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GENERAL CONSTANTINO
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Posted - 2008.11.18 05:20:00 -
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THIS ARTICLE is intended mainly for new ussers, so if you think you are good enough or know a lot about alarming scamms in eve online, then you are not required to read this. [as in no sense to do it],
but for ALL NEW PALYER YOU MUST READ this article cause this will surely help you to detect and avoid scamms.
as to the author, i acknowledge my self to be a non expert and i dont pretend i know everything, so any players who could share their knowledge about the matter should be welcome to post below, remember i intend to write this to help new players avoid scamm based on my own knowledge and opinions only so please respect opinions and avoid nonsense critism.
REMINDER: this article is intended to inform new players about deferent scamms in eve online, and strickly not intended to teach them how to scamm.
i understand not all people here understand english launguage very well, esp the word SCAMM. So for those player dont know what scamm means? heres a difination taken from a dictionary:
SCAMM- to cheat or swindle, A scheme for making money by deceptive, dishonest, or fraudulent means.
To fool other people just to get ones desire and intentions particularly regarding the issue of wealth.
MAJOR CATHEGORIES OF MOST COMMON SCAMMS:
1. VIA CONTRACT
2. VIA SIMPLE TRADE IN STATIONS
3. VIA OPEN DEAL OR AGREEMENT
4. VIA GAME FORUMS
this gathegories will be further explain in the succeeding topic tabs below:
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Mankirks Wife
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Posted - 2008.11.18 05:27:00 -
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If you liked this article, please send any and all donations of ISK to this character.
Thank you!
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fuxinos
Caldari
Guys 0f Sarcasm
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Posted - 2008.11.18 05:27:00 -
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 Originally by: GENERAL CONSTANTINO
iunderstand not all people here understand english launguage very well
you included? :P
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Khemul Zula
Amarr
Black Plague.
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Posted - 2008.11.18 05:29:00 -
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Edited by: Khemul Zula on 18/11/2008 05:32:35
This should help you with the first part Linkage.
Also Linkage.
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Troye
Gallente
Strix Armaments and Defence
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Posted - 2008.11.18 05:42:00 -
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Edited by: Troye on 18/11/2008 05:44:21
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This article is intended for new users, so if you're already familiar with the dangers of scamming in EVE then you need not read this.
But for all new players it is imperative that you read this as it will help you to detect and avoid becoming a victim yourself.
As the author of this article I acknowledge my self as a non expert and don't pretend I know everything on this matter, so if anyone wants to add to this they are more than welcome to. Remember this is written from my own knowledge and experience in the hope of protecting new players and helping them avoid scams, so please respect my opinions.
Reminder: this article is intended to inform new players about the different scams that exist in Eve Online, and strictly not intended to teach them how to scam.
I understand not all people here understand the English language very well, especially regarding the word scam. So for those players which donÆt know what scam means, hereÆs a definition taken from an English dictionary:
SCAM- to cheat or swindle, a scheme for making money by deceptive, dishonest, or fraudulent means.
To fool other people just to get ones desire and intentions particularly regarding the issue of wealth.
MAJOR CATHEGORIES OF MOST COMMON SCAMMS:
1. VIA CONTRACT
2. VIA SIMPLE TRADE IN STATIONS
3. VIA OPEN DEAL OR AGREEMENT
4. VIA GAME FORUMS
These categories will be further explained in the following topic tabs:
Fixed spelling and grammar for you. |
EnslaverOfMinmatar
Yarsk Hunters
DeaDSpace Coalition
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Posted - 2008.11.18 05:49:00 -
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Ignore the OP, he's trying to SCAMM you!
uʍop ǝpısdn ǝɹnʇɐuƃıs ʎɯ ƃuıpɐǝɹ ǝɹɐ noʎ
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F90OEX
F9X
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Posted - 2008.11.18 05:50:00 -
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I'd say good effort to the OP, but most people who play eve, don't even read the news items when logging into the game. Never mind the forums lol ...
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Khemul Zula
Amarr
Black Plague.
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Posted - 2008.11.18 05:51:00 -
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Originally by: F90OEX
I'd say good effort to the OP, but most people who play eve, don't even read the news items when logging into the game. Never mind the forums lol ...
News items?
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Astorothe
Aperture Science Industries
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Posted - 2008.11.18 05:52:00 -
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Scam has but one M.
RPGN Gaming Network - Eve News, Gaming News, Forums & Community - Home of Aperture Science Corp [ApSci] |
Jukhta Mein
Domini Umbrus
R.U.R.
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Posted - 2008.11.18 05:57:00 -
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Originally by: EnslaverOfMinmatar
Ignore the OP, he's trying to SCAMM you!
Scam.
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Maria Angelis
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Posted - 2008.11.18 06:03:00 -
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Reported for scamming.
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GENERAL CONSTANTINO
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Posted - 2008.11.18 06:05:00 -
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VIA CONTRACT
- contract are used by most scammers to fool people about the items or ships etc. that they are selling,
sadly even if EVE CONTRACTS are intended to help player avoid scamms they are now one of the most effective and most common tools used for scamming 
HOW TO DETECT IF THE CONTRACT IS SCAMM
1. look at the contract description or name, if the contract description/name doesnt match the item offered? then it is a 100% SCAMM! REJECT IT!
for example:
*contract title: RAVEN NAVY ISSUE
then you look at the item offered only says :
*ITEM OFFERED: RAVEN- BATTLE SHIP.
THIS IS A 100 PERCENT SURE SCAMM! NEVER ACCEPT IT!
you must keep in mind that once you see a good item in contract description you must look at the item first in that contract,
NEVER ACCEPT CONTRACT WITHOUT CHECKING ALL THE ITEMS IN THAT CONTRACT!
Since contract descriptions can be made by players contrary to what the contract contains.
2. TYPE OF CONTRACT
- now this is one of the most decieving type of all! the player must be aware that if they wish to buy anything using a private contract they make sure to choose ITEM EXCHANGE! why? cause now adays scammers can throw you contract using FREE FORM in which THEY CAN CHANGE THE TITLE OF THE CONTRACT FORM to fool players. take it for example true contract form is FREEFORM- COLLATERAL OR LOAN, they can change the description to FREEFORM-ITEM EXCHANGE!
now instead of buying it, you end up paying huge amount of isk in borrowing it and in the end? you pay a lot and get nothing... want an example?
example instead of putting FREEFORM at contract type description, scammers put ITEM EXCHANGE on the contract type discription and bingo, you will not recieve anything at the end .
SO LIKE THIS: (real experience)
i am going to buy a CHIMERA and ask everyone at jita WTB CHIMERA,
finaly a guy convo me and offer one for only 600 million isk, a CARRIER SHIP CANT BE BUY THAT PRICE, so in my excitement i accept it. coz what i see in FREEFORM CONTRACT description it says "ITEM EXCHANGE"!
the deal was closed, i pay and have my chimera on hangar, but a day after, i wake up and find out that my CARRIER was not in the hangar. until then i remember the contract and review it! since i leave my computer open for 24 hours. so i end up With a finding like this:
CONTRACT FORM: FREEFORM
contract description : ITEM EXCHANGE
contract type: COLLATERAL
offered item: CHIMERA/CARRIER
wooooaahhh, i find my self borrowing a carrier for 24 hours instead of buying it!!! and i borrow it for 600,000,000.oo isk
as a leason, i like to share this to all ESPECIALY TO NEW PLAYERS, TO BE SAFE NEVER EVER ACCEPT FREEFORM CONTRACTS TO ANY PLAYER ESPECIALY TO THOSE YOU DONT KNOW!!!
to have a safe contract deal make sure you are accepting ITEM EXCHANGE not FREEFORM:TYPE-ITEM EXCHANGE since scammers can easily modified them and hide its real contract type ussing thier contract discription
FURTHER INFO TO DETECT THIS DECIEVING CONTRACT FORM:
upon viewing a contract EVE ONLINE Will inform you in this manner:
"YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ACCEPT ANY ITEMS IN THIS CONTRACT, are you sure you wanna continue?"
if you see that warning from eve once you open a contract, REJECT IT RIGHT AWAY! no need to accept it, coz if you do, you end up paying for a ship that you can only borrow but you cant own, you will end up PAYING millions or even billions of ISK for borrowing a ship you want instead of buying it! 
so to be safe : if you wanna buy something trough private contract MAKE SURE YOU DO THIS:
1. check if the items corresponds to the contract discriptions. if the item/s you are about to pay is real,
2. further check the DESCRIPTIONS of item, each item has descriptions on it and its esp. if you buy SHIP DONT EVER FORGET TO READ THE SHIPS DESCRIPTION by right right clicking it.
3 CHECK THE ITEM TYPE.
MAKE SURE ITS ITEM EXCHANGE
NOT FREEFORM-ITEM EXCHANGE-COLLATERAL
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Murk Loar
Polytope
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Posted - 2008.11.18 06:16:00 -
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WTS Prototype Anti-Scam Radar Hardwiring Implant.
First one to open trade window with me in Jita 4-4 I will sell for third of current price...thats only 200 million ISK!
CHEAPEST IN REGION!! |
GENERAL CONSTANTINO
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Posted - 2008.11.18 06:25:00 -
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VIA STATION TRADE;
now this one is kinda tricky, poeple will usualy use trial account to scamm other people, the trick? they change the name of the ship by the use of thier own paying acount and let the trial account do the scamming!
example:
since the ships name cant be change in a trial account a paying account will do it, so after he hes paying account change the name take it for example: ORDINARY CARACAL and he change the name to Caracal Navy Issue, after he do that he then goes to a moon, eject and put a pasword on that ship,then a trail account then goes to the same location, since the person doing this is only one, he then ofcourse know the pass and then hes trial account can drive to station, after docking at the station where he want to do a trade scamm, he then starts to say:
WANT TO TRADE CARRACAL NAVY ISSUE, please trade me since im only a trial account i cant use CONTRACT,
( cos if he do, most people can detect its a scamm when he do this at contract. )
ships name that has been changed and pass in trade cant be detected by most usser. and since once you right click it you see the name (which has been changed) but you cant detect it in one look, unless you are an expert player and knows very well on the ship you are viewing by only one glimps, and in addition you check the guy slling hes about few days old, so you suspect nothing, and you think hes realy a trial account, dont know much thats why hes selling this for a low price!
so you end up buying it, afterwards you check it, its FAKE!!!
im not good at explaining things, but i realy do hope this example can give an idea to new players here..
WAYS TO AVIOD SCAMMS AT TRADE:
1. when buying ship trough derect station trade, make sure its been "REPACKAGE" since repackaging the ship will reset its real name.
" DO NOT EVER ACCEPT SHIPS AT DIRRECT TRADE THAT IS NOT REPACKAGE" since you will be exposed to danger of being fooled by thier names. buy only repackage trade items at direct station player to player trade... |
Gerardd
Caldari
Khanid Division
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Posted - 2008.11.18 06:26:00 -
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Or to keep it simple, there is an old rule that still applies:
If an offer looks to be too good to be true, it usually is |
Pesky LaRue
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.11.18 06:29:00 -
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is this some kind of performance art? |
Hope Troja
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.11.18 06:32:00 -
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This thread is just so cute |
Khemul Zula
Amarr
Black Plague.
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Posted - 2008.11.18 06:32:00 -
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Originally by: GENERAL CONSTANTINO
since the ships name cant be change in a trial account a paying account will do it, so after he hes paying account change the name take it for example: ORDINARY CARACAL and he change the name to Caracal Navy Issue, after he do that he then goes to a moon, eject and put a pasword on that ship,then a trail account then goes to the same location, since the person doing this is only one, he then ofcourse know the pass and then hes trial account can drive to station, after docking at the station where he want to do a trade scamm, he then starts to say:
That is has to be the most convoluted way of doing that scam I have ever seen. |
Troye
Gallente
Strix Armaments and Defence
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Posted - 2008.11.18 06:42:00 -
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Originally by: Khemul Zula
Originally by: GENERAL CONSTANTINO
since the ships name cant be change in a trial account a paying account will do it, so after he hes paying account change the name take it for example: ORDINARY CARACAL and he change the name to Caracal Navy Issue, after he do that he then goes to a moon, eject and put a pasword on that ship,then a trail account then goes to the same location, since the person doing this is only one, he then ofcourse know the pass and then hes trial account can drive to station, after docking at the station where he want to do a trade scamm, he then starts to say:
That is has to be the most convoluted way of doing that scam I have ever seen.
I started translating his other posts into English aswel but it just got too confusing, I'll admit this is beyong me. |
Qordel
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.11.18 06:59:00 -
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I love rebels who live by their own rules, unconstrained by punctuation, grammar, spelling, capitalization or complete sentences. Kudos! |
Mallikan
Gallente
Plundering Penguins
Anarchy.
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Posted - 2008.11.18 07:05:00 -
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CAPS LOCK STANDS FOR TRUTH AND JUSTICE. |
Arakidias
Murky Inc.
Power Of 3
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Posted - 2008.11.18 07:21:00 -
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Nothing says "important" LIKE RANDOM LINES IN CAPS! |
GENERAL CONSTANTINO
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Posted - 2008.11.18 07:32:00 -
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the last 2 cathegories will be further explained below, i apologize for any typographical errors and grammatical errors here, i just have a shot amount of time to say all of this. i will continue this later. thanks for taking time to read this.
fly safe. |
Jaxxon Voers
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Posted - 2008.11.18 07:36:00 -
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Quote:
SO LIKE THIS: (real experience)
i am going to buy a CHIMERA and ask everyone at jita WTB CHIMERA,
finaly a guy convo me and offer one for only 600 million isk, a CARRIER SHIP CANT BE BUY THAT PRICE, so in my excitement i accept it. coz what i see in FREEFORM CONTRACT description it says "ITEM EXCHANGE"!
the deal was closed, i pay and have my chimera on hangar, but a day after, i wake up and find out that my CARRIER was not in the hangar. until then i remember the contract and review it! since i leave my computer open for 24 hours. so i end up With a finding like this:
CONTRACT FORM: FREEFORM
contract description : ITEM EXCHANGE
contract type: COLLATERAL
offered item: CHIMERA/CARRIER
I lol'd so loud i woke my wife up.
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Ralara
Caldari
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.11.18 07:45:00 -
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Originally by: GENERAL CONSTANTINO
im not good at explaining things,
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Fink Angel
Caldari
The Merry Men
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Posted - 2008.11.18 07:55:00 -
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There's an English phrase that you need to remember. I'm not sure if it's made it into other languages (or indeed it might have originated in another language!) ...
"There's no such thing as a free lunch." |
W3370Pi4
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.11.18 08:00:00 -
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Originally by: GENERAL CONSTANTINO
im not good at explaining things,
just make a mailing list and you will be able to post or delete all youwant
or you can just join the "Legit Trading" channel ingame
making it more simple one day after the other |
Cyprus Black
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.11.18 08:19:00 -
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How come when I read the OP's post, I hear the ShamWoW guys voice?
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The Escapist: EvE Online video review. |
Dantes Revenge
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.11.18 08:46:00 -
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Originally by: Mankirks Wife
If you liked this article, please send any and all donations of ISK to this character.
Thank you!
ISK sent... DOH!
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Irish Whiskey
Caldari
Warped Mining
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Posted - 2008.11.18 08:48:00 -
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Edited by: Irish Whiskey on 18/11/2008 08:48:31
Originally by: Cyprus Black
How come when I read the OP's post, I hear the ShamWoW guys voice?
ARGH!
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