04:38 Originally by: Emperor D'Hoffryn Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 12/11/2008 22:16:28 Originally by: NightF0x Originally by: Last Wolf Gone from 350k to 500k in about 2 minutes. CTD every 15-20 minutes or so. My alt is on the classic client and is having no problems at all. staying at 359k memory for the last hour. 1. Uninstall Vista 2. Go back to XP Pro 3. ? 4. Profit Uhm, if your on that tone, then uninstall all the XP **** and Vista and install Windows Server 2008 that basicly owns all other Microsoft OS'es at the same time. Yes i'm using Windows Server 2008, and that's the best OS that exist atm, until Windows Server 2008 RC2 (Windows Server 7) is out. hate to break it to you, but server 2008 uses the exact same codebase as Vista. It just installs with different default settings....the most important of which is probably having Aero disabled out of the box. If you went to all the trouble of turning all that stuff back on...then surprise, you are actually running vista with MORE overhead...server has extra stuff on by default that vista does not. I know this cause I work at Microsoft, and both OSes build from the exact same library. So can you tell me why the 64-bit Server 2008 takes 1 GB less space than the 64-bit Windows Vista?. Server 2008 (64-bit) takes 2.49 GB while Windows Vista (64.bit) takes 3.5 GB. They have for sure removed some crap from 1 GB. Because Server 2008 doesn't have all of the crap and bloatware as Vista have. For me, Windows Server 2008 is running much better than Windows Vista anyways. And yeah, Windows Server 2008 is running on the same core as Vista, but hell, Windows 7 or Windows Server 7 is going to do the same. The core is not the problem with the OS'es here. Check out my new flash web page 'Alpha Strike'
Bors DeGanis	Posted - 2008.11.13 03:03:00 - [44] Having no issues on my rig. Running 2 premium clients in Vista, smooth as a baby's butt after 8ish hours... Man I need a life.
Plim Gallente Oursulaert Technology Institute	Posted - 2008.11.13 03:05:00 - [45] I'm running classic on XP and i'm getting some weird lag that wasn't there before. Its like the interface takes longer to do anything. EVE 'Megacorp or STFU' Online
Talon Calais Gallente Diplomatic Disruption Chain of Chaos	Posted - 2008.11.13 03:54:00 - [46] 2 Premium accounts running fine, nothing overclocked / tweaked timings. Vista Basic (No Aero interface) AMD X2 4200+ 4gb ram ATI x1950 Pro
F90OEX F9X	Posted - 2008.11.13 04:34:00 - [47] Originally by: Khraunus This problem was on test server as well CCP didn't take heed of it CCP released the patch anyway Suffering ensues This .. x 1000 There was 2-3 devs in local that day they released that patch so I know they where aware of the problem, most ppl from what I saw where having memory problems. At times I was over 1gb of memory.
Kazang Gallente Arbitrary Freedom	Posted - 2008.11.13 04:49:00 - [48] The two clients im running are using 900k and 500k, which is alot, but im not noticing any performance issues. I am using 2gb ram and 2.4ghz quad core with XP pro. Kazang
Kittamaru Gallente Democracy of Klingon Brothers Utterly Harmless	Posted - 2008.11.13 05:22:00 - [49] Seem to have the same problem here...
NoNah	Posted - 2008.11.13 05:36:00 - [50] Originally by: Mankirks Wife Originally by: Kyra Felann Originally by: Last Wolf k means x 1000. so 350,000 memory bytes (or bits, always forget which) are being used. Wrong. One kilobyte is 1024 bytes, not 1000. 8 bits = one byte. Damn, beat me to it Kilo- prefix in computers is generally taken to mean 1024, as this is 2 to the 10th power. Unless you're listening to something from a marketer or an advertisement. Then it means 1000, because that gives bigger (though inaccurate) numbers. Actually, you're both wrong. You're talking about Kibibytes, as long as it's about binary units. The decimal system doesn't really have the Kibi, Mebi, Gibi, Tebi etc prefixes and are hence normally confused. kb is kilobytes(decimal) which will always be 1000 bytes. Kb would then be Kilobytes(binary), or in better phrasing Kibibytes(Normally KiB) which is normally 2^10 = 1024 bytes. The reason people still call it kilobytes are really just that they're sloppy. People just won't adapt. =( Now, of course some are even sloppier and hence there's no real uniform acceptance regarding kilo's capitilization. k is the correct one but K has been used aswell, and is more in line with the majority of the prefixes. M and above is however capital. Hekto and below are lowercase. Parrots, commence! Postcount: 748836

Dal Deinvisu Ventis Secundis	Posted - 2008.11.13 06:59:00 - [51] Task Manager shows eve eating up an additional 8MBs a second sitting in station.
Joss Sparq Caldari ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.13 07:20:00 - [52] Phenom Quad-core 4GB 1066mhz RAM GTX 260 OC Vista Ultimate 32 bit Two clients (both Premium) running nicely together while I switch between them and the episode of NCIS I'm half watching.
Misanth RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE	Posted - 2008.11.13 07:43:00 - [53] No lag or memory leak for me, CPU is at 5% and memory like it was before, while running multiple clients. However, like some people described above, I do have a delay on opening of windows. Show Info, Market, Escape menu, all takes 0.5-3sec to open, and game gets frozen while opening it. Module activation is live, typing is live, I tested "duels" between some of my characters and everything runs smooth. Just the darn windows that opens late for some weird reason.
Alex Harumichi Gallente Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.11.13 08:11:00 - [54] Edited by: Alex Harumichi on 13/11/2008 08:11:41 Noticed the same thing last night. Running XP with radeon 4850 (iirc) and 2 gigs memory... game started getting choppy and I looked at the memory stats, and the thing was eating up huge amounts of memory (as in: most of my 2 gigs). Looks like a memory leak. Bad CCP. Added: running premium graphics here.
Black Tahee1	Posted - 2008.11.13 08:17:00 - [55] Originally by: Emperor D'Hoffryn Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 12/11/2008 22:16:28 Originally by: NightF0x Originally by: Last Wolf Gone from 350k to 500k in about 2 minutes. CTD every 15-20 minutes or so. My alt is on the classic client and is having no problems at all. staying at 359k memory for the last hour. 1. Uninstall Vista 2. Go back to XP Pro 3. ? 4. Profit Uhm, if your on that tone, then uninstall all the XP **** and Vista and install Windows Server 2008 that basicly owns all other Microsoft OS'es at the same time. Yes i'm using Windows Server 2008, and that's the best OS that exist atm, until Windows Server 2008 RC2 (Windows Server 7) is out. hate to break it to you, but server 2008 uses the exact same codebase as Vista. It just installs with different default settings....the most important of which is probably having Aero disabled out of the box. If you went to all the trouble of turning all that stuff back on...then surprise, you are actually running vista with MORE overhead...server has extra stuff on by default that vista does not. I know this cause I work at Microsoft, and both OSes build from the exact same library. You sir fail as much as your alliance, if you really work for microsoft you should know that you are talking crap because the server edition has completely different optimisation in use than vista.
Hermiat	Posted - 2008.11.13 09:31:00 - [56] Originally by: Black Tahee1 Originally by: Emperor D'Hoffryn Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 12/11/2008 22:16:28 Uhm, if your on that tone, then uninstall all the XP **** and Vista and install Windows Server 2008 that basicly owns all other Microsoft OS'es at the same time. Yes i'm using Windows Server 2008, and that's the best OS that exist atm, until Windows Server 2008 RC2 (Windows Server 7) is out. hate to break it to you, but server 2008 uses the exact same codebase as Vista. It just installs with different default settings....the most important of which is probably having Aero disabled out of the box. If you went to all the trouble of turning all that stuff back on...then surprise, you are actually running vista with MORE overhead...server has extra stuff on by default that vista does not. I know this cause I work at Microsoft, and both OSes build from the exact same library. You sir fail as much as your alliance, if you really work for microsoft you should know that you are talking crap because the server edition has completely different optimisation in use than vista. No, actually, Server 2008 is compiled from exactly the same codebase as Vista, both kernel and userland alike. The only differing thing about Server 2008 is that it is modular and stripped down during install to not install many shards of bollox that is not needed for a server OS. You can, in fact quite easily bloat server 2008 to be even fatter than a regular Vista install. The monolithic kernel is the same on both platforms and no extra "optimisations" are performed. The only reason it performs better is due to a cut down default component base install. Microsoft have learned a valuable lesson with their server operating systems by not installing and enabling every available service under the sun, as the more services available, the more potential security flaws and holes left to exploit, so things are installed when needed as roles and functions. I have been to 6 technet seminars now and many, many microsoft development workshops. The technet guys have detailed this very subject numerous times. It is a very commonly asked question, i.e. "What is the difference between Vista and Server 2008". Mainly, compnent install and slightyly different default install configurations. The link below details the above and gives conclusions. Linkage
Sleepkevert Amarr Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.11.13 09:45:00 - [57] I know for a fact that windows server 2008 has a different TCP/IP stack which was optimized. So no, they are not the same. Dunno about other differences though. _ Add your own line!
Mankirks Wife	Posted - 2008.11.13 09:53:00 - [58] Classic client here - noticed the game (and especially chat windows) getting sluggish after a few hours of play. Checked the task manager, sure enough Eve was using huge amounts of RAM. There's a thread on the Known Issues and Workarounds page about a similar issue - periodic freezes. I know from an old computer I had a similar issue with in another game that memory leaks + crap IDE/SATA drivers can cause this (basically, every time some of the 'lost' memory gets paged out because the game isn't accessing it anymore, the entire system freezes for a moment) ---
Tama Rens	Posted - 2008.11.13 10:10:00 - [59] Edited by: Tama Rens on 13/11/2008 10:13:29 Originally by: Khraunus This problem was on test server as well CCP didn't take heed of it CCP released the patch anyway Suffering ensues Indeed? I had perhaps thought that this problem failed to appear in testing... Hearing that it did... I too have experienced the "lag" spikes that make playing a pain after 30 minutes or so. While I can't say it appears my memory usage has increased, I can say my cpu load has increased. Pre QR I was able to easily run 2 premium clients for hours with np... Now, I have to relog as one account seems to get stuck. Interesting too, it's always the same account that has the issues. I use one installation to run both clients - and the settings are identical, simply a different account is used. It doesn't matter which I log in first, it's always my "main" account that ends up having the issue while the other account (again, doesn't matter which I use - I have 4 in total) stays relatively fine. Edited to add: Running XP Pro with 2 gb ram and an 8800GT
Bimjo Caldari Domination. Sc0rched Earth	Posted - 2008.11.13 10:23:00 - [60] Originally by: Padan Fain Originally by: Speedy Fast Originally by: Padan Fain Buy a new computer. is nothing to do with a new computer, it has to do with eve using more memory and cpu with QR, i dont care how good your computer is it doesnt change the fact that eve is suddenly more demanding sure a better computer may not notice it much or at all but that will not change that fact that eve is more demanding possibly due to a leak or because the changes simply need more horsepower and the devs didnt say the requirements would change so my guess would be a leak I dunno, I was running 4 accounts simultaneously on my new computer today from 9am to 3pm with one of the accounts running max premium graphics at 1920x1200 res... and I didn't have any problems. I'm pretty sure your computer is teh suck. Obvious 12 year old childish troll is obvious



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