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max scrotes
Gallente Aurora Security Sc0rched Earth
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Posted - 2008.12.04 16:42:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral Zulema Well if CCP intended for this ship to be a tourney prize only then take it off my ships I can fly list so I'll not want one.
you can fly the ship.....it will just cost you 20 bil. or more to do so 
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Captator
Universal Securities Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2008.12.04 16:46:00 -
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Originally by: Kendon Rid**** TBH ccp need to make more unique ships, ofc every one wants one but they can only do as much as they want/are able to to get one. So there will alyways be those going the extra mile for an extra bit, state issues and navy issues arnt so similer that another special version inbetween costing 10x + the cost of current navy ships, i think for special people doing ALOT should be able to get somthing better than a 300m navy version like any other miner with a week to spare can get 
More unique and varied ships you say.... sounds like t3 to me 
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The Djego
Minmatar merovinger inc
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Posted - 2008.12.04 16:48:00 -
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Edited by: The Djego on 04/12/2008 16:48:55
Originally by: max scrotes
Originally by: Admiral Zulema Well if CCP intended for this ship to be a tourney prize only then take it off my ships I can fly list so I'll not want one.
you can fly the ship.....it will just cost you 20 bil. or more to do so 
The price Tag on the Tribal Pest and State Issue Raven was quite a bit higher(about 80 B I think) also there where multiple Ships while the Federal Issue Mega is uniqe, and Im preaty shure the holde will never sell it as it is a great pice of his Item Collection. ---- Nerf Tank - Boost Gank!
Originally by: Amantus Real men don't need to get into blaster range.
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The Djego
Minmatar merovinger inc
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Posted - 2008.12.04 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral Zulema
Originally by: maralt
Originally by: Admiral Zulema
Originally by: maralt I doubt they would be used for anything other than mission running, but i have no problem with them being included as im a pure pvpers and would like the chance to find and kill one.
If there were more than one in game you could probably get that chance. But my guess is it would take a gang to take her down.
Just a couple of nuets would do it tbh, i beat one that was pure faction fitted in my t2 domi on sissi.....
Killmail or it didnt happen
Search for a Vid from NightmareX it contains a fight of a pimped Federal Mega(given out on Sissi as a reward for testing) vs a pimped Nightmare and pimped Golem. The Federal Mega didnŠt even come close to get both down and run out of cap charges in both fights(what is not suprizing since pimped STs are far more powerfull than pimped ATs). ---- Nerf Tank - Boost Gank!
Originally by: Amantus Real men don't need to get into blaster range.
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Loc Maythan
Gallente AlfaCorp
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Posted - 2008.12.04 17:23:00 -
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I support the OP, and think that CCP should get right on this ... as soon as they have introduced a Dominix Navy Issue, that is ;-)
/me drools at the thought
Loc.
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Daveion Steel
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Posted - 2008.12.04 17:43:00 -
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Originally by: Loc Maythan I support the OP, and think that CCP should get right on this ... as soon as they have introduced a Dominix Navy Issue, that is ;-)
/me drools at the thought
Loc.
I also drool at the thought of a navy issue Domi, damn now I have a trouser tent..
D...
Pass that Ammerfore mate, Whats an ammerfore, its for banging in nails you bloody ****fa. Whats a ****fa? Omfg
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NightmareX
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.12.04 19:00:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 04/12/2008 19:01:34
Originally by: The Djego Edited by: The Djego on 04/12/2008 17:04:34 Here is a small vid from a Fed Mega on Sissi:
Sisitest.mkv
Yeah, i had posted that earlier in the topic .
But that's because it's me that have made the movie.
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The Djego
Minmatar merovinger inc
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Posted - 2008.12.04 19:01:00 -
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Originally by: NightmareX
Originally by: The Djego Edited by: The Djego on 04/12/2008 17:04:34 Here is a small vid from a Fed Mega on Sissi:
Sisitest.mkv
Yeah, i had posted that earlier in the topic .
ups my bad  ---- Nerf Tank - Boost Gank!
Originally by: Amantus Real men don't need to get into blaster range.
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NightmareX
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.12.04 19:02:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 04/12/2008 19:02:51
Originally by: The Djego
Originally by: NightmareX
Originally by: The Djego Edited by: The Djego on 04/12/2008 17:04:34 Here is a small vid from a Fed Mega on Sissi:
Sisitest.mkv
Yeah, i had posted that earlier in the topic .
ups my bad 
No worry, it's just good to get a bump on my movie, so more peoples can see it .
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Reiisha
Splint Eye Probabilities Inc. Dawn of Transcendence
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Posted - 2008.12.04 22:30:00 -
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There were 5 Imperial Apocalypses. 4 were given out at the original Amarr tournament in 2003, 1 was given around a year(?) later in a lottery. 4 of them were destroyed, only 1 is left, but it's not clear who has it.
There was only 1 Fedathron ever given out, and Entity has that one. And no, he's not going to sell, even you'd pay him several trillion bucks IRL.
The state ravens and tribal tempests were given out, 4 of each, at the 3rd(?) alliance tourney. IIRC they're all still in the game, and bar the ones that Entity has (1 of each), i think you might be able to buy them for the right price. Say, about half the ISK currently in the game :P
There's a couple of other unique ships given out (linky), but they're ridiculously hard to find, and will be expensive like hell if you manage to find one.
CCP gave those ships out on unique events, such as the Amarr succession tournament (which gave us the impocs, impageddons, and gold and silver magnates), and other such stuff. They're unique for a reason, to keep them special. Just maybe CCP might give out another one, some day, but they will never be available to the "general public".
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Laughlyn Vaughns
Gallente Full Retard Inc. space weaponry and trade
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Posted - 2008.12.04 22:33:00 -
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there was a comment made by CCP not long ago that via faction warfare there would be great rewards. Its worth pointing out that the Militia's are named in the same line as the 'unique' ships
State Protectorate - State Issue raven Imperial Crusade - Imperial Apoc/Geddon Federate Defence - Federate Megathron Tribal Liberation - Tribal Issue Tempest
Maybe the "Great Reward" is for when a pilot reaches one of the higest ranks in faction warfare?
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Tozmeister
Caldari Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2008.12.04 22:45:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral Zulema Well if CCP intended for this ship to be a tourney prize only then take it off my ships I can fly list so I'll not want one.
It's like a small child that is being lead around the supermarket. As soon as mummy is taking him down the sweety isle he demands and when he gets none, throws himself on the floor screaming and crying.
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Morgan La'Chance
Caldari Dynamic Reallocation and Logistics
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Posted - 2008.12.04 23:38:00 -
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CCP has gone on the record saying that these ships will not be available as alliance tournament prizes again.
I see no harm in making them available to the public, except the harm it would do to someone's delicate sensibilities and sense of elite pvpness due to past accomplishments. CCP does not need to pander to elitism, that era is supposed to be over.
Make them available, somehow.
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Mioelnir
Minmatar Meltd0wn The Black Isle
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Posted - 2008.12.05 00:06:00 -
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Originally by: Morgan La'Chance CCP has gone on the record saying that these ships will not be available as alliance tournament prizes again.
I see no harm in making them available to the public, except the harm it would do to someone's delicate sensibilities and sense of elite pvpness due to past accomplishments. CCP does not need to pander to elitism, that era is supposed to be over.
Make them available, somehow.
The problem is, they have stats designed with "only 4 ships given out as prizes" in mind. Not general availability.
If they ever were to be released via LP stores, which Greyscale once proposed and got bodychecked for it, they would have to be toned down a bit.
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Don J
Doom Guard
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Posted - 2008.12.05 00:13:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral Zulema Well if CCP intended for this ship to be a tourney prize only then take it off my ships I can fly list so I'll not want one.
For crying out loud guys can no-one see this is a troll?
Humouring the op for a moment (and counter-intuitive to my own comment above), you understand the fact that the unattainable holy-grail-ness of these ultra rare ships is exactly what creates the mythos and why you want one so badly right?
If it were attainable it would be as dull and boring as the next ship.
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Admiral Zulema
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Posted - 2008.12.06 05:36:00 -
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To Don J:
Maybe I'm too new at the forums to understand what you are trying to say, but if it is something ugly then "your momma."
To Morgan:
Thanks for the support, I also dont see the harm in having these ships available.
To Tozmeister:
I'm not throwing a fit, I simple ask CCP if they would make these ships available to the eve public, and I further stated that if this was not going to happen then they should remove that ship from my available to fly list, because I cant, its not available.
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HankMurphy
Minmatar Pelennor Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.12.06 06:05:00 -
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part of me says, no. never.
the other part of me says.... we have (or will) reach(ed) a point where the epic history of eve will not be forgotten, but also that the inclusion of the old and super rare ships to the general populace will not tarnish their memories.
remember, in '03/'04 there was a fraction of the players there are now. couple that with: -fact that ccp has not only reduced the release of ultra rare ships to the game in the years following -ccp has all but gotten rid of events that actually include players (bar the tournies)
i think the game itself has taken on a much more generic feel since the days of past (that could just be because i've been around for years). Yeah, it was *special* to have these events and the history, but also don't forget taht CCP never intended these items to be worth 50 gazillion isk. The chance of your average joe of ever being able to obtain any ultra rare ship is incredibly slim to nil.
I think if ccp isn't going to both increase the types of ultra rare ships out there and bring back aurora and other storyline events (not what we saw w/ QR, where you just read about the stuff during downtime) to the point an average joe might have a shot in the dark at obtaining something special themselves they need to make these items available through a grind.
(i'd much prefer the restoral of game/storyline events, it made a HUGE difference in how a player viewed the game "hey, were you there for xxxxx". Sadly, CCP has taken on other priorities) ------------------------------ everybody be cool this is a threadjack! just lay face down on the ground and no one will get hurt! |

Schalac
Caldari Apocalypse Reign
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Posted - 2008.12.06 06:53:00 -
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They should make it so that you need +10 standing with the faction, +10 all corps belonging to that faction and have earned the highest honor in Faction Warfare. Then as a special gift for your loyalty you get a ship. I would go for that.
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EFT Warrior
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Posted - 2008.12.06 07:39:00 -
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Too bad there's no ships similar to the tourney ships in the game anywhere.
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Vanessa Vasquez
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.06 09:58:00 -
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Well, the EVE database is srewed in many areas. Having only 1 - 3 of a type in a MMO is just ridiculous, nothing more.
If CCP would listen, like they allways say they do, they would make those ships availiable. It would be easy. You know cosmos? There are agents, you can only access once. For some, you need 9.9 faction standing to get a mission offered, and those hand out Navy ship bpcs. Once in a characters lifetime!
You heard of factional warefare? Why not give those, who served the state well and honorably, the opportunity to get such a state 1 run bpc once they hit a certain standing towards the militia? Couldn't be farmed, would fit perfectly in a RP way (work for the state, get a unique state ship) and would therefore bring more ppl to sign up for FW.
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Hurtado Soneka
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.12.08 10:19:00 -
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I support the OP in this endeavor, though these battleships should be awarded for FW effort, ie xxx amount of militia LP and the top rank.
FW needs major boosting, EVE needs a whole load more ships and the battleships in question need to be brought into public circulation.
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. The Firm.
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Posted - 2008.12.08 10:42:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral Zulema
Originally by: Sokratesz
Originally by: Admiral Zulema
Originally by: Sokratesz They should add the fedathron/tribal pest/state raven/impoc to the LP store for ten million LP 
Why so much?
I agree it should be expensive but no more than a cap.
Have you checked their abilities? They're a mission runners bloody wet dream and will be very very competent for PVP. No reason to make them worth anything *less* than 10bil isk minimum.
10B isk maybe ok to start but 10 milion LP is a little much.
High-sec LP are generally worth less than 1k ISK each.
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Gabriel Karade
Nulli-Secundus
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Posted - 2008.12.08 10:45:00 -
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Originally by: Hurtado Soneka I support the OP in this endeavor, though these battleships should be awarded for FW effort, ie xxx amount of militia LP and the top rank.
FW needs major boosting, EVE needs a whole load more ships and the battleships in question need to be brought into public circulation.
Why? The description of the ship[Federate issue Megathron] itself states this is a 'unique vessel commissioned by the President Foiritan yadda yadda...'
Keep it unique.
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Keitaro Baka
Babylon Scientific and Industrial Enterprises Babylon Project
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Posted - 2008.12.08 10:53:00 -
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What CCP should do is make feature so the ts can remove the ship from his list in stead of creating utterly un-eve threads like this one.
Let's go on a bit about why it shouldn't happen: - history: these ships have it and deserve it, - wtfpwnoverpowered: these ships have the potential to be it, deservedly so because there is a truly limited amount of them in game, - collectors value/brave man fighting value: unique ships are unique. If you decide to fight in one it should be truly epic and there should be songs and tales about your greatness (in defeat or victory). If anyone can get it, it can be farmed and then it won't be kewl to die in one no more, it will just be rich boy's toys (of which the present ones should be enough).
(About the overpowered statement: ships are balanced on the greater plain of eve. A raven has 6 launcher points, a mega has 7 low slots, etc. The faction ships add a little bit to that and can be fit very effectively, but they are so accessible and the boost is rather minimal that calling those ships OP is debatable. The unique ships on the other hand are about the best you can get from the hull, which is a lot more than stock t1, hence OP)
In short: no In long: hell no, learn eve history
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Durzel
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.12.08 11:02:00 -
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Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 04/12/2008 19:02:51
Originally by: The Djego
Originally by: NightmareX
Originally by: The Djego Edited by: The Djego on 04/12/2008 17:04:34 Here is a small vid from a Fed Mega on Sissi:
Sisitest.mkv
Yeah, i had posted that earlier in the topic .
ups my bad 
No worry, it's just good to get a bump on my movie, so more peoples can see it .
No disrespect intended but is there a reason that in a 60 second video 40 seconds are spent grandstanding with logos with the remaining time spent with a pretty lacklustre camera pan around the ship? Would be nice to see a video of the ship with some substance to it.
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MuffinsRevenger
EmpiresMod
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Posted - 2008.12.08 11:08:00 -
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The fed/tribal/imperial/state ships would actually work out pretty well as a "i reached 9.9 reward without skills for your faction" reward, like the 2 run navy bpc we get these days (from cosmos)
Takes a rediculus amount of work to reach that, and giving whoevers insane enough to do so a actuall worthwhile reward would be sort of be nice, apart from limiting the suply greatly |

Durzel
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.12.08 11:22:00 -
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Edited by: Durzel on 08/12/2008 11:23:09 I don't understand the "entitlement" ethos here - it's a unique ship given out during a unique event to a unique individual who proved themselves worthy of it at the time. The description of the ship even state that it is a unique ship. Unique. One of a kind.
Even if any of these crazy "how about you can get one with 10 bajillion LP" ideas got put into practice the ship would be so valuable even then as to render it useless in any practical capacity. Anyone flying one would be the single biggest target in the game, and battleships - even the unique ones - aren't that hard to suicide.
The people that want these ships might as well just assume they don't exist.
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HankMurphy
Minmatar Pelennor Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.12.08 11:46:00 -
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Edited by: HankMurphy on 08/12/2008 11:47:33 I dont think it's a question of entitlement? I think its a matter of no just having a chance (albeit a slim one) of owning it through some means. Another event? Grind? Whatever... but to actually see these ships used in the game.
I don't deny they are unique and should be. But that also raises an interesting question (and one that may even be part of a language barrier)... are they unique in the sense that there should be only ONE (if thats the case, why was there more than one Silver Magnate? More than one IMP Apoc?). Or do they mean unique as in 'set apart from the rest'. Unique in comparison to the standard model.
I don't buy the 'eve history' line. If any more were given in another event or if tribal pest could be gotten in an LP store, that doesn't tarnish Eve's history. It will still and always be part of the story.
I've been here as long or longer than most of you I bet. They have great history, but no one ever said they should be so rare only one will exist in some guys hangar collecting dust... or so rare the only hopes you have of owning one is 100billion isk and a handjob  ---------- Seasons Greetings and have a Happy Alvis Time |

Crellion
Art of War Exalted.
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Posted - 2008.12.08 12:11:00 -
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Originally by: HankMurphy Edited by: HankMurphy on 08/12/2008 12:00:01 I dont think it's a question of entitlement? I think its a matter of no just having a chance (albeit a slim one) of owning it through some means. Another event? Grind? Whatever... but to actually see these ships used in the game.
I don't deny they are unique and should be. But that also raises an interesting question (and one that may even be part of a language barrier)... are they unique in the sense that there should be only ONE (if thats the case, why was there more than one Silver Magnate? More than one IMP Apoc?). Or do they mean unique as in 'set apart from the rest'. Unique in comparison to the standard model... that'd be a question only ccp could answer i suppose.
I don't buy the 'eve history' line. If any more were given in another event or if tribal pest could be gotten in an LP store, that doesn't tarnish Eve's history. It will still and always be part of the story.
I've been here as long or longer than most of you I bet. They have great history, but no one ever said they should be so rare only one will exist in some guys hangar collecting dust... or so rare the only hopes you have of owning one is 100billion isk and a handjob 
Nuff allready they can be bought and sold like anything else on eve.
I was on the COW team that lost the semifinal (to dampeners on frigs no less ) and thus I received just 2 CNRs :(
I can confirm that even before the semifinal people were contacting us AND Ronnin to ask for the State Raven one of us would get (they were calling it a Corvus at the time I think) for 27 billion (that was their initial offer)...
All items in eve can be had ... at a price...When I was a gallente noob I was impressed by my first launchers (on a Celestis) and wanted to have moar on my Vexor too! I found a missle Vexor (well 1 missle) on market and it sold for 200 mill (quite a good price in retrospect)... it was called a Guardian Vexor... Unique ships are kewl BECAUSE they are unique...
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royal killer
Amarr Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2008.12.08 12:25:00 -
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Making the fed issue available to public would make the unique-nes of the ship go down the drain and making entity's investment in the ship utterly waste of isk (Wich is not atm since it's such a unique ship).
Although I am not completly against the idea of making this ship available via the LP store in combination with Faction Warfare (10 bill isk worth MINIMUM) but, still, earlier statement stays.
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