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Cleopatra's Shroud
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Posted - 2008.12.20 23:39:00 -
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Hi guys, i think that we should boycott all these ridiculous prices. Now, if you are in desperate need of a GTC topup, for example 1-2 days left till you account times out, by all means buy a GTC if it means that much to you (paying over the odds). Personally, the past few days ive been advertising WTB offers at 550Mill, late at night when things are quiet and people are willing to sell ASAP for their isk. These prices must have made an impression, as for the past 2 days people have been buying/selling them at that price, then all of a sudden they are selling at 620-650 because people are buying them. I propose, that people who aren't in urgent need for a GTC wait/sleep it off until prices drop. I keep hearing the prices are so high because of "supply and demand". The funny thing is i ALWAYS hear this from the SELLER and NEVER from the buyer. Its pure and simply an excuse, as long time players are sure to remember, we used to get 30day GTC's for approx 150-200 mill and 90day GTC's for a mere 400 mill. Now we are paying 600mill+ for 60 day GTC's. Less time on eve, for MORE of our hard earned ISK. I say WE stop letting these people rob us blind, and refuse to buy their GTC's at their shocking prices, or at least stand together and refuse to pay over 500mill for them. At least at 500mill, we are getting the GTC's cheaper than they currently are, and the sellers are getting 100mill more profit than they did on 90day GTC's. If GM's decide i should move this to another part of the forum then i have no problem with it. Ive went from having 4 accounts to having one, and this is losing money for CCP also, so is as much as their sake as anyone elses. STOP LETTING SELLERS DICTATE PRICES, AND LETS DICTATE TO THEM A MAXIMUM PRICE FOR 60D GTC's!!!! Please spread the word of this cause wether its by linking or copying and pasting this message (as this may be deleted soon). GM's...If need be, move this thread to another part of the forum, plz do not delete!.
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Aioa
Planetary Assault Systems
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Posted - 2008.12.20 23:40:00 -
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Jakooni
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Posted - 2008.12.20 23:47:00 -
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wts 60d gtc 499m?
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Ironnight
Caldari
x13
X13 Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.20 23:47:00 -
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Dont want to read that wall of text, but if you dont like the price, stop buying, but for the love of god stop crying.
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Cleopatra's Shroud
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Posted - 2008.12.20 23:49:00 -
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Obvious that Ironnsight is a seller.
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Jovoich
Infestation.
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Posted - 2008.12.20 23:50:00 -
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Captain.... She can't take it anymore...... the wall 'O' text is going to catch us!
I call 'Bull****' CCP. Isn't it great that the alchemy process was introduced & can 'take up the slack?' |
Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N.
The Firm.
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Posted - 2008.12.20 23:51:00 -
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it obvious? He said exactly what you did but in 100th as many words:
if you don't like the price, stop buying
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Epegi Givo
Amarr
Tundra Wolf.
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Posted - 2008.12.21 00:02:00 -
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 Originally by: Cleopatra's Shroud
Hi guys, i think that we should boycott all these ridiculous prices. Now, if you are in desperate need of a GTC topup, for example 1-2 days left till you account times out, by all means buy a GTC if it means that much to you (paying over the odds). Personally, the past few days ive been advertising WTB offers at 550Mill, late at night when things are quiet and people are willing to sell ASAP for their isk. These prices must have made an impression, as for the past 2 days people have been buying/selling them at that price, then all of a sudden they are selling at 620-650 because people are buying them. I propose, that people who aren't in urgent need for a GTC wait/sleep it off until prices drop. I keep hearing the prices are so high because of "supply and demand". The funny thing is i ALWAYS hear this from the SELLER and NEVER from the buyer. Its pure and simply an excuse, as long time players are sure to remember, we used to get 30day GTC's for approx 150-200 mill and 90day GTC's for a mere 400 mill. Now we are paying 600mill+ for 60 day GTC's. Less time on eve, for MORE of our hard earned ISK. I say WE stop letting these people rob us blind, and refuse to buy their GTC's at their shocking prices, or at least stand together and refuse to pay over 500mill for them. At least at 500mill, we are getting the GTC's cheaper than they currently are, and the sellers are getting 100mill more profit than they did on 90day GTC's. If GM's decide i should move this to another part of the forum then i have no problem with it. Ive went from having 4 accounts to having one, and this is losing money for CCP also, so is as much as their sake as anyone elses. STOP LETTING SELLERS DICTATE PRICES, AND LETS DICTATE TO THEM A MAXIMUM PRICE FOR 60D GTC's!!!! Please spread the word of this cause wether its by linking or copying and pasting this message (as this may be deleted soon). GM's...If need be, move this thread to another part of the forum, plz do not delete!.
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second, its about time that someone figured out how to lower prices.
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Originally by: Karrade Krise
Originally by: Epegi Givo
This is my sig, or is it?
Now the only thing I can think of are Yard Gnome Ninjas...
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Niccolado Starwalker
Shadow Templars
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Posted - 2008.12.21 00:06:00 -
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Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 21/12/2008 00:06:17
Feel free signing up on an EVE online subscription! Because if you want to buy my ETCs you will have to pay the market price!
Originally by: Dianabolic
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TimMc
Gallente
Brutal Deliverance
OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.21 00:07:00 -
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Supply and demand. Stop buying so damn many and maybe people will stop asking.
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Cleopatra's Shroud
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Posted - 2008.12.21 00:09:00 -
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Epegi, sorry about the wall of text, was essential for everyone to understand my point completely.
And as for Niccolado, im pretty sure everyone with half a brain realises your "quote" of me, is a false one.
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Zeba
Minmatar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.12.21 00:12:00 -
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Originally by: Cleopatra's Shroud
I propose, that people who aren't in urgent need for a GTC wait/sleep it off until prices drop. I keep hearing the prices are so high because of "supply and demand". The funny thing is i ALWAYS hear this from the SELLER and NEVER from the buyer.
Good advice for people with patience and thin wallets. However Eve is moastly poplulated by people with little to no patience and fat decadent wallets overflowing with isk so go figure about the "supply and demand" part. As for the last part sellers sell so they are naturally vocal also buying isk with gtc is not exactly something you want to advertise on the forums so go figure about that part too. 
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Cleopatra's Shroud
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Posted - 2008.12.21 00:18:00 -
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As for the last part sellers sell so they are naturally vocal also buying isk with gtc is not exactly something you want to advertise on the forums so go figure about that part too.
Sellers are vocal? So whats the problem with BUYERS being vocal!? Not long ago, we were buying 90 DAY GTC's for 400Mill!!! and now because of greedy individuals, we are buying LESS TIME for MORE ISK
And, just for the record, am i "ADVERTISING" anything? NO!
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Aneu Angellus
Caldari
DAB
G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.12.21 00:28:00 -
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Originally by: Cleopatra's Shroud
As for the last part sellers sell so they are naturally vocal also buying isk with gtc is not exactly something you want to advertise on the forums so go figure about that part too.
Sellers are vocal? So whats the problem with BUYERS being vocal!? Not long ago, we were buying 90 DAY GTC's for 400Mill!!! and now because of greedy individuals, we are buying LESS TIME for MORE ISK
And, just for the record, am i "ADVERTISING" anything? NO!
If you understood simple economics you would understand the reason behind the price change. Simple supply and demand. Price of GTCs go up in real world money- Less GTCs are available- Price within the game goes up since it now costs far more to buy said GTCs.
Simple, end of your rant.
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Roymundo
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Posted - 2008.12.21 00:32:00 -
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Originally by: TimMc
Supply and demand. Stop buying so damn many and maybe people will stop asking.
this.
supply and demand.
the more demand there is for a fixed level of goods the more the price will go up. but it will level off at a natural level by itself. if it keeps going up, more and more people will start selling to try to cash in on the isk bonanza.
this extra supply will drive down prices due to more competition and greater customer ability to shop around.
left a previous poster said earlier, if you don't like the price don't buy the goods.
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Zeba
Minmatar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.12.21 00:34:00 -
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Originally by: Cleopatra's Shroud
whats the problem with BUYERS being vocal!?
Absolutley nothing. They just don't care as they have tons of isk. Its like asking Bill Gates if he cares about rising gas prices. The question you should be asking yourself is not why are gtc for isk so high but instead why you can't afford it. 
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Maximum KILLDEATHRATIO
Minmatar
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.12.21 00:37:00 -
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itt nubs whine about any seller's market
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Khemul Zula
Amarr
Black Plague.
Kraftwerk.
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Posted - 2008.12.21 00:37:00 -
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Originally by: Cleopatra's Shroud
Hi guys, i think that we should boycott all these ridiculous prices. Now, if you are in desperate need of a GTC topup, for example 1-2 days left till you account times out, by all means buy a GTC if it means that much to you (paying over the odds).
I personally got this far and couldn't stop laughing long enough to read further.
Boycott! Unless you need the item, then go ahead and buy it, but otherwise boycott!
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a world without hate.
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Brea Lafail
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Posted - 2008.12.21 00:42:00 -
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I propose a minimum price of 1 billion isk per 60days for all sellers. We will be rich, gentlemen.
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.12.21 00:56:00 -
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ITT: Demand is getting uppity and thinks it can control supply to lower prices.
GB2school and sit and listen for a change, you fail in economics, english, grammar and logic.
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MooKids
Caldari
Dark Echo Engineering
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Posted - 2008.12.21 00:57:00 -
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Originally by: Cleopatra's Shroud
Epegi, sorry about the wall of text, was essential for everyone to understand my point completely.
Actually, that walloftext is what is stopping everyone from reading your point at all. Go back and make some paragraphs!
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Zeba
Minmatar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.12.21 00:59:00 -
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Why not.
Originally by: Cleopatra's Shroud
Hi guys, i think that we should boycott all these ridiculous prices. Now, if you are in desperate need of a GTC topup, for example 1-2 days left till you account times out, by all means buy a GTC if it means that much to you (paying over the odds). Personally, the past few days ive been advertising WTB offers at 550Mill, late at night when things are quiet and people are willing to sell ASAP for their isk. These prices must have made an impression, as for the past 2 days people have been buying/selling them at that price, then all of a sudden they are selling at 620-650 because people are buying them.
I propose, that people who aren't in urgent need for a GTC wait/sleep it off until prices drop. I keep hearing the prices are so high because of "supply and demand". The funny thing is i ALWAYS hear this from the SELLER and NEVER from the buyer. Its pure and simply an excuse, as long time players are sure to remember, we used to get 30day GTC's for approx 150-200 mill and 90day GTC's for a mere 400 mill. Now we are paying 600mill+ for 60 day GTC's. Less time on eve, for MORE of our hard earned ISK. I say WE stop letting these people rob us blind, and refuse to buy their GTC's at their shocking prices, or at least stand together and refuse to pay over 500mill for them.
At least at 500mill, we are getting the GTC's cheaper than they currently are, and the sellers are getting 100mill more profit than they did on 90day GTC's. If GM's decide i should move this to another part of the forum then i have no problem with it. Ive went from having 4 accounts to having one, and this is losing money for CCP also, so is as much as their sake as anyone elses. STOP LETTING SELLERS DICTATE PRICES, AND LETS DICTATE TO THEM A MAXIMUM PRICE FOR 60D GTC's!!!! Please spread the word of this cause wether its by linking or copying and pasting this message (as this may be deleted soon). GM's...If need be, move this thread to another part of the forum, plz do not delete!.
inappropriate signature. ~WeatherMan |
Cleopatra's Shroud
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Posted - 2008.12.21 01:05:00 -
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Edited by: Cleopatra''s Shroud on 21/12/2008 01:05:26
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Cleopatra's Shroud
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Posted - 2008.12.21 01:05:00 -
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Edited by: Cleopatra''s Shroud on 21/12/2008 01:06:01
Thanks for the suggestions Zeba and Mookids.
EDIT:- Sorry, double posted due to lag.
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Maximum KILLDEATHRATIO
Minmatar
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.12.21 01:06:00 -
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@ Cleopatra: http://www.investorwords.com/4470/sellers_market.html
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2008.12.21 01:07:00 -
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Supply and demand, cry more about it please. If you won't buy GTCs at the current prices, someone else will be happy to buy it instead. That's what happens when supply is much lower than demand. The correction comes when people like me start to look at the GTC market and think "hmm, maybe it's time to sell a couple"... supply increases, prices stay constant or decrease.
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Khemul Zula
Amarr
Black Plague.
Kraftwerk.
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Posted - 2008.12.21 01:09:00 -
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Originally by: Maximum KILLDEATHRATIO
@ Cleopatra: http://www.investorwords.com/4470/sellers_market.html
So the real solution is for the GTC buyers to kill each other until there are less buyers then sellers.
Sorta like highlander, but with MMO nerds instead of immortals. 
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a world without hate.
And I can picture us attacking that world,
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nekolove
Eve University
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Posted - 2008.12.21 01:25:00 -
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Edited by: nekolove on 21/12/2008 01:28:09
Is someone actually able to explain the +2x increase in demmand/supply in the last weeks? I know there is a thread were lots of reasons were discussed (economic crisis, currency fluctuation...) but not a single reason as to why such an *abrupt* change since the 90day time cards.
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Sphynx Stormlord
Gallente
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.12.21 01:29:00 -
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If you REALY think that the price for GTC's is too high, spend some rl cash and start selling them.
If you spend enough cash, then you can flood the GTC market and the prices will come down.
And you will have a LOT of isk; you could probably shop around for a titan pilot.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2008.12.21 02:13:00 -
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Edited by: MotherMoon on 21/12/2008 02:14:44
why would you use the old system when you can buy them in game now?
Originally by: Sphynx Stormlord
If you REALY think that the price for GTC's is too high, spend some rl cash and start selling them.
If you spend enough cash, then you can flood the GTC market and the prices will come down.
And you will have a LOT of isk; you could probably shop around for a titan pilot.
no then once prices are in half you use half your isk to buy back all the time cards you sold away, gaining in the end 5 years of game time AND half of the isk you bought! \o/
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