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Emporors Champian
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Posted - 2008.12.24 13:02:00 -
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funny ivana,
bump this because people need to leave cloaking alone
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2008.12.25 12:06:00 -
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attempting to leave cloakers alone
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Emporors Champian
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Posted - 2008.12.26 15:01:00 -
[33]
going to bump this every day cuz i agree
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Iron Soldiers
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Posted - 2008.12.27 13:39:00 -
[34]
yeah leave cloakers alone
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Hypher
Two Brothers Mining Corp. Kraftwerk.
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Posted - 2008.12.28 22:21:00 -
[35]
Leave cloaking alone and get rid of local chat intel! ____
You should have stopped reading at the you at the beginning of this sentence. You are now reading my Sig. |

Xinala Breez
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Posted - 2008.12.31 12:18:00 -
[36]
cloaking is the onlything i can use to get around in bad areas with high trafic
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Mirei Jun
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Posted - 2008.12.31 21:56:00 -
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After much consideration, and seeing the use of cloaks steadily increasing, I have decided the best way to get this solved is to abuse the system completely. Whether you love or hate the current way cloaking works, stop what you are doing and train cloaking!
Force the system to gain as much slack as possible. This will either prove cloaking is fine as it is, or prove that it is truly unbalanced.
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Adonai Darkwind
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.01.01 12:21:00 -
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is it me or everyone misses the obvious point that cloakers with conv/recon/black ops ships should be hard to impossible to catch? Why would you want to catch everything anyway? Instead of proposing to bash the stupid local channel and give a meaning to these ships' core purpose, you want them nerfed so we can have a dull, linear game where we target, activate turrets, pop target. Yeah, that would be nice... 
Get serious. ------------------------------------------------
~ Tempus Imperator Rerum ~ |

Giribaldi
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Posted - 2009.01.02 15:37:00 -
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i would open to suggestions on cloaking ideas but currently any cloaking nerfs i see suck.
so till a better idea emurges i say cloaking is fine
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Adonai Darkwind
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.01.03 20:00:00 -
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Garibaldi was taken or you misspelled it? ------------------------------------------------
~ Tempus Imperator Rerum ~ |

Al Drevika
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Posted - 2009.01.04 02:38:00 -
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Leave cloaking as is. Whiny baby pirates need to get over it.
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Farseer Zellrenech
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Posted - 2009.01.05 08:30:00 -
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can you misspell a name? i was told its inpossible to misspell names but is there a giribaldi or garibaldi how ever you choose to spell it?
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Boma Airaken
The Divine Comedy Celestial Imperative
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Posted - 2009.01.05 11:00:00 -
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YO! Anti-cloak 0.0 alliance teenagers. I have a 6 year old kid and due to a kidney problem have to pee ALOT. I thought you wanted more people to hang out in 0.0???
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2009.01.06 09:15:00 -
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TMI hehe
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ScienceOfficer Aracelli
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Posted - 2009.01.07 04:31:00 -
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Quote: is it me or everyone misses the obvious point that cloakers with conv/recon/black ops ships should be hard to impossible to catch? Why would you want to catch everything anyway? Instead of proposing to bash the stupid local channel and give a meaning to these ships' core purpose, you want them nerfed so we can have a dull, linear game where we target, activate turrets, pop target. Yeah, that would be nice...
Get serious.
i couldnt have said it any better
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Emporors Champian
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Posted - 2009.01.08 03:59:00 -
[46]
....... |

SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2009.01.09 13:03:00 -
[47]
seen a new nerf cloaking post, this is a good reason to bump this thread. |

SniperWo1f
Omega Enterprises 0mega Factor
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Posted - 2009.01.09 14:00:00 -
[48]
i support cloakers and their right to cloak |

Sedious Bloke
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Posted - 2009.01.10 04:15:00 -
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Originally by: SpawnSupreme its easy enough to catch a cloaker if its not covert ops if its covert ops what can it do other than give intell.... if somone cloakes in enemy system hes doing it to make players paranoid and distract them from doing to much. there are lots of tactics to cloakers sometimes you have to go take a dump and a pee but your station has a bubble and a camp on it. you need to get safe for a while.
i think cloaking is to weak... i think gatesshould cloak anything within set range wether your comeing or goingif your sitting on a gate you shouldnt need a cloakcuze the gate does it for you. but just remember nothing works while cloakes so sit at gates cloak border so you can fly out and drop the bubble or do what ever you wanna do.
Not even worthy of failstamp ink |

Farseer Zellrenech
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Posted - 2009.01.11 10:42:00 -
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maybe we dont need todo anything be if the complaint get loud enough without the other side speaking up you never know |

Emporors Champian
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Posted - 2009.01.13 10:40:00 -
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cloaking is fine but i do sorta think 4 or more hours afk cloaked has to have some sort of troubles
but anything less than 3 hours is normal
withinn 3 hours you can watch a movie come back uncloak and recloak for another movie if you so choose but to all day afk cloak is an easy fix. |

Emporors Champian
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Posted - 2009.01.15 10:29:00 -
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still feel the same
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Solacc
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Posted - 2009.01.25 14:06:00 -
[53]
some good ideas out there for a change but i rather it remain same |

Shaka Quatuic
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Posted - 2009.01.25 15:11:00 -
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and you guys say the players who want to have just a small chance to catch you at a safespot (through a great deal of hard work btw) are whiners... you all really need to look in a mirror.
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Calis Kreios
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Posted - 2009.01.26 09:57:00 -
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if you cant catch a covert ops with your corp m8s then WOW is looking for a few good players to kill them evil dragons.
we do not want to hear your moans and groans, for the perpose of a covert ops is hard to catch so it may gather intell or allow a fair chance to sneek in a few blue prints into 0.0 because he cannot yet pilot a carrier or prefer to use a covop.
if there is a covert ops often there is is friends near by anyway so dont worry about covert ops for it will do little to no dps to you so you need to focus on those who are a threat.
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Calis Kreios
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Posted - 2009.01.27 11:49:00 -
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just like to point out havent seen any new cloak ideas in a couple days but you all need reminding to leave cloakers alone.
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Shaka Quatuic
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Posted - 2009.01.27 14:49:00 -
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heh you havent seen my challenge then. need I remind you that I am a cloaker myself, and have NEVER lost a cloaker to ANY camp of ANY size, and I have run some damn big ones whose members were using every trick in the current book.
In order to prove my point that cloaks need a counter, I am willing to run ANY one gate you 'dont nerf my cloak' whiners specify. your camp trying to catch me can be of ANY realistic size that can be encountered in the game (for instance no 700+ man blobs on the gate, as if you could manage to get that many) and use ANY tactics you choose. I will run the gate 6 times using cruiser class ships, once each way (coming into the system then turning around and breaking out) using each of the different cloak types. your sole objective is to prevent my escape from the camp any way you can, while the only limitation on me is that I must complete all the camp running in a single 23-hour period. you wont know which cruiser I am flying or what cloak I am using unless you manage somehow to kill it or I tell you after the run. perhaps you might catch a glimpse of me as I decloak to jump out, or re-cloak after I bust in.
yes this means that I will be risking a rapier for the covops test. it won't matter, as you will never catch it, and probably wont catch me in any of the other ships either.
as a final bonus round just for you, I will then break a typhoon through your camp to escape from the system. cloak or not it would be stupid to try to break into a camped system with a BS, so we wont go there.
here is the scoring:
if you catch me twice on the system break-in leg, you are doing pretty good, and either have enough friends or good enough tactics to catch me with a reasonable chance of sucess.
if you catch me 3 times breaking into the system, I would admit that my position that cloaks need a counter is questionable, but that doubt would depend on whether you got me with sheer numbers (luck) or actually used tactics.
catch me all 3 times breaking in, and catch me breaking out either 1) twice using non-covops ships or 2) ONCE using the rapier and I will abandon any and all argument that cloaks need a counter, and will stop posting on the subject entirely.
if you kill the BS - CONGRATULATIONS!!! If you cant catch a cloaked BS at a gatecamp you must REALLY suck!
any takers?
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lebrata
Hedion University
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Posted - 2009.01.27 15:24:00 -
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Originally by: Shaka Quatuic heh you havent seen my challenge then. need I remind you that I am a cloaker myself, and have NEVER lost a cloaker to ANY camp of ANY size, and I have run some damn big ones whose members were using every trick in the current book.
Really.....
Originally by: Shaka Quatuic yes this means that I will be risking a rapier for the covops test.
A rapier like this one?.
http://www.battleclinic.com/eve_online/pk/view.php?type=player&name=Shaka+Quatuic&id=4669175&page=1&filter=losses#mail
Or a cov ops like this one?.
http://www.battleclinic.com/eve_online/pk/view.php?type=player&name=Shaka+Quatuic&id=4225489&page=2&filter=losses#fitting
Or a typhoon with a cloak like this one?.
http://www.battleclinic.com/eve_online/pk/view.php?type=player&name=Shaka+Quatuic&id=3782936&page=1&filter=losses#fitting
Or this one?.
http://www.battleclinic.com/eve_online/pk/view.php?type=player&name=Shaka+Quatuic&id=3657996&page=1&filter=losses#fitting
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Shaka Quatuic
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Posted - 2009.01.27 15:45:00 -
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Edited by: Shaka Quatuic on 27/01/2009 15:46:02
I wasnt running camps at those times... lol
I can actually give you precise details on exactly what I was doing when I died each and every time...
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Shaka Quatuic
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Posted - 2009.01.27 15:57:00 -
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Edited by: Shaka Quatuic on 27/01/2009 16:06:45 Edited by: Shaka Quatuic on 27/01/2009 16:03:43
Originally by: lebrata
Originally by: Shaka Quatuic heh you havent seen my challenge then. need I remind you that I am a cloaker myself, and have NEVER lost a cloaker to ANY camp of ANY size, and I have run some damn big ones whose members were using every trick in the current book.
Really.....
Originally by: Shaka Quatuic yes this means that I will be risking a rapier for the covops test.
A rapier like this one?.
http://www.battleclinic.com/eve_online/pk/view.php?type=player&name=Shaka+Quatuic&id=4669175&page=1&filter=losses#mail
I was on a defense op CAMPING a gate when I lost that one. decloaked to kill the sabre, got whacked instead. you see, there is this tactic of having a dedicated tab on the overview set to show only ships of a certain type? the moment I decloaked to hit the sabre I got primaried. I wasnt trying to hide... matter of fact I got praise for having the balls of steel to decloak a force recon under those circumstances. YOU FAIL
Quote: Or a cov ops like this one?.
http://www.battleclinic.com/eve_online/pk/view.php?type=player&name=Shaka+Quatuic&id=4225489&page=2&filter=losses#fitting
that loss happened way back when I was living around orvolle... went scanning in 0.0, decided to stop to salvage a tasty T2 cruiser wreck, got jumped by a bomber. once again I WASNT TRYING TO HIDE... YOU FAIL.
Quote: Or a typhoon with a cloak like this one?.
http://www.battleclinic.com/eve_online/pk/view.php?type=player&name=Shaka+Quatuic&id=3782936&page=1&filter=losses#fitting
got jumped on ENTRY to a system - like I said above, cloak or not it is next to impossible to break INTO a system that is camped when you are flying a battleship solo. YOU FAIL AGAIN!
Quote: Or this one?.
http://www.battleclinic.com/eve_online/pk/view.php?type=player&name=Shaka+Quatuic&id=3657996&page=1&filter=losses#fitting
same situation as the previous typhoon loss. see I have a habit of using typhoons as a poor-mans Marauder (which I am sure is quite common). and when in 0.0, s**t happens. none of your examples do anything to tarnish my skill with cloaks. you sir are full of FAIL. ^^
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