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DHB WildCat BURN EDEN Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.11.13 13:14:00 - [1] Webs have been used for a miriad of different purposes. Sometimes to keep smaller ships in range. Sometimes to hold targets in a bubble. Sometimes to slow down targets long enough to get range and run. I thought the web nerf really wouldnt effect me too badly. However today I have experienced a terrible event multiple times, that I fear will become the norm. I have had several Battleships today, webbed and scrambed in various low secs. All flashing red all engaging. However, with todays super passive tanks, and **ING BULL** webs. All targets were able to tank long enough and slowboat back to the gate and jump out! Before the nerf this was not even slightly possible. Now the laugh as they tank and jump out! We need a way to stop this from happening. PVP, is dieing very quickly these days! WildCat
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.11.13 13:17:00 - [2] Orenji-kun?!?! - DesuSigs
DubanFP Caldari Evil ALT Corp	Posted - 2008.11.13 13:17:00 - [3] Edited by: DubanFP on 13/11/2008 13:21:28 Yeah, some of this stuff is crazy. Maybe the only way is to use a nanoship to bump them off the gate. Oh, wait... Seriously though this patch is definately going to force a rethinking of the midslots. That 4th utillity mid-slot people have enjoyed on a lot of ships is going to have to go in favor of more tackle. The 2 pt scram now breaks MWD and a second web is always an option. _______________ "White, Black, Minmitar, Achura, Male or Female it doesn't matter to me. I'm an equal opportunity killer"
Muadeeb Ousil Minmatar Office linebackers Rigor Mortis Mortalis	Posted - 2008.11.13 13:22:00 - [4] Here's a better idea, get off the frigen gate and stop blocking them from coming back into low-sec. Low sec PvE'rs are like fish, kill to many and they stop spawning - there should be a killing quota in place to stop them getting farmed out. Killing them at gates is a sure fire way to ensure they don't even want to attempt to do missions or mining in belts. So stop camping a single spot, and start scanning them out during missions and start popping them from system to system. Sounds like effort huh, well welcome to the new eve.
Nicholas Barker Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.11.13 13:26:00 - [5] Originally by: Muadeeb Ousil effort DHB's too old school for that. --------- I JUST FOUND THE GAME!
DHB WildCat BURN EDEN Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.11.13 13:29:00 - [6] You dont get it guys. Im trying to kill the god damn pirates! They outnumber us, they use the insane tanks of this game to slow boat to the gate the were camping, to only deagress and jump out. Nothing you can do about it. We had 3 webs on most of these guys, and the still slow boated 12km back to the gate. I would use a nano ship to bump them back off, but guess what!/ Not an option either. This patch has made ships more invulnerable than nano ships ever were. WildCat
TimMc Gallente Brutal Deliverance	Posted - 2008.11.13 13:32:00 - [7] Edited by: TimMc on 13/11/2008 13:33:10 bleh
Ghost Goat	Posted - 2008.11.13 13:32:00 - [8] Originally by: DubanFP rethinking ohh noess we cant allow this can we , this is outrageous
Captain Hack Caldari	Posted - 2008.11.13 13:35:00 - [9] adapt or die better die and give me your stuff *********************** ***********************
Yakia TovilToba Halliburton Inc.	Posted - 2008.11.13 13:36:00 - [10] You didn't bring down a ship that had tripple web on it and was slowboating 12km back to the gate ? Sounds like a DPS problem to me. What ships and weapons were you using ? Maybe get some more damgemodules or something.

eliminator2 Gallente Fatality. Heretic Nation	Posted - 2008.11.13 13:36:00 - [11] Originally by: DHB WildCat You dont get it guys. Im trying to kill the god damn pirates! They outnumber us, they use the insane tanks of this game to slow boat to the gate the were camping, to only deagress and jump out. Nothing you can do about it. We had 3 webs on most of these guys, and the still slow boated 12km back to the gate. I would use a nano ship to bump them back off, but guess what!/ Not an option either. This patch has made ships more invulnerable than nano ships ever were. WildCat when i read your first post i though o u were solo and then i read this and you with 2 friends maybe all 3 of u with webs on them and they still slowboat back what about people that like to solo we carnt even hold em still CCP once said they were tyrin to make it solo for people but we can all agree that is never going to happen again we deffenetly need more than one web to hold someone we need more people to kill targets and to get to them we nee dmore people for everything BLOB online is here welcome to blob online guys ^^
Terraform Gallente Recreation Of The World	Posted - 2008.11.13 13:38:00 - [12] I agree that it's definitely a nerf to gatecamping... but i fail to see how that's even remotely a bad thing. I have entered low-sec 4 times in my whole eve-existence, ALL of them ended with me dead in a gatecamp, 2 of them with my pod being squished as well. I can't really say i have any sympathy for gatecampers at all.
Rivqua Caldari Omega Wing R.E.P.O.	Posted - 2008.11.13 13:38:00 - [13] Originally by: DHB WildCat You dont get it guys. Im trying to kill the god damn pirates! They outnumber us, they use the insane tanks of this game to slow boat to the gate the were camping, to only deagress and jump out. Nothing you can do about it. We had 3 webs on most of these guys, and the still slow boated 12km back to the gate. I would use a nano ship to bump them back off, but guess what!/ Not an option either. This patch has made ships more invulnerable than nano ships ever were. WildCat DHB, I really feel for you, it's sad that it's so difficult to keep them from fleeing so easily. A Question, you mention you had 3 webs on most of them? What about, 2 webs and a 2pt Scram to keep them off their MWD? I r thinking a normal BS, will do maybe 100 base nowdays, that's 16,8m/sec with 2 webs, or 29m/sec if they were lucky and brought a AB. That's slower then the old MWD (1000m/sec) - 90% web, about 100m/sec. Try it out, please tell us how it works :) /Riv
IR Scoutar Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2008.11.13 13:39:00 - [14] oh i know exactly what you mean still tears are delicious i cant wait for ccp tears
The Djego Minmatar merovinger inc	Posted - 2008.11.13 13:49:00 - [15] Originally by: Terraform I agree that it's definitely a nerf to gatecamping... but i fail to see how that's even remotely a bad thing. I have entered low-sec 4 times in my whole eve-existence, ALL of them ended with me dead in a gatecamp, 2 of them with my pod being squished as well. I can't really say i have any sympathy for gatecampers at all. Just wow, there is a diffrence in getting killed in a Gate camp and pulling up a fight at a gate camp. Last time I get killed by a gate camp I was nearly sleeping and compleetly drunk, other that this conditons I did preaty fine in Low Sec where I did my PVP on a regular Basis. Also this Tread is not paticular on Gatecamps if you read the OP again, this is about fighting at gates what is kind a diffrence if you know how things work in Low Sec aside from getting killed at the entry points. I reccon this problem now about 2 Month ago, its somewhere on the first pages of the Blaster Thread that holding of ships out of Jump Range while fighting at gates is mostly broken with the 60% Web, even with Dualwebs or Web and Scrambler at once. ---- Nerf Tank - Boost Gank! Originally by: Amantus Real men don't need to get into blaster range.
Ocih	Posted - 2008.11.13 13:57:00 - [16] Battleships have no scan resolution, poor tracking speed, move slow. With a 90% web an Abby would be moving at 8 m/s be getting hit for premium damage and would die on a gate 100% of the time. I can't say if you are classical Burn Eden or new school but get out of your cloaked, Torp Raven and try a new ship. No?
Popperr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.11.13 13:59:00 - [17] did you try camping both sides
Captain Hack Caldari	Posted - 2008.11.13 14:00:00 - [18] get your alt into rapier instead of falcon? *********************** ***********************
Garia666 Amarr T.H.U.G L.I.F.E White Core	Posted - 2008.11.13 14:05:00 - [19] hmm thanks for the warning www.garia.net
Karille Gallente Lordless	Posted - 2008.11.13 14:06:00 - [20] Originally by: Popperr did you try camping both sides Quoted for epic tactics.

Misina Arlath Amarr	Posted - 2008.11.13 14:10:00 - [21] Originally by: Ocih I can't say if you are classical Burn Eden or new school but get out of your cloaked, Torp Raven and try a new ship. No? This -------------------------------------------------- "Every complex problem has a solution which is easy, neat and wrong!"
Nifan	Posted - 2008.11.13 14:12:00 - [22] trolls make posts in colors
Malcanis RuffRyders Eradication Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.13 14:17:00 - [23] Originally by: Nifan trolls make posts in colors No you dont.
Sokratesz Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.11.13 14:21:00 - [24] Keep webs the way it is, nerf HP buffers and tanking rigs! Wyvern & Chimera fitting flowchart
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.11.13 14:22:00 - [25] Also, first in a DHB WildCat thread. - DesuSigs
Rhadamantine Game Community	Posted - 2008.11.13 14:28:00 - [26] Originally by: Sokratesz Keep webs the way it is, nerf HP buffers and tanking rigs! No. Give us buffs now, not more nerfs ffs. Regards. Rhadamantine.
Chaos Incarnate Faceless Logistics	Posted - 2008.11.13 14:30:00 - [27] Originally by: Rhadamantine Originally by: Sokratesz Keep webs the way it is, nerf HP buffers and tanking rigs! No. Give us buffs now, not more nerfs ffs. Yeah, don't nerf tanking, buff shooting! _____________________ My opinions plus a tablespoon of water may be substituted for your own.
Granmethedon III RuffRyders Eradication Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.13 14:33:00 - [28] Nerf! Buff! NERF! BUFF!
El Yatta Mercenary Forces	Posted - 2008.11.13 14:33:00 - [29] Originally by: Ocih Battleships have no scan resolution, poor tracking speed, move slow. With a 90% web an Abby would be moving at 8 m/s be getting hit for premium damage and would die on a gate 100% of the time. I can't say if you are classical Burn Eden or new school but get out of your cloaked, Torp Raven and try a new ship. No? 90% webs dont exist... _______________________________________________ Mercenary Forces
Ghost Goat	Posted - 2008.11.13 14:40:00 - [30] Originally by: Granmethedon III Nerf! Buff! NERF! BUFF! rabble RABBLE rabble



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