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Bayushi Tamago
Tribuo Quod Victum
The AirShip Pirates
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Posted - 2012.04.11 17:01:00 -
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10b is a lot of isk for casual players, and anyone who plays by plex and only get to play to pay to play. So, while it's a cool idea, it's a little impractical. Maybe next time, have an offer that takes less plex? (And something that is cheaper RL, but harder to get a hold of).
Thanks for making it impossible to afford the game :) |
Camios
Minmatar Bread Corporation
86
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Posted - 2012.04.11 17:05:00 -
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People do some googling and arithmetic and find that it's not convenient to buy a gfx card with isk they need..
Do you understand that this offer is only convenient to those who have lots and lots of isk in their wallet, more than they think they'll ever need?
Moreover it's clear that CCP cannot sell an unlimited number of cards through this offer, otherwise it would turn this into a way to "cash out" to its customers, like sort of a poker website.
Seen the very limited convenience of the offer, the limited number and probably also internet law this offer is the best that CCP can yield. They should just put more emphasis on the fact that it's for "power players" only. |
bucktooth
Ghost Data
Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr
2
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Posted - 2012.04.11 17:07:00 -
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Either ive been to account management and i am a fool and cant find the redeem for new gfx card, or i didnt get home from work early enough... |
Angel HUN
Spricer
Raiden.
18
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Posted - 2012.04.11 17:08:00 -
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bucktooth wrote:Either ive been to account management and i am a fool and cant find the redeem for new gfx card, or i didnt get home from work early enough...
Or you cannot read Dates. |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
665
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Posted - 2012.04.11 17:09:00 -
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ITSaSPY wrote:Let me just look at these numbers.
Currently the average price for these kinds of graphics cards (average GTX 560, EVGA version: 10 euro more than average) is about 150 euro at the closest store to my house.
20 plex is about (15x20) 300 euro.
So basicly if I use plex I would pay twice the money I would need when I'd pay using ... well, money.
I don't like the deal.
the problem with this calculation is that nobody will buy 20 plex to purchase a graphics card. They have them already and you can' make them to money anyway... so this is a quite good offer actually.
a eve-style bounty system https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=359105
You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |
bucktooth
Ghost Data
Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr
2
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Posted - 2012.04.11 17:12:00 -
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Angel HUN wrote:bucktooth wrote:Either ive been to account management and i am a fool and cant find the redeem for new gfx card, or i didnt get home from work early enough... Or you cannot read Dates.
No word of a lie, my computer is showing 12/4/2012 lol |
Spc One
The Chodak
Void Alliance
18
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Posted - 2012.04.11 17:17:00 -
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bucktooth wrote:Angel HUN wrote:bucktooth wrote:Either ive been to account management and i am a fool and cant find the redeem for new gfx card, or i didnt get home from work early enough... Or you cannot read Dates. No word of a lie, my computer is showing 12/4/2012 lol
I guess they meant eve time.
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EvilweaselFinance
BUTTECORP INC
Goonswarm Federation
23
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Posted - 2012.04.11 17:17:00 -
[38] - Quote
Bienator II wrote:
the problem with this calculation is that nobody will buy 20 plex to purchase a graphics card. They have them already and you can' make them to money anyway... so this is a quite good offer actually.
yeah
gonna start calculating my net worth in video cards |
gfldex
458
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Posted - 2012.04.11 17:19:00 -
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Well done. PLEX went up by 25M in 1 hours. Driving bitter vets out of the game is the way forward!
When someone burns down your sandcaste, bring sausages. |
Shinzann
Dead poets society
The Laughing Men
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Posted - 2012.04.11 17:20:00 -
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Menzisu Uiru wrote:And cue the plex price skyrocket.
It spiked to above 550M during the keynote for a few minutes in Jita |
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Shinzann
Dead poets society
The Laughing Men
2
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Posted - 2012.04.11 17:22:00 -
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Neat offer... except that it's cheaper for me to go to the local parts store and buy the card than to buy the PLEX to get the card. And I would have to buy the PLEX because I'm not that rich in game. |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
Comic Mischief
574
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Posted - 2012.04.11 17:23:00 -
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I just checked the e-bay price on these cards: $140. Thats $14 per billion ISK, for all those who want dollars instead of ISK.
http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
306
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Posted - 2012.04.11 17:26:00 -
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gfldex wrote:Well done. PLEX went up by 25M in 1 hours. Driving bitter vets out of the game is the way forward!
There was a mass rush on plex during the fanfest live broadcast. So now there's a 2nd rush because of the dev blog? I think a lot of people are going to have too many extra plex on their hands.
To the whiners :-áCCP Soundwave "Incursions are not a big issue in terms of isk globally"
CCP Recurve "However, Incursions are not the biggest ISK faucet, bounties are"
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TorTorden
NorCorp Enterprise
No Holes Barred
25
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Posted - 2012.04.11 17:30:00 -
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- This card although a great card, is mere weeks from being replaced by the gtx 660.
The higher end 680 card has been in the wild for a month already and the midrange series won't be far behind.
- Even if you have the ISK in your wallet the math still doesn't favor this deal, you are better off just paying your sub and saving your real money, honestly the only crowd where this deal makes sense are for RMT botters. (CCP\nvidia facepalm moment)
- Finally some deuche bag politician is going to see the PR for this and start some new push about the various governments should tax our ingame currency since we can convert into a real-word item.
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gfldex
458
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Posted - 2012.04.11 17:30:00 -
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J3ssica Alba wrote:There was a mass rush on plex during the fanfest live broadcast. So now there's a 2nd rush because of the dev blog? I think a lot of people are going to have too many extra plex on their hands.
They could sell them for 50M more ... after 1 1/2 h after dev blogging. The whining will be ENDLESS!
When someone burns down your sandcaste, bring sausages. |
ITSaSPY
Perkone
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.04.11 17:31:00 -
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Bienator II wrote:ITSaSPY wrote:Let me just look at these numbers.
Currently the average price for these kinds of graphics cards (average GTX 560, EVGA version: 10 euro more than average) is about 150 euro at the closest store to my house.
20 plex is about (15x20) 300 euro.
So basicly if I use plex I would pay twice the money I would need when I'd pay using ... well, money.
I don't like the deal. the problem with this calculation is that nobody will buy 20 plex to purchase a graphics card. They have them already and you can' make them to money anyway... so this is a quite good offer actually.
That's not a problem with the calculation. The calculation just shows the difference between the value of the thing you trade in vs. the thing you get. Basicly its a horrible deal. No matter if you have 2.000 plex laying around, that doesn't change the value of either the card or your plex. It's still a bad deal, no matter if you can afford it or not.
You could spend the plex on extending your EVE account for a long time, or multiple accounts even. |
Fiapo
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.04.11 17:34:00 -
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So all the customs and other taxes are paid by CCP or do we need to pay for those as well? |
Spc One
The Chodak
Void Alliance
18
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Posted - 2012.04.11 17:40:00 -
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Fiapo wrote:So all the customs and other taxes are paid by CCP or do we need to pay for those as well?
Interesting question.
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Mashie Saldana
Veto.
Veto Corp
469
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Posted - 2012.04.11 17:49:00 -
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Shinzann wrote:Neat offer... except that it's cheaper for me to go to the local parts store and buy the card than to buy the PLEX to get the card. And I would have to buy the PLEX because I'm not that rich in game.
This offer isn't aimed at you but those with massive amounts of in game money but not much of a real income out of game.
CCP, does this mean I can start selling old nVidia cards on the forums for PLEX?
Dominique Vasilkovsky
Mashie Saldana
Monica Foulkes |
EvilweaselFinance
BUTTECORP INC
Goonswarm Federation
25
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Posted - 2012.04.11 17:59:00 -
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Mashie Saldana wrote:Shinzann wrote:Neat offer... except that it's cheaper for me to go to the local parts store and buy the card than to buy the PLEX to get the card. And I would have to buy the PLEX because I'm not that rich in game. This offer isn't aimed at you but those with massive amounts of in game money but not much of a real income out of game. CCP, does this mean I can start selling old nVidia cards on the forums for PLEX? Was thinking 40 PLEX for a GTX 580. 
i have massive amounts of ingame money, and plenty of out of game money, but i like out of game money more than i like my ingame money |
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Ticarus Hellbrandt
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2012.04.11 18:01:00 -
[51] - Quote
Shop - -ú130
Plex x 20 - -ú330 |
leviticus ander
CATO.nss
145
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Posted - 2012.04.11 18:05:00 -
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to those of you that are saying "oh, CCP is ripping you off, there's a new model coming out in a month" yes, there's a new model coming out in a month. but the 560 is still quite a nice card, and I doubt there are many if any other games where you can buy upgrade hardware for your computer with the in-game currency.
and people are saying "oh, I could go buy the card twice for the same price", well if you could, then why don't you and leave this offer to those that the offer is directed at, the people with lots of isk, but little spare money. also, it's unlikely that CCP got these cards for free, so they need to cover the cost of the cards, cover shipping+handling, taxes, import fees, and still if possible make a profit. I mean sure, they could have probably made it selling them for 13-15 plex, but they decided higher. I'd say, take the offer and be appreciative that it's been made. |
Zowie Powers
Hole in the wall
70
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Posted - 2012.04.11 18:07:00 -
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If the price of plex ever falls low, consider bulk buying gas and electricity and selling it to us for plex.
How about a deal with Dominos while you're at it?
In fact, why don't you just buy them off us for cash? |
Hans Momaki
State War Academy
Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2012.04.11 18:07:00 -
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Camios wrote:
Moreover it's clear that CCP cannot sell an unlimited number of cards through this offer, otherwise it would turn this into a way to "cash out" to its customers, like sort of a poker website.
No, it's not. CCP Can buy GTX 560 at (I assume) something arround 100Gé¼, selling for 270 via plex is awesome deal for CCP too.
They could do even more out of it, Buying all kinds of stuff blablabla.. hell yeah, why not do something like a plex for Real Life store...? Oh wait...
Edit says: MY IDEA, MY COPYRIGHT! :P |
Zowie Powers
Hole in the wall
70
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Posted - 2012.04.11 18:08:00 -
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Ticarus Hellbrandt wrote:Shop - -ú130
Plex x 20 - -ú330
Plex RL value depends on the number of bots you're running. |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
666
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Posted - 2012.04.11 18:12:00 -
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ITSaSPY wrote:Bienator II wrote:ITSaSPY wrote:Let me just look at these numbers.
Currently the average price for these kinds of graphics cards (average GTX 560, EVGA version: 10 euro more than average) is about 150 euro at the closest store to my house.
20 plex is about (15x20) 300 euro.
So basicly if I use plex I would pay twice the money I would need when I'd pay using ... well, money.
I don't like the deal. the problem with this calculation is that nobody will buy 20 plex to purchase a graphics card. They have them already and you can' make them to money anyway... so this is a quite good offer actually. That's not a problem with the calculation. The calculation just shows the difference between the value of the thing you trade in vs. the thing you get. Basicly its a horrible deal. No matter if you have 2.000 plex laying around, that doesn't change the value of either the card or your plex. It's still a bad deal, no matter if you can afford it or not. You could spend the plex on extending your EVE account for a long time, or multiple accounts even.
sure you could. If you have that already you can now request a graphics card.
a eve-style bounty system https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=359105
You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |
TorTorden
NorCorp Enterprise
No Holes Barred
25
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Posted - 2012.04.11 18:17:00 -
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Bienator II wrote:ITSaSPY wrote:Bienator II wrote:ITSaSPY wrote:Let me just look at these numbers.
Currently the average price for these kinds of graphics cards (average GTX 560, EVGA version: 10 euro more than average) is about 150 euro at the closest store to my house.
20 plex is about (15x20) 300 euro.
So basicly if I use plex I would pay twice the money I would need when I'd pay using ... well, money.
I don't like the deal. the problem with this calculation is that nobody will buy 20 plex to purchase a graphics card. They have them already and you can' make them to money anyway... so this is a quite good offer actually. That's not a problem with the calculation. The calculation just shows the difference between the value of the thing you trade in vs. the thing you get. Basicly its a horrible deal. No matter if you have 2.000 plex laying around, that doesn't change the value of either the card or your plex. It's still a bad deal, no matter if you can afford it or not. You could spend the plex on extending your EVE account for a long time, or multiple accounts even. sure you could. If you have that already you can now request a graphics card.
Im sure this deal makes perfect sense to all the small time manufacturers who's convinced trit and pyerite is free since they mine it themselves. |
Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
63
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Posted - 2012.04.11 18:29:00 -
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Quote:CCP-¦s decision on any sale is final, except when said decision is voided by applicable law
Fixed it for you.
By the way, have you run this through your bartender/lawyer?
It is beyond easy to argue that PLEX are in fact money, given that the only way that a PLEX can be introduced is by redeeming a 'voucher', aka. GTC --> Which makes this a straight purchase .. over the internet .. I'll have my European 14 day right of withdrawal please.
Non-refundable my ass 
Just sayin' |
Skye Aurorae
Viziam
Amarr Empire
234
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Posted - 2012.04.11 18:35:00 -
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I approve of this offer, indeed, if I didn't already have a modern card I'd be participating. I hope to see more of these offers in the future.
Skye Aurora is a 7 year old Girl Who Wants to be on the CSM!
Unfortunately, the Lawyers say you have to be 21, so..
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EvilweaselFinance
BUTTECORP INC
Goonswarm Federation
27
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Posted - 2012.04.11 18:39:00 -
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TorTorden wrote:
Im sure this deal makes perfect sense to all the small time manufacturers who's convinced trit and pyerite is free since they mine it themselves.
my assets are worth enough isk to plex my four accounts for approximately 8.3 years, at a conservative estimate |
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