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Random Elite
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.12.05 09:10:00 -
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So traveling is one of those things that I've always wanted to do. There are many places that I would like to visit. Many parts of Europe, if not all parts. Most of Asia, parts of South America and parts of Africa. But I really don't know where I would like to live. You see, I was born and raised in sunny Southern California. It's the only place I've ever thought of as home, and I've never imagined living elsewhere. The food, the beaches, the girls. It's just too nice.
But then I watched Zeitgeist. Boy was that a mistake. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but it all makes so much sense. Now, I could go into a whole novel on the documentary and it's sequel, but that's not why I'm here. Basically, I want to leave the United States. My timeline is roughly five years. Five years to save up, learn a new language (half-assedly) and develop some trade skill that can be used in my new target home.
So where should I go? I would like to be in a country that is not involved in the EU or any form that might be same on any continent. As far as my research has shown me, in Europe that leaves me Switzerland and Norway. I need beautiful women, fantastic beer, awesome scenery, cigarettes, a low(ish) living cost, and (preferably) a heavy metal scene.
So I turn to the greatest, most diverse forum on the internets. Fellow EVErs, where shall I live???
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.12.05 09:22:00 -
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Even if you don't move at all, I doubt you will be living in the "USA" five years from now (might as well be living in the "Republic of California" by then or whatever that area will be calling itself)... so might as well stay there. Everywhere sucks right now, and will suck even more in the near future. California actually sounds like a pretty decent place to be in, just not in or too near LA - a smaller city, even a village-style town, now that would be just great - as long as you're somewhere near a natural fresh water source and there's some farmland nearby, you're going to be just peachy.
Actually, I'm afraid I was a bit too optimistic with my previous statements 
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Reven Cordelle
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.12.05 09:22:00 -
[3]
Sounds like Switzerland is your only option, and that sure as hell isn't cheap.
Or if you feel like plunging yourself into degeneracy and realising how the USA isn't that bad, come to the UK for a week or two.
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Random Elite
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.12.05 09:25:00 -
[4]
Lol, good point, both of you.
Now I do understand that at this current time the US is not at all that bad, its actually very nice. And where I am is not too bad either. But I'm afraid of where it is going. I don't want to be stuck here if things happen that I fear may and/or will. I'm more willing to take the chance that I didn't have to leave, rather than I should have left years ago.
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Taradis
Amarr
The Imperial Assassins
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Posted - 2008.12.05 09:30:00 -
[5]
I wanna live on my own island now that would be awesome
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Irida Mershkov
Gallente
El Bastardos
EVESpace
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Posted - 2008.12.05 09:33:00 -
[6]
 Originally by: Reven Cordelle
Or if you feel like plunging yourself into degeneracy and realising how the USA isn't that bad, come to the UK for a week or two.
Gonna be saying this.
Norway has pretty much what you wanted.
Plus freezing cold weather and everything is super-bloody expensive.
Other than that, come to the UK!
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annoing
Fallen Angel's
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Posted - 2008.12.05 09:34:00 -
[7]
Norway
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I need beautiful women, fantastic beer, awesome scenery, cigarettes, a low(ish) living cost, and (preferably) a heavy metal scene.
Except the lowish living costs part.
However, get trained in teaching english (In the Uk its called T.E.F.L - Teaching English as a Foreign Language- its not hard to do believe me, even I have quals in that) as it will be a good fallback for either a full-time job or a part-time extra cash job when you are there. In fact, it would be ideal for where-ever you decide to go.
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Dr Slaughter
Minmatar
Rabies Inc.
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Posted - 2008.12.05 10:38:00 -
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Originally by: annoing
However, get trained in teaching english (In the Uk its called T.E.F.L - Teaching English as a Foreign Language- its not hard to do believe me, even I have quals in that) as it will be a good fallback for either a full-time job or a part-time extra cash job when you are there. In fact, it would be ideal for where-ever you decide to go.
/\__this.
Norway, Sweden, Denmark <- fairly expensive & interesting tax rates 
Estonia <- interesting alternative
But as others have eluded too it's entirely possible that lots of places that seem good now may not be in 5 years time. I think that's why getting a good fall-back skill like the TEFL is such good advice.
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Tzar'rim
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Posted - 2008.12.05 10:38:00 -
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Edited by: Tzar''rim on 05/12/2008 10:38:49
Every country/bank runs the same scheme or is being used in it, if you properly watched that movie you'll realise it's everywhere. Thing is ofcourse that the "consume, consume!" and "if you don't buy stuff on credit you're a wuss!" mentality now suddenly starts to make sense, thing is ofcourse that it already should have made sense.
The only way to battle it is to either fully abolish the monetary system or (if you have enough of the stuff) make use of it.
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Valan
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.12.05 10:41:00 -
[10]
Don't move to the UK the women are dull, short, fat and grumpy.
Switzerland is expensive but an awesome place to live especially Geneva. In the summer you can hang out on the lake and the alps are an hour away.
Problem with Switzerland is getting in, you'll need a career first. I would go for one of the Nordic countries, Sweden, Norway oh yeh and visit Amsterdam thats a pretty damn cool place to hang out.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.12.05 10:42:00 -
[11]
Originally by: Akita T
Even if you don't move at all, I doubt you will be living in the "USA" five years from now (might as well be living in the "Republic of California" by then or whatever that area will be calling itself)... so might as well stay there. Everywhere sucks right now, and will suck even more in the near future. California actually sounds like a pretty decent place to be in, just not in or too near LA - a smaller city, even a village-style town, now that would be just great - as long as you're somewhere near a natural fresh water source and there's some farmland nearby, you're going to be just peachy.
Actually, I'm afraid I was a bit too optimistic with my previous statements
right, we only got 4 years and a few days (or was it a few weeks)
get ready for 2012
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EnslaverOfMinmatar
Yarsk Hunters
DeaDSpace Coalition
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Posted - 2008.12.05 11:01:00 -
[12]
Zimbabwe, everyone is a billionaire there.
uʍop ǝpısdn ǝɹnʇɐuƃıs ʎɯ ƃuıpɐǝɹ ǝɹɐ noʎ
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Le Cardinal
Black Plague.
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Posted - 2008.12.05 11:45:00 -
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I can recommend norway, as im from Norway :) Dont expect too much of the beer tho! Its not as cold as ppl might think (at the coast), unless you go north or inland during winter. But ofc not as warm as the mediteranian countries. Beautifull women here 
If you like to go fishing its perfect, and lots of mountains if your into outdoor activities. Also many places to ski during winter.
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Liranan
M'8'S
Frontal Impact
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Posted - 2008.12.05 11:48:00 -
[14]
Edited by: Liranan on 05/12/2008 11:54:41
Originally by: Irida Mershkov
Originally by: Reven Cordelle
Or if you feel like plunging yourself into degeneracy and realising how the USA isn't that bad, come to the UK for a week or two.
Gonna be saying this.
Norway has pretty much what you wanted.
Plus freezing cold weather and everything is super-bloody expensive.
Other than that, come to the UK!
I highly recommend Afghanistan or Iraq over the UK.
Dr Slaughter and I had a very long conversation about leaving a while ago and I am glad to see he's leaving the UK(where to I know not but have an idea).
Contact me in game, however.
Farjung is my God
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Irulan S'Dijana
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.12.05 11:48:00 -
[15]
Hows New Zealand sound?
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Buxaroo
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.12.05 14:30:00 -
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Haven't seen the movie. But I did read the wiki of it. I gotta say the first part about the origins of religion are logical sense religion is made up anyways. But it seems the movie had lost the plot when it delves into the bull**** conspiracy theories and "New World Order" crapola.
It's as if people don't like the style of God in the religious form so they formulate a new God (aka conspiracy theories and big brother) in a different form.
It's very simple. They are all full of ****.
Having said that, move to Tahiti
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Stitcher
Caldari
Duty.
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Posted - 2008.12.05 14:41:00 -
[17]
Originally by: Valan
Don't move to the UK the women are dull, short, fat and grumpy.
You must be living in bizarro-UK, then, because all I see are petit, curvy, dry-witted ladies...
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Cosy Ceaon
Gallente
Porandor
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Posted - 2008.12.05 14:45:00 -
[18]
OP try gibraltar
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Reven Cordelle
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.12.05 14:50:00 -
[19]
Originally by: Stitcher
Originally by: Valan
Don't move to the UK the women are dull, short, fat and grumpy.
You must be living in bizarro-UK, then, because all I see are petit, curvy, dry-witted ladies...
Depends, you anywhere near Winchester?
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Stitcher
Caldari
Duty.
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Posted - 2008.12.05 14:56:00 -
[20]
nope, I'm about 150 miles north of there.
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Captain Verin "Stitcher" Tarn-Hakatain. |
Afale II
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2008.12.05 15:00:00 -
[21]
Go to the Moon, I heard that the USA was never there.
*tinfoilhat*
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.12.05 15:01:00 -
[22]
Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
right, we only got 4 years and a few days (or was it a few weeks)
get ready for 2012
If you mean the most-likely-scandalous-if-not-canceled 2012 presidential elections, then yeah
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Davina Braben
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Posted - 2008.12.05 15:45:00 -
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Quote:
So where should I go? I would like to be in a country that is not involved in the EU or any form that might be same on any continent. As far as my research has shown me, in Europe that leaves me Switzerland and Norway. I need beautiful women, fantastic beer, awesome scenery, cigarettes, a low(ish) living cost, and (preferably) a heavy metal scene.
Scandinavia is awesome, but I dunno about "low living cost" 
Also you'd have to learn their funny moon languages.
Sweden would actually be top of my list but only because I've really liked the cities I've been to there. Goteborg is wonderful place.
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Valan
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.12.05 15:50:00 -
[24]
Originally by: Reven Cordelle
Originally by: Stitcher
Originally by: Valan
Don't move to the UK the women are dull, short, fat and grumpy.
You must be living in bizarro-UK, then, because all I see are petit, curvy, dry-witted ladies...
Depends, you anywhere near Winchester?
lol I'm down South.
Go to France, Switzerland, Spain, Iceland, Canada and the US and tell me we're lucky!!!
Went to have my hair cut and the young lass cutting my hair looked like a bulldog chewing a wasp. The last time she was all sweetness and light despite having a cold. You know why? Because she wanted a Christmas tip lol A girl I know was telling her mate about me and I overheard, one of my qualities apparently was cash.
Unfortunately other qualities include accute hearing and a lack of desperation.
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Stitcher
Caldari
Duty.
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Posted - 2008.12.05 16:04:00 -
[25]
See, that sort of thing is why I prefer the Midlands.
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Captain Verin "Stitcher" Tarn-Hakatain. |
Valan
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.12.05 16:07:00 -
[26]
Originally by: Stitcher
See, that sort of thing is why I prefer the Midlands.
You can't fool me I've lived in Coventry that place is devoid of women.
Nottingham is pretty good.
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FluterEx
Caldari
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2008.12.05 16:09:00 -
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Personaly i want to go to Japan and maybe stay there. The only thing i can tell you is: Do not come to germany, it really sucks to live here.
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Davina Braben
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Posted - 2008.12.05 16:23:00 -
[28]
Originally by: FluterEx
Personaly i want to go to Japan and maybe stay there. The only thing i can tell you is: Do not come to germany, it really sucks to live here.
Japanu looks weirdu.
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Shanzem
Minmatar
DarkStar 1
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.12.05 16:23:00 -
[29]
Edited by: Shanzem on 05/12/2008 16:24:12
Japan > world.
English girls.. wouldn't even go there. there Great if your a shallow person.
English girls appeal to idiots, (its really starting to show)
Asian is the way forward, huge geek background (Anime, technology, science MIT of japan really advanced ****., education)
Asian girls :FAP:
Think Asian from now on, because in 20 ~ 15 years time they will own ALL our life's. finally heaven 
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Stitcher
Caldari
Duty.
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Posted - 2008.12.05 16:30:00 -
[30]
Originally by: Shanzem
Edited by: Shanzem on 05/12/2008 16:24:12
Japan > world.
English girls.. wouldn't even go there. there Great if your a shallow person.
English girls appeal to idiots, (its really starting to show)
Asian is the way forward, huge geek background (Anime, technology, science MIT of japan really advanced ****., education)
Asian girls :FAP:
Think Asian from now on, because in 20 ~ 15 years time they will own ALL our life's. finally heaven
Weeaboo.jpg.
Seriously, there's nothing wrong with English girls. Your sour attitude's just being reflected back at you is all.
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Shanzem
Minmatar
DarkStar 1
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.12.05 16:37:00 -
[31]
Edited by: Shanzem on 05/12/2008 16:45:39
Edited by: Shanzem on 05/12/2008 16:42:18
Edited by: Shanzem on 05/12/2008 16:41:17
Edited by: Shanzem on 05/12/2008 16:39:09
Edited by: Shanzem on 05/12/2008 16:37:23
Originally by: Stitcher
Originally by: Shanzem
Edited by: Shanzem on 05/12/2008 16:24:12
Japan > world.
English girls.. wouldn't even go there. there Great if your a shallow person.
English girls appeal to idiots, (its really starting to show)
Asian is the way forward, huge geek background (Anime, technology, science MIT of japan really advanced ****., education)
Asian girls :FAP:
Think Asian from now on, because in 20 ~ 15 years time they will own ALL our life's. finally heaven
Weeaboo.jpg.
Seriously, there's nothing wrong with English girls. Your sour attitude's just being reflected back at you is all.
i live in the midlands i am allowed and whoa what barked up your tree..
not everyone likes england. i am entitled to thought and opinions?
Besides not everyone like dating that drunken s****you call a "girl" some of us want respectable girl friends.
I just need to visit another part of the UK i guess.
In fact do us all a favor and have a night drinking at Mansfield. come back and tell me what you think then!
Oh and those curvy girls, try pulling one and actually getting to know it.
i give it a month before you break up or get fed up of the life style.
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Davina Braben
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Posted - 2008.12.05 16:38:00 -
[32]
I'd have known he was a goon even without the corp tag
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Shanzem
Minmatar
DarkStar 1
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.12.05 16:43:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Davina Braben
I'd have known he was a goon even without the corp tag
sigh i didn't even want to be in goons dammit
DS1corp joined to fight bob after the ASCN wars.
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FluterEx
Caldari
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2008.12.05 16:52:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Shanzem
Edited by: Shanzem on 05/12/2008 16:35:33
Edited by: Shanzem on 05/12/2008 16:24:12
Japan > world.
English girls.. wouldn't even go there. there Great if your a shallow person.
English girls appeal to idiots, (its really starting to show)
Asian is the way forward, huge geek background (Anime, technology, science MIT of japan really advanced ****., education)
Asian girls :FAP:
Think Asian from now on, because in 20 ~ 15 years time they will own ALL our life's. finally heaven
Oh and Dont forget cosplay! Cosplay 1
Cosplay 2
Cosplay 3
The Japanese culture is crazy in a lot of ways and thats why i like it. You see more and more japanese stuff coming out here but the ppl are just too conservative to try the really funny things. And after all the kids here tend to be more and more stupid every year.
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Shanzem
Minmatar
DarkStar 1
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.12.05 16:58:00 -
[35]
Originally by: FluterEx
Originally by: Shanzem
Edited by: Shanzem on 05/12/2008 16:35:33
Edited by: Shanzem on 05/12/2008 16:24:12
Japan > world.
English girls.. wouldn't even go there. there Great if your a shallow person.
English girls appeal to idiots, (its really starting to show)
Asian is the way forward, huge geek background (Anime, technology, science MIT of japan really advanced ****., education)
Asian girls :FAP:
Think Asian from now on, because in 20 ~ 15 years time they will own ALL our life's. finally heaven
Oh and Dont forget cosplay! Cosplay 1
Cosplay 2
Cosplay 3
The Japanese culture is crazy in a lot of ways and thats why i like it. You see more and more japanese stuff coming out here but the ppl are just too conservative to try the really funny things. And after all the kids here tend to be more and more stupid every year.
yup, and there obsessed with science and technology, and have built of culture on been different (not worthless sheep), its a very nice country. i am certinally going to try and get over there and have kids. its the only country / culture i know thats actually a stable and respectable. while fun and interesting.
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Gneeznow
Minmatar
Cruoris Seraphim
Exalted.
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Posted - 2008.12.05 16:59:00 -
[36]
go to canada?
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Stitcher
Caldari
Duty.
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Posted - 2008.12.05 17:04:00 -
[37]
@ Shanzem - can I have your stuff, then?
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Captain Verin "Stitcher" Tarn-Hakatain. |
Shanzem
Minmatar
DarkStar 1
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.12.05 17:22:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Stitcher
@ Shanzem - can I have your stuff, then?
Wouldn't one usually sell said stuff, for purchasing power when moving to new location?
But sure.. limmie get my cash saved and i will put it on ebay for you to buy.
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Cmdr Sy
Appetite 4 Destruction
The Firm.
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Posted - 2008.12.05 17:24:00 -
[39]
Switzerland is going to implode this time. Sorry.
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Shanzem
Minmatar
DarkStar 1
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.12.05 17:27:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Cmdr Sy
Switzerland is going to implode this time. Sorry.
or get swallowed by a black hole.
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FluterEx
Caldari
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2008.12.05 18:57:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Shanzem
yup, and there obsessed with science and technology, and have built of culture on been different (not worthless sheep), its a very nice country. i am certinally going to try and get over there and have kids. its the only country / culture i know thats actually a stable and respectable. while fun and interesting.
Tell me when you want to go, maybe ill join .
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Max Torps
Gallente
eXceed Inc.
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Posted - 2008.12.05 19:11:00 -
[42]
@Shanzam, I know what you mean btw, I live in Derby so totlly understand!
@OP, It's funny but I've always wanted to move to California but the US won't let me in. Probably for good reason lol. Anyway, some great advice from others here. Also, interesting to hear what your dream lifestyle is... sounds like you want to go a bit rustic?
Based on your tastes, Thailand sounds like an opportunity for you, what do you think?
Aside from California, Canada and Iceland are my current favourites. I like mountaineering so those would be ideal while I still have the fitness and relative youth to do it! However, and more realistically for me, I'd be happy to have a small guest house in Wales or Scotland near some good peaks. Remote enough to get that isolated, out of the way of the hurly burly, and close enough to still be able to get some of the necessities. Ok comforts. 
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Verone
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.12.05 19:23:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Valan
Go to France, Switzerland, Spain, Iceland, Canada and the US and tell me we're lucky!!!
Been to all of them, and we're lucky.
Sadly we're also unlucky that we live on a messed up, badly run and underfunded nanny-state island full of immigrants (most illegal) and idiots.
Such is life.
\o/ EON FICTION WRITER OF THE YEAR! \o/
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Shanzem
Minmatar
DarkStar 1
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.12.05 19:39:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Verone
Originally by: Valan
Go to France, Switzerland, Spain, Iceland, Canada and the US and tell me we're lucky!!!
Been to all of them, and we're lucky.
Sadly we're also unlucky that we live on a messed up, badly run and underfunded nanny-state island full of immigrants (most illegal) and idiots.
Such is life.
.... sigh sucks
Japan the way forward,
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Shanzem
Minmatar
DarkStar 1
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.12.05 19:42:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Max Torps
@Shanzam, I know what you mean btw, I live in Derby so totlly understand!
@OP, It's funny but I've always wanted to move to California but the US won't let me in. Probably for good reason lol. Anyway, some great advice from others here. Also, interesting to hear what your dream lifestyle is... sounds like you want to go a bit rustic?
Based on your tastes, Thailand sounds like an opportunity for you, what do you think?
Aside from California, Canada and Iceland are my current favourites. I like mountaineering so those would be ideal while I still have the fitness and relative youth to do it! However, and more realistically for me, I'd be happy to have a small guest house in Wales or Scotland near some good peaks. Remote enough to get that isolated, out of the way of the hurly burly, and close enough to still be able to get some of the necessities. Ok comforts.
yeah WTF is up with the midlands. 
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Xen Gin
Universal Mining Inc
Forged Dominion
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Posted - 2008.12.05 22:15:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Shanzem
Originally by: Max Torps
@Shanzam, I know what you mean btw, I live in Derby so totlly understand!
@OP, It's funny but I've always wanted to move to California but the US won't let me in. Probably for good reason lol. Anyway, some great advice from others here. Also, interesting to hear what your dream lifestyle is... sounds like you want to go a bit rustic?
Based on your tastes, Thailand sounds like an opportunity for you, what do you think?
Aside from California, Canada and Iceland are my current favourites. I like mountaineering so those would be ideal while I still have the fitness and relative youth to do it! However, and more realistically for me, I'd be happy to have a small guest house in Wales or Scotland near some good peaks. Remote enough to get that isolated, out of the way of the hurly burly, and close enough to still be able to get some of the necessities. Ok comforts.
yeah WTF is up with the midlands.
Its the centre of the hell hole experts call England?
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Shanzem
Minmatar
DarkStar 1
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.12.05 22:17:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Xen Gin
Originally by: Shanzem
Originally by: Max Torps
@Shanzam, I know what you mean btw, I live in Derby so totlly understand!
@OP, It's funny but I've always wanted to move to California but the US won't let me in. Probably for good reason lol. Anyway, some great advice from others here. Also, interesting to hear what your dream lifestyle is... sounds like you want to go a bit rustic?
Based on your tastes, Thailand sounds like an opportunity for you, what do you think?
Aside from California, Canada and Iceland are my current favourites. I like mountaineering so those would be ideal while I still have the fitness and relative youth to do it! However, and more realistically for me, I'd be happy to have a small guest house in Wales or Scotland near some good peaks. Remote enough to get that isolated, out of the way of the hurly burly, and close enough to still be able to get some of the necessities. Ok comforts.
yeah WTF is up with the midlands.
Its the centre of the hell hole experts call England?
Hahahaha nice one! Cola, meet monitor.
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Gneeznow
Minmatar
Cruoris Seraphim
Exalted.
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Posted - 2008.12.05 22:51:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Verone
Originally by: Valan
Go to France, Switzerland, Spain, Iceland, Canada and the US and tell me we're lucky!!!
Been to all of them, and we're lucky.
Sadly we're also unlucky that we live on a messed up, badly run and underfunded nanny-state island full of immigrants (most illegal) and idiots.
Such is life.
pfft england got it easy, try ireland, the day poland, lithuania and latvia joined the EU it seems the entire population of those countries got on a plane and moved to ireland, it seems like 50% of the people out on the streets are eastern european, and to make it even worse they are all driving bmw's they brought with them which were insured back home for peanuts, but the irish get screwed for insurance even on a tiny car its thousands of euro's
Every shop EVERY DELI EVERY GROCERY STORE, the staff is 95% eastern european (not exhaggerating) and if you want something you need to repeat it like 5 times because none speak bloody english, every day I go down to the shop to get a salad roll with 5 ingredients and I need to repeat each ingrediant 3 to 5 times
call me racist or whatever, but letting poland, lithuania and latvia into EU = huge mistake, same if ukraine or romania ever get let in.
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Stitcher
Caldari
Duty.
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Posted - 2008.12.05 23:13:00 -
[49]
Edited by: Stitcher on 05/12/2008 23:14:12
Sometimes, it feels like I'm the only guy in the whole country who actually enjoys living here...
...course, It could be that my opinion of Staffordshire is coloured slightly from having grown up in Wales...
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Dantes Revenge
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.12.05 23:22:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Stitcher
Originally by: Valan
Don't move to the UK the women are dull, short, fat and grumpy.
You must be living in bizarro-UK, then, because all I see are petit, curvy, dry-witted ladies...
You must be in a secluded part of the UK that nobody else ever sees. Unless of course, you have the same hex placed on you that Shallow Hal had.
My apologies to any of the FEW (and I do mean very few) women who may have good figures but, one of my main gripes about this country is that people allow themselves to get overweight. Even a lot of men don't know how to keep fit and most women just give up and bloat out after they've had one kid.
If you want to see fit women, Holland, Germany, Sweden, Switzerland and a lot of the other European countries but UK is right at the bottom of the list.
Oh, and everyone is grumpy here because few have much to be happy about. High prices, low wages, it's almost a third world country compared to most of Europe.
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Dr Slaughter
Minmatar
Rabies Inc.
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Posted - 2008.12.06 00:16:00 -
[51]
Originally by: "Liranan"
Dr Slaughter and I had a very long conversation about leaving a while ago and I am glad to see he's leaving the UK(where to I know not but have an idea).
I don't want to jinx it, but, the plan is the Isle of Man. Probably not far enough but near to our mums and it's where one of my business ventures is incorporated and could be where I will move another if we run into serious aggravation with the gambling commission.
Originally by: "Shanzem"
cosplay
Always makes me smile. I used to go to a place called Peckforton Castle in the 80's to play LARP. Met some very cool girls there, although it's fair to say they were seriously out numbered. Seems like LARP is better than when I played though.
http://skaut.sedenka.cz/rvz2006/nove/larpy/fotky_z_larpu/LARP_Women_Anita_Lisa_AmazonTriumph_Snow.jpg
Any girls who're up for playing semi-naked barbarian warriors and actually take a guy down at sword point, IN THE SNOW, beats animation copycats in my book any day!
Also.. get out to a decent club, Slimelight in London would be a good place to start.
Originally by: "Cmdr Sy"
Switzerland is going to implode this time. Sorry.
I hope you're wrong as I have a long term goal of moving to the old town part of Bern.
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mishkof
Caldari
Dirty Denizens
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Posted - 2008.12.06 00:47:00 -
[52]
This thread is funny. Yes, I am sure Japan is just elated with joy at the thought of letting in a bunch of people who let their own country go to hell, and would rather run away then fix it.
Here is a hint. The reason that they are so successful is because they dont let in the kind of ******s that the majority of the Western World has turned into over the last 50 years. Just sayin.
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Dmian
Gallente
Gallenterrorisme
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Posted - 2008.12.06 00:47:00 -
[53]
Edited by: Dmian on 06/12/2008 00:52:23
Well, moving to another country, specially if that country is in another continent, is hard, let me tell you.
Prepare to star over in your life. You lose all your friends, relatives, your career, your references, your place in society.
You'll know nobody, you'll be alone (for good or for bad) you won't have a place to go, you'll be in an unknow place. And surely, you'll feel out of society for a couple of years, until you get a gripe at what's going on socially (people continually making references to things you've never heard about, or that you can't possibly know because you didn't live there before.)
Really, you don't have a close idea of how tied you are to your town, family, circle of friends, society until you leave your home to live in another place.
We have this romantic idea that we are independent, that we need nobody else but ourselves... and then you leave and realize that you are who you are becuase you have a lot of people around you that makes you who you are.
It's not for the faint of heart, really.
Think twice before leaving.
Take it from someone who did it and went through hard times.
P.S: Unless you are a orphan, you live with the constant fear that you'll someday receive that call and wish that you have enough money to take the first plane to your country to say goodbye to your loved ones. That sucks, really.
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Dr Slaughter
Minmatar
Rabies Inc.
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Posted - 2008.12.06 00:54:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Dmian
It's not for the faint of heart, really.
Think twice before leaving.
This too unless you're doing a working holiday type thing and probably not really leaving for more than a year.
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Dantes Revenge
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.12.06 01:19:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Dmian
We have this romantic idea that we are independent, that we need nobody else but ourselves... and then you leave and realize that you are who you are becuase you have a lot of people around you that makes you who you are.
Hmm... That's a matter of opinion. Some people can be quite happy with their own company and these sorts would be at home anywhere they went. If, like me, you can be alone or not and it makes no difference either way, you can go anywhere in the world and still not feel out of place.
Some of us actually don't need others and I have been to other countries and have been prepared to stay permanently. Only my lack of job and inability to get one without a lot of beurocratic red tape there forced me to come back on two occasions, a third due to problems that made it dangerous for me to stay.
Personally, I don't much like who I have become since coming back to the UK but the society here does things to you mentally and if you're not used to it due to living abroad, it grates on you. When I was in Philippines, Indonesia and even Malta, I felt free and full of life, here in the UK, I feel caged and ready to end it all.
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There's a simple difference between kinky and perverted. Kinky is using a feather to get her in the mood. Perverted is using the whole chicken.
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TimMc
Gallente
Brutal Deliverance
OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.06 01:35:00 -
[56]
Take the easy route and move to Canada or New Zealand.
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Neth'Rae
Gallente
Decorum Inc
Tygris Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.06 01:45:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Cosy Ceaon
OP try gibraltar
Yeah, it's a really cool place :P
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Dmian
Gallente
Gallenterrorisme
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Posted - 2008.12.06 01:47:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Dantes Revenge
Hmm... That's a matter of opinion. Some people can be quite happy with their own company and these sorts would be at home anywhere they went. If, like me, you can be alone or not and it makes no difference either way, you can go anywhere in the world and still not feel out of place.
Some of us actually don't need others and I have been to other countries and have been prepared to stay permanently. Only my lack of job and inability to get one without a lot of beurocratic red tape there forced me to come back on two occasions, a third due to problems that made it dangerous for me to stay.
Personally, I don't much like who I have become since coming back to the UK but the society here does things to you mentally and if you're not used to it due to living abroad, it grates on you. When I was in Philippines, Indonesia and even Malta, I felt free and full of life, here in the UK, I feel caged and ready to end it all.
Well, when you move to another country you take with you not only the good things, but also the bad ones. Your "karma" to put it simply. You have to really think if your problems are something that's coming from yourself or from your enviroment. Because if it's coming from you, you won't get rid of them moving elsewhere.
And also, the first couple of years you live in constant romance with your new enviroment. Then you start to get into it and see all the underlying problems that you disregarded at the begining. After all, no society is perfect. All have their problems. And you are used to your own society's problems. But when you have to deal with the problems of another society, well, that's completely different. Some people can live with it, others don't.
Next march is going to make 7 years that I'm living in another country. It's been a rollercoaster, most of it. I'm happy, but it's far from my ideal situation. It's been harder than I thought (and I'm of the "happy with myself" type of guy.)
Of course, every experience is different. If you are a millionaire, for example, the world is your home. 
For for the average guy, it's not something you should decide lightly. At least, in my humble opinion.
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Dickens Cider
Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.12.06 02:20:00 -
[59]
For the last few years I was under the impression everyone hated the States. The way this thread is going, I wouldn't be suprised if the UK slit its collective wrists.
And, I thought we had it bad just dealing with illegal immigrants from Mexico. Sounds like you guys in the UK get riff raff from all over Europe, Asia and the Mid East.
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TimMc
Gallente
Brutal Deliverance
OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.06 02:28:00 -
[60]
Originally by: ****ens Cider
For the last few years I was under the impression everyone hated the States. The way this thread is going, I wouldn't be suprised if the UK slit its collective wrists.
And, I thought we had it bad just dealing with illegal immigrants from Mexico. Sounds like you guys in the UK get riff raff from all over Europe, Asia and the Mid East.
They pay taxes and work for the most part, I don't really see the problem.
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Ambein Flambein
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Posted - 2008.12.06 02:40:00 -
[61]
i recomend trying new zealand. living costs are reasonable for the most part and its only our internet that sucks. plus we arent likely to get bombed by anyone anytime soon. you should especially check out the town/city of palmerston north
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Dickens Cider
Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.12.06 02:45:00 -
[62]
And you can legally distill alcohol!
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Dantes Revenge
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.12.06 02:52:00 -
[63]
Originally by: TimMc
Originally by: ****ens Cider
For the last few years I was under the impression everyone hated the States. The way this thread is going, I wouldn't be suprised if the UK slit its collective wrists.
And, I thought we had it bad just dealing with illegal immigrants from Mexico. Sounds like you guys in the UK get riff raff from all over Europe, Asia and the Mid East.
They pay taxes and work for the most part, I don't really see the problem.
The legal immigrants maybe but there's not many of them. Also, have you considered how many British people would be working instead of on the dole if these immigrants didn't take them? Some of those on benefits actually want to work but can't because there are not enough jobs for everyone. Why are these immigrants allowed to come here if we have not got jobs enough for the people we've already got here? Why are refugees not sent home when the trouble in their country is over? The refugees from Afganistan are still here and most of them are getting benefits, that one reason we are paying so much damned tax.
Some immigrants get jobs in security (it's racist here to say who), they only want night shift and they do it so they can sleep all night and expect to get paid for it. I really rage at that because I work the same hours for the same money and I stay awake but their actions reflects badly on all of us who work in security. Everyone thinks we all sleep when we're on duty because they make up such a large number of security guards.
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There's a simple difference between kinky and perverted. Kinky is using a feather to get her in the mood. Perverted is using the whole chicken.
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Posted - 2008.12.06 03:04:00 -
[64]
Originally by: ****ens Cider
And you can legally distill alcohol!
if you refering to new zealand, then yes, but there are restrictions on it.
also, new zealands legal drinking age is 18
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TimMc
Gallente
Brutal Deliverance
OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.06 03:16:00 -
[65]
Edited by: TimMc on 06/12/2008 03:16:19
Originally by: Dantes Revenge
Originally by: TimMc
Originally by: ****ens Cider
For the last few years I was under the impression everyone hated the States. The way this thread is going, I wouldn't be suprised if the UK slit its collective wrists.
And, I thought we had it bad just dealing with illegal immigrants from Mexico. Sounds like you guys in the UK get riff raff from all over Europe, Asia and the Mid East.
They pay taxes and work for the most part, I don't really see the problem.
The legal immigrants maybe but there's not many of them. Also, have you considered how many British people would be working instead of on the dole if these immigrants didn't take them? Some of those on benefits actually want to work but can't because there are not enough jobs for everyone. Why are these immigrants allowed to come here if we have not got jobs enough for the people we've already got here? Why are refugees not sent home when the trouble in their country is over? The refugees from Afganistan are still here and most of them are getting benefits, that one reason we are paying so much damned tax.
Some immigrants get jobs in security (it's racist here to say who), they only want night shift and they do it so they can sleep all night and expect to get paid for it. I really rage at that because I work the same hours for the same money and I stay awake but their actions reflects badly on all of us who work in security. Everyone thinks we all sleep when we're on duty because they make up such a large number of security guards.
Most immigrants working here are legal and contribute to the system. Its alot harder to illegally work in the UK than USA, but as its still possible it should be stamped out and benefits to people who never ever work should be reduced (oh hey... thats happening I think soon).
If someone is willing to come to a completely different country, learn a new language and put up with higher costs of living and immense taxes then I think they deserve a job here. The EU works both ways, if you ever get completely sick of it here the you can learn Spanish and work there for a while. Guess what they get? Not many benefits, but a far less nanny state and siestas in the middle of the day. Of course, you could also do what alot of Brits are doing lately and move to New Zealand. Heck I might eventually.
Edit: New Zealand is probably more safe than UK because the expensive flight...
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Stitcher
Caldari
Duty.
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Posted - 2008.12.06 03:46:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Dantes Revenge
Originally by: Stitcher
Originally by: Valan
Don't move to the UK the women are dull, short, fat and grumpy.
You must be living in bizarro-UK, then, because all I see are petit, curvy, dry-witted ladies...
You must be in a secluded part of the UK that nobody else ever sees.
What gets me is that nobody seems to have yet noticed that "petit, curvy and dry-witted" means more or less exactly the same thing as "short, fat and grumpy" except that one uses "positive" terms, and the other doesn't...
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Captain Hudson
Caldari
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.12.06 04:38:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Dantes Revenge
Originally by: Stitcher
Originally by: Valan
Don't move to the UK the women are dull, short, fat and grumpy.
You must be living in bizarro-UK, then, because all I see are petit, curvy, dry-witted ladies...
You must be in a secluded part of the UK that nobody else ever sees. Unless of course, you have the same hex placed on you that Shallow Hal had.
My apologies to any of the FEW (and I do mean very few) women who may have good figures but, one of my main gripes about this country is that people allow themselves to get overweight. Even a lot of men don't know how to keep fit and most women just give up and bloat out after they've had one kid.
If you want to see fit women, Holland, Germany, Sweden, Switzerland and a lot of the other European countries but UK is right at the bottom of the list.
Oh, and everyone is grumpy here because few have much to be happy about. High prices, low wages, it's almost a third world country compared to most of Europe.
im sorry but in london the average english girl/women is fairly good looking, same with a lot of southern england actually
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Gallente
Trinity Council.
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Posted - 2008.12.06 05:50:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Liranan
Edited by: Liranan on 05/12/2008 11:54:41
Originally by: Irida Mershkov
Originally by: Reven Cordelle
Or if you feel like plunging yourself into degeneracy and realising how the USA isn't that bad, come to the UK for a week or two.
Gonna be saying this.
Norway has pretty much what you wanted.
Plus freezing cold weather and everything is super-bloody expensive.
Other than that, come to the UK!
I highly recommend Afghanistan or Iraq over the UK.
Dr Slaughter and I had a very long conversation about leaving a while ago and I am glad to see he's leaving the UK(where to I know not but have an idea).
Contact me in game, however.
yes, i second this
at least you can defend yourself w/ out going to jail for attempted murder or manslaughter
Originally by: soldieroffortune 258
"Eve is about making yourself richer while making the other guy poorer"
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
Ninjas N Pirates
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Posted - 2008.12.06 06:11:00 -
[69]
Originally by: soldieroffortune 258
yes, i second this
at least you can defend yourself w/ out going to jail for attempted murder or manslaughter
and get your head cut off for being a westerner... and they'll film it
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serpent Tongue
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.12.06 06:49:00 -
[70]
Edited by: serpent Tongue on 06/12/2008 06:50:27
On the paper denmark could look like the perfect place. Relativly cheap beer, member of EU but we have some reservations f. ex we don't have the euro but dkr. We vere the first to leagalize P*** and have the very little mermaid.
The downside is how ever is that our minister of state is best pals with bush and he is trying to close christania. Danes are often afraid of evrything foreign so you might get juged harshly unless you move to the larger citys but i read in an article somwhere that copenhagen is the most expencive european capital to live in. Our metal scene sucks but you can easly get to festivals in britain, germany, norway and sweden.
But the worst thing we got is something called the "jantelaw i dont want to get into details but basicly it is a law that states:
Don't think you're anyone special or that you're better than us.
Look it up on wiki if you wan't to know more:)
So if you can live with being part of EU my advise would be move to Northern germany, flensburg is a decent sized city, get a job in denmark as our average pay-check is far better then you can live pretty good i gues, but the trick is going to be to let the german immigrations to accept you working in denmark i don't now what policy they have on that.
But if you should end up choosing denamrk let me warn you do not and i say it again do not move to "langeland" means longland it is an island and it is neigh impossible to get a decent connection on your mobile phone.
Anyway good luck finding a new palce to call home....
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Amarr
Dakinii
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Posted - 2008.12.06 07:37:00 -
[71]
Edited by: Vele Nori on 06/12/2008 07:38:35
Originally by: Random Elite
But then I watched Zeitgeist. Boy was that a mistake. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but it all makes so much sense. Now, I could go into a whole novel on the documentary and it's sequel, but that's not why I'm here. Basically, I want to leave the United States. My timeline is roughly five years. Five years to save up, learn a new language (half-assedly) and develop some trade skill that can be used in my new target home.
The way it works is that they first reveal to you something that is true and makes sense. That is the first bit of the movie that covers existence of Jesus Christ. Next, while you're in receiving and trusting mode from the first bit, they suddenly move on to 9/11 and other things. While you're still believing them from the first bit that carries over to the rest of everything else that they tell you. It is an effective propaganda technique already in use by many cults/religions to brand people into their following. And if you have any common sense in you will not base your life's decisions on propaganda films, srsly.
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Valan
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.12.06 11:57:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Stitcher
Originally by: Dantes Revenge
Originally by: Stitcher
Originally by: Valan
Don't move to the UK the women are dull, short, fat and grumpy.
You must be living in bizarro-UK, then, because all I see are petit, curvy, dry-witted ladies...
You must be in a secluded part of the UK that nobody else ever sees.
What gets me is that nobody seems to have yet noticed that "petit, curvy and dry-witted" means more or less exactly the same thing as "short, fat and grumpy" except that one uses "positive" terms, and the other doesn't...
lol nice observation.
Thats cos one is older and the novelty of seeing another pair of **** in a push up bra has pretty much worn off lol. Unfortunately I now require other things from a girl that sadly British women can't deliver. Luckily all these European immigrants provide a nice alternative.
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Lord Milton
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Posted - 2008.12.06 17:56:00 -
[73]
Come to Bosnia!
Its quite now and peaceful, seriously and a tax haven for the feckless
Enjoy
Ciao
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Brea Lafail
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Posted - 2008.12.06 19:15:00 -
[74]
I would recommend y'all stay clear of Canada for the next year or so. Things are getting a little rocky.
Once that mess settles, feel free to add yourself to the 5-7 year long immigration waiting list.
I always attribute people wanting to leave the US to the "grass is greener" effect. You were born in one of the richest, most powerful nations ever (and a very nice part of it, too). Stop complaining.
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Kazuma Saruwatari
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.12.06 21:42:00 -
[75]
@ OP:
I'd recommend somewhere in the tropics that's still open and not caged with stupid bureaucracy and crap.
Example: Philippines
Upsides:
-people like foreigners, though most think you're big walking moneybags
-opportunities for foreigners for big jobs is way higher than local folk
-girls are hot (speaking from experience, or else she'll strangle me as she's reading over my shoulder now >_< )
-laws and policing are light, but not to the point of letting organized crime take much root
-people dont want to/care to impose whats "right" to do in your own household (**** YEAH!)
-people are very guest-oriented
-in terms of PC infrastructure: software piracy is basically the main way people get whatever software they want down here, for pennies. Also, download speeds here, whilst a bit on the slow side, are heckuva-lot more stable than what you get in USA, for lots cheaper too
Downsides:
-people tend to get crabbish to tourists and newcomers to the country (be warned for taxi drivers giving off triple-digit fare numbers)
-political drama is an everyday thing here. Its quite a surprise we still have a working government, if at all.
-stay away from the seedier side of towns. They'll EASILY rob you of your cash in a day, either in a bar, with an "escort" or just being in the wrong side of town
-unfortunately, organized crime and the "other side" of civilized life is a normal thing here. Heck, I'm an everyday Joe and yet I've got contacts on both sides of the Straight and Narrow. Knowing people is way better than any paycheck.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
Ninjas N Pirates
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Posted - 2008.12.06 21:52:00 -
[76]
Just move to Jamaica
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Random Elite
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.12.07 19:29:00 -
[77]
See, this is why I'll never leave EVE! You guys ****ing rock!
Okay. Now I've considered Canada of course, for any American thats usually the first place you think of running. But if Canada is part of the North American Union in the future, there won't be much difference between Canada and the US. Norway seemed like a very logical choice to me because (from what I've read, and I'm sure someone here can correct me) they are unlikely to join the EU anytime soon. I want to be in a country that is not part of these giant conglomerates of government. Switzerland is almost always a good choice, but logically speaking they are in a weak position due to thier geographical location. Norway, being up north, is a bit safer, hopefully.
Now as far as Asia, the Philippines and Thailand I've also considered. You live like a king in both for what I pay for my car. But, I'd like to be in Europe. Maybe I'm just saying that because I haven't been to either. But in southeast Asia, there isn't much in the way of scholarly work being done, at least not to the extent that is is in Europe and other industrialized nations. And Japan? Yeah, right. The US built that country after WWII. Theres no way it can be much different in many ways.
Now having said that, I completely understand that 95% of the industrialized nations are ran the same way, suck in much of the same ways. The point of this endeavor is to escape the clutches of the economic powers. That means living in a crappy small flat. That means not owning a car, or a cell phone. That means not having a television. Honestly, a computer will most likely happen, but thats what would be used to keep up to date. And pron, of course. I figure I have two options: leave the country or start a revolution.
A lot of really valueable information has been given here, thank you guys so much. Keep it coming! I turn to this community because of the incredible diversity from lifestyles, social circles and countries. And I'm going to look into classes on teaching English as a foreign language.
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EnslaverOfMinmatar
Yarsk Hunters
DeaDSpace Coalition
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Posted - 2008.12.07 20:37:00 -
[78]
Or move to China/NK/Iran, everyone will suspect you're some kind of spy, wouldn't that be cool?
uʍop ǝpısdn ǝɹnʇɐuƃıs ʎɯ ƃuıpɐǝɹ ǝɹɐ noʎ
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Of Montreal
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The Sunshine Club
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Posted - 2008.12.07 22:41:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Random Elite
Lol, good point, both of you.
Now I do understand that at this current time the US is not at all that bad, its actually very nice. And where I am is not too bad either. But I'm afraid of where it is going. I don't want to be stuck here if things happen that I fear may and/or will. I'm more willing to take the chance that I didn't have to leave, rather than I should have left years ago.
Maybe you should stay and do something constructive instead of taking the easy way out. The US has gone through a lot of hard times and a lot of good times, you running away is like spitting in the face of the people that have fought hard for the opportunities we currently have and the people currently trying to change the US in a positive way.
I know we have a lot of problems that need fixing, but quite frankly if you leave the US just because you are afraid of its future it makes you a coward. If you were leaving because you fell in love with a different country or a different culture then that's another thing and would be understandable. However you have no idea where you'd want to live.
If you feel strongly about the US's future enough to leave then maybe you should use that motivation to change things, even if it is a small contribution.
Not trying to put you down, just wanted to give you a different perspective on this. Good Luck!
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Scagga Laebetrovo
Ammatar Free Corps
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Posted - 2008.12.08 14:48:00 -
[80]
Originally by: EnslaverOfMinmatar
Or move to China/NK/Iran, everyone will suspect you're some kind of spy, wouldn't that be cool?
Other than the fact that iranian food is pretty yummy.
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Dr Panda
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Posted - 2008.12.08 15:00:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Slaughter
Norway, Sweden, Denmark <- fairly expensive & interesting tax rates [:lol:
Well, atleast our taxes in sweden is used to change things in our cities, hospitals are partially free of charge, dentist for people under 20 is free and so on... while in USA the "tax" goes into the pocket of the federal reserve
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N.
The Firm.
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Posted - 2008.12.08 15:31:00 -
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Originally by: Of Montreal
Maybe you should stay and do something constructive instead of taking the easy way out. The US has gone through a lot of hard times and a lot of good times, you running away is like spitting in the face of the people that have fought hard for the opportunities we currently have and the people currently trying to change the US in a positive way.
But isn't he doing exactly what the people who founded the US did?
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Of Montreal
Gallente
The Sunshine Club
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Posted - 2008.12.08 19:55:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Of Montreal
Maybe you should stay and do something constructive instead of taking the easy way out. The US has gone through a lot of hard times and a lot of good times, you running away is like spitting in the face of the people that have fought hard for the opportunities we currently have and the people currently trying to change the US in a positive way.
But isn't he doing exactly what the people who founded the US did?
Nope, you can't equate the two. Discovering a new land and escaping religious persecution, then revolting against their former overlords and establishing a new country is different then being a chicken and leaving when things start to get rough. He has reaped the benefits of this country and now wants to leave because its getting a lil rough?
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Redempt
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Posted - 2008.12.09 03:14:00 -
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Nope, you can't equate the two. Discovering a new land and escaping religious persecution, then revolting against their former overlords and establishing a new country is different then being a chicken and leaving when things start to get rough. He has reaped the benefits of this country and now wants to leave because its getting a lil rough?
From a social psychological perspective it is human nature to be curious; I think it would best to visit the sovereign of your choice for an extended time period, prior to the decision to relocate.
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rValdez5987
Amarr
32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment.
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Posted - 2008.12.09 07:52:00 -
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Originally by: Random Elite
Lol, good point, both of you.
Now I do understand that at this current time the US is not at all that bad, its actually very nice. And where I am is not too bad either. But I'm afraid of where it is going. I don't want to be stuck here if things happen that I fear may and/or will. I'm more willing to take the chance that I didn't have to leave, rather than I should have left years ago.
Did you know, that even during the great depression, that there was only 25% unemployment?
Also, currently in the US, the unemployment rate for those with a college degree is only 3%. those without a degree have a 9-10% unemployment rate which is expected to get a lot worse.
I have noticed that theres a huge sum of people that make excuses why they cant get a degree or how its too expensive, but its all lies.
Americans make too many mistakes because they dont know wtf they are doing. Like having families when you dont make enough money, working in a field you like rather then one that provides stability longterm, not going to college because your lazy, or staying at a crap job because you are comfortable rather then getting a good job and sacrificing a little comfort.
We also allowed bankruptcy. Which moron decided that allowing someone to go to court and essentially make their debt disapear was a good idea. I'd say that if you don't have a job your required to go to the WPA within 2 weeks and start working there until you get another so that you can pay your debts, otherwise you go to jail until you register. Jail won't be a nice place either. It'll be a cell with a toilet, small bed, and you can look through the bars.
Lazy ****s.
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rValdez5987
Amarr
32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment.
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Posted - 2008.12.09 07:55:00 -
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My point is, don't run from the problems here.
come together with the rest of those that see the true errors of this country, and make yourself heard. Our voices are small now, but slowly people will realize how blinded they are by greed, and selfishness.
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