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Amy Wang	Posted - 2008.12.09 18:59:00 - [1] So I was wondering how fast are ships in eve actually so I did some quick calculations: fastest warp speed in eve: about 15au/sec (rigged covert/inty, yes it is not exactly 15 actually but 15 was easy to calculate with so bear with me ) 1 au = rough distance from earth to sun = about 8 light minutes so 15 au/sec are 2 light hours per second (15x8mins=120mins=2h) So for a distance the light travels 2 hours the ship takes one second, meaning it is 7200 times faster then light or 7200x C, quite impressive, that's about 8.1 trillion* km/h in case you were wondering (* American trillion not European trillion that is, yep, they are not the same) For comparison: In Star Trek warp factor 9 is something like 1500x C and warp factor 9.9 which is pretty much the realistic limit is about 6500x C which is pretty close to Eves max warp speed see above, coincidence? I think not ) So to travel e.g. from Sendaya to Doril (about 4ly, a region jump and a moderately far one at that) our ship would take about 5 hours provided it could travel at top speed all the time which it prolly cant due to cap restrictions so it has to slow down and start a new warp again and again etc but the difference will just be few hours in any case So inter system travel using warp drives should be possible, at least the speeds and distances involved don't forbid it, I know the game engine forbids it but that is not my point. Also lol at backstories saying a ship to build a jump gate in another system takes a couple decades to arrive, what kind of outdated warpdrives must they have been using
J Ryan Caldari Under Heavy Fire	Posted - 2008.12.09 19:13:00 - [2] Say an eve ship can travel 100au in one capacitor which with average skills seems quite reasonable. Now imagine that the ship can fully recharge its capacitor in 3 minutes (cap recahrge of 180secs seems quite good). To travel 4 light years or 252,958 au this would take 2529 warps. If they had to wait 3 minutes after each warp to do another, this would take 7,588 minutes or 5.2days. Eve warp travel, good for tactical warping, sucks for long distance travel.
Super Skulls Two Week Warriors	Posted - 2008.12.09 19:13:00 - [3] What you should be concerned about is that traveling at the speed of light would require all the energy in the universe.
Karille Gallente Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams	Posted - 2008.12.09 19:15:00 - [4] Originally by: Super Skulls What you should be concerned about is that traveling at the speed of light would require all the energy in the universe. The warp drive bends space and we hop over a short gap.
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.12.09 20:35:00 - [5] Originally by: Karille Originally by: Super Skulls What you should be concerned about is that traveling at the speed of light would require all the energy in the universe. The warp drive bends space and we hop over a short gap. Not in Eve. Eve-Online: The Text Adventure
Blastil	Posted - 2008.12.09 20:49:00 - [6] Originally by: Avon Originally by: Karille Originally by: Super Skulls What you should be concerned about is that traveling at the speed of light would require all the energy in the universe. The warp drive bends space and we hop over a short gap. Not in Eve. Physics? in MY eve? This is comming from a universe that has the aproximate density of chocolate pudding, based on how fast your ships slow to a stop.
Anubis Assassin Caldari Heavens Gate Consortium	Posted - 2008.12.09 20:54:00 - [7] I just think it's the funniest thing ever when people try to post "RL" things like "it'll take all the power in the universe" or "it can't because of this" for something that doesn't exist yet and people really have no idea how it would work beyond a few theories that are nowhere near testing... --------------------------- I have to make my own sig break? WTF? These forums suck CCP, fix 'em or get something better... I'm tired of reading Khraunus' sig every single time I read one of his
Manisk	Posted - 2008.12.09 21:16:00 - [8] Edited by: Manisk on 09/12/2008 21:16:48 "few theories that are nowhere near testing..." so general relativity is just a simple theory that hasn't been tested, yet we pretty much use it everywhere in our every day life (well the technology we use does)...
Mes Devour Blackwater Syndicate Shade Underworld	Posted - 2008.12.09 21:25:00 - [9] this thread = trolls trolling trolls
AkRoYeR Amarr	Posted - 2008.12.10 00:38:00 - [10] Originally by: Mes Devour this thread = trolls trolling trolls Than I'm in!
CrayC Gallente CrayC Inc.	Posted - 2008.12.10 00:52:00 - [11] Originally by: Amy Wang American trillion not European trillion that is, yep, they are not the same It would do you well to point out the difference between the two. And FYI, American and European trillions might not be the same as Danish trillions. This is not a troll-attempt, this is merely stating a fact that language difference can cause confusion and a Trillion in Danish is not a very small number...
Lyvanna Kitaen Minmatar Noonday Sun Corp	Posted - 2008.12.10 01:19:00 - [12] Originally by: Super Skulls What you should be concerned about is that traveling at the speed of light would require all the energy in the universe. At the speed of light, but perhaps travelling faster than light could require less energy. The problem is just getting over the hump. Of course this is Eve so science doesn't have to enter into it at all.
Spike 68 Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated	Posted - 2008.12.10 02:43:00 - [13] Edited by: Spike 68 on 10/12/2008 02:48:27 Originally by: Blastil This is comming from a universe that has the aproximate density of chocolate pudding that pretty much sums it up. Originally by: Amy Wang (* American trillion not European trillion that is, yep, they are not the same) So use scientific notation (8.1 X 10^12) km/h
Haradgrim Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION	Posted - 2008.12.10 02:59:00 - [14] Originally by: Blastil This is comming from a universe that has the aproximate density of chocolate pudding IIRC, the warp drive in eve's core drags on space/time which is the reason for the deceleration / chocolate pudding effect. -- Originally by: CCP Oveur Just donæt forget the reach-around.
Jona Picroft	Posted - 2008.12.10 03:21:00 - [15] http://www.eve-online.com/background/jump/jump_05.asp Eve Backstory on jump drives So stop arguing about how it works
Shining Tears	Posted - 2008.12.10 04:32:00 - [16] i think the main problem behind the hold thing is they just havent developed a way for a covert/inty warp engines to lock onto a target thats 4 l.y. away that and who would want to take a 5day trip.. that plus youd have to factor in server downtime.. so for the moment just work on jump drives so they can work without a cyn then downsize them for smaller ships :P
Dictum Factum Gemini Sun Violent-Tendencies	Posted - 2008.12.10 06:54:00 - [17] Originally by: Shining Tears so for the moment just work on jump drives so they can work without a cyn then downsize them for smaller ships The trouble with that is the simple fact that all of the inventors in the universe are too busy inventing things that have already been invented. I know less than you think I do.
Komen Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2008.12.10 07:09:00 - [18] An AU in Eve is 150...million? Billion?... kilometers. I forget which, I'd have to log in and look at it...meh. Anyways, nothing to do with average distance of earth to sun. In warp, even the slowest ships are moving hundreds of times the speed of light.
Entreri Finwe Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.12.10 07:24:00 - [19] Originally by: Komen Edited by: Komen on 10/12/2008 07:17:32 An AU in Eve is 150...million? Billion?... kilometers. I forget which, I'd have to log in and look at it...meh. Anyways, nothing to do with average distance of earth to sun. In warp, even the slowest ships are moving hundreds of times the speed of light. Edit: Right, so I checked. It's 150 million kilometers to an AU in Eve. So, at 1 AU per sec warp speed, you're doing 500 x the speed of light. Which means cruisers are doing 2250 x light speed (4.5 AU/sec), and the very fastest warps at 15 AU per sec are covering 2,250,000,000 kilometers every second. Now if only my car went that fast. Daily commute to work, fractional millionths of a second! Originally by: WikiPedia The astronomical unit (AU or au or a.u. or sometimes ua) is a unit of length based on the distance from the Earth to the Sun. The precise value of the AU is currently accepted as 149,597,870,691 ¦ 30 metres (nearly 150 million kilometres or 93 million miles). Linkety Originally by: jarack I de-synced in my bathroom once, now i have no where to wash my hands
Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2008.12.10 07:33:00 - [20] Well my ships operate with a flux capacitor, though the constant problem solving between spot A and B is beginning to be a bore looks at own hand Phew. My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
Huurtney Gurdsen	Posted - 2008.12.10 09:20:00 - [21] Eve physics are built on the Flash Gordon/Battlestar Galactica model I believe. Yea, though I wart through the valet of thy shadowy hut I will feed no norman.
Fujiko MaXjolt Caldari Templar Republic	Posted - 2008.12.10 09:27:00 - [22] Originally by: Jona Picroft http://www.eve-online.com/background/jump/jump_05.asp Eve Backstory on jump drives So stop arguing about how it works Confirming this is a rick-roll.
vbCrLf	Posted - 2008.12.10 10:26:00 - [23] Originally by: Super Skulls What you should be concerned about is that traveling at the speed of light would require all the energy in the universe. WOW! See I knew it! I knew there was something fishy about my 300Watt power supply. Being able to supply all my ships with enough energy to warp at light speed. The stuff you get from garage sales nowadays is unbelievable.
TimMc Gallente Brutal Deliverance OWN Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.10 10:53:00 - [24] Its a bloody game ffs, would you prefer to take a few hours to warp across a system?
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.12.10 11:46:00 - [25] Chocolate pudding is due to ships not using thrust for movement. This is also why they can be put in reverse. - DesuSigs
Calgura Gallente	Posted - 2008.12.10 11:49:00 - [26] Only 15 au/s? The speed ceptors (afraid I only know the Gallente one (Ares)) has a base of 13.5au/s. Add that with t2 rigs (each giving 25%), you're up around 20au/s.
techzer0 IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.12.10 11:50:00 - [27] Originally by: Sheriff Jones Well my ships operate with a flux capacitor, though the constant problem solving between spot A and B is beginning to be a bore looks at own hand Phew. My minmatar ships run on Amarrian babies. Yes, thats right. The young ones burn cleaner and produce less emissions. ------------ Originally by: Nexus Kinnon I could outgay you even without my pink tutu. >.>
Mishallia Venari Gallente	Posted - 2008.12.10 11:56:00 - [28] OK, im officially freaked out now. I sat and worked out very similar things yesterday (slow day in the office) just to see what sort of figures i came up with, then this thread appears. I started on the idea that unexplored systems would need to be reached using standard travel methods such as warp drive, not jump gates. so i worked on using a recon (perfect ship for er, recon work?) and at 3.8 au/sec i worked out a warp speed of around 1900c which agrees with the above. Travel to the system would involve lower than top speeds due to cap sustainability and stress on the drive systems. Say a long range warp speed of 50%. Even that worked out to be around 6 days to move 12ly. Mish Got Sig?
Klandi Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.12.10 12:07:00 - [29] But I must add to the discussion ....... Is the chocolate pudding made with the correct MIX of ingredients and are the language differences enough for people to maintain a logical understanding of the total irrelevance this topic contains. To explain with language when the language you use is imperfect ..... Carry on fake edit ... and why did I just say that ?
Franga Gristle Industries	Posted - 2008.12.10 12:10:00 - [30] Please note: EVE is a game. ----------

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