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Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
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Posted - 2012.04.12 11:39:00 -
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Alpheias wrote:For the same sake of argument, I can spin it around and ask you how much are you prepared to pay for a product that is close to a year old? I've already answered that question. I'm perfectly willing to pay 20 PLEX for it. I'd even buy two.
Alpheias wrote:Even if I am paying with internet spaceship money, I do feel like I am being ripped off. Because you value your internet spaceship money more than the card. Whereas I do not.
Even if I look at the time it takes me to make the 10b for the 20 PLEX versus the time it takes me to make -ú100 in real life, this offer still wins. But I fully understand that isn't the case for the average EVE player.
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Alpheias
Euphoria Released
595
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Posted - 2012.04.12 12:08:00 -
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Bad Bobby wrote: I've already answered that question. I'm perfectly willing to pay 20 PLEX for it. I'd even buy two.
I'd be perfectly willing to sell you a 560 for 20 plex. Hell, I'll even sell you two.
Bad Bobby wrote: Even if I look at the time it takes me to make the 10b for the 20 PLEX versus the time it takes me to make -ú100 in real life, this offer still wins. But I fully understand that isn't the case for the average EVE player.
Not really, just as I can afford my decadent lifestyle, I also recognize a bad deal when I see them. Even averagely intelligent people, regardless of income, would too. I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more |
Leah Mendez
8 Star Group
0
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Posted - 2012.04.12 13:04:00 -
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Alpheias wrote:Bad Bobby wrote: I've already answered that question. I'm perfectly willing to pay 20 PLEX for it. I'd even buy two.
I'd be perfectly willing to sell you a 560 for 20 plex. Hell, I'll even sell you two. Bad Bobby wrote: Even if I look at the time it takes me to make the 10b for the 20 PLEX versus the time it takes me to make -ú100 in real life, this offer still wins. But I fully understand that isn't the case for the average EVE player.
Not really, just as I can afford my decadent lifestyle, I also recognize a bad deal when I see them. Even averagely intelligent people, regardless of income, would too.
No you wouldn't. Or better yet you could but it would violate EULA - as in REAL MONEY TRADING. Accounts banned and whatnot if it would ever surface.
This offer however is legit in terms of eula. Still just regard it as an offer take it or leave it. CCP isnt really making any money off it at least not directly.
Some market analyst could say if the rising of PLEX prices has the potential of giving CCP any financial gain. But other than that CCP payed $ while the player pay ISK. If you have enough ISK stashed somewhere this offer might be nice. Otherwise it really isnt advised to BUY plex from ccp to get the board ;)
I for one will not pay since already got a better card. But for some it might be valuable. |
Doc Banshee
Baby Seal Bashing Club Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
2
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Posted - 2012.04.12 13:08:00 -
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Alpheias wrote:Bad Bobby wrote: I've already answered that question. I'm perfectly willing to pay 20 PLEX for it. I'd even buy two.
I'd be perfectly willing to sell you a 560 for 20 plex. Hell, I'll even sell you two. Bad Bobby wrote: Even if I look at the time it takes me to make the 10b for the 20 PLEX versus the time it takes me to make -ú100 in real life, this offer still wins. But I fully understand that isn't the case for the average EVE player.
Not really, just as I can afford my decadent lifestyle, I also recognize a bad deal when I see them. Even averagely intelligent people, regardless of income, would too.
I think it would be an EULA violation if I bought a 560 from you. But if CCP wouldn't mind, I would buy 10 from you right now.
Now I don't know how your wallet looks. But for a lot of us, 20 plexes is basically peanuts.
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Alpheias
Euphoria Released
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Posted - 2012.04.12 13:12:00 -
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Doc Banshee wrote: Now I don't know how your wallet looks. But for a lot of us, 20 plexes is basically peanuts.
It is peanuts. But the point is that it is a old card (a rather bad one too) and that doesn't make much sense why you'd buy one, for plex or rl money.
I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more |
Doc Banshee
Baby Seal Bashing Club Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
2
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Posted - 2012.04.12 13:25:00 -
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Alpheias wrote:Doc Banshee wrote: Now I don't know how your wallet looks. But for a lot of us, 20 plexes is basically peanuts.
It is peanuts. But the point is that it is a old card (a rather bad one too) and that doesn't make much sense why you'd buy one, for plex or rl money.
Because it's better than the gfx I currently have Because I'm spacerich And because I can.
The same reason why I would buy a completely useless supercarrier *cough revenant*. Just because I can. |
Alpheias
Euphoria Released
595
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Posted - 2012.04.12 13:31:00 -
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Doc Banshee wrote:Alpheias wrote:Doc Banshee wrote: Now I don't know how your wallet looks. But for a lot of us, 20 plexes is basically peanuts.
It is peanuts. But the point is that it is a old card (a rather bad one too) and that doesn't make much sense why you'd buy one, for plex or rl money. Because it's better than the gfx I currently have Because I'm spacerich And because I can. The same reason why I would buy a completely useless supercarrier *cough revenant*. Just because I can.
Tell me, how much (RL) money do you have right now to blow on a graphics card? I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more |
Desmont McCallock
160
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Posted - 2012.04.12 14:01:00 -
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Doc has stated what gfx has in previous post. Go read that.
I'm currently at the same pace as Doc. I have an old gfx, I can't afford to buy a new one (crisis has me unemployed at the moment) and "I'm spacerich" (quoting Doc). This is a very good opportunity for me to upgrade my rig at no cost for me, no matter if the rest of you find that gfx not worthy. |
Alpheias
Euphoria Released
596
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Posted - 2012.04.12 14:17:00 -
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Desmont McCallock wrote:Doc has stated what gfx has in previous post. Go read that.
I'm currently at the same pace as Doc. I have an old gfx, I can't afford to buy a new one (crisis has me unemployed at the moment) and "I'm spacerich" (quoting Doc). This is a very good opportunity for me to upgrade my rig at no cost for me, no matter if the rest of you find that gfx not worthy.
I saw that now.
And fair enough, but just do a bit of research so you know what you actually get.
tl;dr - the 560($180\-ú136) is a overclocked 460 (about $130\-ú115) and so, you'd save more on buying the 460. I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
270
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Posted - 2012.04.12 14:39:00 -
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Alpheias wrote:Not really, just as I can afford my decadent lifestyle, I also recognize a bad deal when I see them. Even averagely intelligent people, regardless of income, would too. you're not very intelligent and you keep beating your head against a wall because you don't understand pretty basic stuff here
past a certain point in this game isk is effectively worthless: all you can do with it is make more isk: so when you have a chance to exchange 10b isk for a video card that's basically a free video card from a marginal utility perspective |
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Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
270
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Posted - 2012.04.12 14:40:00 -
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even if it's not a great video card i could then pawn it on ebay or something and presto i have something more valuable than space money: real money |
Desmont McCallock
160
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Posted - 2012.04.12 14:42:00 -
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Whatever I get is better than what I have. Saving RL money presupposes that you have RL money to spend, which I haven't. |
Fiapo
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.04.12 14:48:00 -
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No matter what people say in here those cards will probably sell in 10-20min or even less then that so yeah the price is double from the current market price but it's a nice addition from people that cant afford a new upgrade. |
DeODokktor
Dark Templars The Fonz Presidium
6
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Posted - 2012.04.12 15:03:00 -
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Leah Mendez wrote: CCP isnt really making any money off it at least not directly.
They are selling tops 150$ worth of gear (It's probably 100 OEM units with a fine discount) and removing 350$ worth of liability from their books. They will probably $20k or so out of it, not a lot in the scheme of things, but it's enough to say that they are making something out of it. |
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
589
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Posted - 2012.04.12 15:07:00 -
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Retar Aveymone wrote:past a certain point in this game isk is effectively worthless: all you can do with it is make more isk: so when you have a chance to exchange 10b isk for a video card that's basically a free video card from a marginal utility perspective This.
I'm just annoyed it doesn't come with anything. Even if it just came with a little collectible item or a custom Eve design on the cooler I'd have been spamming that account page to try and buy one
So I guess that leaves... plex for stuff on the Eve-o store? I want me one of them winmatar key chains.
--Will Support Your Terrible Forum Thread For ISK-- |
Night Wallker
Bulgarian Experienced Crackers GaNg BaNg TeAm
0
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Posted - 2012.04.12 15:11:00 -
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LOL
Quote:The EVE Online Account Management site is currently undergoing maintenance. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.
...so now what ? |
malaire
339
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Posted - 2012.04.12 15:13:00 -
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Night Wallker wrote:LOL Quote:The EVE Online Account Management site is currently undergoing maintenance. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. ...so now what ? Still allmost hour before 16:00 - they are probably now adding this offer. New to EVE? Don't forget to read: The Manual * The Wiki * The Career Options * and everything else |
Alpheias
Euphoria Released
596
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Posted - 2012.04.12 15:27:00 -
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Retar Aveymone wrote:Alpheias wrote:Not really, just as I can afford my decadent lifestyle, I also recognize a bad deal when I see them. Even averagely intelligent people, regardless of income, would too. you're not very intelligent and you keep beating your head against a wall because you don't understand pretty basic stuff here past a certain point in this game isk is effectively worthless: all you can do with it is make more isk: so when you have a chance to exchange 10b isk for a video card that's basically a free video card from a marginal utility perspective
I completely agree that isk effectively becomes worthless after a certain point and there is a need for more isk sinks in the game and I can see why people are excited about it.
My feelings on the matter however it is a ripoff no matter how much you want to empathize how FREE it is, it is still a ****** graphics card and the whole concept just screams RMT. I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more |
rainman18385
SKULLDOGS RED.OverLord
2
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Posted - 2012.04.12 15:41:00 -
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well i see plex price is dropping now..so i have lost isk now as i can not stay and wait for the account management to sort it's self out..
ty ccp
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Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
270
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Posted - 2012.04.12 15:41:00 -
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Alpheias wrote:My feelings on the matter however it is a ripoff no matter how much you want to empathize how FREE it is, it is still a ****** graphics card and the whole concept just screams RMT. sure, but that's business for you: CCP has figured out a great way to seperate people from their money in a way that makes everyone happy: the guy who actually pays the $350 gets space money that for some reason he wanted to spend $350 on, CCP gets $350 for a $150 video card, and I get a video card for monopoly money
well, I would if I was getting in on this (i'd rather keep my isk in useful things and wait for a better card and enough cards I won't get stuck holding a bunch of plex and no card when I'm a second late)
I would love to pay less space money for the card but because it's space money i don't give a **** |
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Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
270
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Posted - 2012.04.12 15:43:00 -
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also this isn't an isk sink this is an isk redistribution scheme where it is redistributed from me to the idiot paying real money for space money |
malaire
339
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Posted - 2012.04.12 15:44:00 -
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15 minutes before RAGE begins ... unless Account Management comes back by then. New to EVE? Don't forget to read: The Manual * The Wiki * The Career Options * and everything else |
Ampoliros
Aperture Harmonics K162
30
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Posted - 2012.04.12 15:44:00 -
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Glad to see that CCP are so involved with player feedback on this that they gave us a whole 24 hours to discuss it before ignoring us and doing it anyway.
CCP Manifest, where art thou? |
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
270
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Posted - 2012.04.12 15:47:00 -
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Ampoliros wrote:Glad to see that CCP are so involved with player feedback on this that they gave us a whole 24 hours to discuss it before ignoring us and doing it anyway. CCP Manifest, where art thou? all the important people are 100% in favor of this plan it's the peasants who cannot even imagine 10b isk that are against this |
Hydro Gen
Rionnag Alba Northern Coalition.
0
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Posted - 2012.04.12 15:48:00 -
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10 minutes to the sale starts and the site is down |
Night Wallker
Bulgarian Experienced Crackers GaNg BaNg TeAm
0
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Posted - 2012.04.12 15:49:00 -
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I want and I need this card but I'm worried that all 100 Cards will be out for few seconds |
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
825
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Posted - 2012.04.12 15:52:00 -
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I've not read the whole thread, so apologies if this has already been raised.
If this is introduced it will effectively allow ISK to be traded for RL goods.
Have CCP considered the tax implications of this? Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |
malaire
339
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Posted - 2012.04.12 15:53:00 -
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Rodj Blake wrote:I've not read the whole thread, so apologies if this has already been raised.
If this is introduced it will effectively allow ISK to be traded for RL goods.
Have CCP considered the tax implications of this? See devblog: "Purchaser is solely responsible for determining the tax consequences, if any, associated with this offer." New to EVE? Don't forget to read: The Manual * The Wiki * The Career Options * and everything else |
Kaliba Mort
Dark-Rising
0
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Posted - 2012.04.12 15:54:00 -
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Alpheias wrote:My feelings on the matter however it is a ripoff no matter how much you want to empathize how FREE it is, it is still a ****** graphics card and the whole concept just screams RMT.
1. CCP can't do RMT, unless you want to say that playing the game is RMT - you pay CCP $$$ and they give you opportunity to earn ISK
2. This offer is reverse of redeeming your GTC or whatever for PLEX. It is not an ISK sink, it is a PLEX sink. It is like the Aurum stuff. They could have just sold video card for Aurum in the special store. It would have been equivalent.
I hope that clears it up for you.
PS. Yes, I'm probably giving CCP ideas again - Aurum for RL stuff, like Quafe or those model ships.
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Rodj Blake
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
825
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Posted - 2012.04.12 15:56:00 -
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malaire wrote:Rodj Blake wrote:I've not read the whole thread, so apologies if this has already been raised.
If this is introduced it will effectively allow ISK to be traded for RL goods.
Have CCP considered the tax implications of this? See devblog: "Purchaser is solely responsible for determining the tax consequences, if any, associated with this offer."
The problem is that even if you don't spend your ISK on RL goods, the fact that you can spend it means that tax authorities might consider the ISK you make in-game to be RL income.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |
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