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Vested Interest
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Posted - 2009.02.23 09:18:00 -
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Edited by: Vested Interest on 23/02/2009 09:18:10 I think the very last one you mentioned there may be the old "opens infinite duplicate copies of the Unacknowledged Orders window" bug that was fixed awhile ago. I've had that one come up a couple times lately.
edit: I own page 20
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Kan'Nal
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Posted - 2009.02.23 13:32:00 -
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Originally by: No Profit
Originally by: Kan'Nal
Some other bug I encountered: the API window with the updatetimers for all the chars cuts off its width right before the time display and the checkboxes are unreachable. Resizing doesn't help. Altough I am not sure if that is fixed already in the latest stable version.
Are you running on Vista with the aero interface? There are some graphical problems that occur when using Aero with EMMA.
Originally by: Kan'Nal
Feature request: can we get the Item detail report back, please? I saw it in any earlier version.
Item detail will be making a return soon.
No, XP SP3, but with Windowblinds GUI. Anyways, that bug seems to be gone with the latest version, didn't run into it again.
And great news on the Item detail report.
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Anest Dura
Gallente University of Caille
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Posted - 2009.02.23 20:51:00 -
[573]
I was just wondering how I can get my hands on the beta updates as the Update button in EMMA just spits back an error for me. Is there any other way to get the beta updates for EMMA?
Any help you guys could give me would be great.
Thanks :)
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Marius Rau
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Posted - 2009.02.24 05:41:00 -
[574]
Just getting into some of this and want to give EMMA a try. I downloaded the most recent file on eve-files, which I assume is the latest version as I didn't see a version number. I tried to run the exe file and got an error that I needed the x86 version; I'm running Vista x64. I got an older version, 1.0.0.1 I think and got this error when trying to install:
Prerequisite check for system component SQL Server 2005 Express Edition failed with the following error message: "This version of SQL Server 2005 Express Edition is not supported for the current processor architecture."
I managed to run a file from something like v0.97, but it would load up to the point where it asked for API and then give me a similar SQL error.
Is this compatible with Vista 64? I didn't see anything about it on the forums, but I could have missed it. Could you maybe post direct links to the full download of the most recent version for those of us just looking at EMMA that aren't using an autoupdater?
Thanks, this looks like a great program from the screenshots.
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No Profit
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Posted - 2009.02.24 08:30:00 -
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Originally by: Kan'Nal
Edit: A Feature I would like to see added: beeing able to set favourite customized Reports using the same Report wizard but save its settings into a dropdown box. Would roxxor. 
It's on my to do list but there's a LOT of other stuff on there and it's low priority so don't hold your breath. 
Originally by: Anest Dura I was just wondering how I can get my hands on the beta updates as the Update button in EMMA just spits back an error for me. Is there any other way to get the beta updates for EMMA?
Any help you guys could give me would be great.
Thanks :)
I think you are sorted after our emails? Let me know if you have any more problems.
Originally by: Marius Rau Just getting into some of this and want to give EMMA a try. I downloaded the most recent file on eve-files, which I assume is the latest version as I didn't see a version number. I tried to run the exe file and got an error that I needed the x86 version; I'm running Vista x64. I got an older version, 1.0.0.1 I think and got this error when trying to install:
Prerequisite check for system component SQL Server 2005 Express Edition failed with the following error message: "This version of SQL Server 2005 Express Edition is not supported for the current processor architecture."
I managed to run a file from something like v0.97, but it would load up to the point where it asked for API and then give me a similar SQL error.
Is this compatible with Vista 64? I didn't see anything about it on the forums, but I could have missed it. Could you maybe post direct links to the full download of the most recent version for those of us just looking at EMMA that aren't using an autoupdater?
Thanks, this looks like a great program from the screenshots.
There is only an installer for version 1.0.0.1 or somthing. This will auto update to the latest version when you first run though.
I'm also planning to release a new installer with version 1.3.0.0.
Vista 64 will work fine but somtimes the installer seems to have problems putting SQL Express on 64 bit systems. You can download and install it manually from here. Scroll to the very bottom and look for the line "* For the 64-bit install of SQL Server 2005 Express Edition, click here".
If you still have problems, you might want to check out this very detailed post from ScenecS about getting vista 64 to work with SQL express 2008.
Finally, SQL x64 has a bug that prevents a the 'CLR integration' setting from being set correctly. This means you have to get it all setup and run EMMA. You'll then get a message like 'CLR integration not enabled'. Just restart your machine and you should then be good to go.
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Sprawdzacz
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Posted - 2009.02.24 14:34:00 -
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I thought that this is EMMA vs Vista problem but today after 6 months I downloaded new emma and... I still cant update Journal information : > It says "EVE API error 100" .
Any solutions for this?;>
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ResearchBunny Beatrix
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Posted - 2009.02.24 17:58:00 -
[577]
Also, Re: EMMA and Vista x64- EMMA works flawlessly on SQL Express 2008
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No Profit
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Posted - 2009.02.25 16:59:00 -
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Originally by: Sprawdzacz I thought that this is EMMA vs Vista problem but today after 6 months I downloaded new emma and... I still cant update Journal information : > It says "EVE API error 100" .
Any solutions for this?;>
I've been looking into this today and I can only come up with one solution and it requires some knowledge of the data retrieval process to explain:
When getting journal data from the API, you first send your request and (assuming there are no errors) you get back the 1000 most recent journal entries. These are processed and then EMMA will request the next 1000 entries. This continues until EMMA recieves back a 'wallet exhausted' error. EMMA then adds all the processed entries to the database.
What I believe is happening is that, in some cases, the second request for data is hitting the API server before it's fully dealt with the first request. This means that your asking for the next 1000 records and the API server dosn't think that you've asked for the first 1000 yet. This causes the error 100 to be returned.
To be honest, I find it unlikley that the API server is programmed in such a way as to allow this to occur but I simply cannot see any other explanation.
My fix for this is to make sure EMMA always waits at least 2 seconds between sending data requests for the same wallet. It will mean minor delays when updating data but shouldn't be that big a deal. This will be available in the next update.
Originally by: ResearchBunny Beatrix Also, Re: EMMA and Vista x64- EMMA works flawlessly on SQL Express 2008
Thanks, glad to hear it. 
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Vested Interest
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Posted - 2009.02.25 19:29:00 -
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I'd like to be able to play with the reprocessing calculator without exposing my entire manifest to eve-central. Could you put in an option to allow mineral price lookups only?
Thanks again,
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No Profit
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Posted - 2009.02.25 21:59:00 -
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Originally by: Vested Interest I'd like to be able to play with the reprocessing calculator without exposing my entire manifest to eve-central. Could you put in an option to allow mineral price lookups only?
Thanks again,
I can add it to my to do list.
However, bear in mind that no data is uploaded to eve central from EMMA. It only requests information.
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CSI Eve
Caldari atomic comic New Eden Research
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Posted - 2009.02.26 09:02:00 -
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ok, a some things from me (loaby):
- i too get the api 100 error for the jorunal update since 2 or 3 days. it updated correctly once yesterday though, but got that error again today
- the nav report works but it takes about 20 minutes until it is processed
- the nav report gives me some strange numbers, e.g. my amount in escrow is way too big
- the autocontractor calculates with some ridiculous wrong numbers, e.g. reprocess value for meta 0 items 100 times higher than it should be. i looked into the items value settings and run the value calc and it again took those numbers as reprocessed value. that causes the autocontractor to show strange values, thus makes it unusable
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RaTTuS
BIG Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.02.26 11:30:00 -
[582]
Edited by: RaTTuS on 26/02/2009 11:32:40 umm I get Problem loading Emma Object reference not set to an instance of an object
--- a coupld of restarrs and it seems to be working again -- BIG Lottery, BIG Deal, InEve
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Lecero
Minmatar Black Elite Black Mesa Project
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Posted - 2009.02.26 12:06:00 -
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Originally by: RaTTuS Edited by: RaTTuS on 26/02/2009 11:32:40 umm I get Problem loading Emma Object reference not set to an instance of an object
--- a coupld of restarrs and it seems to be working again
The most recent MS_OS and MSSQL sec patch made some changes to sql2k5 and some versions of ms_os...
not only will you get this error (depending on os) but try to go in and "Auto Add" your Item values and see if you get an error...
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No Profit
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Posted - 2009.02.26 12:42:00 -
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Originally by: CSI Eve ok, a some things from me (loaby):
- i too get the api 100 error for the jorunal update since 2 or 3 days. it updated correctly once yesterday though, but got that error again today
- the nav report works but it takes about 20 minutes until it is processed
- the nav report gives me some strange numbers, e.g. my amount in escrow is way too big
- the autocontractor calculates with some ridiculous wrong numbers, e.g. reprocess value for meta 0 items 100 times higher than it should be. i looked into the items value settings and run the value calc and it again took those numbers as reprocessed value. that causes the autocontractor to show strange values, thus makes it unusable
I'm 99% sure the 100 error is somthing going wrong on CCP's end. I've got a couple of workarounds that I'm trying out but since it's an intermittent problem, it's taking a lot of testing to be able to say with any confidence that I've fixed it.
Does the amount in escrow in the NAV report match the amount in escrow if you look at the active market orders within EMMA or is it different? I suspect you might have a lot of duplicates of the same order and that's causing both the slowness and the incorrect numbers.
The reprocess values of everything calculate fine for me. Check the values of tritanium, pyrite and all the other minerals in 'Settings -> Item values'. There might be one that is unusually high for some reason?
Originally by: RaTTuS Edited by: RaTTuS on 26/02/2009 11:32:40 umm I get Problem loading Emma Object reference not set to an instance of an object
--- a coupld of restarrs and it seems to be working again
Could you send me you exceptionlog.txt ([email protected]) thanks.
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CSI Eve
Caldari atomic comic New Eden Research
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Posted - 2009.02.26 16:07:00 -
[585]
Edited by: CSI Eve on 26/02/2009 16:16:06
Originally by: No Profit
Does the amount in escrow in the NAV report match the amount in escrow if you look at the active market orders within EMMA or is it different?
iŠve checked the sell orders. its different. the amount given by the active sell orders matches what the market window in eve shows but the isk amount emma gives for my sell orders is almost 2 times this number.
the cash in escrow almost matches the active buy orders (in emma), but is completely off what i actually have in escrow
edit: correction....the sum of my active buy orders (amount left in escrow) matches the eve number but the number in the nav report is off 8way too high)
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Aya Sin
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Posted - 2009.02.26 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: No Profit The reprocess values of everything calculate fine for me. Check the values of tritanium, pyrite and all the other minerals in 'Settings -> Item values'. There might be one that is unusually high for some reason?
I had the same issue when I was giving Emma a try. All the fetched prices were a factor of hundred too high. Sure you're processing the decimal separator properly? Some of your source sites might return localized values (which means for 80% or all non english speaking countries: "," instead of a "."). Just a thought.
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Vested Interest
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Posted - 2009.02.26 17:28:00 -
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Edited by: Vested Interest on 26/02/2009 17:33:40
Originally by: CSI Eve stuff about NAV
Same glitch I'm having.
The NAV report Sell Orders total doesn't seem to match anything I can find to add up. It reports the sell orders total as one big number. The actual total value of Remaining Sell orders (Which is what I'd expect to be the value showing for Sell Orders in the NAV) is exactly 50% of the value displayed in the NAV report.
Edit: Summing the "Remaining Value" of my sell orders on one char, this number matches the "Sell Orders Total" displayed in game.
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No Profit
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Posted - 2009.02.26 17:42:00 -
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Thanks for the extra info everyone. I will investigate these problems. Just in the middle of testing the next big features right now so might take a little longer than usual. 
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Aki Shinamura
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Posted - 2009.02.27 02:45:00 -
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Since some time yesterday, I receive the following error when trying to use the reprocessor module. I am able to manually visit eve-central so I don't think it's connection related.
************** Exception Text ************** EveMarketMonitorApp.Common.EMMAEveAPIException: Problem retrieving data from the Eve-central web service ---> System.Net.WebException: The remote server returned an error: (417) Expectation Failed. at System.Net.HttpWebRequest.GetResponse() at EveMarketMonitorApp.AbstractionClasses.EveCentral.GetXml(String url, String parameters) --- End of inner exception stack trace --- at EveMarketMonitorApp.AbstractionClasses.EveCentral.GetXml(String url, String parameters) at EveMarketMonitorApp.AbstractionClasses.EveCentral.GetPrice(Int32 itemID, Int32 regionID, Boolean buyPrice) at EveMarketMonitorApp.DatabaseClasses.ItemsTraded.GetItemValue(Int32 itemID, Int32 regionID, DateTime valueDate, Boolean buyPrice) at EveMarketMonitorApp.DatabaseClasses.ItemsTraded.PriceCache_DataUpdateNeeded(Object myObject, DataUpdateNeededArgs`2 args) at EveMarketMonitorApp.Common.Cache`2.Get(KeyType key) at EveMarketMonitorApp.DatabaseClasses.ItemsTraded.GetItemValue(Int32 itemID, Int32 regionID, DateTime date) at EveMarketMonitorApp.DatabaseClasses.ItemsTraded.GetItemValue(Int32 itemID, Int32 regionID, Boolean nothing) at EveMarketMonitorApp.DatabaseClasses.ReprocessResult.get_UnitSellPrice() at EveMarketMonitorApp.DatabaseClasses.ReprocessJob.get_TotalResultsValue() at EveMarketMonitorApp.DatabaseClasses.ReprocessJob.SetEffectiveBuyPrices() at EveMarketMonitorApp.DatabaseClasses.ReprocessJob.UpdateResults() at EveMarketMonitorApp.DatabaseClasses.Asset.get_ReprocessValue() at EveMarketMonitorApp.GUIElements.Reprocessor.ItemsToReprocessView_CellFormatting(Object sender, DataGridViewCellFormattingEventArgs e) at System.Windows.Forms.DataGridView.OnCellFormatting(DataGridViewCellFormattingEventArgs e) at System.Windows.Forms.DataGridView.OnCellFormatting(Int32 columnIndex, Int32 rowIndex, Object val, Type formattedValueType, DataGridViewCellStyle cellStyle) at System.Windows.Forms.DataGridViewCell.GetFormattedValue(Object value, Int32 rowIndex, DataGridViewCellStyle& cellStyle, TypeConverter valueTypeConverter, TypeConverter formattedValueTypeConverter, DataGridViewDataErrorContexts context) at System.Windows.Forms.DataGridViewCell.GetFormattedValue(Int32 rowIndex, DataGridViewCellStyle& cellStyle, DataGridViewDataErrorContexts context) at System.Windows.Forms.DataGridViewTextBoxCell.GetPreferredSize(Graphics graphics, DataGridViewCellStyle cellStyle, Int32 rowIndex, Size constraintSize) at System.Windows.Forms.DataGridViewCell.GetPreferredWidth(Int32 rowIndex, Int32 height) at System.Windows.Forms.DataGridViewCell.OnCellDataAreaMouseEnterInternal(Int32 rowIndex) at System.Windows.Forms.DataGridViewCell.OnMouseMoveInternal(DataGridViewCellMouseEventArgs e) at System.Windows.Forms.DataGridView.OnCellMouseMove(DataGridViewCellMouseEventArgs e) at System.Windows.Forms.DataGridView.UpdateMouseEnteredCell(HitTestInfo hti, MouseEventArgs e) at System.Windows.Forms.DataGridView.OnMouseMove(MouseEventArgs e) at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseMove(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.DataGridView.WndProc(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)
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No Profit
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Posted - 2009.02.27 08:40:00 -
[590]
Originally by: Aki Shinamura Since some time yesterday, I receive the following error when trying to use the reprocessor module. I am able to manually visit eve-central so I don't think it's connection related.
************** Exception Text ************** EveMarketMonitorApp.Common.EMMAEveAPIException: Problem retrieving data from the Eve-central web service ---> System.Net.WebException: The remote server returned an error: (417) Expectation Failed.
I've been having some trouble with eve-central as well. So have a few others who contacted me. I'm trying to figure out exactly why it's suddenly started happening.
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Ambo
EMMA Test Corp
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Posted - 2009.02.27 10:57:00 -
[591]
Could someone with the reprocessor values bug please check the 'Logging/Eve Central History' folder, any file in there will do. I just want to know if the values use a decimal seperator of '.' or ','.
I assumed it was a '.' for everyone because it's a '.' for me but as Aya Sin pointed out, it could somehow be returning data in a format localised to the machine making the request. --------------------------------------
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Ambo
EMMA Test Corp
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Posted - 2009.02.27 19:17:00 -
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Version 1.3.0.0 BETA Release
This release has two major new features and a few smaller changes and fixes.
I've added some sreenshots of the new item detail screen to the OP. (Didn't add any for the item exchange / auction contracts as there is not a lot to see.)
Major features:
- EMMA can now store data about item exchange and auction contracts as well as courier contracts. The API does not provide this data so it must be entered manually but once entered, the data can be used in item reports, etc. See tutorial for full details.
- There is a new button - 'Item Detail' on the main screen. This shows some new information such as movement on orders, profit for individual sell transactions, etc. Mainly it provides a quick way to view lots of information about a single item or group of items. For full details, see the tutorial.
Minor features / Changes:
- The unacknowledged orders view now has a column for 'date created'.
- The NAV assets value calulcation will no longer use the historical assets total value table. This is simply because it could cause the effects of an incorrectly valued item to persist, even after the the incorrect valuation has been fixed by the user. As a result, NAV reports will take a little longer but should be more accurate.
Bug Fixes:
- Transactions and Jouranl data retrieval has been modified slightly to try and avoid unexplained 'error 100' responses from the API. For detail, see here
- Fixed an error that could occur when adding an item to a contract.
- When calculating the 'cost of units sold', the item report will now take into account the units of the item currently in sell orders.
- The NAV report was getting the total in escrow for all orders, regardless of status. In theory this was not a problem since only an active order should have any cash in escrow. However, there are cases when this might not be the case and dealing with all orders of any state was causing needless extra processing. Now, only active orders will be included.
- Fixed a bug that caused the NAV report to return a total sell orders value that was twice what it should have been.
- Fixed a bug that could cause null reference exceptions when starting up.
- Jump costs when calculating a route are now limited to a maximum of 100. Previously, high values could cause out of memory exceptions.
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Vested Interest
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Posted - 2009.02.27 20:52:00 -
[593]
Originally by: Ambo
[*]There is a new button - 'Item Detail' on the main screen.
Brilliantly implemented and worth every penny! You must drink coffee by the gallon to get this stuff done!
For consideration: If a cache sc(r)aper can be figured out we could have a couple more tabs in here: one that shows locally generated market graphs and details, and another that brings in some of the desired features of the Eve Market Scanner we've touched on. I'll submit a full feature request via sourceforge with the specs and bounty
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CSI Eve
Caldari atomic comic New Eden Research
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Posted - 2009.02.27 22:16:00 -
[594]
great 
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Kei Gravatid
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Posted - 2009.02.28 02:32:00 -
[595]
Originally by: Ambo
Originally by: Kei Gravatid I dl the EMMA 1.0.0.1 from the first page, it updates itself and then I get exception messages which start: Inner Exception: Cannot start service MSSQL$SQLEXPRESS on computer '.'. Stack Trace: at System.ServiceProcess.ServiceController.Start(String[] args) at System.ServiceProcess.ServiceController.Start() at EveMarketMonitorApp.GUIElements.Main.isSQLExpressRunning() Inner Exception: The service cannot be started, either because it is disabled or because it has no enabled devices associated with it
I pulled it out and re-installed it with the same result. Is there something else I need associated with the program?
Looks like a problem with SQL Express, did you use the default instance name when you installed ('SQLEXPRESS') or did you call it somthing else?
Sorry, I just noticed I have Microsoft SQL Server 2008 (from another program I haven't used in a while) on the machine. So EMMA will not work with this on the machine? When I run the setup.exe there are no pop-ups about the SQL server.
Thanks.
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Ambo
EMMA Test Corp
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Posted - 2009.02.28 08:32:00 -
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Is that SQL Server Express 2008 or just bog standard SQL Server 2008?
If it's the express edition then it won't have been installed by EMMA but would have been there already. It's certainly possible that whenever you installed it, you used a different instance name than 'SQLEXPRESS'.
If you're using the standard SQL server then you can get it to work. You need to modify the connection strings in the evemarketmonitorapp.exe.config file. There is one for the EMMA database and one for the eve data database.
Both databases must be imported to your SQL server and then you need to modify the connection strings to point to the appropriate locations.
I'm afraid I can't give you a step-by-step guide because I havn't done it. I know there is at least one person who runs EMMA in this way though. --------------------------------------
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CrazyArsed Monkey
Minmatar Un4seen Development
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Posted - 2009.02.28 20:06:00 -
[597]
i get a problem stating 'there was a problem validating your installation, requested registry access is not allowed' How do i remedy this please?
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Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.03.01 03:17:00 -
[598]
Originally by: Ambo
I'm afraid I can't give you a step-by-step guide because I havn't done it. I know there is at least one person who runs EMMA in this way though.
I run EMMA at work in this manner. I have two PCs that I work from my test bed and my production bed. I run Vmware with a Win2k8 server and SQL2k8 on it that holds all my test database stuff and personal database stuff (including emma). I then run EMMA on my production machine and connect to the virtual instance.
My home setup is somewhat similar in that I have a Win2k3 in my basement with SQL 05 instance on it, and the PC upstairs and my laptop connect to it through the connectors.
Some hurdles you'll have to ensure is that by default TCP is often turned off unless you give specific permissions for either a range, domain, or user to access the server instance through a TCP/IP pipe.
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Mannar Izod
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.03.01 06:44:00 -
[599]
Hi Ambo, thanks for your time in developing this neat sounding tool. Unfourtunaltly I get some errors while running it for the first time. When I tried to use the update button to start it off it gave me an error that said:
Problem copying file 'EveMarketMonitorApp.exe. Access to the path 'C:\ProgramFiles(x86)\EMMA\EveMarketMonitorApp.exe' is denied.
It says that for each component of the update list, i.e. EveMarkeyMonitroApp, AutoUpdater, EveData, tutorial, etc.
Any ideas? Thanks in advance
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Selene D'Celeste
Caldari The D'Celeste Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.03.01 15:09:00 -
[600]
Originally by: RaTTuS Edited by: RaTTuS on 26/02/2009 11:32:40 umm I get Problem loading Emma Object reference not set to an instance of an object
--- a coupld of restarrs and it seems to be working again
I am having this same issue after rebooting my system for the first time in a week or two. Very odd.
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