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Ithildin	Posted - 2004.07.14 18:49:00 - [91] Originally by: Mikelangelo Edited by: Mikelangelo on 14/07/2004 17:59:02 Gah, I forgot, Shield upgrades kill applies only to power requirements of shield extenders....that's silly Yeah, but it's the only one (to my knowledge) that decrease power requirement instead of CPU requirement. That in itself is rather neat. -- If TC causes you discomfort that you feel is unwarranted or may be outside TC's current contract - contact me, please.
Ithildin	Posted - 2004.07.14 18:49:00 - [92] Originally by: Mikelangelo Edited by: Mikelangelo on 14/07/2004 17:59:02 Gah, I forgot, Shield upgrades kill applies only to power requirements of shield extenders....that's silly Yeah, but it's the only one (to my knowledge) that decrease power requirement instead of CPU requirement. That in itself is rather neat. -- If TC causes you discomfort that you feel is unwarranted or may be outside TC's current contract - contact me, please.
Aequitas Veritas	Posted - 2004.07.14 18:57:00 - [93] Edited by: Aequitas Veritas on 14/07/2004 19:00:09 Originally by: Hellek For ships who got medslots and CPU en masse but not much cap or lowslots, shield extenders are useful and I have seen several scorps that use them so I think they are fine. Sure their high CPU demands are limiting their usefullness but they are far from useless. Well, for scorp using htem the CPU wont be the limiting factor almost regarldess of how you fit it. On a Raven on the other hand, fitting them in nearly impossible as they are now, and what about fitting them on a dominix? So fine, it can be used on scorps but no other shield tanker with its current cpu demand. And it still doesnt justify that its so easy to fit the Armor Reinforcers compared to the SE. All armor tanknig ships can fit AR, only the scorp can fit the SE. Fitting reqs are very unbalanced, can you argue against that?
Aequitas Veritas	Posted - 2004.07.14 18:57:00 - [94] Edited by: Aequitas Veritas on 14/07/2004 19:00:09 Originally by: Hellek For ships who got medslots and CPU en masse but not much cap or lowslots, shield extenders are useful and I have seen several scorps that use them so I think they are fine. Sure their high CPU demands are limiting their usefullness but they are far from useless. Well, for scorp using htem the CPU wont be the limiting factor almost regarldess of how you fit it. On a Raven on the other hand, fitting them in nearly impossible as they are now, and what about fitting them on a dominix? So fine, it can be used on scorps but no other shield tanker with its current cpu demand. And it still doesnt justify that its so easy to fit the Armor Reinforcers compared to the SE. All armor tanknig ships can fit AR, only the scorp can fit the SE. Fitting reqs are very unbalanced, can you argue against that?
Bobby Wilson	Posted - 2004.07.14 19:27:00 - [95] Tell you what. I'll vote for shield extenders to be brought in line with armor plate if we add to that vote the release of blueprints for the steel armor plate. Otherwise we're comparing a loot-dropped item to an item that anyone can make, so saying the loot-dropped one is unjustly easier to fit for the effect isn't on IMHO. BW Originally by: Selim Cool, congrats. Oh, stupid idea by the way.
Bobby Wilson	Posted - 2004.07.14 19:27:00 - [96] Tell you what. I'll vote for shield extenders to be brought in line with armor plate if we add to that vote the release of blueprints for the steel armor plate. Otherwise we're comparing a loot-dropped item to an item that anyone can make, so saying the loot-dropped one is unjustly easier to fit for the effect isn't on IMHO. BW Originally by: Selim Cool, congrats. Oh, stupid idea by the way.
Kinnison	Posted - 2004.07.16 09:26:00 - [97] hmmm - as CPU appears to be the main problem for shield extenders, I'll have to look into putting one on my indy. What's the PG requirement for small and medium shield extenders, anyone?
Kinnison	Posted - 2004.07.16 09:26:00 - [98] hmmm - as CPU appears to be the main problem for shield extenders, I'll have to look into putting one on my indy. What's the PG requirement for small and medium shield extenders, anyone?
Kerr AVON	Posted - 2004.07.17 12:55:00 - [99] I've found that using a Large Shield Extender on my Thorax is very useful on agent kill missions, and in certain situations fairly useful for npc rat hunting. Assuming you're weird like me and like to shield tank a Thorax _____________________ Questions are a burden to others; answers a prison for oneself Combat Your 250mm Railgun II perfectly strikes Blood Arch Engraver, wrecking for 737.7 damage.
Kerr AVON	Posted - 2004.07.17 12:55:00 - [100] I've found that using a Large Shield Extender on my Thorax is very useful on agent kill missions, and in certain situations fairly useful for npc rat hunting. Assuming you're weird like me and like to shield tank a Thorax _____________________ Questions are a burden to others; answers a prison for oneself Combat Your 250mm Railgun II perfectly strikes Blood Arch Engraver, wrecking for 737.7 damage.
JoCool	Posted - 2004.07.17 14:02:00 - [101] Edited by: JoCool on 17/07/2004 14:05:17 So you try to shield tank your Thorax with using two medslots only? That's anything but tanking. Fitting requirements are unbalanced, I think SE should have 250mw and 50tf requirements for them to become a real consideration to use as a medslot item.
JoCool	Posted - 2004.07.17 14:02:00 - [102] Edited by: JoCool on 17/07/2004 14:05:17 So you try to shield tank your Thorax with using two medslots only? That's anything but tanking. Fitting requirements are unbalanced, I think SE should have 250mw and 50tf requirements for them to become a real consideration to use as a medslot item.
Jarjar	Posted - 2004.07.17 14:15:00 - [103] Originally by: JoCool Fitting requirements are unbalanced, I think SE should have 250mw and 50tf requirements for them to become a real consideration to use as a medslot item. I hope you're not talking about large shield extenders? A cruiser could fit 4 of those -> Moa with 1200+4000 shield and 4 diags -> 7604hp with shield management 5...
Jarjar	Posted - 2004.07.17 14:15:00 - [104] Originally by: JoCool Fitting requirements are unbalanced, I think SE should have 250mw and 50tf requirements for them to become a real consideration to use as a medslot item. I hope you're not talking about large shield extenders? A cruiser could fit 4 of those -> Moa with 1200+4000 shield and 4 diags -> 7604hp with shield management 5...
Arthur Guinness	Posted - 2004.07.17 14:42:00 - [105] It couldn't fit much else tough. Keep in mind that these would half the fitting reqs, and atm, not even a raven can fit a single L shield extender without gimping your setup.
Arthur Guinness	Posted - 2004.07.17 14:42:00 - [106] It couldn't fit much else tough. Keep in mind that these would half the fitting reqs, and atm, not even a raven can fit a single L shield extender without gimping your setup.

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