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Rells
Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2008.11.17 21:25:00 -
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Edited by: Rells on 17/11/2008 21:25:54
Announcement:
AGONY Empire is opening up a Darkfall Online clan for the revolutionary new game coming at the end of December. All current AGONY members, former AGONY members that left in good standing and anyone who has taken a class from us is welcome to sign up for the Darkfall clan. Why go at it alone? Join the clan and help us make history in yet another game.
Visit http://darkfall.agony-empire.com for more information.
-- Rells
Note: This will not affect our Eve Online operations. |
ouroboros trading
Gallente Medics On Fire
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Posted - 2008.11.17 21:29:00 -
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destroyer wolfpacks |
Tzar'rim
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Posted - 2008.11.18 01:19:00 -
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Did Darkfall actually rise above vapourware status?
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.11.18 01:35:00 -
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This actually sounds like an interesting MMORPG. Which is to say, it sounds like EVE in another setting. -
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Kravick Drasari
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Posted - 2008.11.18 01:39:00 -
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Didn't Darkfall get shut down? Last I heard they only had 10000 subscribers and they where still hemorrhaging players. |
Gneeznow
Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.11.18 01:51:00 -
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darkfall is the only other MMO I am considering trying, simply because I loved vampire: the masquerade and I am hoping this is gonna be something similar in an MMO format.
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Zyck
KDS Navy
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Posted - 2008.11.18 02:40:00 -
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Originally by: Kravick Drasari Didn't Darkfall get shut down? Last I heard they only had 10000 subscribers and they where still hemorrhaging players.
That's really weird because I heard (read: know) that darkfall isn't out yet. -Zyck |
Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.11.18 03:28:00 -
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I been reading and watching the gameplay video, and tbh if they deliver what they promise and they don't screw it up in implementation/balance/quality/other terms, I could see myself dropping EVE for this. |
Slade Trillgon
Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.11.18 03:37:00 -
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I was part of a group that was organized for beta entry but I failed to keep up with it and got booted from the forums. So Rells if you are willing to let someone that has no affiliation to Agony to join up I want to jump into this game bad if it actually comes out.
Slade
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Rells
Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2008.11.18 03:52:00 -
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Originally by: Slade Trillgon I was part of a group that was organized for beta entry but I failed to keep up with it and got booted from the forums. So Rells if you are willing to let someone that has no affiliation to Agony to join up I want to jump into this game bad if it actually comes out.
Slade
Come on over! The more the merrier.
Darkfall finally has a release date of Dec 31 and i think this one will hold.
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Kravick Drasari
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Posted - 2008.11.18 03:56:00 -
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Originally by: Zyck
Originally by: Kravick Drasari Didn't Darkfall get shut down? Last I heard they only had 10000 subscribers and they where still hemorrhaging players.
That's really weird because I heard (read: know) that darkfall isn't out yet.
Oh wait, you're right. I was thinking of ShadowBane. --- My cat Putter approves of this post. |
EnslaverOfMinmatar
Yarsk Hunters DeaDSpace Coalition
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Posted - 2008.11.18 04:02:00 -
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stuff ur has can i? uʍop ǝpısdn ǝɹnʇɐuƃıs ʎɯ ƃuıpɐǝɹ ǝɹɐ noʎ
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2008.11.18 05:10:00 -
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Edited by: MotherMoon on 18/11/2008 05:11:13
Originally by: Rells Edited by: Rells on 17/11/2008 21:25:54
Announcement:
AGONY Empire is opening up a Darkfall Online clan for the revolutionary new game coming at the end of December. All current AGONY members, former AGONY members that left in good standing and anyone who has taken a class from us is welcome to sign up for the Darkfall clan. Why go at it alone? Join the clan and help us make history in yet another game.
Visit http://darkfall.agony-empire.com for more information.
-- Rells
Note: This will not affect our Eve Online operations.
dude can I get in?
I need some PvP action on foot as well as in space! yarrr.
Originally by: Kravick Drasari
Originally by: Zyck
Originally by: Kravick Drasari Didn't Darkfall get shut down? Last I heard they only had 10000 subscribers and they where still hemorrhaging players.
That's really weird because I heard (read: know) that darkfall isn't out yet.
Oh wait, you're right. I was thinking of ShadowBane.
lol ooh ok that makes sense :P
Originally by: Tzar'rim Did Darkfall actually rise above vapourware status?
believe it or not!
honestly I don't believe it but I'm holding out hope! |
LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
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Posted - 2008.11.18 10:08:00 -
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I have been waiting for Darkfall ever since.. lets see.. 2004.
I'm tempted to hook up with you guys, seeing as I was in Agony for a while and know you are good guys |
Voltain
BEER Inc.
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Posted - 2008.11.18 14:38:00 -
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This game looks promising! So much so that I seem to have formed an impromptu Pirate clan with some friends and colleagues ....erm without any knowledge of game mechanics. Expect to see me failing on a server near you
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Tobias Sjodin
Ore Mongers Black Hand.
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Posted - 2008.11.18 15:07:00 -
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From an undisclosed forum:
Originally by: "fell" Beta was announced 6 years ago...
After 6 long years of waiting i finally got to test this game....
Its so rudimentary and dated that its neigh unplayable. Features half implemented or not at all.Combat a buggy unresponsive stutter fest. Interactive combat with parrying,blocking and dodging?! hahah wrong. Seemingly no coherent design strategy. A hodge podge of buggy crap.
Im guessing they are trying to stitch together a game that will fool 100k idiots to buy it and then melt away with the profit. There is no ****ing way they can rationally expect people to pay a monthly subscription for this pile of ****. A game of this quality wast acceptable 10 years ago let alone now.
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Rells
Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2008.11.18 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: Tobias Sjodin From an undisclosed forum:
Originally by: "fell" Beta was announced 6 years ago...
After 6 long years of waiting i finally got to test this game....
Its so rudimentary and dated that its neigh unplayable. Features half implemented or not at all.Combat a buggy unresponsive stutter fest. Interactive combat with parrying,blocking and dodging?! hahah wrong. Seemingly no coherent design strategy. A hodge podge of buggy crap.
Im guessing they are trying to stitch together a game that will fool 100k idiots to buy it and then melt away with the profit. There is no ****ing way they can rationally expect people to pay a monthly subscription for this pile of ****. A game of this quality wast acceptable 10 years ago let alone now.
"Undisclosed Sources" don't affect me in the slightest. Those that are willing to throw mud but not sign their name to the deed are nothing more than cowards. We neither know who this person is, nor know their motivations in making such a post. For all we know this could be a person who works with a competitor of Darkfall. It is even more possible that the person was a carebear who seriously dialed the wrong number with Darkfall. Since there is no way of assessing the credibility of the source, I will assume that the source has no credibility whatsoever.
Does that mean that Darkfall will "pwn" every game out there? No. Not at all. It simply means that we should judge the final game in it's entirety and judge it for ourselves until a credible source wants to go on the record with an assessment. Even if there is that credible source, they are only one voice in the crowd, not "THE" voice. As humans we have to resist the urge to be sheep and be lead by a few bleating lambs. Simply because they bleat the loudest does not necessarily grant them with omniscience.
In that light you might ask, "So Rells, if you grant that the game may not live up to expectations, what the heck are you up to?"
Well it's simple really. Any game of the nature that Darkfall has been advertised to be and, indeed, any game with a heavy and unrestricted PvP centric focus is going to be something of a dangerous mosh pit. Naturally this appeals to many of the PvPers in Eve. However, in any PvP centric game you stand a better chance to Excell and even survive if you are with a group of like-minded friends who will stand together. Agony has always been that kind of group and we have an ethos of PvP that we like to think of as a thinking man's pvp. We dont simply form a fleet of whatever the heaviest things we can find, instead we craft our tactics, groups, communications discipline and other aspects of PvP carefully. We analyze the effectiveness of tactics, devise new ways to fight and exhibit a ruthlessly efficient PvP aggressiveness.
So it's simple really. If you are going to give Darkfall a try, would you rather go at it alone or with another group of like minded, borderline crazy, PvP focused individuals? If you opt to go at it alone it will be hard indeed. Think UO at release to know how hard. But then if you go with us, think UO at release if you had a 40 person guild.
The choice, of course, is yours.
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Tzar'rim
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Posted - 2008.11.18 16:11:00 -
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Signed up for beta. |
Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.11.18 17:06:00 -
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What does this add to the discussion? Do you think we need your guidance?
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Great Artista
Caldari Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.11.18 17:41:00 -
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I'v been waiting for this game with moderate anticipation. How do I get on Beta? I'v never been in one. :O |
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Slade Trillgon
Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.11.18 19:23:00 -
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Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 18/11/2008 19:23:31
Originally by: Tzar'rim Signed up for beta.
The group I was in were stating that only corps/guilds with a certain amount of memebrs. Has this been changed to single entry open beta or are you part of a group?
Slade
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Feryal Sky
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Posted - 2008.11.18 20:04:00 -
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Sounds almost too good to be true. |
Gnomes Rock
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Posted - 2008.11.18 20:06:00 -
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After waiting for 2 and a half years, it decides to come out on the day i'm going off to Spain for 10 days.
Some gaming god must hate me or something. |
Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.11.18 20:16:00 -
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Originally by: Slade Trillgon
Originally by: Tzar'rim Signed up for beta.
The group I was in were stating that only corps/guilds with a certain amount of memebrs EDIT: (To complete the sentence) were allowed to enter into beta. Has this been changed to single entry open beta or are you part of a group?
Slade
Single sign up is still available (unless that has changed since yesterday), and they will take whoever they need. Chances of getting in may be higher atm if you are in a group. |
Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.18 20:58:00 -
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I never try a game at start up (let them at least try to get the lumps out first) but I'll look you guys up if I ever give it a go. I've been Patch86 in most of my online life, so expect me to be the same over there too. |
Rells
Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2008.11.19 02:04:00 -
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Originally by: Patch86 I never try a game at start up (let them at least try to get the lumps out first) but I'll look you guys up if I ever give it a go. I've been Patch86 in most of my online life, so expect me to be the same over there too.
If you are waiting for them to get the lumps out then when do you plan to start Eve? |
Rells
Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2008.11.19 03:19:00 -
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Originally by: EnslaverOfMinmatar stuff ur has can i?
Unlike you with your limited intellect, I am able to enjoy two games at the same time. When you grow up, perhaps you will be able to as well.
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Acrel
Amarr Atomic Reaction
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Posted - 2008.11.19 07:20:00 -
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Looks interesting.. Ive been waiting for a another true sandbox MMO other then EVE and might check this out and try and join you all(if thats ok :0) after its released..
Iam kind of hesitant to jump into a new MMO since AoC was a epic fail. Followed the release of that game for about 2 years only for them to go back on most of what they promised, Sieging became nothing more then a lag fest mini game, and balancing was horrid, combat system was alright for PvE but for PvP it was unresponsive and the delay on combos chains ruined the feel of it, decapitation moves where fun at 1st but then having to wait out the animation in PvP messed everything up, also for them to promote it was anti-grind pre release you pretty much where forced to grind 50% of your levels.
So yea as long as Darkfall doesn't follow down that path I will give it a shot.
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Sever Aldaria
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2008.11.19 07:27:00 -
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Btw, for those of you that remember geomerics "Enlighten" dynamic lighting technology at fanfest that CCP is planning on using for amulation, Darkfall is also using the same "Enlighten" ;)
Originally by: Tobias Sjodin From an undisclosed forum:
Originally by: "fell"
(rants about how he found bugs and partially implemented features early in the closed beta )
My turn for beta tester comments.
From the following disclosed forum: forums.darkfallonline.com Beta Report 1- Tester First Impressions (released yesterday)
A few snippets below (too many comments to post here):
Overall ôI've followed the game for a while, and I'm glad to say it was not in vain. It's not vaporware or anything like that. It really stands out as a quality game, and even after just a few hours, the addiction is already starting to get me.ö
ôBuild 50 is extremely stable. I haven't crashed once and I've been playing a lot of hours. I have found very few bugs.ö
World/Graphics ôOnly testing for a couple of hours now, but i just have to say, everything looks just so detailed... i am not really into gfx, but i am really amazed on all the things i've seen so far... very impressive...ö
ôHave u ever stop playing, sit back and admire the sunrise or the sunset in ANY other MMO? Darkfall was my first...
"The world is massive feeling and as I looked up at the sky I saw the sun moving. The shadows drew closer to me from a tower up on a hillside and I was looking at how the shadow changed as the sun moved. Then I got annihilated by a pack of goblins scouts because I was paying too much attention to the wrong parts of my surroundings."
AI ôôIntelligent AI? This is something I've not experienced until entering Df. It's as if fighting the mobs mirrored fighting other players. They actually work together attempting to kill you rather then serving as your training material.ö
PVP ôThe PvP actually takes skill! I stood toe to toe with another player with equal stats, equipment, and still got owned!ö
ôGroup PvP is going to be neat. It's already dangerous going 3v1 because the '3' side will constantly hit eachother in melee or with spells accidentally. A skilled solo player can definitely pull off some cool stuff there.ö
ôPvP combat in this game reminds me so much of watching a sword fight in a movie where the fighters almost dance around each other looking for a weakness to strike at. There is no break and there is no breathing space. Every moment of combat contains so much movement and requires constant brainpower. You won't have time to turn away from your screen or take a phone call, even while fighting mobs.ö
ôYesterday I had my friend lure somebody out of town, where the rest of us popped out of the shadows and took all his cool stuff. He couldn't see us because it was night out, and we had taken off our shiny armour.ö
ôI love the fact that you can hear someone fighting from quite far away. The other day myself and a couple of others ran from the alfar land to the human one, which took a while btw, and we eventually found someone killing goblins when we started hearing the sounds of fighting.
Final Thoughts "Of course, it helped cap off the night that the location we were traveling to was just itching to dish out wholesale slaughter on anyone curious enough to take a peek. I felt like I was being shelled by artillery after some of the mobs unloaded their repertoire of spells on us. Screen shaking, firebombs exploding all around you, your friends screaming obscenities and running away... the game definitely has a tendency to abruptly take your head out of the clouds and grind your face into the dirt with its heel on the back of your head with no warning at all. And this was just the PvE! PvE!"
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Sever Aldaria
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2008.11.19 07:39:00 -
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Originally by: Acrel Looks interesting.. Ive been waiting for a another true sandbox MMO other then EVE and might check this out and try and join you all(if thats ok :0) after its released..
Iam kind of hesitant to jump into a new MMO since AoC was a epic fail. Followed the release of that game for about 2 years only for them to go back on most of what they promised, Sieging became nothing more then a lag fest mini game, and balancing was horrid, combat system was alright for PvE but for PvP it was unresponsive and the delay on combos chains ruined the feel of it, decapitation moves where fun at 1st but then having to wait out the animation in PvP messed everything up, also for them to promote it was anti-grind pre release you pretty much where forced to grind 50% of your levels.
So yea as long as Darkfall doesn't follow down that path I will give it a shot.
I know not all MMOs do this but, like EVE, Darkfall will have trail accounts you'll definately get your shot.
The Darkfall devs really liked the feel of UO before it took a turn for the worse and they want to recreate a lot of what made the early UO great (such as full loot. You die, you lose everything like in EVE).
A list with links I compiled of Darkfall features and resources. Darkfall features and resources
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.11.19 10:58:00 -
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Originally by: Patch86 I never try a game at start up (let them at least try to get the lumps out first)
But that's all part of the experience. A MMOG being born, like a baby emerging into the world, covered in blood and wailing miserably.
And, in years to come, you can tell the noobs how you were there when dwarves could fit dual-MWDs... or something.
Originally by: Sever Aldaria
Numerous people (well, trolls) believe these to be fake. If not, they are certainly cherry picked, even the negative ones. -
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Sever Aldaria
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2008.11.19 15:08:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn
Originally by: Sever Aldaria
Numerous people (well, trolls) believe these to be fake. If not, they are certainly cherry picked, even the negative ones.
I'm not preaching to the trolls so to speak so I don't care what they believe.
Quote: In doing so we cooperated with the testers in order to get a good balance of the good and the bad. I posted this update in the beta forums last night, and asked for help in order to make it a fair assessment of the experience so far. Everyone had the opportunity to pitch in and they seem to agree that the resulting preview accurately represents the sentiment of the testers.
So while they couldn't include the entire first impressions thread, they at least picked comments that represented the same thing that most other testers said about that respective aspect. Clearly you can see that the most negative comments are with regards to a steep learning curve, UI, and a devision of gamers that want to play "easy mode" versus the majority that want to play against a challenging AI. Crafting is viewed not as outstanding but more average. On the flip side, the world, graphics, pvp, and overall impressions clearly have much praise and its hard to imagine other testers at this point in time having opposing comments with regards to those areas given how strong the comments praise are.
Anyway, looks like it may be very good.
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Faekurias
Black Legion Command Black Legion.
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Posted - 2008.11.19 15:36:00 -
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Originally by: Gneeznow darkfall is the only other MMO I am considering trying, simply because I loved vampire: the masquerade and I am hoping this is gonna be something similar in an MMO format.
This. |
Nuyan Zahedi
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2008.11.19 18:33:00 -
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It seems Adventurine is ending up as a 'second CCP', an unknown independent game-developer making a revolutionary MMO. I'm pretty psyched about this now. -- My blog
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ouroboros trading
Gallente Medics On Fire
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Posted - 2008.11.19 18:41:00 -
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Edited by: ouroboros trading on 19/11/2008 18:41:40
Originally by: Crumplecorn quotesaver
that's how it used to be, but now mmos are packed at the starts with nerd-raging men who all want to be a 'vet' or 'beta player', etc, frothing the with bitterness and memes they've hauled over from whatever the last mmo they failed at was.
it's unbearable.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.11.19 22:39:00 -
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Edited by: Crumplecorn on 19/11/2008 22:41:28
Originally by: Nuyan Zahedi It seems Adventurine is ending up as a 'second CCP', an unknown independent game-developer making a revolutionary MMO. I'm pretty psyched about this now.
This. Though I don't know about revolutionary, most of the significant aspects are also in EVE. It's amazing actually how many people on their forum have never heard of EVE, or at least know nothing about it, and are hailing this as the return of UO style MMOGs. As far as I can tell, it doesn't even have an equivalent of 0.0, just lots of lowsec. Ah well.
Originally by: ouroboros trading now mmos are packed at the starts with nerd-raging men who all want to be a 'vet' or 'beta player'
Oh, can't imagine that as a motivation. Nope. Not me. Never. Heh. Heh.
Having taken a closer look over the last ... however long it has been, and having posted in the forums a bit, I don't think this will match EVE overall, but may better it in some specific aspects. What interests me personally is the PvP. FPS style gameplay inside an EVE-style world... interesting. If it delivers what it promises, it will certainly be a viable second sandbox MMOG, which is nice.
Anyway, there has been some movement, the beta signup button has been made more prominent on the home page, prompting speculation that they are moving onto the next stage of beta testing. -
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Rells
Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2008.11.20 00:44:00 -
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Originally by: ouroboros trading Edited by: ouroboros trading on 19/11/2008 18:41:40
Originally by: Crumplecorn quotesaver
that's how it used to be, but now mmos are packed at the starts with nerd-raging men who all want to be a 'vet' or 'beta player', etc, frothing the with bitterness and memes they've hauled over from whatever the last mmo they failed at was.
it's unbearable.
You need some perspective friend. It's a game. That's all, a game. |
Tortun Nahme
Minmatar Umbra Synergy
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Posted - 2008.11.20 06:44:00 -
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is there any hope that it won't cross back this way?
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.20 15:57:00 -
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Originally by: Rells
Originally by: Patch86 I never try a game at start up (let them at least try to get the lumps out first) but I'll look you guys up if I ever give it a go. I've been Patch86 in most of my online life, so expect me to be the same over there too.
If you are waiting for them to get the lumps out then when do you plan to start Eve?
OK, OK, some of the lumps then |
Sever Aldaria
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2008.11.21 00:26:00 -
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Originally by: Great Artista I'v been waiting for this game with moderate anticipation. How do I get on Beta? I'v never been in one. :O
http://www.darkfallonline.com/beta/
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.11.21 01:56:00 -
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Possibly info tomorrow -
DesuSigs |
Rells
Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2008.11.21 03:38:00 -
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Originally by: Tortun Nahme is there any hope that it won't cross back this way?
Well, since you cant appear to be able to read ... *shrug* What part of "This will not affect our Eve Operations" is beyond your intellectual capabilities?
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2008.11.21 04:27:00 -
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If your going to let in other members I'll apply, but I won't waste your time if you aren't letting in non-allies. |
Haskear
Minmatar Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2008.11.21 11:24:00 -
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Thanks Rells! I'm looking for a new mmorpg and had missed Darkfall, looks interesting I'll definitely check it out. |
Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.11.21 12:48:00 -
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The NDA is being dropped for a day for two members of Italy's biggest MMORPG community. Movements towards a December release appear to be continuing, and we may see real info this evening or tomorrow.
Or, it could all be lies.
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Sever Aldaria
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2008.11.21 17:03:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn
Edit 2: The NDA isn't lifed, they get to post screenshots and write a review, that's all.
Translated page of the Review is here
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Sever Aldaria
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2008.11.22 02:50:00 -
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Originally by: Tortun Nahme is there any hope that it won't cross back this way?
Only some Agony members will be playing Darkfall. Most will keep focused on EVE. As for me, I'll be doing a bit of both.
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Mica Swanhaven
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Posted - 2008.11.23 04:15:00 -
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awww
why would you tell us about this if we can't play with you?
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Sever Aldaria
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2008.11.24 16:34:00 -
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Originally by: Mica Swanhaven awww
why would you tell us about this if we can't play with you?
I'm not sure why you couldn't.
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Alurexar
Celestial Ascension Tenth Legion
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Posted - 2008.11.24 19:18:00 -
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waiting for this game for like 2 something years. So where do we "outsiders" apply to Agony @ Darkfall? =) _______________________________________________________
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Rells
Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2008.11.25 01:55:00 -
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Originally by: Alurexar waiting for this game for like 2 something years. So where do we "outsiders" apply to Agony @ Darkfall? =)
Just visit darkfall.agony-empire.com and sign up.
Keep in mind that agony are NOT carebears by any stretch of the immagination and you might want to do some research into us before thinking of joining.
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Corstaad
Minmatar Vardr ok Lidskjalv
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Posted - 2008.11.25 04:30:00 -
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Rells I'll register tomorrow after work. Haven't been to a agony class for over a year but been to quite a few of them. You owe me a free cruiser class anyway :).
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.11.25 05:30:00 -
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I would be happy to join you guys.
I remember hearing of darkfall, just wasn't aware it was coming in like a month
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Reiisha
Splint Eye Probabilities Inc. Dawn of Transcendence
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Posted - 2008.11.25 06:34:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Kravick Drasari Didn't Darkfall get shut down? Last I heard they only had 10000 subscribers and they where still hemorrhaging players.
You were thinking of Dark and Light :)
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Mica Swanhaven
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Posted - 2008.11.25 07:11:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Sever Aldaria
Originally by: Mica Swanhaven awww
why would you tell us about this if we can't play with you?
I'm not sure why you couldn't.
But it says agony empire players only. which is too bad I wanted to give it a try, but if the beta wil only allow so many guild members I understand.
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Sever Aldaria
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2008.11.25 17:15:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Mica Swanhaven
Originally by: Sever Aldaria
Originally by: Mica Swanhaven awww
why would you tell us about this if we can't play with you?
I'm not sure why you couldn't.
But it says agony empire players only. which is too bad I wanted to give it a try, but if the beta wil only allow so many guild members I understand.
Bah, where does it say that? I need to fix that. We initially only allowed Agony members to sign up just for the purpose of reserving their names on the website, thats all. We're taking in non-Agony, ex-Agony, and even friends that play other MMOS. We hammered out a lot of goals and specific plans and directions for everyone to fulfill them starting from the very first minute you log into Darkfall. Its going to be exciting.
Initially, we'll be accepting almost anyone and if they turn out to be an ass then "off they go." Imagine if you had the chance to play EVE from the beginning with an organized group of people before there were major 0.0 players. You would have had the chance in shaping the rest of the community. Heres your chance.
If theres anything else that needs clarifying just ask here or on the website http://darkfall.agony-empire.com on the RECRUITMENT QUESTIONS thread. :)
-Sev
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Slade Trillgon
Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.11.25 18:29:00 -
[57]
I have signed up at the Agony Darkfall forums. I am now signing up for the Darkfall forums so as to be legit for beta entry. In the sign up there is a space to enter a reffering characters user name. Is there someone that we should put in there or should we ignore that?
Slade
Originally by: Crumplecorn NerfBat is now known as the WaveMachine.
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Sever Aldaria
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2008.11.25 19:02:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Slade Trillgon Is there someone that we should put in there or should we ignore that?
Slade
I'm not sure it will matter a great deal as far as chances on getting into the beta, but you can list rainfinale (my darkfall forum name) as the referrer. Also, they're going to have trial accounts for Darkfall (just like EVE) when it releases. :)
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Sever Aldaria
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2008.11.26 00:08:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Reiisha
Even if it doesn't become as succesful as hoped, you're looking at a minimum of 5 to 10 shards at launch, most probably making the entry into the game very bumpy as populations will have to balance each other out. This might mean that especially on underpopulated realms, certain groups of players might be able to completely dominate the landscape, turning a vast majority of new players and groups away from it and to the more populated servers. I think a situation might developed where the heavy servers become almost unplayable, and the light servers are simply no fun to play on for people who didn't start at the very beginning of the game.
At the very least, Darkfall will have a bumpy start...
Actually, I think overpopulation will be the bigger concern. I believe they'll probably only have 2-3 servers at the start and all of them based in Greece. They said that they won't release new servers until the current ones all fill up. I think that there will be too few servers at launch if anything but we'll see how quickly they can setup more. :)
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Pitt
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2008.11.26 00:43:00 -
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I'll be there when DFO goes live, know of a few other eve/ex-eve ppl that plan on hitting it up as well. Most of us have been in eve since launch so a few of us are taking a nice long break from eve and waiting for DFO to hit. Who know's, you might be seeing a few familiar faces there. How many must die in the name of God before the Devil is satisfied |
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Kazuma Saruwatari
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.11.26 02:19:00 -
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Sounds like too much hype to live up to, tbh.
Too many games fall into this trap and never get out of it and survive. I'll give it 50 paces worth of space and 6 months to mature before I take a step closer. -
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Alvar Ursidae
Zero People Skills Black Scope Project
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Posted - 2008.11.26 14:02:00 -
[62]
Is it a sandbox one server world like eve?
I get the impression it's multi server, and not a single cluster like eve, meaning there will be servers for areas, and someone in the us can't join in with Aussie players unless they like latency?
Is that right? Otherwise it's interesting. If it's like that, I might as well go play wow - because I want to have everyone together.
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Sever Aldaria
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2008.11.26 18:04:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Alvar Ursidae Is it a sandbox one server world like eve?
I get the impression it's multi server, and not a single cluster like eve, meaning there will be servers for areas, and someone in the us can't join in with Aussie players unless they like latency?
Is that right? Otherwise it's interesting. If it's like that, I might as well go play wow - because I want to have everyone together.
They don't have the resources to make one giant cluster like EVE (though the architecture is in place if they choose to do so). Instead, you have several servers (3 to 5 and setting up more as needed) supporting up to 10,000 players online at a single time.
However, they won't be forcing EU players to play on EU servers and Oceanic to play on Oceanic servers. This was a big concern of mine as well since other games have separated me (NA) from my EU and Aussie friends.
I've seen quotes from NA closed-beta testers saying that the latency isn't very noticeable or hindering and I believe that initially all the servers (probably 3-5) will be based in Greece which shouldn't be any different than you connecting to the EVE cluster in Iceland from Australia right? :)
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Mica Swanhaven
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Posted - 2008.11.27 02:46:00 -
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Originally by: Alvar Ursidae Is it a sandbox one server world like eve?
I get the impression it's multi server, and not a single cluster like eve, meaning there will be servers for areas, and someone in the us can't join in with Aussie players unless they like latency?
Is that right? Otherwise it's interesting. If it's like that, I might as well go play wow - because I want to have everyone together.
it's got double/triple the number of people on one server so I can deal.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.11.27 03:27:00 -
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Anyone concerned about Darkfall's ability to live up to the promises should look over the development history. In many ways they are reminiscent of CCP.
They have been working on this for a long time, and are being phenomenally secretive about it. They are dedicated to realising their vision, going so far as to promise to not give a launch date until they are absolutely certain they can make it, as the launch date is 'a guarantee, not a goal' or some such, and taking as long as they need up until that point.
Darkfall has been feature complete for over six months IIRC, they've just been testing it this whole time, to make sure that it is perfect upon release. Unlike the usual mishmash of missed deadlines, cut features, and horrendous bugs/balance that normally accompany MMOG launches, they are trying to get a complete and fully functional game out on day one, and have taken as much time as is necessary to achieve that. Even now they are maintaining incredibly tight NDAs so that the only features people can be sure about are the ones previously promised, and the ones they see on launch day - no false impressions, good or bad, being given by the beta.
There is massive debate over whether it will be out by the end of the year. They stated the release will be this year, and as I pointed out they have previously talked about how their launch date is not just a goal but a promise. Given their unusual approach I think it might become reality, whereas if it was a normal company with a normal development process, I wouldn't have given it a second look, given how quiet they have been.
I think one of two things will happen: Either they really can deliver everything they promised, and sometime before the end of the year we will have a game that could potentially come close to EVE (though certain points will stop it from completely matching EVE) in scope, ready to play practically perfectly on day one. Or, we will sail past the end of the year with no release, showing that all their talk about the launch date was just that - talk. In this case we can probably ignore all of their exceptional promises, which basically makes up the entirety of the game, and go about our lives as before until we hear about its unexceptional failure a few months later.
I do not think we will see a middling game appear from this - they have either pulled it off or they haven't, and we will know very soon.
As regards sharding, I normally wouldn't give an MMOG with sharding a second look, but in this case, the game is set up in a way which favours it somewhat. Unlike EVE's 0.0 structure, which was basically empty space that the players built up into empires, the capturable areas in Darkfall are a number of predefined cities - somewhat like a giant board game. While the players involved will differ, I think the physical world will be virtually homogenous across all the servers once all the cities are built up. Due to this, each server could physically only support a certain number of people in the game world before becoming overcrowded, unlike EVE, which is not only easily expanded, but also has less of a concept of overcrowding, since it is in space. So, consider it less like EVE's attempt to build a virtual world, and more like a giant board game with politics, with multiple games being played at once. -
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Alvar Ursidae
Zero People Skills Black Scope Project
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Posted - 2008.11.27 10:03:00 -
[66]
What would be cool, is if a continent was on a server, and to move across continents required moving to a different server set.
Thanks for the information guys.
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Bad Borris
Most Wanted INC G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.11.27 17:04:00 -
[67]
Im gonna hook up with u agony boys if u will take me nearer the release date as im definately gonna try this one.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2008.11.27 17:15:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 27/11/2008 17:28:27
This is definently a very interesting game. I hope you dont have to grind too much - I have a job...
Their solution to blobbing is interesting too:
- Friendly fire allows a small group of coordinated players to fight a larger group
- Using terrain and weather to your advantage
- Advancing in formations with your front line guarding with shields for those behind.
Eve could use this, along with line of sight and so on.
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Sever Aldaria
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2008.11.28 05:00:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Bad Borris Im gonna hook up with u agony boys if u will take me nearer the release date as im definately gonna try this one.
Sure, Borris. Sign up on http://darkfall.agony-empire.com and post on the recruitment questions thread on our forums.
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Sever Aldaria
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2008.11.28 17:43:00 -
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Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari Sounds like too much hype to live up to, tbh.
Too many games fall into this trap and never get out of it and survive. I'll give it 50 paces worth of space and 6 months to mature before I take a step closer.
Its possible. But then how rewarding and advantageous would it be to a group that started from the very beginning with the playing field level? Thats what I'd like to do.
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Sever Aldaria
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2008.11.29 16:50:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 27/11/2008 17:28:27
Their solution to blobbing is interesting too:
- Friendly fire allows a small group of coordinated players to fight a larger group
- Using terrain and weather to your advantage
- Advancing in formations with your front line guarding with shields for those behind.
Eve could use this, along with line of sight and so on.
It would definately make things more fun in EVE and not as much "more numbers doesn't hurt" but probably impossible to implement under EVEs current architecture and game mechanics.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2008.11.29 19:34:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Sever Aldaria
Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 27/11/2008 17:28:27
Their solution to blobbing is interesting too:
- Friendly fire allows a small group of coordinated players to fight a larger group
- Using terrain and weather to your advantage
- Advancing in formations with your front line guarding with shields for those behind.
Eve could use this, along with line of sight and so on.
It would definately make things more fun in EVE and not as much "more numbers doesn't hurt" but probably impossible to implement under EVEs current architecture and game mechanics.
I remember 3 years ago when I got my 1st thrasher. I read the disription and imagined ducking because a cyclone, letting it take the fire while I fend off tacklers trying to hold him down.
oh well :(
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Sever Aldaria
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2008.11.30 17:36:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Crumplecorn Anyone concerned about Darkfall's ability to live up to the promises should look over the development history. In many ways they are reminiscent of CCP.
They have been working on this for a long time, and are being phenomenally secretive about it. They are dedicated to realising their vision, going so far as to promise to not give a launch date until they are absolutely certain they can make it, as the launch date is 'a guarantee, not a goal' or some such, and taking as long as they need up until that point.
Darkfall has been feature complete for over six months IIRC, they've just been testing it this whole time, to make sure that it is perfect upon release. Unlike the usual mishmash of missed deadlines, cut features, and horrendous bugs/balance that normally accompany MMOG launches, they are trying to get a complete and fully functional game out on day one, and have taken as much time as is necessary to achieve that. Even now they are maintaining incredibly tight NDAs so that the only features people can be sure about are the ones previously promised, and the ones they see on launch day - no false impressions, good or bad, being given by the beta.
There is massive debate over whether it will be out by the end of the year. They stated the release will be this year, and as I pointed out they have previously talked about how their launch date is not just a goal but a promise. Given their unusual approach I think it might become reality, whereas if it was a normal company with a normal development process, I wouldn't have given it a second look, given how quiet they have been.
I think one of two things will happen: Either they really can deliver everything they promised, and sometime before the end of the year we will have a game that could potentially come close to EVE (though certain points will stop it from completely matching EVE) in scope, ready to play practically perfectly on day one. Or, we will sail past the end of the year with no release, showing that all their talk about the launch date was just that - talk. In this case we can probably ignore all of their exceptional promises, which basically makes up the entirety of the game, and go about our lives as before until we hear about its unexceptional failure a few months later.
I do not think we will see a middling game appear from this - they have either pulled it off or they haven't, and we will know very soon.
As regards sharding, I normally wouldn't give an MMOG with sharding a second look, but in this case, the game is set up in a way which favours it somewhat. Unlike EVE's 0.0 structure, which was basically empty space that the players built up into empires, the capturable areas in Darkfall are a number of predefined cities - somewhat like a giant board game. While the players involved will differ, I think the physical world will be virtually homogenous across all the servers once all the cities are built up. Due to this, each server could physically only support a certain number of people in the game world before becoming overcrowded, unlike EVE, which is not only easily expanded, but also has less of a concept of overcrowding, since it is in space. So, consider it less like EVE's attempt to build a virtual world, and more like a giant board game with politics, with multiple games being played at once.
Thats a pretty insightful take on it. Whats also interesting are the parallels and similarities that can be drawn between CCP/EVE and Adventurine/Darkfall
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Sever Aldaria
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2008.12.02 01:09:00 -
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Originally by: Pitt I'll be there when DFO goes live, know of a few other eve/ex-eve ppl that plan on hitting it up as well. Most of us have been in eve since launch so a few of us are taking a nice long break from eve and waiting for DFO to hit. Who know's, you might be seeing a few familiar faces there.
Could be. I know I've seen quite a few EVE players on the Darkfall forums or references to EVE Online in people's posts.
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Doug Dread
Minmatar Unscoped
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Posted - 2008.12.02 01:58:00 -
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All I know is I have been following Darkfall since 2002 and am VERY hopeful it comes out. If it becomes a reality I hope that all the promises are kept. If so then it will be 10x better than EVE for so many reasons.
1) No safe zones at all (no stations to sit in to gather intelligence from others while totally safe). Some towns will have defenses similar to sentry guns and faction police but there will be none of this gay concord pwn crap if a PK successfully sneaks through the defenses and kills a carebear.
2) Some actual variety in the environmental scenery - I like space games too but I can't stand how in eve it is always the same 3 skins for a star system and you don't even bother to enjoy the ship graphics of the opposing players since you need the HUD to track them.
3) Hopefully the developers of Darkfall will listen less to the whining of carebears to make things easier for them all the time - they got WoW and EVE (pretty much these days seeing as every patch is one new nerf for free pvp - not including that gay fleet warfare and 0.0 blob crap) and continually saturating games to cater to them may not help them in the long run. I know CCP was originally like this and caved over time and Darkfall devs could just as easily go down this road. However CCP is already toned down to carebear pressure - aventurine is still a virgin and can hopefully stay that way from carebears.
These are just some examples that come to mind.
Of course I am not really trying to crap on EVE in these comparisons - it should be expected that Darkfall will have advantages as it is a new game and EVE is almost a decade old. I am just so eager to try Darkfall and hope it will be my EVE replacement as I am getting more tired of the continuing carebearish patches that will drive pirates and evil from the game.
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Slade Trillgon
Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.12.02 17:58:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn Good well thought and common sense stuff.
Plus
So, consider it less like EVE's attempt to build a virtual world, and more like a giant board game with politics, with multiple games being played at once.
Lets just say that it does come out this year, that it lives up to all the hype. Would it not be crazy if Darkfall mechanics spurn the planetary concept for EVE
Slade
Originally by: Crumplecorn NerfBat is now known as the WaveMachine.
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Pitt
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2008.12.03 01:58:00 -
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Just out of curiosity, is agony going to be an arac group or are you aiming for one race... when you state on eve forums or yours which server you're playing, I'll join the same to join up with or fight aginst you... love eve ppl How many must die in the name of God before the Devil is satisfied |
Sever Aldaria
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2008.12.03 05:37:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Pitt Just out of curiosity, is agony going to be an arac group or are you aiming for one race... when you state on eve forums or yours which server you're playing, I'll join the same to join up with or fight aginst you... love eve ppl
Theres management issues and difficulties with doing an ARAC clan so we decided on a "Humans, Dwarves, Mirdian" alignment clan to give people the most options.
We'd love to have ya. Sign up on darkfall.agony-empire.com
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LaVista Vista
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Posted - 2008.12.03 06:38:00 -
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Are we there yet? . I mean, surely they can't be far off at this point? They promised Q4
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Sever Aldaria
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2008.12.04 03:50:00 -
[80]
Originally by: LaVista Vista Are we there yet? . I mean, surely they can't be far off at this point? They promised Q4
December 31 is their last projected release date
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Sever Aldaria
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2008.12.05 00:08:00 -
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Edited by: Sever Aldaria on 05/12/2008 00:09:05
Originally by: Sever Aldaria
Originally by: LaVista Vista Are we there yet? . I mean, surely they can't be far off at this point? They promised Q4
December 31 is their last projected release date
From the new Tasos (dev) interview with MMORPG.com Linkage
Quote: MMORPG.com: There is a great deal of confusion surrounding Darkfall's beta and release schedule. Could you clarify any of this for us?
Tasos Flambouras: We've been trying to get our partners up to speed and there will be an official statement in the next few days announcing a release date for the game. This should clear things up.
omg everyone, announcement is coming!
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.12.05 16:49:00 -
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Edited by: Crumplecorn on 05/12/2008 16:51:17 Athens, Greece û December 5th, 2008 - Audio Visual Enterprises SA and Aventurine SA in a joint statement today announced that their highly anticipated MMORPG title Darkfall Online will launch across Europe on January 22nd, 2009.
BTW, I mentioned above that hope should be abandoned if they don't make 2008 - that was predicated on nothing happening. As far as I'm concerned, going as far as announcing an official launch date, even a slightly delayed one, this far ahead of the supposed deadline (31st Dec) counts. -
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Posted - 2008.12.05 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn Edited by: Crumplecorn on 05/12/2008 16:51:17 Athens, Greece û December 5th, 2008 - Audio Visual Enterprises SA and Aventurine SA in a joint statement today announced that their highly anticipated MMORPG title Darkfall Online will launch across Europe on January 22nd, 2009.
BTW, I mentioned above that hope should be abandoned if they don't make 2008 - that was predicated on nothing happening. As far as I'm concerned, going as far as announcing an official launch date, even a slightly delayed one, this far ahead of the supposed deadline (31st Dec) counts.
January 22... hmm. I wish they would have released it on December 22 when I have 3 weeks off work. ---
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft
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Posted - 2008.12.05 18:10:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Crumplecorn Edited by: Crumplecorn on 05/12/2008 16:51:17 Athens, Greece û December 5th, 2008 - Audio Visual Enterprises SA and Aventurine SA in a joint statement today announced that their highly anticipated MMORPG title Darkfall Online will launch across Europe on January 22nd, 2009.
BTW, I mentioned above that hope should be abandoned if they don't make 2008 - that was predicated on nothing happening. As far as I'm concerned, going as far as announcing an official launch date, even a slightly delayed one, this far ahead of the supposed deadline (31st Dec) counts.
Jan 22nd? That's my birthday, it's a ****ing sign :D.
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Sever Aldaria
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2008.12.06 07:43:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Jim McGregor
January 22... hmm. I wish they would have released it on December 22 when I have 3 weeks off work.
Yeah, but they might start the open beta during your 3 weeks off work. Wouldn't that be nice also. :)
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LaVista Vista
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Posted - 2008.12.06 08:56:00 -
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Wow. How much fail is that?
The announce: "YEAH GUYS, WE WILL SHIP Q4, GET READY".
And here we are, now it won't for another while? Epic fail
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.12.06 14:42:00 -
[87]
Originally by: LaVista Vista Wow. How much fail is that?
The announce: "YEAH GUYS, WE WILL SHIP Q4, GET READY".
And here we are, now it won't for another while? Epic fail
Well at least they announced it early. It was around now people were expecting something would finally happen. And it did. They could have not bothered, or waited until the end of December. -
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Cierejai
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.12.06 16:05:00 -
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Edited by: Cierejai on 06/12/2008 16:06:31 Looks pretty over-hyped. As far as I can tell they are trying to capture a niche crowd, item drop on death is money repellent.
Oblivionesque leveling system. Economic restrictions on a class?
This right here.
Do I need to be a twitchy gamer to be good? Skill does come into play in combat, but so does intelligence, strategy, group tactics, preparation, equipment, conditions etc. There are many elements that will affect the outcome of a confrontation.
Short answer is yes.
BUT YOU CAN BE A WHEREWOLF OMG!
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.12.06 17:02:00 -
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Originally by: Cierejai Looks pretty over-hyped.
It's mostly unknown and up until recently seen purely as vapourware. -
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Alurexar
Celestial Ascension Tenth Legion
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Posted - 2008.12.06 17:07:00 -
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Edited by: Alurexar on 06/12/2008 17:07:53 over hyped maybe because the game dares to do things other games avoid. Just like EvE. It will be a small niche game not game for everyone. Again just like EvE and yes it is a sandbox game just like.. _______________________________________________________
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft
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Posted - 2008.12.06 17:18:00 -
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Edited by: Nyphur on 06/12/2008 17:19:03
Originally by: LaVista Vista Wow. How much fail is that?
The announce: "YEAH GUYS, WE WILL SHIP Q4, GET READY".
And here we are, now it won't for another while? Epic fail
You know what's even more "Epic fail"? Pushing a game out the door that isn't anywhere close to ready. The reality is that barely any MMOs launch in a state the developers would call "finished". Most companies are forced to launch after they run out of money and have a launch-time development frenzy after sales start to come in. Funcom officially declared Age of Conan's release date to be August 2008 (albiet, after already massive delays) and were working toward that date when they were forced to launch early in May. Whether they were forced by investors or a lack of funds to continue development, I don't know. All I know is that an early launch killed that game. The first area of the game had been polished, with all of the content and vocals expected. Pretty much everyone that I've spoken to said that Tortage (the first area) was amazing and fun. It gave a false sense of quality that the rest of the game failed to live up to and that was a major contributor to the game failing horribly about a month after launch.
Darkfall may have been a long time coming and it has been delayed over and over again but honestly I don't think anyone cares when it comes out any more. I don't think many people actually expect it to be released on schedule (though it'd be cool because Jan 22nd is my birthday :D) but I DO expect it to be released in a playable condition and that's the absolute most important factor. I'd go as far as to say nothing else matters in the slighest. For a comparison, take a look at Team Fortress 2. It was considered vaporware for a long time and the game was actually developed to a prototype state and scrapped several times before they were satisfied they'd done it right. You can release a game late and succeed but if you release it ****, it's dead no matter when it comes out.
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Posted - 2008.12.06 17:24:00 -
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I agree with the Nymph above. Let the game be released in 2010 for all I care, as long as its really good. Its suicide to release a game before its ready.
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Neth'Rae
Gallente Decorum Inc Tygris Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.07 02:52:00 -
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Ohh, I'd be very interested in joining a previous EVE corp even though I'm not in Agony.. As EVE players we have quite a big advantage compared to someone coming from WoW, with all the coldness and harshness of space in EVE ofc :D
And it's easy to draw parallels to Darkfall from EVE :P
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft
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Posted - 2008.12.07 12:38:00 -
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Edited by: Nyphur on 07/12/2008 12:41:10
Originally by: Sever Aldaria Btw, for those of you that remember geomerics "Enlighten" dynamic lighting technology at fanfest that CCP is planning on using for amulation, Darkfall is also using the same "Enlighten" ;)
This reminds me vaguely of the spherical harmonic lighting using photon maps that was presented at Siggraph 2005 (read a bit about it while reading up on billboarding in forest scenes). Though after doing some reading it appears they may have attended Siggraph 2005 and then started working on this as a replacement for that technology. Either way it looks awesome.
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Arianhod
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Posted - 2008.12.07 13:10:00 -
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I have read this post and the other threads on the front page.... I'm in.
One query, I got the impression from the video on the AE site that it is Pirate or a Kingdom.... I assume we are going for the latter but I just want that cleared up
Also names... I fell this is going to be bigger than just Agony and (although it was just a web browser game) we had an Eve alliance we all banded into, any comment on that?
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Captain Falcord
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2008.12.07 13:35:00 -
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I'm in.
For the trial, at least.
I seriously hope, I mean, I hope this game has firearms. I've always wanted to have a pirate with a boomstick in every fantasy game, but I hate taming, so that's why I didn't pick Hunter in WoW. Now there's no taming in darkfall, I want my gun! ---<---@ JackFalcord |
xHazzarDx
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Posted - 2008.12.07 14:00:00 -
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Havnt really looked into it, except the info in this thread. and i must say, it seems very promising. I have been looking for an alternative for a while now. nothing really caught my interest though, but darkfall seems it might do the trick..
item drop on death? yes, yes YES, something with consequences That's what makes me draw myself into things, as it matters more what you do, rather than not really caring about it.. and theres some very interesting aspects of combat. using a front tanker with shield while hiding behind in formation, freindly fire? indeed very promising.
i surely hope the gfx will be satisfying, as thats abit important to me aswell..
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Neth'Rae
Gallente Decorum Inc Tygris Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.07 15:26:00 -
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Edited by: Neth''Rae on 07/12/2008 15:27:35 I read that you strive to have players from all timezones, but won't the game be out in EU aswell as NA? Which servers will Agony play on?
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Arianhod
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Posted - 2008.12.07 15:53:00 -
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Originally by: Neth'Rae Edited by: Neth''Rae on 07/12/2008 15:27:35 I read that you strive to have players from all timezones, but won't the game be out in EU aswell as NA? Which servers will Agony play on?
EU of course. It comes out a few months ahead and you can connect from anywhere in the world. NA servers are methinks purely for advertising. Tranquility is in London and a fair few NA peeps seem to play Eve Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007. Haruhiists - Supporting Linkification since 2008
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2008.12.07 20:42:00 -
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I watched the new 17 minute long trailer and while it doesnt look that stunning, I think it will be fun to play anyway. Once you are part of one of those groups, hacking and slashing away, I think the graphics will be the last thing on your mind.
I will probably give this game a go, specially if they have open beta I can sneak in on...
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Sever Aldaria
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2008.12.08 16:15:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
I watched the new 17 minute long trailer and while it doesnt look that stunning, I think it will be fun to play anyway. Once you are part of one of those groups, hacking and slashing away, I think the graphics will be the last thing on your mind.
I will probably give this game a go, specially if they have open beta I can sneak in on...
You may find it a relief to know that that is an old video made during alpha / hardware testing phase of beta so yes the graphics were terrible because many features were disabled.
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Sever Aldaria
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2008.12.09 01:57:00 -
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Originally by: Arianhod
Originally by: Neth'Rae Edited by: Neth''Rae on 07/12/2008 15:27:35 I read that you strive to have players from all timezones, but won't the game be out in EU aswell as NA? Which servers will Agony play on?
EU of course. It comes out a few months ahead and you can connect from anywhere in the world. NA servers are methinks purely for advertising. Tranquility is in London and a fair few NA peeps seem to play Eve
True, although Darkfall will be slightly more switch action than point&click EVE. We'll see how latency plays into it and play it by ear. We have both US, Euro, and a few aussies on board and we might move over to a NA server if only to use the initial launch period for learning as much as possible and then start on a newly released server knowing where to go, how things work, and what to do to accomplish our goals.
But we'll play it by ear.
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Pitt
Gallente Invicta.
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Posted - 2008.12.09 06:48:00 -
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Would rather hear that agony went with alfar, was really hoping an eve crew would go all out and dec war on everyone in dfo. I understand the desire to accomidate as many ppl as possable though. Hope to see and fight with/aginst agony in the near future tho.
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Sever Aldaria
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2008.12.09 09:15:00 -
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Originally by: Pitt Would rather hear that agony went with alfar, was really hoping an eve crew would go all out and dec war on everyone in dfo. I understand the desire to accomidate as many ppl as possable though. Hope to see and fight with/aginst agony in the near future tho.
Theres nothing that prevents us from doing that. Just like in EVE, you can wardec any clan of any race/alignment.
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Neth'Rae
Gallente Decorum Inc Tygris Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.09 10:06:00 -
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Originally by: Sever Aldaria
Originally by: Pitt Would rather hear that agony went with alfar, was really hoping an eve crew would go all out and dec war on everyone in dfo. I understand the desire to accomidate as many ppl as possable though. Hope to see and fight with/aginst agony in the near future tho.
Theres nothing that prevents us from doing that. Just like in EVE, you can wardec any clan of any race/alignment.
Humans and Mirdain also look best tbh :) Mahirim look pretty cool, but I'm not a big Furryfan..
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Captain Falcord
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2008.12.09 11:50:00 -
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Some friends and I are planning to lead a human mercenary clan in the european server.
Probably it will be very limited, only a handful of good friends, so don't worry, no competence ;).
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Sever Aldaria
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2008.12.09 16:30:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Falcord Some friends and I are planning to lead a human mercenary clan in the european server.
Probably it will be very limited, only a handful of good friends, so don't worry, no competence ;).
Looking forward to find a common goal ingame for us all to work together.
Don't you mean "no competition"?
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Neth'Rae
Gallente Decorum Inc Tygris Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.09 17:00:00 -
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Originally by: Sever Aldaria
Originally by: Captain Falcord Some friends and I are planning to lead a human mercenary clan in the european server.
Probably it will be very limited, only a handful of good friends, so don't worry, no competence ;).
Looking forward to find a common goal ingame for us all to work together.
Don't you mean "no competition"?
Most hilarious miss-spelling I've read considering the context..
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.12.09 17:52:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Captain Falcord Some friends and I are planning to lead a human mercenary clan in the european server.
Probably it will be very limited, only a handful of good friends, so don't worry, no competence ;).
Looking forward to find a common goal ingame for us all to work together.
Quote for Epic -
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Captain Falcord
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2008.12.09 20:21:00 -
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Hahaha.
Sorry, yes, I mean competition, my bad, it was a horribly unfortunate translation from spanish ^^. ---<---@ JackFalcord |
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2008.12.10 00:02:00 -
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Originally by: Nyphur Edited by: Nyphur on 07/12/2008 12:41:10
Originally by: Sever Aldaria Btw, for those of you that remember geomerics "Enlighten" dynamic lighting technology at fanfest that CCP is planning on using for amulation, Darkfall is also using the same "Enlighten" ;)
This reminds me vaguely of the spherical harmonic lighting using photon maps that was presented at Siggraph 2005 (read a bit about it while reading up on billboarding in forest scenes). Though after doing some reading it appears they may have attended Siggraph 2005 and then started working on this as a replacement for that technology. Either way it looks awesome.
yeah, it's not using that. In fact it's not usiong much of any lighting engine. It's about the gameplay :P
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. The Firm.
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Posted - 2008.12.10 18:12:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: Nyphur Edited by: Nyphur on 07/12/2008 12:41:10
Originally by: Sever Aldaria Btw, for those of you that remember geomerics "Enlighten" dynamic lighting technology at fanfest that CCP is planning on using for amulation, Darkfall is also using the same "Enlighten" ;)
This reminds me vaguely of the spherical harmonic lighting using photon maps that was presented at Siggraph 2005 (read a bit about it while reading up on billboarding in forest scenes). Though after doing some reading it appears they may have attended Siggraph 2005 and then started working on this as a replacement for that technology. Either way it looks awesome.
yeah, it's not using that. In fact it's not usiong much of any lighting engine. It's about the gameplay :P
Most PvPers in EvE turn effects off...
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Sever Aldaria
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2008.12.11 03:41:00 -
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Lets hope that Aventurine doesn't let certain resource generation exploits go ignored in Darkfall for 4 years.
Sorry, had to say it.
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. The Firm.
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Posted - 2008.12.11 10:44:00 -
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Originally by: Sever Aldaria Lets hope that Aventurine doesn't let certain resource generation exploits go ignored in Darkfall for 4 years.
Sorry, had to say it.
And if they do, could they NOT let it happen on the god damb day I finish HAC V
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Sever Aldaria
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2008.12.11 23:13:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Sever Aldaria Lets hope that Aventurine doesn't let certain resource generation exploits go ignored in Darkfall for 4 years.
Sorry, had to say it.
And if they do, could they NOT let it happen on the god damb day I finish HAC V
Or Fireball level 100 which requires said exploited resources or... yeah.
Ouch, bummer.
Hey, better on the day when you have a chance to buy that last HAC cheap than 7 days before you finish Logistics V, Large Energy Turret V, and Large Hybrid Turret V on your characters
I guess you got hit with the let-down factor by being excited about it finishing only to then be hit with the bad news.
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Gallente Brutal Deliverance OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.12 00:57:00 -
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If that game has day/night cycles relative to our own (and so variety of timezoned servers), then I would ****ing join because I have dream about a game like this for years. Would love to see a game where people logged in during their sleep time to sneak attack, and night had for example more npc's to hurt you and no npc services. Night dominated by robbers, vampires and people trying to make some money while most players were sleeping.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.12.12 01:43:00 -
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It has day/night but it is accelerated compared to RL. -
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Sever Aldaria
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2008.12.12 18:17:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn It has day/night but it is accelerated compared to RL.
I think I read somewhere that the day/night cycle is 4 hours.
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Captain Falcord
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2008.12.13 00:20:00 -
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Originally by: TimMc If that game has day/night cycles relative to our own (and so variety of timezoned servers), then I would ****ing join because I have dream about a game like this for years. Would love to see a game where people logged in during their sleep time to sneak attack, and night had for example more npc's to hurt you and no npc services. Night dominated by robbers, vampires and people trying to make some money while most players were sleeping.
I've been told Mortal Online does have that system, check it out. ---<---@ JackFalcord |
Neth'Rae
Gallente Decorum Inc HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2008.12.13 03:08:00 -
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Originally by: Sever Aldaria
Originally by: Crumplecorn It has day/night but it is accelerated compared to RL.
I think I read somewhere that the day/night cycle is 4 hours.
Sounds a bit too short.. should be an odd number like 7 or 9, so it changes each day..
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Sever Aldaria
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2008.12.13 07:58:00 -
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Originally by: Neth'Rae
Originally by: Sever Aldaria
Originally by: Crumplecorn It has day/night but it is accelerated compared to RL.
I think I read somewhere that the day/night cycle is 4 hours.
Sounds a bit too short.. should be an odd number like 7 or 9, so it changes each day..
Well, its subject to change but: http://www.darkfallonline.com/faq/world.html
Quote: What about weather effects and day/night cycles?
Agon will be a very atmospheric and beautiful world complete with world physics that will surprise you. The weather effects will often be dramatic, and the day/night cycles will sometimes be accompanied with spectacular dawns and sunsets.
The exact time cycle is not set yet, but the current total night/day cycle is about four hours long. Expect realistic weather effects, such as rain, snow, wind blowing in the trees, wind blowing in the grass on the ground, thunder and lightning.
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TimMc
Gallente Brutal Deliverance OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.13 11:15:00 -
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Originally by: Sever Aldaria
Originally by: Crumplecorn It has day/night but it is accelerated compared to RL.
I think I read somewhere that the day/night cycle is 4 hours.
hm that sounds ok, as you could probably get to see a whole day cycle in a sitting of the game. Would prefer it to be the same as RL though.
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Captain Falcord
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2008.12.13 11:39:00 -
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Edited by: Captain Falcord on 13/12/2008 11:38:57
Originally by: TimMc
Originally by: Sever Aldaria
Originally by: Crumplecorn It has day/night but it is accelerated compared to RL.
I think I read somewhere that the day/night cycle is 4 hours.
hm that sounds ok, as you could probably get to see a whole day cycle in a sitting of the game. Would prefer it to be the same as RL though.
That'd be cool, but honestly, not an intelligent idea.
People with restricted play times (like myself, I can only play like 2 hours around 23:00) would have to spend their entire game experience in the same moment of the day, and that gets tiring after a while. ---<---@ JackFalcord |
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Posted - 2008.12.14 12:37:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 14/12/2008 12:38:26
Originally by: Captain Falcord
People with restricted play times (like myself, I can only play like 2 hours around 23:00) would have to spend their entire game experience in the same moment of the day, and that gets tiring after a while.
Yes, this is probably why they picked 4 hours. Its short enough for everybody to be able to experience both night and day in the game.
I watched the trailer for the game and it looks like massive ganking and no tactics, but I will try the game if it has a open beta during x-mas and beginning of January. ---
Originally by: Roguehalo Can you nano Titans?
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TEK9
Caldari Captain Morgan Society Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.14 13:38:00 -
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Originally by: Doug Dread Hopefully the developers of Darkfall will listen less to the whining of carebears to make things easier for them all the time - they got WoW and EVE (pretty much these days seeing as every patch is one new nerf for free pvp - not including that gay fleet warfare and 0.0 blob crap) and continually saturating games to cater to them may not help them in the long run. I know CCP was originally like this and caved over time and Darkfall devs could just as easily go down this road. However CCP is already toned down to carebear pressure - aventurine is still a virgin and can hopefully stay that way from carebears.
These are just some examples that come to mind.
Of course I am not really trying to crap on EVE in these comparisons - it should be expected that Darkfall will have advantages as it is a new game and EVE is almost a decade old. I am just so eager to try Darkfall and hope it will be my EVE replacement as I am getting more tired of the continuing carebearish patches that will drive pirates and evil from the game.
/signed
Non-consensual PvP in Eve can now only be found in 0.0 and sitting outside Jita 4-4 killing those war targets unlucky enough to undock with a blackscreen. See http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=928550 for further details.
Darkfall looks like it may be the game that Eve used to be, a harsh world where nowhere and no one is completely safe.
I would just plead with the carebears who have managed to ruin Eve to stay here and leave Darkfall to the rest of us. It would be a bit like Vegetarians going to a Steak restaurant and then complaining about them serving meat.
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Captain Falcord
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2008.12.14 15:01:00 -
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Originally by: TEK9
Originally by: Doug Dread Hopefully the developers of Darkfall will listen less to the whining of carebears to make things easier for them all the time - they got WoW and EVE (pretty much these days seeing as every patch is one new nerf for free pvp - not including that gay fleet warfare and 0.0 blob crap) and continually saturating games to cater to them may not help them in the long run. I know CCP was originally like this and caved over time and Darkfall devs could just as easily go down this road. However CCP is already toned down to carebear pressure - aventurine is still a virgin and can hopefully stay that way from carebears.
These are just some examples that come to mind.
Of course I am not really trying to crap on EVE in these comparisons - it should be expected that Darkfall will have advantages as it is a new game and EVE is almost a decade old. I am just so eager to try Darkfall and hope it will be my EVE replacement as I am getting more tired of the continuing carebearish patches that will drive pirates and evil from the game.
/signed
Non-consensual PvP in Eve can now only be found in 0.0 and sitting outside Jita 4-4 killing those war targets unlucky enough to undock with a blackscreen. See http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=928550 for further details.
Darkfall looks like it may be the game that Eve used to be, a harsh world where nowhere and no one is completely safe.
I would just plead with the carebears who have managed to ruin Eve to stay here and leave Darkfall to the rest of us. It would be a bit like Vegetarians going to a Steak restaurant and then complaining about them serving meat.
I have faith in darkfall for one reason.
What will keep it from being a gankfest is the fact that you can only have one character per account.
Games become a gankfest because the people who commit those crimes know they can be the bad guys for 20 minutes and when they're bored, they just pick their alts, farm stuff for their evil mains or just play the game in another fashion.
Darkfall will not allow this. If you're bad, you're bad. The only way to play an eternal gankfest is choosing alfar, which will anyway become a reverse-gankfest soon because they're KOS to the rest of the races (lol, it's gotta be harsh for those guys).
Soo, probably we will see all the immature gankers pick alfar and enjoy their portion of the game, while humans, dwarves, and elves, then orcs and furries to a lesser extent will probably team up and defend each other, leaving the occasional ganky clan/group apart, which will soon belong to the KOS list for everyone. Soon, they would realize they'd be better off playing alfar for that, and reroll. Back to starting point. ---<---@ JackFalcord |
Neth'Rae
Gallente Decorum Inc HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2008.12.14 15:10:00 -
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Edited by: Neth''Rae on 14/12/2008 15:11:33
Originally by: Jim McGregor I watched the trailer for the game and it looks like massive ganking and no tactics, but I will try the game if it has a open beta during x-mas and beginning of January.
Well, considering the vast different possibilities of character customization, friendly fire, manual aim/block, being able to physically block or tackle people due to collision detection, fighting ontop of mounts, ambushes, realistic archery etc.. I wouldn't be suprised if it was more tactical than EVE..
What I don't like with EVE atm is that people run/hide/avoid pvp too easily or the blob and you'll have to run/hide.. You can't warp out or cloak in Darkfall at least, and you'll be able to spot and avoid huge armies if you see them from far away..
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Posted - 2008.12.14 15:25:00 -
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I have some question Agony alliance in EVE is friendly with which powerblock ? (Goon, BoB, NC...) In which server u will go, English i bet ? Could I eventually join even if u dont Know me ingame ? Do you potentially accept French people ? ^^ I ask coz seems Darkfall really seems to be a "stay grouped or die" game and you seems to be the only entity from eve which will go in the game 'en masse'
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Slade Trillgon
Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.12.14 15:33:00 -
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Originally by: mini moon I have some question Agony alliance in EVE is friendly with which powerblock ? (Goon, BoB, NC...) In which server u will go, English i bet ? Could I eventually join even if u dont Know me ingame ? Do you potentially accept French people ? ^^ I ask coz seems Darkfall really seems to be a "stay grouped or die" game and you seems to be the only entity from eve which will go in the game 'en masse'
This should answer most if not all of your questions about Agony Empire in EVE.
Slade
Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
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Sever Aldaria
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Originally by: Slade Trillgon
Originally by: mini moon I have some question Agony alliance in EVE is friendly with which powerblock ? (Goon, BoB, NC...) In which server u will go, English i bet ? Could I eventually join even if u dont Know me ingame ? Do you potentially accept French people ? ^^ I ask coz seems Darkfall really seems to be a "stay grouped or die" game and you seems to be the only entity from eve which will go in the game 'en masse'
This should answer most if not all of your questions about Agony Empire in EVE.
Slade
Thanks Slade. And, mini moon, if you couldn't answer your question after reading that, we aren't aligned with any EVE power blocs. We've fought goons, NC, and bob. We're an equal killing opportunity group.
That aside, we're not going to be bring anything from EVE into Darkfall aside from the name/logo, and some of the EVE members. I can tell you right now that there will be people in our Darkfall clan who are in alliances we are currently fighting in EVE. We're just going to keep EVE talk completely separate from our Darkfall group and you're welcome to sign up and join us at http://darkfall.agony-empire.com
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Sever Aldaria
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2008.12.15 04:19:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Falcord
What will keep it from being a gankfest is the fact that you can only have one character per account.
So this would be your thread then eh? http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=90760
Originally by: Captain Falcord
Soo, probably we will see all the immature gankers pick alfar and enjoy their portion of the game, while humans, dwarves, and elves, then orcs and furries to a lesser extent will probably team up and defend each other, leaving the occasional ganky clan/group apart, which will soon belong to the KOS list for everyone. Soon, they would realize they'd be better off playing alfar for that, and reroll. Back to starting point.
I'm not so sure... The race poll shows all 3 alignments to be close-ish: http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=9266
First pick is Humans, 2nd is Mahirim, 3rd is Alfar. I'd pick Alfar except Alfar look horrible to me. Just creepy or... idk. I wouldn't play one because I don't like how they look.
Anyway, don't forget that you can attack anyone and play the "pirate" regardless of your race.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.12.15 09:35:00 -
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I was thinking alfar due to being able to kill more people freely that way, but if I go with the mirdain I'll be able to play the same race in Darkfall and EVE.
All this '3 friendly races' crap sounds like it is for the carebears though. -
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Sever Aldaria
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2008.12.15 16:55:00 -
[133]
Originally by: Crumplecorn I was thinking alfar due to being able to kill more people freely that way, but if I go with the mirdain I'll be able to play the same race in Darkfall and EVE.
All this '3 friendly races' crap sounds like it is for the carebears though.
I don't think it will be noticeable that Humans/Mirdain/Dwarves are the carebear alignment. Remember that the population will not split 16.6% each race http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=9266 so Humans/Mirdain/Dwarves will probably have the most people, but...
(While they aren't truely indicative of how things will go, I'm going to reference polls from the darkfall forums to give you an idea of what the other forumfall posters think)
- as a Mirdain, my clan can wardec any other Humans/Dwarves/Mirdain clan.
- as a Mirdain, my clan can go outlaw and kill anyone and use Silvertown (the outlaw city) as our wretched hive of s****and villany. Quite a large percentage seem to be wanting to do this: http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=90920
http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=89698
- as a Mirdain, if I see another Human/Dwarf/Mirdain out in the world and not be worried about him, I may quickly find myself attacked, dead, and looted because I assumed he wouldn't attack me since he's of the same alignment.
- according to this map: http://www.bkbhq.com/index.php?pageid=dfmap each race is separated from other races it is aligned with such that you are surrounded by alignment enemies. In order for Dwarves to get to the Humans territory, they'd have to run through Ork territory, or through the center of Agon. In other words, Humans, Dwarves, and Mirdain will all be seperated from each other as will Orks and Mahirim.
- in EVE, people can stay in high sec and carebear to their heart's content in relative safety. In Darkfall, there is no high sec. Everywhere is low sec with less sentry guns and the only relative safe places are in cities but a carebear couldn't do much in Darkfall I think w/out going outside a city. My point here is that Darkfall will not last long for the many carebears and I believe Darkfall will certainly have less hardcore carebears than EVE does.
- Most Darkfall clans will probably be pvp oriented http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=67420
Once again, I recognize that polls only indicate the feelings of the forum fans and then only the ones that look at those polls. Still, at this time I don't think we'll associate any one alignment with say Caldari = carebears.
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Sever Aldaria
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2008.12.16 16:03:00 -
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Originally by: mini moon I have some question Could I eventually join even if u dont Know me ingame ? Do you potentially accept French people ? ^^ I ask coz seems Darkfall really seems to be a "stay grouped or die" game and you seems to be the only entity from eve which will go in the game 'en masse'
My previous post might have been misinterpreted. Yes, you're welcome to join us. Sign up at http://darkfall.agony-empire.com
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Sever Aldaria
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2008.12.18 16:34:00 -
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Edited by: Sever Aldaria on 18/12/2008 16:37:52 It looks like the NDA has finally been publicly broken for the first time with several screen shot releases:
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm?view=forums&thread=216186&game=4&bhcp=1
[EDIT] they killed the thread. Screen shots here: http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y264/MedRagery/DFndabreak.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y264/MedRagery/DFndabreak1.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y264/MedRagery/DFndabreak2.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y264/MedRagery/DFndabreak3.jpg
Look at the mini map and which direction the player is facing in different screen shots it looks like the dragon is flying circles and patterns around him blasting him from the sky!
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.12.19 10:08:00 -
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Originally by: Sever Aldaria good points
But look at it from the other side. On signup you are asked:
Click 'A' if you would like to be able to attack 5/6ths of the population freely, at the cost of them all being able to attack you too.
Click 'B' if you are ok with only being able to attack 1/2, so you can have more friendly/neutral characters around you.
Of course the population won't split evenly as you say, but you get the idea, there's the PvP option and the carebear option (and the middle option which I left out). -
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Sever Aldaria
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2008.12.19 17:25:00 -
[137]
Originally by: Crumplecorn
Originally by: Sever Aldaria good points
But look at it from the other side. On signup you are asked:
Click 'A' if you would like to be able to attack 5/6ths of the population freely, at the cost of them all being able to attack you too.
Click 'B' if you are ok with only being able to attack 1/2, so you can have more friendly/neutral characters around you.
Of course the population won't split evenly as you say, but you get the idea, there's the PvP option and the carebear option (and the middle option which I left out).
I disagree because either alignment that has more than one race are separated from each other. So each race is surrounded by enemies. If you want the most targets, you only have to go either to your left or right and hunt around in that race's territory. And again, because there will be a lot of outlaws which will have their own outlaw city, there's no immunity from other people of your race. Its just like low sec in EVE. So while one alignment may be able to attack more races without alignment repercussions, I don't think it will matter enough. I think you'll see plenty of pvp no matter which alignment you choose and the carebear focus will not be on random characters named xkbsjeqpf like in high sec EVE because they won't be able to survive on their own very well. Rather, I think the majority of carebears will be in large alliances just like in EVE and those alliances may have inter-alignment NAPs. I know of at least 2 large alliances on the darkfall forums which are of different alliances but are friendly to each other.
Once again, you can attack anyone freely.
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Posted - 2009.01.03 16:56:00 -
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Any news of Darkfalls progression?
Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007. Haruhiists - Supporting Linkification since 2008
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Sever Aldaria
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2009.01.06 18:32:00 -
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Originally by: Arianhod Any news of Darkfalls progression?
Darkfall releases with digital download (like EVE) on January 22 just about 2 weeks from now. No word yet on an open beta. Most suspect a one week or a weekend open beta for stress testing. beta leakers say those that liked Ultima Online will love Darkfall Online.
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kor anon
Amarr The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.01.07 19:10:00 -
[140]
Im getting a raging pvp boner reading up on its features, ill definately get an account if the devs stick to their guns. Suprize ********* here i come |
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Arianhod
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Posted - 2009.01.07 19:12:00 -
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Originally by: kor anon Im getting a raging pvp boner reading up on its features, ill definately get an account if the devs stick to their guns. Suprize ********* here i come
Same here - I plan on rolling in with whatever takes my fancy and then build a Cathederal in the Capital of Agony Empire. |
kor anon
Amarr The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.01.07 19:18:00 -
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Originally by: Arianhod
Originally by: kor anon Im getting a raging pvp boner reading up on its features, ill definately get an account if the devs stick to their guns. Suprize ********* here i come
Same here - I plan on rolling in with whatever takes my fancy and then build a Cathederal in the Capital of Agony Empire.
hehe, i excell at stealthing in fantasy games so watch your back |
Arianhod
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Posted - 2009.01.07 19:21:00 -
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Originally by: kor anon
Originally by: Arianhod
Originally by: kor anon Im getting a raging pvp boner reading up on its features, ill definately get an account if the devs stick to their guns. Suprize ********* here i come
Same here - I plan on rolling in with whatever takes my fancy and then build a Cathederal in the Capital of Agony Empire.
hehe, i excell at stealthing in fantasy games so watch your back
Aren't you going to join the Empire? I plan on making a Cathedral for Haruhiism for the purpose of lulz and signature material |
kor anon
Amarr The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.01.07 19:23:00 -
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Originally by: Arianhod
Originally by: kor anon
Originally by: Arianhod
Originally by: kor anon Im getting a raging pvp boner reading up on its features, ill definately get an account if the devs stick to their guns. Suprize ********* here i come
Same here - I plan on rolling in with whatever takes my fancy and then build a Cathederal in the Capital of Agony Empire.
hehe, i excell at stealthing in fantasy games so watch your back
Aren't you going to join the Empire? I plan on making a Cathedral for Haruhiism for the purpose of lulz and signature material
Sure what the hell, what race group agony going for? |
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Posted - 2009.01.07 19:29:00 -
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Edited by: Arianhod on 07/01/2009 19:28:53
Originally by: kor anon
Sure what the hell, what race group agony going for?
From what I gather, you are asking the equivalent of what race should you go in Eve to be with Agony
There is one race that can't come in afaik, the hardcore pvpers one, can't remember the name off the top of my head atm though >< |
kor anon
Amarr The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.01.07 19:34:00 -
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Originally by: Arianhod Edited by: Arianhod on 07/01/2009 19:28:53
Originally by: kor anon
Sure what the hell, what race group agony going for?
From what I gather, you are asking the equivalent of what race should you go in Eve to be with Agony
There is one race that can't come in afaik, the hardcore pvpers one, can't remember the name off the top of my head atm though ><
ah just checked on the website, its good aligned races so human dwarf and miridain. Sounds good to me as i was going for a human anyway
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Iva Soreass
Gentlemen Bastards
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Posted - 2009.01.07 20:12:00 -
[147]
Only 15 days to go before epic failure becomes reality... |
Gnomes Rock
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Posted - 2009.01.07 20:36:00 -
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Originally by: Arianhod From what I gather, you are asking the equivalent of what race should you go in Eve to be with Agony
There is one race that can't come in afaik, the hardcore pvpers one, can't remember the name off the top of my head atm though ><
So it's true Alfar can't mix with other races?
=(
Whatever, still going with them. =p |
Sever Aldaria
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2009.01.08 22:00:00 -
[149]
Originally by: Gnomes Rock
Originally by: Arianhod From what I gather, you are asking the equivalent of what race should you go in Eve to be with Agony
There is one race that can't come in afaik, the hardcore pvpers one, can't remember the name off the top of my head atm though ><
So it's true Alfar can't mix with other races?
=(
Whatever, still going with them. =p
@ Arianhod
We decided to go with the Humans/Mirdain/Dwarves alignment to give people the most options with choosing what race to play. This means, for now, we won't allow Orks, Mahirim, or Alfar.
@ Gnomes Rock
A Clan can have all races if they wish, but it creates complications with clan management. For one, if your clan occupies a city/outpost ect. you can only have one race of npc guards. So if you hire say Human npc guards, it doesn't matter if you're in clan or not, if you're an Alfar or Mahirim or Ork then you're going to be attacked by them. So it just makes things harder on you.
P.S. Alfar look too emo/creepy for me. Not like, "Ah! They're scary!" but like "Ah! What the hell were you artists thinking when you designed Alfar?"
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Cosy
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Originally by: Sever Aldaria
Originally by: Gnomes Rock
Originally by: Arianhod From what I gather, you are asking the equivalent of what race should you go in Eve to be with Agony
There is one race that can't come in afaik, the hardcore pvpers one, can't remember the name off the top of my head atm though ><
So it's true Alfar can't mix with other races?
=(
Whatever, still going with them. =p
@ Arianhod
We decided to go with the Humans/Mirdain/Dwarves alignment to give people the most options with choosing what race to play. This means, for now, we won't allow Orks, Mahirim, or Alfar.
@ Gnomes Rock
A Clan can have all races if they wish, but it creates complications with clan management. For one, if your clan occupies a city/outpost ect. you can only have one race of npc guards. So if you hire say Human npc guards, it doesn't matter if you're in clan or not, if you're an Alfar or Mahirim or Ork then you're going to be attacked by them. So it just makes things harder on you.
P.S. Alfar look too emo/creepy for me. Not like, "Ah! They're scary!" but like "Ah! What the hell were you artists thinking when you designed Alfar?"
but you can kill your own clan guards no ?
orc ftw
Originally by: CCP Mitnal Any complaints can be directed towards our Music Director
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Technomagez
Gallente teeny tiny space pirates
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Posted - 2009.01.10 12:38:00 -
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Pew pew, I'm gonna be there, been watching it for years. |
Sedious Bloke
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Posted - 2009.01.10 17:12:00 -
[152]
....There is no way they are going to pull this off....but if they do??? :/ i had a tear run down my face while watching the youtube vid. Free again?? |
ceaon
Gallente Porandor
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Posted - 2009.01.10 21:00:00 -
[153]
i just saw this and i loled :D /share
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Sedious Bloke
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Posted - 2009.01.10 23:29:00 -
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Originally by: ceaon i just saw this and i loled :D /share
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I saved it to disk cause it made me lol too PvP In Mie EvE?!?!!! |
Sever Aldaria
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2009.01.11 19:31:00 -
[155]
Originally by: Cosy
Originally by: Sever Aldaria
@ Gnomes Rock
A Clan can have all races if they wish, but it creates complications with clan management. For one, if your clan occupies a city/outpost ect. you can only have one race of npc guards. So if you hire say Human npc guards, it doesn't matter if you're in clan or not, if you're an Alfar or Mahirim or Ork then you're going to be attacked by them. So it just makes things harder on you.
but you can kill your own clan guards no ?
orc ftw
I guess technically you could but I don't think they'd be too happy about that.
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Iva Soreass
Gentlemen Bastards
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Posted - 2009.01.15 19:18:00 -
[156]
Originally by: Iva Soreass Only 15 days to go before epic failure becomes reality...
Well i guess it took them only 8 days !
DELAYED. |
Cornelius Poindexter
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Posted - 2009.01.15 23:03:00 -
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This game will flop just as hard as DnL did. In fact, everything is taking place EXACTLY like DnL did. Delays, flip-flopping on open beta/trial, allowing pre-orders (DnL ripped many people off by doing this), head developer changing stories (first belligerent, now apologetic). This is small Greek development house that is surely a bunch of amateurs. I hope I am wrong, but the excitement in this thread will be doused come late February. Be warned all, this will be a very horrible experience if you buy it. |
MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2009.01.16 04:04:00 -
[158]
Edited by: MotherMoon on 16/01/2009 04:04:25
Originally by: Iva Soreass
Originally by: Iva Soreass Only 15 days to go before epic failure becomes reality...
Well i guess it took them only 8 days !
DELAYED.
who gives a ****, the anouncment was we get to play it publicly on the 22 of january. what is the big deal, the longer they keep an open beta the better I say.
now if they delay the open beta from the 22nd then yeah forget it, it's going to die. |
Sever Aldaria
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2009.01.18 23:28:00 -
[159]
Originally by: Cornelius Poindexter This game will flop just as hard as DnL did. In fact, everything is taking place EXACTLY like DnL did. Delays, flip-flopping on open beta/trial, allowing pre-orders (DnL ripped many people off by doing this), head developer changing stories (first belligerent, now apologetic). This is small Greek development house that is surely a bunch of amateurs. I hope I am wrong, but the excitement in this thread will be doused come late February. Be warned all, this will be a very horrible experience if you buy it.
CCP was once there when they came out of nowhere with EVE Online
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ceaon
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.04.03 01:04:00 -
[160]
gratz for getting a hamlet Agony
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2009.04.03 07:54:00 -
[161]
Originally by: Sever Aldaria
Originally by: Cornelius Poindexter This game will flop just as hard as DnL did. In fact, everything is taking place EXACTLY like DnL did. Delays, flip-flopping on open beta/trial, allowing pre-orders (DnL ripped many people off by doing this), head developer changing stories (first belligerent, now apologetic). This is small Greek development house that is surely a bunch of amateurs. I hope I am wrong, but the excitement in this thread will be doused come late February. Be warned all, this will be a very horrible experience if you buy it.
CCP was once there when they came out of nowhere with EVE Online
that's the one thing that keeps my hope alive for this game to one day be good.
look at eve online 6 years ago.
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Forando
Interstellar Cowards
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Posted - 2009.04.03 08:56:00 -
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I'll be there with a few friends from Lineage II.
I understand the nay-sayers. We recently had Warhammer Online and Age of Conan that was highly anticipated, but didn't turn out to be as strong contenders for solid PvP as they were made out to be. Age of Conan looked very strong on paper, but it was wrongly implemented and silly machine requirements easily made it flop. Things like they will easily get you cautious when another title is about to launch.
I believe Darkfall has the basics down, and has been making sure they were solid before going any step further to launch. They do have a development cycle that gives even Duke Nukem a run for it's money though!
Enjoy, and fly safe..
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ceaon
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.04.03 20:32:00 -
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Originally by: ceaon gratz for getting a hamlet Agony
damn stupid me HAHAHAHA u buy a hamlet agony what a fail
are u ally whit Death alliance ?
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Asuka Smith
Gallente StarHunt
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Posted - 2009.04.04 06:29:00 -
[164]
After Age of Conan I am never getting sucked in by MMO hype again, and I caution everyone else from getting their hopes up.
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Black Sabbath
Amarr Relentless Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.04.05 15:11:00 -
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what a badass game that darkfall, you can download client BUT YOU CAN NOT PAY FOR IT SO THAT YOU COULD PLAY IT
L M M AA OOOO L Mm mM A A O O L M mm M AAAA O O L M M A A O O LLLL M M A A OOOO |
Black Sabbath
Amarr Relentless Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.04.05 15:12:00 -
[166]
Edited by: Black Sabbath on 05/04/2009 15:13:01
what a badass game that darkfall, you can download client BUT YOU CAN NOT PAY FOR IT SO THAT YOU COULD PLAY IT
LMAO ROFL THROW UP!! |
Black Sabbath
Amarr Relentless Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.04.05 15:13:00 -
[167]
what a badass game that darkfall, you can download client BUT YOU CAN NOT PAY FOR IT SO THAT YOU COULD PLAY IT
LMAO ROFL THROW UP!! |
ry ry
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Posted - 2009.04.05 18:17:00 -
[168]
what a badass post, clearly all that badass wouldn't fit in a single post.
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Sever Aldaria
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2009.04.08 21:18:00 -
[169]
Originally by: ceaon
Originally by: ceaon gratz for getting a hamlet Agony
damn stupid me HAHAHAHA u buy a hamlet agony what a fail
are u ally whit Death alliance ?
Thanks for the original congrats, its a nice hamlet . We didn't buy our hamlet. I'm not sure where you're getting your information from.
We certainly aren't allied with Death alliance as we've been fending off many attacks and a lot of numbers they've been throwing at us. A lot of fighting recently. Very exciting.
P.S. Aventurine fails and is a newbie company, but the game itself has potential. Still a lot of things they need to get worked out so if you aren't really excited about it or have friends playing it then I wouldn't try buying it when their stores periodically open. I'd wait about 2-3 months. It is fun though. Just needs some more work (mostly balancing)
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ceaon
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.04.08 23:21:00 -
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well on the clan forums the ex owned told that they sold that hamlet
i know now that u are not in death alliance u are latin(now renamed also ?), hows to be hyperion pet ?
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Sever Aldaria
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2009.04.09 03:57:00 -
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Originally by: ceaon well on the clan forums the ex owned told that they sold that hamlet
i know now that u are not in death alliance u are latin(now renamed also ?), hows to be hyperion pet ?
Darkfall forums are full of misinformation. We didn't buy anything. DHoV took a city and, being too far apart to protect both, we took the hamlet.
Latin Federation was a name the forum fallers came up with because it was originally spanish speaking clans. I think the name we've decided on is the Dvergheim compact.
Hehe, we aren't a Hyperion pet . They can't tell us what to do. We make all our own decisions as do they. So far, I haven't really seen any "pets" in Darkfall. Clans that don't go it solo (and hence don't get involved in political wars or own a hamlet/city) either all ally up into a zerg, or they are friendly with other alliances and show up to the big fights In our case, its the latter
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