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Weirda
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Posted - 2004.07.13 15:50:00 -
[31]
 Originally by: Brazero
I agree, Maller is a fine ship but could use more power. But after the last patch I use 5 named Focused Beams and a 100mn ab2 and have no probs doing lvl3 agent missions. But 5 heavy beams would make it alot better. And the lack of drone space is just stupid imo.
Focused beams is where it's at with the Maller. You can get a good armor tank/cap setup that way. Actually crippled Weirda's maller to try to get a bunch of Heavies on there - but with the tracking, it seem like the Focused Mediums give better DOT (and against smaller targets too - which is good for wiping out escorts quickly). Usually have setup with 1xHeavy and 4xFocused mediums - this give you a lot of range/flexibility and the 1 heavy give you a little more 'umph' for the large rat in the pack. 
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Weirda
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Posted - 2004.07.13 15:50:00 -
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Originally by: Brazero
I agree, Maller is a fine ship but could use more power. But after the last patch I use 5 named Focused Beams and a 100mn ab2 and have no probs doing lvl3 agent missions. But 5 heavy beams would make it alot better. And the lack of drone space is just stupid imo.
Focused beams is where it's at with the Maller. You can get a good armor tank/cap setup that way. Actually crippled Weirda's maller to try to get a bunch of Heavies on there - but with the tracking, it seem like the Focused Mediums give better DOT (and against smaller targets too - which is good for wiping out escorts quickly). Usually have setup with 1xHeavy and 4xFocused mediums - this give you a lot of range/flexibility and the 1 heavy give you a little more 'umph' for the large rat in the pack.
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Cruz
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Posted - 2004.07.13 17:04:00 -
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On my maller for agent running and some ratting I use
Hi: 2x Modulated Heavy Pulse, 3x Anode Heavy Pulse, 1x Small SB
Med: 1x 10mn MWD, 2x Cap Recharger
Lo: Med Armor Repairer II, 1x RCU, 4x PDU
Granted I only have engineering III and with engineering IV I could drop the RCU for another PDU, I would really really like to stick in some hardeners in there >.<
I find Focused beams overly weak too, they do very very veyr little damage IMO. The named Heavy Pulse lasers on the other hand scare the crap out of my mates in battleships, I can rip their shields in a few volleys!!
But more PG pleease!!! Mallers should be able to use heavy pulse lasers without all that PG loss!!
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Cruz
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Posted - 2004.07.13 17:04:00 -
[34]
On my maller for agent running and some ratting I use
Hi: 2x Modulated Heavy Pulse, 3x Anode Heavy Pulse, 1x Small SB
Med: 1x 10mn MWD, 2x Cap Recharger
Lo: Med Armor Repairer II, 1x RCU, 4x PDU
Granted I only have engineering III and with engineering IV I could drop the RCU for another PDU, I would really really like to stick in some hardeners in there >.<
I find Focused beams overly weak too, they do very very veyr little damage IMO. The named Heavy Pulse lasers on the other hand scare the crap out of my mates in battleships, I can rip their shields in a few volleys!!
But more PG pleease!!! Mallers should be able to use heavy pulse lasers without all that PG loss!!
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Dirtball
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Posted - 2004.07.13 17:30:00 -
[35]
Originally by: EzTarget II
Come on CCP please give the Maller some loving, I'd like to mine solo in something other than 1.0 space, and make some real isk, I had an Omen and was mining in that while I saved for my maller, and now I'm thinking of forgetting the RP role and starting the long process of training up the skills for a thorax (which is a much better ship for ratting / mining or even mission running :( )
well you can run a medium armor repair and 2 hardeners forever, but I was using XeCl miners so they take a lot less cap then miner 2's, I didn't have to worry about rats hitting me at all.
But yeah, no missiles, no drones, no speed, a maller isn't very defensive because of those 3
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Dirtball
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Posted - 2004.07.13 17:30:00 -
[36]
Originally by: EzTarget II
Come on CCP please give the Maller some loving, I'd like to mine solo in something other than 1.0 space, and make some real isk, I had an Omen and was mining in that while I saved for my maller, and now I'm thinking of forgetting the RP role and starting the long process of training up the skills for a thorax (which is a much better ship for ratting / mining or even mission running :( )
well you can run a medium armor repair and 2 hardeners forever, but I was using XeCl miners so they take a lot less cap then miner 2's, I didn't have to worry about rats hitting me at all.
But yeah, no missiles, no drones, no speed, a maller isn't very defensive because of those 3
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2004.07.13 20:52:00 -
[37]
Here's what the maller needs:
slight boost to powergrid.
Drone bay capable of holding 1-2 heavy drones,
One missle launcher bay.
That would put it more in line with the apoc, which can use drones and missles. Hardcore drone users would still use thoraxes, and Hardcore missle guys would still go for caldari, but you would have a lot more options on a maller with these changes, and you might actually start to see them used in PvP.
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2004.07.13 20:52:00 -
[38]
Here's what the maller needs:
slight boost to powergrid.
Drone bay capable of holding 1-2 heavy drones,
One missle launcher bay.
That would put it more in line with the apoc, which can use drones and missles. Hardcore drone users would still use thoraxes, and Hardcore missle guys would still go for caldari, but you would have a lot more options on a maller with these changes, and you might actually start to see them used in PvP.
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Beseb
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Posted - 2004.07.13 20:56:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Here's what the maller needs:
slight boost to powergrid.
Drone bay capable of holding 1-2 heavy drones,
One missle launcher bay.
That would put it more in line with the apoc, which can use drones and missles. Hardcore drone users would still use thoraxes, and Hardcore missle guys would still go for caldari, but you would have a lot more options on a maller with these changes, and you might actually start to see them used in PvP.
I disagree. I'd like to the Maller to stay true to it's original role - mean gun ship.
Give this ship a bit more grid and like a 10% dmg mod bonus. That'd make it feared right quick.
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Beseb
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Posted - 2004.07.13 20:56:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Here's what the maller needs:
slight boost to powergrid.
Drone bay capable of holding 1-2 heavy drones,
One missle launcher bay.
That would put it more in line with the apoc, which can use drones and missles. Hardcore drone users would still use thoraxes, and Hardcore missle guys would still go for caldari, but you would have a lot more options on a maller with these changes, and you might actually start to see them used in PvP.
I disagree. I'd like to the Maller to stay true to it's original role - mean gun ship.
Give this ship a bit more grid and like a 10% dmg mod bonus. That'd make it feared right quick.
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Eximius
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Posted - 2004.07.13 21:08:00 -
[41]
And an armor bonus. give the Maller and armor bonus and it would be what it is supposed to be.
~Eximius, Reaver Templar
When a man's soul is forfeited, he is said to die. We did not. We were remade as demons of malice for an unworldy purpose. We are empty. Damned, for one cannot look unto the abyss and remain whole. ~ActiveX, 3 days after the Ascension |
Eximius
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Posted - 2004.07.13 21:08:00 -
[42]
And an armor bonus. give the Maller and armor bonus and it would be what it is supposed to be.
~Eximius, Reaver Templar
When a man's soul is forfeited, he is said to die. We did not. We were remade as demons of malice for an unworldy purpose. We are empty. Damned, for one cannot look unto the abyss and remain whole. ~ActiveX, 3 days after the Ascension |
Cruz
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Posted - 2004.07.13 22:40:00 -
[43]
Edited by: Cruz on 13/07/2004 22:42:34
Originally by: Eximius
And an armor bonus. give the Maller and armor bonus and it would be what it is supposed to be.
That would be great! for the secondary bonus to be an armor bonus like +5% armor per level. It would still need a slightly larger PG to tank. But armor is good, maybe ROF/Damage?
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Cruz
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Posted - 2004.07.13 22:40:00 -
[44]
Edited by: Cruz on 13/07/2004 22:42:34
Originally by: Eximius
And an armor bonus. give the Maller and armor bonus and it would be what it is supposed to be.
That would be great! for the secondary bonus to be an armor bonus like +5% armor per level. It would still need a slightly larger PG to tank. But armor is good, maybe ROF/Damage?
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Cadman Weyland
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Posted - 2004.07.13 23:22:00 -
[45]
I gave up on my Maller months ago and as a result binned my attempts to just use Ammarrian ships. It just seemed weak and didnt seem at range to do damage rapidly enough. Trained Gallente and now fly Celestis and Vexors. I just found the Maller unable to handle big spawns. My skills are better and it maybe worth another look now mind u.
Maller needs in my mind at least a lil more power grid and id love to see a single missile slot like the Blood ncps have. Saying that i did get some nice long range 45km approx damage on ships using heavy beams and 250 rails with iron ammo. It just wasnt enough, fast enough to stop me from running once they got too close.
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Cadman Weyland
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Posted - 2004.07.13 23:22:00 -
[46]
I gave up on my Maller months ago and as a result binned my attempts to just use Ammarrian ships. It just seemed weak and didnt seem at range to do damage rapidly enough. Trained Gallente and now fly Celestis and Vexors. I just found the Maller unable to handle big spawns. My skills are better and it maybe worth another look now mind u.
Maller needs in my mind at least a lil more power grid and id love to see a single missile slot like the Blood ncps have. Saying that i did get some nice long range 45km approx damage on ships using heavy beams and 250 rails with iron ammo. It just wasnt enough, fast enough to stop me from running once they got too close.
Director of Empire Ops and Chief Carebear |
Kalast Raven
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Posted - 2004.07.14 00:31:00 -
[47]
Give Maller 1 more low slot, 25 CPU, and 50 Grid.
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K. Raven
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Kalast Raven
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Posted - 2004.07.14 00:31:00 -
[48]
Give Maller 1 more low slot, 25 CPU, and 50 Grid.
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K. Raven
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Eximius
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Posted - 2004.07.14 07:59:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Cruz
Edited by: Cruz on 13/07/2004 22:42:34
Originally by: Eximius
And an armor bonus. give the Maller and armor bonus and it would be what it is supposed to be.
That would be great! for the secondary bonus to be an armor bonus like +5% armor per level. It would still need a slightly larger PG to tank. But armor is good, maybe ROF/Damage?
5% Armor per lvl would be a good secondary bonus for the Maller. It still should either get more grid or the medium laser turrets should be made less grid hungry.
The Arbitrator is fine except for its horrible speed. If it had eithe 40 more m/s base, or a 6th low slot it would be a much more balanced ship.
The Omen is stronger in nearly every category than the Arbitrator (even speed  ). All it really needs is a bit more grid.
The Augoror is...cute.
~Eximius, Reaver Templar
When a man's soul is forfeited, he is said to die. We did not. We were remade as demons of malice for an unworldy purpose. We are empty. Damned, for one cannot look unto the abyss and remain whole. ~ActiveX, 3 days after the Ascension |
Eximius
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Posted - 2004.07.14 07:59:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Cruz
Edited by: Cruz on 13/07/2004 22:42:34
Originally by: Eximius
And an armor bonus. give the Maller and armor bonus and it would be what it is supposed to be.
That would be great! for the secondary bonus to be an armor bonus like +5% armor per level. It would still need a slightly larger PG to tank. But armor is good, maybe ROF/Damage?
5% Armor per lvl would be a good secondary bonus for the Maller. It still should either get more grid or the medium laser turrets should be made less grid hungry.
The Arbitrator is fine except for its horrible speed. If it had eithe 40 more m/s base, or a 6th low slot it would be a much more balanced ship.
The Omen is stronger in nearly every category than the Arbitrator (even speed ). All it really needs is a bit more grid.
The Augoror is...cute.
~Eximius, Reaver Templar
When a man's soul is forfeited, he is said to die. We did not. We were remade as demons of malice for an unworldy purpose. We are empty. Damned, for one cannot look unto the abyss and remain whole. ~ActiveX, 3 days after the Ascension |
Perry
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Posted - 2004.07.14 09:26:00 -
[51]
Agreed,
Maller needs Grid/Armor
Omen needs Grid
Arbitrator needs Grid/Speed
Auguror needs slightly more Grid and Capacitor
The Auguror is inferior to the Exequror (galente lvl) in every aspect exept hitpoints.
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Perry
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Posted - 2004.07.14 09:26:00 -
[52]
Agreed,
Maller needs Grid/Armor
Omen needs Grid
Arbitrator needs Grid/Speed
Auguror needs slightly more Grid and Capacitor
The Auguror is inferior to the Exequror (galente lvl) in every aspect exept hitpoints.
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Blood Redd
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Posted - 2004.07.14 09:54:00 -
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Mallers are fine as they are IMHO. You just need a good set up like mine.
High:
5 Miner 2
Med:
1 Cap Recharger
2 100nm AB
Low:
5 co-pro 1
1 PDU
You can fit this set up with engineering 4
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Blood Redd
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Posted - 2004.07.14 09:54:00 -
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Mallers are fine as they are IMHO. You just need a good set up like mine.
High:
5 Miner 2
Med:
1 Cap Recharger
2 100nm AB
Low:
5 co-pro 1
1 PDU
You can fit this set up with engineering 4
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Cruz
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Posted - 2004.07.14 14:19:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Blood Redd
Mallers are fine as they are IMHO. You just need a good set up like mine.
High:
5 Miner 2
Med:
1 Cap Recharger
2 100nm AB
Low:
5 co-pro 1
1 PDU
You can fit this set up with engineering 4
nice... very nice...
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Cruz
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Posted - 2004.07.14 14:19:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Blood Redd
Mallers are fine as they are IMHO. You just need a good set up like mine.
High:
5 Miner 2
Med:
1 Cap Recharger
2 100nm AB
Low:
5 co-pro 1
1 PDU
You can fit this set up with engineering 4
nice... very nice...
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JP Beauregard
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Posted - 2004.07.14 14:28:00 -
[57]
There is only one thing a Maller needs: One skilled pilot.
Supply side issues here are hurting the ship very badly.
JP Beauregard
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JP Beauregard
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Posted - 2004.07.14 14:28:00 -
[58]
There is only one thing a Maller needs: One skilled pilot.
Supply side issues here are hurting the ship very badly.
JP Beauregard
=== The Pilkington Guides to EVE === |
Cruz
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Posted - 2004.07.14 14:32:00 -
[59]
Originally by: JP Beauregard
There is only one thing a Maller needs: One skilled pilot.
Supply side issues here are hurting the ship very badly.
Even with good skills you still need two tech II RCUs to reasonably fit a maller. And dual medium pulse weapons suck hard... very very hard...
And lets not forget two tech II RCUs cost around 12mil!!! 
and with engineering V you get about 1404PG from it. Thats all fine and dandy, but you need energy grid upgrades V too which takes like 18days to train and engineering V which everyone has.
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Cruz
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Posted - 2004.07.14 14:32:00 -
[60]
Originally by: JP Beauregard
There is only one thing a Maller needs: One skilled pilot.
Supply side issues here are hurting the ship very badly.
Even with good skills you still need two tech II RCUs to reasonably fit a maller. And dual medium pulse weapons suck hard... very very hard...
And lets not forget two tech II RCUs cost around 12mil!!!
and with engineering V you get about 1404PG from it. Thats all fine and dandy, but you need energy grid upgrades V too which takes like 18days to train and engineering V which everyone has.
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