Been thinking about this (I'm using it. It's great. Thanks), and what I'd like to see in it, in addition to what it already does, is a value for the minerals that you have.

Mostly to keep the small graph from dropping every time that I buy a bunch of Trit to make stuff with. Biggest problem I can see is that you'd have to hit the assets API as well, to make it drop when used. unless you make the drop a manual one and just increment when you see a buy order being filled.


It's far from a major issue though. Just my OCD kicking in

Do you want to calculate mineral cost of your assets and see the graph with total actives including wallet and assets cost?

1. You have character transactions but no corporate transactions?

2. There doesn't seem to be a way to initiate the update of all characters and instead you have to go one by one?

3. You also don't track assets?

bah. forgot to tick recieve notifications.

Pretty much, yes. Just use the self cost for the minerals, I'd think?

But... you know, you really want to support the CAK system. Any plans for implementing that?

Test build of EVE Mentat 1.1.25 is ready:

• Customizable API keys support added
• Order history fixed

Please send me your feedbacks about this build.

Okay, I must be missing something simple. When I use the export button from the Market, it says it is putting the data in the Market logs folder that is within my Owner/Documents Folder section. When I try to put that path in Eve Mentat I get the big red X. The program won't eve try it. I've looked where the Eve Mentat website says the path should be and there is no data there.

EVE Mentat 1.1.25 Release

Major changes in this release:

• Customizable API keys support added
• Order history fixed

Full list of changes is available here.

See download link in the first post.

Database from previous version can be imported by selecting appropriate option at the first launch.

This release (1.1.25.736) pulled a keylogger alert in Norton Antivirus (Version 18.6.0.29) Yes, Mentat obtained from official website, yes ran it by VirusTotal (which I have no reason whatsoever to trust btw)- which passed. Go figure...

1.1.24 did not get flagged by Norton.

As always you have no proofs.
Is it so difficult to make screenshot and provide link to VirusTotal scan result?

I've just tested all executables and DLLs from EVE Mentat 1.1.25.736 and it's clear as always.

First time I've ever written about Mentat, so you can stuff the "As always..." where appropriate.

BTW - I only knew about VirusTotal because of the comment that I found on your support page where someone else posted this same issue about one of the releases (don't remember if current or a past release)

Norton pitched a fit at the point right after I pasted in the API key and hit submit, btw. Maybe that will help you out. Perhaps you need to get with Norton/Symantec.

I don't have time to post the screen shot, but I will post the results from the Norton quarantine:

[error] Updating character market orders (API)...
[error] Error 532: Failed getting market order information.
I am getting this error message. I have tried it with your default API requirements and I have tried it with full API access.

Is there a way to view graphs on your corp journal/wallet/buy/sell? I cannot find a way to make the balance and trade graphs be for the corp.

Unfortunately, but link ways to index page. I cannot see the report.

I think it could be the result of behavioral analysis. Let me explain.

User actions:
1. User copies key into clipboard
2. Then pastes into EVE Mentat
3. After pressing button "Next" EVE Mentat sends this information into the web (/account/Characters.xml.aspx request to obtain character list)

And AV software reports keylogger, because it "thinks" that EVE Mentat sends over the internet the same information that is stored in clipboard.

I seem to be having a problem with the cache importer. It worked fine yesterday I went to bed woke up this morning and now it's not working. Followed steps in the trouble shooting and still nothing. Is this a known issue with some kind of work around? Thanks for this great tool BTW makes trading a lot easier for a lazy person like me

I seem to be having a problem with the cache importer. It worked fine yesterday I went to bed woke up this morning and now it's not working. Followed steps in the trouble shooting and still nothing. Is this a known issue with some kind of work around? Thanks for this great tool BTW makes trading a lot easier for a lazy person like me

I have some of hte new t2 market orders and new battle cruisers on market orders but they arent showing up on my list of orders when I import things. Using hte version you just released

yes with this tool it is fantastic at managing your orders.


however for me it doesnt calculate profit well enough.

i use eve profit (a website) which takes the buys from my jita and character and the sells from my trading character and works out the profit from there.

these two tools put together really give you everything you will ever need as a trader =)

Are you using the self cost option, to set the cost for each item? At which point it'll show you the profit (though tax is an issue. I can see that being /tricky/ to work out.)

yeah.

is there a way to make it automatic?

yeah.

is there a way to make it automatic?

Not entirely automatic. But you can right click on the price in the transaction list and set price from there. so 2 clicks per item.

is there a way i can get my order's price status type thing to clear before importing new market data from my cache?


atm what happens is i run the igb checker and mentat tells me i have to update so many prices etc.

then i run it again half hour later - and the tool tells me i need to update prices. the problem is that it is telling me stuff it already told me on the first run through - so now i have to go through and manually check eve price change to see if i need to make it or not.

is there a way to wipe the slate clean after i have changed all my prices?

Been using for a few days now. Love it - many thanks.

I manage the max number of market orders and has made doing so much quicker and more efficient.

Looking forward to an Assets tab.

Keep up the great work.

I have 4 traders in one corp in different regions all using corp-orders to trade.

I use the IGB feature to scan and download the market data and then cache import in the market browser tab of evementat and I see it confirming it imports the data.

But when I do this I don't get the "overriden" highlight in the "corporate orders" even though I check that there is one overriden.

Can't figure out what I am doing wrong?

Any help appreciated

Agreed, this thing is great.

Quick Q, and apologies if I missed the answer in the old forum thread or this one - is there a way to import eve-central or marketeer data?

Cheers,
X

I need Corp Journals in this thing :D
One of the most epic tools that are out there! Good job Sir!

yeah.

is there a way to make it automatic?

I was wondering exactly the same thing as you can bring up exactly what you paid and what you received in transactions so I assume it would be relatively easy to do the maths including skills (and maybe standings?) to get exact profits for each unit

Not entirely automatic. But you can right click on the price in the transaction list and set price from there. so 2 clicks per item.

Problem with that is if you are in a highly competitive market, the price you pay can fluctuate by quite a lot so it taking that into account and taking the average of all bought and then the average of sold to give a total profit for an item

Just for the record, I have EVE Mentat working on my Mac with wine.

I'm just running the default wine from Macports, with:

winetricks dotnet20
winetricks dotnet30
winetricks gdiplus

I think that's all you need, I may have run winetricks for a few other things in the past, but I don't think so.

Many thanks for this awesome tool and all the work you put into it.

Please tell me you aren't planning to go to .NET 4.0 any time soon....

Edit: dunno if this is a change done on purpose by CCP but I expect a lot of bitching about it so would not be surprised if they turn it back :P

Works fine for me. Maybe its your locale setting in windows?

As of today, it seems that EVE is not using a point (".") anymore for ammounts of isk cents but a coma (","). When I try to copy-paste the recommended price from Mentat to my orders, this fails. It looks like Mentat tries to paste a "." into the EVE client even though in Mentat itself the ammounts are shown with comma's.

This effectively renders Mentat useless for fast order updating.

Ps, posted this on the Mentat site also.

Edit: dunno if this is a change done on purpose by CCP but I expect a lot of bitching about it so would not be surprised if they turn it back :P

Thanks for report. I'll take a look tonight.

I have the same problem with the comma and dots, can't use EVE Mentat until that is fixed, have to update orders manually sadly. If you can make us able to choose if we want to paste our prices with commas or dots then it will solve the problem.

...but at least I can Mentat for now :P

Test build: EVE Mentat 1.1.28

I've fixed issue with decimal delimiters. Now you are able to use system default delimiter for clipboard operations or choose it manually in preferences.

Looking forward for your feedback.

Hey, that's very strange, it's still not working for some reason.
When I try to paste the copied price from eve mentat, which has a comma, I just have that bzz sound.
If I try to paste just a comma in the Order price field, it works, but if I try to paste anything else, with the comma, it doesn't work.

If I try to paste a price with dots, it's same as before, it pastes 400m instead of 4m for example.


I was really not expecting that, this is pretty weird. I guess it's something related to windows and eve.

I think CCP really screwed it up now.... It seems that when I use my local (Dutch) settings, I can't paste anything with a decimal separator of any kind anymore into a market order....
So I can't even test if the Mentat test build is working as intended.


Don't really have time to double check and fiddle now but will get back on this.


Edit: double checked and fiddled anyway, who needs sleep right? The EVE client will simply not let me paste any ammount of isk into the modify order textbox that has a separator in it as long as I use the Dutch notation settings. Can paste 1000 isk fine but 1000,01(comma) isk ends up just leaving an empty textbox. 1000.01(point) ends up as 100001 isk.

So yeah, no way to test if your new build works for me till CCP figures that one out.


*switches back to US notation settings*

Just have created detailed bug report to CCP after deep investigation of this issue.

For those who can't trade with this I recommend to configure price increment to 1.00 ISK in EVE Mentat, and remove all cents from every order's price. It's sad of course, but can be temporary workaround.

Just have created detailed bug report to CCP after deep investigation of this issue.

For those who can't trade with this I recommend to configure price increment to 1.00 ISK in EVE Mentat, and remove all cents from every order's price. It's sad of course, but can be temporary workaround.

This is a great application, I actually use it because I can't find better, but I would GREATLY appreciate more corporation support added. I'd like to be able to sort and filter all corporation wallet journals and transactions, not just self only.

If I'm missing how to do that, I'm sorry, I just can't seem to find corp level wallet info and I'd really find that useful.

I love this tool!

However its not deleting all the files from the CachedMethodCalls folder for the market import.
I create about 60 files per min from 3 EVE clients.

I ran a test for about one minute.
57 file created. EVEMentat said "51 files imported", however all 57 files are still in CachedMethodCalls.

Delete old files on import is definitely checked.
(I am clicking the cache import button on the market browser page)
Default import source is EVE Cache

EDIT: Running as Admin, and using "Import ALL" doesn't del the files either.

Just have created detailed bug report to CCP after deep investigation of this issue.

Pretty much an amazing tool, thanks for all the great work! It's helped me a LOT in selling stuff I manufacture since I sell my wares across multiple regions and almost never have fewer than 150 orders at a time (what can I say, I like making all kinds of crap and seeing just how high I can push the price on it and still have people buy it up )

It would definitely be cool to have some kind of a functionality for (optionally) automatically setting the self cost, but I can see how that would be tricky because different people are very likely to disagree to some extent on what the cost of an item is. For me it's how much it costs to produce but this is all I do, buy materials and sell them back as stuff that goes on ships and gets blown up soon enough. Personally, even a file import functionality would be useful for me, where the input could be something like a tab-delimited list of item names and prices (since I can easily obtain those just by exporting from my spreadsheets).

As it stands, though, this tool is wonderful and I recommend it even though I understand it would make it easier for my market competition to compete with me, heh. Thart, I contracted you a token of my appreciation for the work you've done, considering that it makes my moneymaking faster and all Thanks!

3) Load market data from Eve Central with updates cache loading, I don't want to waste time browsing the market, exporting the data, and importing it into Mentat. It's a worse click fest than PI was.

Sell orders
- from what i can see the program only shows outbided orders from the same solar system (or station?). so if i was outbided with an order one jump away the program doesnt show red for that order since i was not outbided in the same solar system.
i know that i can check and use the market browser for that item, but if i have to check this for every item i would waste a lot of time, almost the same time that i used to take
why dont you allow users to choose if they want the program to take in consideration the orders for that item in the same solar system or in the hole region for example, so if i was outibid 1jump away the order can show red in the price?

buy orders
- i use a lot of regional buy orders for several items. so im having the same problem as above.
imagine this.. i place a buy order with the range of "regional" in a different solar system and with a price way bellow other orders with the range of "station". now i dont want to raise the value of the order, since im willing to go to any place in the same region to get the item. this order is green in the price because i was not outbided in the same solar system. but imagine that another guy places a regional order for the same item in another solar system? this way the order is still green, but i have been outbided for the regional order
the program could allow the user tho choose orders within the same "range" as a complement of what is shown now (this away the order could go red with another order higher than mine, within the same range and placed in a another solar system. or the program could at least display in "market orders" the orders with the same range and / or all the other orders for the same region (from what i can see now the program only shows orders in the same solar system)

i know that i could with the market browser identify that, but again, if i do this for every item in the buy orders i would "waste" a lot of time doing that

This has potential, but instead of writing new features you need to fix the problems with the current ones.

1) The UI is painfully slow, learn how to write threaded programs and put the slow tasks in worker threads. E.g. loading updates, when ever some task is selected it locks up for anything from 20 seconds to 2 minutes while it finishes the task. WTF does it take 2-3 minutes to swap characters, Jeveassets which carries much more of data swaps characters instantly and loads all nine API updates in half the the time it takes Eve Mentat to load one.

2) Make load all actual load all, rather work throught the painfully slow UI.

3) Load market data from Eve Central with updates cache loading, I don't want to waste time browsing the market, exporting the data, and importing it into Mentat. It's a worse click fest than PI was.

3) Load market data from Eve Central with updates cache loading, I don't want to waste time browsing the market, exporting the data, and importing it into Mentat. It's a worse click fest than PI was.

The eve patch today messed something up for me.


Running 2 clients, had the market caches working fine, now after patch it will only import 1 of the clients market cache.

Any solution?

Hello,

thanks for your great tool.

Is there a possibility to export the transaction and the journal data to excel? I would like to use the transactions for my own calculation but didn't find a possibility to get the transactions out of Eve :)

Thanks.

Hi, I got alot of buy orders that are region wide, is it posible to see your competitors thourgh out the whole region instead of only the station you are in?

Anyone have an issue with setting costs for multiple items? I'm able to after a clean install, but as soon as I import/update things, it reverts back to only being able to set costs for a single item.
Any help would be appreciated.
Cheers

any idea when you are gonna update the database to the latest patch?

Getting this problem, Character Orders and file import won't load.

2012-04-01 05:22:50,208 [7] WARN EVEMentat.Core - File 'My Orders-2012.04.01 0711.txt' wasn't loaded. Reason: Invalid file header
2012-04-01 05:22:50,208 [7] DEBUG OrderParser - Invalid file header
2012-04-01 05:22:50,208 [7] DEBUG OrderParser - Actual header: orderID,typeID,charID,charName,regionID,regionName,stationID,stationName,range,bid,price,volEntered,volRemaining,issueDate,orderState,minVolume,accountID,duration,isCorp,solarSystemID,solarSystemName,escrow,
2012-04-01 05:22:50,208 [7] DEBUG OrderParser - Expected header: price,volRemaining,typeID,range,orderID,volEntered,minVolume,bid,issueDate,duration,stationID,regionID,solarSystemID,jumps,
2012-04-01 05:22:50,208 [7] DEBUG MentatException - Creating exception: Invalid file header

Thanks for quick reply.
Since you couldn't reproduce I figure, mine files are corrupt.
1 st I reinstalled Mentat but it still gave same error.
Then I deleted all market logs *** It works now.

Now I wished that character orders were sorted by price each time I open the app instead of alphabetical.

Great app!!

Hey there,

Firstly, thanks for the great app! I'm just having a small difficulty. My character has access to a corporate wallet division and I was wondering if there was a way I could look at a transaction record for that wallet division only (isolated from my regular wallet). I can do this in game, by opening my wallet and clicking on the Corporation Wallet and then going to transactions, but I don't seem to be able to do that in this app. Is there a way?

It would help me immensely and coming up with profit totals and such.

Thanks in advance!

P.S. I should mention that I have added the corp api key and have access to the corp buy/sell orders and such.

Hey there,

Firstly, thanks for the great app! I'm just having a small difficulty. My character has access to a corporate wallet division and I was wondering if there was a way I could look at a transaction record for that wallet division only (isolated from my regular wallet). I can do this in game, by opening my wallet and clicking on the Corporation Wallet and then going to transactions, but I don't seem to be able to do that in this app. Is there a way?

It would help me immensely and coming up with profit totals and such.

Thanks in advance!

P.S. I should mention that I have added the corp api key and have access to the corp buy/sell orders and such.

Hi Thart and thanks for an awesome app that has increased my sales 3-fold in half the time spent in-game.

I run it no problem on my netbook, but would LOVE if I could also run it on my MAC at home.

Do you see any Mac OSX version in the near future?

Thanks and best wishes

Can the balance graph display the isk inside the corporation wallet?

- traded item comparison & profit
+ table with columns (item, sum_price_buy, buy_count, sum_price_sell, sell_count, profit)
+ list based on selected time period
+ it would be cool to see there columns (buy_tax, sell_tax, profit_deduct_taxes) - i know its hard, coz API journal doesn't have in taxes rows order id field, but this still could be rounded by taking tax size (skills + standing in station order is done) and counting it from sum amounts.

- trade per hour / day (own image to show you what i mean)
+ graph that shows average buy / sell / profit lines per day (mon-sun) or hour (1-24) based on selected time period

- summary (some of this data we can find already in some tabs in EveMentat so it isn't necessary)

would be nice if all this options will not take items that are selected as 'ignore transaction'.

One more thing: could be there option for autorefreash data (similar as it is done in EveMon)?

Hope someone from EveMentat will reply me ^^
Kisses :*

I love this tool. I would like to see the following features:

• Profit Summary (Daily / Weekly / Monthly / All Time) on the front page.
• Top 20 Selling Items ( By Profit / Volume )
• Orders to restock (Comparison between buy & sell orders)
• Stats on each item (How many sold, how many purchased, average buy price, average sell price, profit). I know you can get this from transactions, and filtering, but it would be nice to have it automated.

Thanks on the great tool

great programe, quick question, can you see profit after broker fee/taxes etc? thanks.

Maybe I missed the option, or it's not coded but is there a way to see if my buy order has been outbid by another order within range of the source station? I can set it to flag orders that outbid me X distance away, but cannot seperate those out from orders who's range includes my station. It seems either everything is flagged because the trade hub beats out my lower buy orders OR it misses buy orders that are not at the same station, but who's range includes my station.

Were that to be resolved, I could make some use of of this program, since checking bid competition is my big peeve wrt trading.

When I update my Character orders and/ or market it never seems to update them corretly or at all, Anyone have any idea whats wrong?

Hiya,

Eve Mentat is acting strange after this morning. It stopped updating a few sell orders and it's not showing that I have been outbidded. Looking in the Market browser tab, I can see that my Sell order isn't the cheapest anymore. In the Character orders tab however, it wont color red. The actual price does update in the Character orders tab, but it wont give me a signal I have been outbidded.

Perhaps I'm doing it wrong.

I'm importing data from the EVE Online client location. I also tried importing out of: C:\Users\Username\AppData\Local\CCP\EVE\d_games_eve_tranquility\cache No luck.

CCP Screegs considers this useful tool now as a bot by using locally stored cache files.

CCP Sreegs isn't CCP and until CCP releases an official statement on the matter, no actions will be taken from our side.

And for the record, scrapping the cache file doesn't violate the EULA as it doesn't change anything on the client. When/If CCP adds that to the EULA, we'll see to it that we get in line.

New to eve and to Mentat and love both. Having a problem with the market browser.

A couple days ago I was researching prices, and looked for Massive Scordite in several regions using the navigation on the left. But now whenever I go to search for that (and this is affecting other commodities too), the Region view is stuck on The Forge. The whole list disappears, and when I select All and import again all that come up is The Forge.

I'm sure I'm just not getting the import timing/selection correct, but I seem to have tried it every way it makes sense to me and it is still stuck on one region. Is there a good description/document of how to use the Navigator panel?

Thanks!

Hey,
I am having an issue with the cache import of market orders.

It works fine after I have deleted the MachoNet folder in the cache, but after a while (same session) it stops working again. Deleting MachoNet fixes it, but it gets tedious having to exit the client all the time.

I am using version 1.2.16.1161. There is no error message, the import pop-up box says x orders imported, y files deleted, same as when it works.

@Thart

Not sure if this is the right place to pose the question / suggestion, but is it possible to use the price difference as a parameter in the smart filter. I love the tool but when updating orders I'd like to only show orders with a price difference > "X". Is this possible or is there another tool that would achieve this?

Thanks for all the hard work!

Went through all the troubleshooting before posting :)

The weird thing is that it works for a few imports, then it stops. It reports no errors when I do the "cache import", the orders simply don't update.

The only thing I can think of that might be different from me and most other users is that I use this method to run multiple clients from the same installation.

I don't know how it would matter, as every client has its own cache (which is why I use this method), but it might be worth mentioning.

Edit: Made some extra installations to test, it still only imports once or twice then stops working.

The second issue is really making me lose my mind though. "Data too old" continues to appear even after I've freshly run the market scanner and hit "cache import" + "file import" after exporting from my current orders page in game. How can the data be too old?! Is that accurate? Am I doing something wrong? When I update a price on an item that has been "overrode" the system corrects for that, and the "price status" for some items (which I'm doing nothing with except with the marker scanner in the same stations) says "ok" for the price status -- but for other items it still says the data is too old. I don't know if that is accurate or if I'm doing something wrong, or what.

This one had me wondering too! The data doesn't update unless it has changed. If you know you have scanned that item and it still says "data too old" it quite simply means that the data hasn't changed.

Edit: For the filters, there are 2 settings. If you don't want to see fulfilled orders un-check fulfilled orders in the "Status Filter". It is the button between "file import" and "show only".

When I update the market details from cache Eve Mentat and I click the individual line item it will show me the price difference between what I am selling / buying at and the best competitor price.

What I was hoping was to show / limit the orders that I have only been overbid on by set amounts so I can quickly update those, does that make more sense?

Would it be possible to add in say the top 3 competitors prices if you aren't at the top of the queue, and to be able to select which price to beat. This could be used to update prices that have been beaten by someone with a stupidly low sell order that you don't want to beat, but want to be first to sell after he runs out.

Another idea I had would be to show your profit % on the update order price box with the new price.

Does anybody know how to receive e-mail notification when there are new posts in this thread for instance?

Just wondering I use an alt to buy stuff ship it to a region then sell it there on another toon, Is there a way to have the price of items set to the cost from my alt instead of having to set it manually

On your alt, go to transactions. Select "buy orders". Press CTRL-A to select everything, right click and select "set multiple cost".

Does anybody know how to receive e-mail notification when there are new posts in this thread for instance?

I'd like to give this program a try but every time I go to add a character I get:

Error 203: Authentication Error

All the API information is correct. I've checked the website for any possible solutions, besides make a new one. I've done that one already.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Can't seem to get the cache scrape to work since the update, deleting the cache doesn't work

Fuzzysteve GÇÅ@Fuzzysteve 2h
hmm. @erlendur? has someone changed the caching for market data without telling us? #devfleet

Erlendur GÇÅ@erlendur 2h
@Fuzzysteve Very possibly, we made a number of low-level changes in this release. Do you have a forum thread?

Anyone still getting stale data?

Yes. Everyone..

EVERYONE! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrTsuvykUZk

New to eve and to Mentat and love both. Having a problem with the market browser.

A couple days ago I was researching prices, and looked for Massive Scordite in several regions using the navigation on the left. But now whenever I go to search for that (and this is affecting other commodities too), the Region view is stuck on The Forge. The whole list disappears, and when I select All and import again all that come up is The Forge.

I'm sure I'm just not getting the import timing/selection correct, but I seem to have tried it every way it makes sense to me and it is still stuck on one region. Is there a good description/document of how to use the Navigator panel?

Thanks!

What would be a decent alternative to EVEMentat? The only reason I really used it was for the market order scanner. It's a pain in the ass managing close to 300 orders with out it. It appears there is no fix on the horizon so I guess I should move on to something that is working.

Cache import is fixed. Check this.