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Lyra Sechrin	Posted - 2008.12.07 16:13:00 - [1] A while ago i heard about a way to make really deep safe spots by utilising a trick with probes - was wondering, does anyone know exactly how?
Gina Torres	Posted - 2008.12.07 16:17:00 - [2] Edited by: Gina Torres on 07/12/2008 16:17:26 Don't think it works anymore, but you would use the longest range probe (Deep Space Observator or something) and scan for something you knew was in system. Its results were so crazily inaccurate that when you warped to it, it tended to be way off in a random deep space location.
Lyra Sechrin	Posted - 2008.12.07 16:19:00 - [3] Originally by: Gina Torres Edited by: Gina Torres on 07/12/2008 16:17:26 Don't think it works anymore, but you would use the longest range probe (Deep Space Observator or something) and scan for something you knew was in system. Its results were so crazily inaccurate that when you warped to it, it tended to be way off in a random deep space location. ah right, sucks it can't be done anymore.
HighwayMan DhD Highwaymen	Posted - 2008.12.07 16:21:00 - [4] You used to drop a fighter: send it to a gang mate. He sends it back as you dock. The fighter de-spawned and reappeared in system around the 100au mark Use deep probes to get a signal warp on in, scoop and BM wether it still works any more: well try it.
Ocih Amarr	Posted - 2008.12.07 16:27:00 - [5] I just AFK cloak in an Anathema for weeks on end..
IceAero Amarr Shadow Company Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.12.07 17:10:00 - [6] One time in J-c my client crashed and I logged back in and was about 200au+ from everything in the system. never figured that one out...
Andrue Amarr	Posted - 2008.12.07 17:21:00 - [7] A long time back there was the F11 trick but that got removed. I also remember once suffering a CTD while I was in a pod. The emergency warp took over twenty minutes to complete -- (Sarcastic mission running veteran, 4+ years) [Brackley, UK] My budgie can say "ploppy bottom". You have been warned.
Zaerlorth Maelkor The Maverick Navy Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.07 17:35:00 - [8] Originally by: Ocih I just AFK cloak in an Anathema for weeks on end.. That's not going to do anything. Weeks of flying whatever howmany 100 m/s an anathema can do cloaked is only going to amount to around 1-2million kilometers. Which can easily be obtained in a few minutes by disconnecting and bookmarking your emergency warp point. ================================================== I should really get a sig.
Zephyr Rengate Caldari Wrath of Fenris	Posted - 2008.12.07 17:46:00 - [9] Originally by: Zaerlorth Maelkor Originally by: Ocih I just AFK cloak in an Anathema for weeks on end.. That's not going to do anything. Weeks of flying whatever howmany 100 m/s an anathema can do cloaked is only going to amount to around 1-2million kilometers. Which can easily be obtained in a few minutes by disconnecting and bookmarking your emergency warp point. can a shuttle cloak?
Khemul Zula Amarr Black Plague.	Posted - 2008.12.07 17:51:00 - [10] Edited by: Khemul Zula on 07/12/2008 17:52:19 Originally by: Zephyr Rengate Originally by: Zaerlorth Maelkor Originally by: Ocih I just AFK cloak in an Anathema for weeks on end.. That's not going to do anything. Weeks of flying whatever howmany 100 m/s an anathema can do cloaked is only going to amount to around 1-2million kilometers. Which can easily be obtained in a few minutes by disconnecting and bookmarking your emergency warp point. can a shuttle cloak? Sort of. Everything can cloak. It's just a matter of whether you can control when it cloaks. ------ I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it.
Mira O'karr Minmatar eXceed Inc.	Posted - 2008.12.07 18:09:00 - [11] you used to be able to bookmark a system which would generate a really deep safe. i dont think it works any more though. can some one confirm or deny ?
Kirana Si Tri-Mining Corp	Posted - 2008.12.07 18:10:00 - [12] Originally by: Zaerlorth Maelkor Originally by: Ocih I just AFK cloak in an Anathema for weeks on end.. That's not going to do anything. Weeks of flying whatever howmany 100 m/s an anathema can do cloaked is only going to amount to around 1-2million kilometers. Which can easily be obtained in a few minutes by disconnecting and bookmarking your emergency warp point. /someone got trolled
Carniflex Caldari StarHunt Fallout Project	Posted - 2008.12.07 19:16:00 - [13] Safespots more than 999 AU from closest object in starsystem were declared exploit with new probe changes if I remember correct. There is still few of those around I assume unless they were erased by the same script that got rid of insts. No longer in a region where I went thru trouble of making those so not sure if they still work. And yeah - you can no longer make them as far as I'm aware as probe warp accuracy deviations are a lot smaller (used to be tens of AU's on some probes).
Deviana Sevidon Gallente Panta-Rhei United Front Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.07 19:41:00 - [14] Just out of interest, does anyone know many AU the distance is between our Sun and Alpha Centauri?
knifee Caldari Euphoria Released	Posted - 2008.12.07 19:52:00 - [15] Originally by: Deviana Sevidon Just out of interest, does anyone know many AU the distance is between our Sun and Alpha Centauri? 4.37 light years = 276 357.365 Astronomical Units according to google
P'xel The Bastards	Posted - 2008.12.07 19:54:00 - [16] 4.37 light years away from our Sun.. 1 lightyear = 9,460,730,472,580.8 km (63,241.1 au) 4.37 x 63,241.1 = 276363.607 au tada
Blondieonsum Endless Opportunities	Posted - 2008.12.07 19:58:00 - [17] Edited by: Blondieonsum on 07/12/2008 20:01:02 I and i'm sure a lot of old school players have a 450au BM in a certain 0.0 enrty system. But yes they are impossible now to do i think :( THIS IS WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT
geomatica Infusion.	Posted - 2008.12.07 20:03:00 - [18] Can I see you deep safespot? Giggidy giggidy! On a side note, I hear that if you CTRL Q a bunch of times you can make them. Could be wrong tho. Sig Coming Soon(TM)
Andrue Amarr	Posted - 2008.12.07 20:57:00 - [19] Originally by: Mira O'karr you used to be able to bookmark a system which would generate a really deep safe. i dont think it works any more though. can some one confirm or deny ? That's what I was referring to. Pretty sure it was F11 then make bookmark. -- (Sarcastic mission running veteran, 4+ years) [Brackley, UK] My budgie can say "ploppy bottom". You have been warned.
Arcika Toalen Bodgit and Scarper Industrial	Posted - 2008.12.07 21:58:00 - [20] Originally by: geomatica Can I see your deep safespot? Giggidy giggidy! So thats whats on those "Adult" holoreels. Man: I am going to warp to you deep safe spot baby Woman: I love it when you talk dirty Man: Oh yeah I have a Hyperspace Velocity Optimiser Rig fitted so I am coming in fast Woman: Lets hope you left off the Low Friction Nozzle Joints as I want to feel you Man: Of course baby, I fitted Auxiliary Thrusters instead. At this point I will stop before we get on to making sure he is wearing a Polycarbon Engine Housing.
Captain Hack Caldari The Eye.	Posted - 2008.12.07 22:03:00 - [21] 8x MWD scorp used to be nice Then the bears came and started yelling and screaming at me, there were nothing I could do about it, like you cannot help but read my signature.
Dantes Revenge Caldari	Posted - 2008.12.07 22:06:00 - [22] Edited by: Dantes Revenge on 07/12/2008 22:06:25 Originally by: geomatica Edited by: geomatica on 07/12/2008 20:07:46 Can I see your deep safespot? Giggidy giggidy! On a side note, I hear that if you CTRL Q a bunch of times you can make them. Could be wrong tho. Edit Spelling. You can't predict the direction you're going to go in an emergency warp. If you tried this, you wouldn't go far from where you started. Also, IIRC, once you're in warp, it completes the warp before emergency warping again. So, since you are already in warp by the time you log back in, CTRL Q would take effect until you finished warping, you would effectively be emergency warping away from the same spot every time. I think CCP did this to prevent people escaping gate camps etc. People were emergency warping, logging back in and CTRL Q again so the next time they logged back in, they would warp back to their emergency warp SS next time instead of back to the gate camp. -- There's a simple difference between kinky and perverted. Kinky is using a feather to get her in the mood. Perverted is using the whole chicken. All this has happened before and will happen again
Ris Dnalor Minmatar Ex Cruoris Libertas	Posted - 2008.12.08 04:02:00 - [23] Originally by: Captain Hack 8x MWD scorp used to be nice I had a 4x MWD Typhoon back in the day, and I had to fill the low slots with power diags just to get the capacitor numbers high enough so that I could fire all 4 MWD's in rapid succession. After firing all 4 it took over somewhere between 10 and 15 minutes to coast down to a speed that allowed me to maneuver once again :)
durek magaliese	Posted - 2008.12.08 04:36:00 - [24] Originally by: Zephyr Rengate Originally by: Zaerlorth Maelkor Originally by: Ocih I just AFK cloak in an Anathema for weeks on end.. That's not going to do anything. Weeks of flying whatever howmany 100 m/s an anathema can do cloaked is only going to amount to around 1-2million kilometers. Which can easily be obtained in a few minutes by disconnecting and bookmarking your emergency warp point. can a shuttle cloak? hmmm... where to start does it have any high slots?....
Bloody Rabbit Jita Miners	Posted - 2008.12.08 06:05:00 - [25] Originally by: Dantes Revenge Also, IIRC, once you're in warp, it completes the warp before emergency warping again. So, since you are already in warp by the time you log back in, CTRL Q would take effect until you finished warping, you would effectively be emergency warping away from the same spot every time. I think CCP did this to prevent people escaping gate camps etc. People were emergency warping, logging back in and CTRL Q again so the next time they logged back in, they would warp back to their emergency warp SS next time instead of back to the gate camp. You are wrong on this, I still use this to move items in low sec with a freighter. You need to time it right but all it takes is counting. I count to 15 secs then log back in, then Q out then 20 secs then warp to new gate. CCP if you read this, please don't fix it as the idea of using a 3,500m ship compared to 900,000m to stock low sec wouldn't be fun. Hell, I wouldn't do it.
Xianthar STK Scientific N.A.S.A	Posted - 2008.12.08 06:39:00 - [26] way back in the day when probes worked completely differently you could make deep safes with the system scanner probes (i forget the name now). "Deep Safe" meaning it was outside scan range of anyone dropping probes within the system or between objects, at the time this meant that the spot was almost completely impervious to scanning down. this doesn't work anymore. however some of these bookmarks are still around... theres the occasional weird sh*t that occurs too....back circa summer 2006 i undocked a freighter in 0.0, something happened in the process or warping to a gate and the thing shot into warp, after a fair amount of time (enough to go get a beer) it finally stopped more than 200au from the nearest object, thats the deepest safe i've personally ever seen...rough on the cap too... -x
Xianthar STK Scientific N.A.S.A	Posted - 2008.12.08 06:40:00 - [27] Originally by: Captain Hack 8x MWD scorp used to be nice this.
Lord Evangelian Gallente The White Mantle	Posted - 2008.12.08 07:00:00 - [28] OMG really deep safe spots... Thought you meant something else just then... The White Mantle \| Stuff to sell!

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