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Lentia
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Posted - 2004.07.18 21:39:00 -
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I started off as a miner, then as a hunter. It was not for at least 9 months that I got into the PvP aspect of the game. The Scorp and BB are designed for specifically that part of it. If youre not into PvP fine, dont get a Scorp or BB thats all, but dont as a 3 week noob try and tell us that they are useless, it makes you look arrogant.
Lentia Military Officer http://www.staf.online-guild.com/ |

Lentia
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Posted - 2004.07.18 21:39:00 -
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I started off as a miner, then as a hunter. It was not for at least 9 months that I got into the PvP aspect of the game. The Scorp and BB are designed for specifically that part of it. If youre not into PvP fine, dont get a Scorp or BB thats all, but dont as a 3 week noob try and tell us that they are useless, it makes you look arrogant.
Lentia Military Officer http://www.staf.online-guild.com/ |

Detaurus
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Posted - 2004.07.18 21:46:00 -
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Ill just pick another race then. I am just tired of every MMORPG I play, I pick something, it is completely screwed up and 'good in groups of 50'. Im not paying for this damn game to help any 'group' buy better ships, im playing this game for me only. Balance should be emphasized across the board, on each level of ship for any type of player.
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Detaurus
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Posted - 2004.07.18 21:46:00 -
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Ill just pick another race then. I am just tired of every MMORPG I play, I pick something, it is completely screwed up and 'good in groups of 50'. Im not paying for this damn game to help any 'group' buy better ships, im playing this game for me only. Balance should be emphasized across the board, on each level of ship for any type of player.
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2004.07.18 21:48:00 -
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Edited by: Gariuys on 18/07/2004 21:50:32 translation: all ships should be the same, cause I can't be arsed to train for another races ships.
Edit: The non flamming version of that is, if you don't like Caldari ships train to use other ships your in no way forced to fly Caldari ships. ~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~ A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool |

Gariuys
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Posted - 2004.07.18 21:48:00 -
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Edited by: Gariuys on 18/07/2004 21:50:32 translation: all ships should be the same, cause I can't be arsed to train for another races ships.
Edit: The non flamming version of that is, if you don't like Caldari ships train to use other ships your in no way forced to fly Caldari ships. ~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~ A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool |

Detaurus
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Posted - 2004.07.18 21:52:00 -
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Dont give me that, a great deal of effort is given with MOST ships to make them equivalent between the Races.
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Detaurus
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Posted - 2004.07.18 21:52:00 -
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Dont give me that, a great deal of effort is given with MOST ships to make them equivalent between the Races.
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2004.07.18 21:55:00 -
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Equivalent? HELL NO, balanced, yes. ~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~ A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool |

Gariuys
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Posted - 2004.07.18 21:55:00 -
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Equivalent? HELL NO, balanced, yes. ~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~ A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool |

Detaurus
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Posted - 2004.07.18 21:58:00 -
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Do not tempt me
Entry: balanced Function: adjective Definition: equalized Synonyms: counterbalanced, equitable, equivalent, evened, fair, just, offset, proportional, stabilized, symmetrical, uniform Antonyms: disproportionate, imbalanced, unequal, unsymmetrical Concept: equivalence Source: Roget's New MillenniumÖ Thesaurus, First Edition (v 1.0.5)
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Detaurus
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Posted - 2004.07.18 21:58:00 -
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Do not tempt me
Entry: balanced Function: adjective Definition: equalized Synonyms: counterbalanced, equitable, equivalent, evened, fair, just, offset, proportional, stabilized, symmetrical, uniform Antonyms: disproportionate, imbalanced, unequal, unsymmetrical Concept: equivalence Source: Roget's New MillenniumÖ Thesaurus, First Edition (v 1.0.5)
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2004.07.18 22:00:00 -
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nvm, I shouldn't have tried. ~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~ A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool |

Gariuys
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Posted - 2004.07.18 22:00:00 -
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nvm, I shouldn't have tried. ~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~ A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool |

Lentia
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Posted - 2004.07.18 22:06:00 -
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If you want a damage dealing Caldari cruiser try a Caracal (still my favorite ship cus it looks cool), use kinetic missles and at least one ballistic mod and you will tear anytning up from any distance. Make sure your missle skills are maxed.
Lentia Military Officer http://www.staf.online-guild.com/ |

Lentia
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Posted - 2004.07.18 22:06:00 -
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If you want a damage dealing Caldari cruiser try a Caracal (still my favorite ship cus it looks cool), use kinetic missles and at least one ballistic mod and you will tear anytning up from any distance. Make sure your missle skills are maxed.
Lentia Military Officer http://www.staf.online-guild.com/ |

JoCool
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Posted - 2004.07.18 22:15:00 -
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Detaurus, you seem to have absolutely no idea about anything.
The Scorpion is the only battleship I fear to take on, it's one of the most dangerous ships out there.
And the Blackbird IS the best cruiser of ALL, hands down.
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JoCool
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Posted - 2004.07.18 22:15:00 -
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Detaurus, you seem to have absolutely no idea about anything.
The Scorpion is the only battleship I fear to take on, it's one of the most dangerous ships out there.
And the Blackbird IS the best cruiser of ALL, hands down.
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Darkwolf
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Posted - 2004.07.18 22:25:00 -
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Originally by: Detaurus Yep thats why everyone is discussing Scorpion and blackbird setups on this board, lol. You just hate people that call it as they see it.
http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame78.html
The Scorpion is the best PvP battleship in the game. Cheap, powerful, and with a good damage output, as well as being highly versatile.
The Blackbird is the best PvP cruiser in the game. Cheap, powerful, an excellent EW platform, and is quite versatile.
The reason why you see so many people asking about Scorp and BB configs isn't because they're gimped, it's because they're so uber every noob in the bloody game is jumping into one.
Oh, and next time you ask a question, how about you actually LISTEN to the responses, instead of just jabbering on? EW is immensely powerful for player-versus-player combat, and Scorpions are the best platform for EW in the entire game.
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Darkwolf
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Posted - 2004.07.18 22:25:00 -
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Originally by: Detaurus Yep thats why everyone is discussing Scorpion and blackbird setups on this board, lol. You just hate people that call it as they see it.
http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame78.html
The Scorpion is the best PvP battleship in the game. Cheap, powerful, and with a good damage output, as well as being highly versatile.
The Blackbird is the best PvP cruiser in the game. Cheap, powerful, an excellent EW platform, and is quite versatile.
The reason why you see so many people asking about Scorp and BB configs isn't because they're gimped, it's because they're so uber every noob in the bloody game is jumping into one.
Oh, and next time you ask a question, how about you actually LISTEN to the responses, instead of just jabbering on? EW is immensely powerful for player-versus-player combat, and Scorpions are the best platform for EW in the entire game.
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Sphalerite
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Posted - 2004.07.18 22:42:00 -
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The only things that BBs and Scorps are bad at is mining. If you aren't happy with the Caldari ships then train up something else. or make a new character. You're only 3 weeks old.
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Sphalerite
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Posted - 2004.07.18 22:42:00 -
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The only things that BBs and Scorps are bad at is mining. If you aren't happy with the Caldari ships then train up something else. or make a new character. You're only 3 weeks old.
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2004.07.18 22:50:00 -
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Detaurus, you are too new and dim to know anything. I'd accept the advice of people who know more than you, rather than spout off dictionary definitions in a rapidly nosediving grasp at relevance.
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2004.07.18 22:50:00 -
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Detaurus, you are too new and dim to know anything. I'd accept the advice of people who know more than you, rather than spout off dictionary definitions in a rapidly nosediving grasp at relevance.
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Detaurus
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Posted - 2004.07.18 23:22:00 -
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So then you would all agree that in PVE blackbird and Scorpion are completely underpowered in comparison to other Ships? I did not know about the ECM vs NPC nerf until about 2 days ago when I read the patch notes, so in PVE they are completely useless. What is the equivalent uselessness in a ship for PVP then? I was under the impression, after reading the patch notes, that equity between the classes ie "damage per capacitor per second' was an important aspect. Why should it be then? Just say this battleship is for this, this is for that, why the move to DPS equalization?
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Detaurus
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Posted - 2004.07.18 23:22:00 -
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So then you would all agree that in PVE blackbird and Scorpion are completely underpowered in comparison to other Ships? I did not know about the ECM vs NPC nerf until about 2 days ago when I read the patch notes, so in PVE they are completely useless. What is the equivalent uselessness in a ship for PVP then? I was under the impression, after reading the patch notes, that equity between the classes ie "damage per capacitor per second' was an important aspect. Why should it be then? Just say this battleship is for this, this is for that, why the move to DPS equalization?
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O Ren
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Posted - 2004.07.18 23:29:00 -
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Edited by: O Ren on 18/07/2004 23:30:16
Originally by: Darkwolf
http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame78.html
LOL 
Detaurus, stop now because with every post you are proving to everyone what a ignorant jerk you are.
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O Ren
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Posted - 2004.07.18 23:29:00 -
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Edited by: O Ren on 18/07/2004 23:30:16
Originally by: Darkwolf
http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame78.html
LOL 
Detaurus, stop now because with every post you are proving to everyone what a ignorant jerk you are.
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Frost88
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Posted - 2004.07.18 23:31:00 -
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Blackbirds and Caracals are the most used cruisers in pvp. They both have only two low slots and weakest armour of the races. 5 his? mmm damage, 6 meds? mmm versatility...
Look beyond the stats. ------------------------------------------------ I've always owned Kehmor, cheap as chips off Ebay
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Frost88
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Posted - 2004.07.18 23:31:00 -
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Blackbirds and Caracals are the most used cruisers in pvp. They both have only two low slots and weakest armour of the races. 5 his? mmm damage, 6 meds? mmm versatility...
Look beyond the stats. ------------------------------------------------ I've always owned Kehmor, cheap as chips off Ebay
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