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Sinist	Posted - 2004.07.13 00:27:00 - [61] I think Shiva is a good start but also the ability to track items that we amrk as important should become a feature. like marking your blueprints and minerals as trackable and you can view the logs about them (like who took them, how much, when, etc). This will end the problems. I still think it should be possible for people to rob you if they have access (bc thats your own fault), but i also think you should know who it was so you can wage war.
Sinist	Posted - 2004.07.13 00:27:00 - [62] I think Shiva is a good start but also the ability to track items that we amrk as important should become a feature. like marking your blueprints and minerals as trackable and you can view the logs about them (like who took them, how much, when, etc). This will end the problems. I still think it should be possible for people to rob you if they have access (bc thats your own fault), but i also think you should know who it was so you can wage war.
fredolic	Posted - 2004.07.13 02:19:00 - [63] Stop moaning .... it was FUN until it happened to you ! Grow up, do your own investigations and play the game!
fredolic	Posted - 2004.07.13 02:19:00 - [64] Stop moaning .... it was FUN until it happened to you ! Grow up, do your own investigations and play the game!
Mursilis	Posted - 2004.07.13 03:59:00 - [65] OMG, I never realized how much EV whines!! The blame lies with EV leadership because they did not keep those blueprints secure! For the record, I agree with Viceroy and I would like to add that: EV! Grow the *k up you bunch of babies, it is your own fault and yeah... I would also like to add that I take a personal enjoyment in knowing that you got ripped off! I am so happy I could *t! Not 1 Not 2 Not 3 But 4...Yes 4 BS originals stolen! LMAO...LOSERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mursilis	Posted - 2004.07.13 03:59:00 - [66] OMG, I never realized how much EV whines!! The blame lies with EV leadership because they did not keep those blueprints secure! For the record, I agree with Viceroy and I would like to add that: EV! Grow the *k up you bunch of babies, it is your own fault and yeah... I would also like to add that I take a personal enjoyment in knowing that you got ripped off! I am so happy I could *t! Not 1 Not 2 Not 3 But 4...Yes 4 BS originals stolen! LMAO...LOSERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Van Halen	Posted - 2004.07.13 04:10:00 - [67] this is so stupid....corp theft is good the way it is, y should u be able to track ur stuff unless ccp makes tracking devices to put on ur items i mean wtf??? deal with it u will get over it, that y in real life job applications look at their past jobs and stuff like that. theres no one u can trust, u just cant trust anyone completely no matter how good someone is they can turn around and **** everything up. theres nothing u can do cept whine to ccp i agree with viceroy on this, stupidest thing i've ever heard. 2004.09.10 01:59:13 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Heavy Neutron Blaster I perfectly strikes Ater Draconis [MYT], wrecking for 361.2 damage.
Van Halen	Posted - 2004.07.13 04:10:00 - [68] this is so stupid....corp theft is good the way it is, y should u be able to track ur stuff unless ccp makes tracking devices to put on ur items i mean wtf??? deal with it u will get over it, that y in real life job applications look at their past jobs and stuff like that. theres no one u can trust, u just cant trust anyone completely no matter how good someone is they can turn around and **** everything up. theres nothing u can do cept whine to ccp i agree with viceroy on this, stupidest thing i've ever heard. 2004.09.10 01:59:13 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Heavy Neutron Blaster I perfectly strikes Ater Draconis [MYT], wrecking for 361.2 damage.
Guilbert	Posted - 2004.07.13 04:15:00 - [69] well i dont find it that bad to loose items, but what in my eyes make corp theft inacceptable is that anyone in the corp can be accused. by this the action can and probably did already destroy several friendship between corp mates wich even went into real life. but since its getting fixed in shiva i dont care that much. but saying its a feature bs. there cant be any feature leaving a big question mark who exploited a whole corp and the trust real life ppl give eachother. its nothing else than harrasement. Mess with the best.. ..and die like the rest
Guilbert	Posted - 2004.07.13 04:15:00 - [70] well i dont find it that bad to loose items, but what in my eyes make corp theft inacceptable is that anyone in the corp can be accused. by this the action can and probably did already destroy several friendship between corp mates wich even went into real life. but since its getting fixed in shiva i dont care that much. but saying its a feature bs. there cant be any feature leaving a big question mark who exploited a whole corp and the trust real life ppl give eachother. its nothing else than harrasement. Mess with the best.. ..and die like the rest
SOL0	Posted - 2004.07.13 04:23:00 - [71] Originally by: Tamish Corp theft is the worst element of Eve and personally I don't want it to be accepted by CCP or the community. There are a number of options CCP could implement to stop corp theft or at the very least name and shame who was responsible. If you agree CCP should change this policy please reply to this thread, we are the customers and the customers are always right. It's all your fault, so shut up. "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be."
SOL0	Posted - 2004.07.13 04:23:00 - [72] Originally by: Tamish Corp theft is the worst element of Eve and personally I don't want it to be accepted by CCP or the community. There are a number of options CCP could implement to stop corp theft or at the very least name and shame who was responsible. If you agree CCP should change this policy please reply to this thread, we are the customers and the customers are always right. It's all your fault, so shut up. "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be."
Monclair	Posted - 2004.07.13 04:51:00 - [73] Edited by: Monclair on 13/07/2004 04:52:11 Originally by: SOL0 It's all your fault, so shut up. I will remember that next time you are in my crosshairs.
Monclair	Posted - 2004.07.13 04:51:00 - [74] Edited by: Monclair on 13/07/2004 04:52:11 Originally by: SOL0 It's all your fault, so shut up. I will remember that next time you are in my crosshairs.
Talitha	Posted - 2004.07.13 05:26:00 - [75] I agree that CCP needs to help with corp theif for all of EVE. Talitha, CEO of Everlasting Vendetta
Talitha	Posted - 2004.07.13 05:26:00 - [76] I agree that CCP needs to help with corp theif for all of EVE. Talitha, CEO of Everlasting Vendetta
Adriana	Posted - 2004.07.13 05:51:00 - [77] Step one, grab all the really nice stuff out of corp hanger. step two place it all in the hanger of the person you want to see get blamed. step three, sit back and laugh... Now do you people see why some way to audit is needed IMMEDIATLY? Right now it's not just about the scum known as corp thieves. It's about being able to grief using corp assets. So lets get on the ball and roll this stuff out please. Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake. -Napoleon Bonaparte
Adriana	Posted - 2004.07.13 05:51:00 - [78] Step one, grab all the really nice stuff out of corp hanger. step two place it all in the hanger of the person you want to see get blamed. step three, sit back and laugh... Now do you people see why some way to audit is needed IMMEDIATLY? Right now it's not just about the scum known as corp thieves. It's about being able to grief using corp assets. So lets get on the ball and roll this stuff out please. Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake. -Napoleon Bonaparte
Morkalum Takor	Posted - 2004.07.13 06:22:00 - [79] Originally by: Viceroy Edited by: Viceroy on 12/07/2004 21:12:30 I do NOT agree. Where was this petition when other small corps were being robbed? It didnt exist. You want the game policies to be altered for your own interest. Thats sad. Vic has a point, amazingly from him. Some corporations told corp theft complainers, "Your loss"; "You newb!"; "Haha, you gullible prat!"; " when this happened earlier on in the game. And the overall community back then decided to turn their heads away because it did not directly effect them. Now corporations are meeting their match. What was once thought a secure-trusted-among-players pvp corporation is now showing that all is not so safe and friendly. Security breaches can happen to ANYONE. Welcome to the Corporate World of Espionage where theres more to PVP than shooting a missile or cannon. Its posted in the FAQ's of its legality and EVE's welcoming it. Its been happening all over EVE, not always publicly said. Corporations deal with their losses clandestinely and move on, hopefully more wiser with their actions and freely handed-out trust. I am AGAINST this petition that requests change to CCP rules that change the stealth of Corp Theft that go beyond what will be done in SHIVA. Bite your lip and learn to handle your loss like many before you have. "There's more than one side to a story..."-Reporter for the InterCorp Courier Enterprises
Morkalum Takor	Posted - 2004.07.13 06:22:00 - [80] Originally by: Viceroy Edited by: Viceroy on 12/07/2004 21:12:30 I do NOT agree. Where was this petition when other small corps were being robbed? It didnt exist. You want the game policies to be altered for your own interest. Thats sad. Vic has a point, amazingly from him. Some corporations told corp theft complainers, "Your loss"; "You newb!"; "Haha, you gullible prat!"; " when this happened earlier on in the game. And the overall community back then decided to turn their heads away because it did not directly effect them. Now corporations are meeting their match. What was once thought a secure-trusted-among-players pvp corporation is now showing that all is not so safe and friendly. Security breaches can happen to ANYONE. Welcome to the Corporate World of Espionage where theres more to PVP than shooting a missile or cannon. Its posted in the FAQ's of its legality and EVE's welcoming it. Its been happening all over EVE, not always publicly said. Corporations deal with their losses clandestinely and move on, hopefully more wiser with their actions and freely handed-out trust. I am AGAINST this petition that requests change to CCP rules that change the stealth of Corp Theft that go beyond what will be done in SHIVA. Bite your lip and learn to handle your loss like many before you have. "There's more than one side to a story..."-Reporter for the InterCorp Courier Enterprises
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2004.07.13 06:26:00 - [81] Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 13/07/2004 06:43:38 Originally by: SOL0 Originally by: Tamish Corp theft is the worst element of Eve and personally I don't want it to be accepted by CCP or the community. There are a number of options CCP could implement to stop corp theft or at the very least name and shame who was responsible. If you agree CCP should change this policy please reply to this thread, we are the customers and the customers are always right. It's all your fault, so shut up. We're the accused not the ones who lost the bp's so how can it be our fault? Our frustration is actually greater than those who lost the bpo's because they can get their bp's back; what about our rep? LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2004.07.13 06:26:00 - [82] Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 13/07/2004 06:43:38 Originally by: SOL0 Originally by: Tamish Corp theft is the worst element of Eve and personally I don't want it to be accepted by CCP or the community. There are a number of options CCP could implement to stop corp theft or at the very least name and shame who was responsible. If you agree CCP should change this policy please reply to this thread, we are the customers and the customers are always right. It's all your fault, so shut up. We're the accused not the ones who lost the bp's so how can it be our fault? Our frustration is actually greater than those who lost the bpo's because they can get their bp's back; what about our rep? LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2004.07.13 07:21:00 - [83] Corp theft is certainly lame, but as far as I am concerned part of the game. It's just these traps and hindrances which make the game unforgiving, and as such very much enjoyable. I'll not go into the discussion on how to secure against corp theft cause it leads nowhere. The one thing CCP should adress imo is the ultimate destination of the stolen items. Earning sick amounts of real life cash thru corp theft is what offends my sense of justice, not the theft itself. So in short: shame on corpthieves, death to ebayers ! _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2004.07.13 07:21:00 - [84] Corp theft is certainly lame, but as far as I am concerned part of the game. It's just these traps and hindrances which make the game unforgiving, and as such very much enjoyable. I'll not go into the discussion on how to secure against corp theft cause it leads nowhere. The one thing CCP should adress imo is the ultimate destination of the stolen items. Earning sick amounts of real life cash thru corp theft is what offends my sense of justice, not the theft itself. So in short: shame on corpthieves, death to ebayers ! _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.
Gaijin Lanis	Posted - 2004.07.13 07:34:00 - [85] Edited by: Gaijin Lanis on 13/07/2004 07:42:22 Originally by: Joshua Calvert We're the accused not the ones who lost the bp's so how can it be our fault? Our frustration is actually greater than those who lost the bpo's because they can get their bp's back; what about our rep? If the accusation is baseless, ignore it. Anything else is admitting guilt. You've screwed yourself by even responding. So yes, it is your fault. This entire thread is also crap, for reasons that have been stated far better than I can ever hope to. One point hasn't been fielded yet... Even after shiva, when there are tools to trace corp theft, There will still be ways to get away scott free. CCP has neither the time or the money to waste implemnting security measures to protect people from their own stupidity.
Gaijin Lanis	Posted - 2004.07.13 07:34:00 - [86] Edited by: Gaijin Lanis on 13/07/2004 07:42:22 Originally by: Joshua Calvert We're the accused not the ones who lost the bp's so how can it be our fault? Our frustration is actually greater than those who lost the bpo's because they can get their bp's back; what about our rep? If the accusation is baseless, ignore it. Anything else is admitting guilt. You've screwed yourself by even responding. So yes, it is your fault. This entire thread is also crap, for reasons that have been stated far better than I can ever hope to. One point hasn't been fielded yet... Even after shiva, when there are tools to trace corp theft, There will still be ways to get away scott free. CCP has neither the time or the money to waste implemnting security measures to protect people from their own stupidity.
illuminati	Posted - 2004.07.13 07:35:00 - [87] I agree that corptheft should still be in game. The problem is every measure should have a countermeasure! How do I loose weight? Don't gain it in the first place! I'm sorry, that is not a countermeasure, it is just a "promeasure". To promote tactics, every tactic should have a countertactic, YEAY \o/ Corptheft should be viable but so should also some way of getting stuff back or retaliating be! Some sort of criminal flag or re-stealing if the hot stuff is placed in same hangar too long, I don't know but something!
illuminati	Posted - 2004.07.13 07:35:00 - [88] I agree that corptheft should still be in game. The problem is every measure should have a countermeasure! How do I loose weight? Don't gain it in the first place! I'm sorry, that is not a countermeasure, it is just a "promeasure". To promote tactics, every tactic should have a countertactic, YEAY \o/ Corptheft should be viable but so should also some way of getting stuff back or retaliating be! Some sort of criminal flag or re-stealing if the hot stuff is placed in same hangar too long, I don't know but something!
Broc Vallion	Posted - 2004.07.13 07:48:00 - [89] Criminal flagging(based on level of thieft).....or if thats not to your tastes, criminal flogging mahahhahha!
Broc Vallion	Posted - 2004.07.13 07:48:00 - [90] Criminal flagging(based on level of thieft).....or if thats not to your tastes, criminal flogging mahahhahha!

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