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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.12.23 16:28:00 -
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I hate it how everybody scours around to buy a lot of food they don't really need and will just end up spoiled. I hate it when everbody you visit expects you to sample from each of the foods presented, even if that alone would mean you'd end up with a full stomach from one household alone and loads of nausea in the evening. I hate it how everybody gives "thoughtful" presents to eachother that at best don't get returned to the store, at worst they end up directly in the trash... just freaking give the gift of cash-money, the universal gift, everybody loves it, nobody wants to return it. I hate it how everybody expects you to look joyous or whatever and try to cheer you up, ending up annoying you even more. I hate it how everybody pretends to be "in a holiday spirit" when most of them are in a self-induced tired and nerve-wrecked state... who the hell made you prepare all that food and put up all those decorations in the first place ?
Don't get me wrong, I hate most holidays for the same reasons, but Christmas takes the top in all possible "fake joy" categories.
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Arianhod
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Posted - 2008.12.23 16:31:00 -
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I love how this year, not many people can afford opulent quantities of food. How this time people are forced to take greater deliberation over gifts, ones that may be more useful than merely a novelty.
I love how this year, I can enjoy it without over commercialisation like it has been past years. Maybe this time it will stick?
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Arvald
Caldari Ninjas N Pirates
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Posted - 2008.12.23 16:39:00 -
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you and me both akita. friggin /signed
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Gnomes Rock
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Posted - 2008.12.23 16:39:00 -
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You have alot of hate inside of you.
Why do you care so much? Waste of energy to be honest. |

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.12.23 16:42:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 23/12/2008 16:43:59
Originally by: Gnomes Rock Why do you care so much? Waste of energy to be honest.
Out of context, could be a great quote. By me. About Christmas.  
Originally by: Arianhod I love how this year, I can enjoy it without over commercialisation like it has been past years.
It's slightly down a notch from the past years, but not quite there yet. Maybe NEXT holidays, when we're knee-deep in recession... then finally, I could probably enjoy the holidays too 
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Gnomes Rock
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Posted - 2008.12.23 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Out of context, could be a great quote. By me. About Christmas.  
People have fun in different ways, like you get fun out of feeling superior. So again, why do you care?
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Lord Zoran
House of Tempers
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Posted - 2008.12.23 16:49:00 -
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scrooge is that you?
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rValdez5987
Amarr 32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment.
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Posted - 2008.12.23 16:53:00 -
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Originally by: Gnomes Rock
Originally by: Akita T
Out of context, could be a great quote. By me. About Christmas.  
People have fun in different ways, like you get fun out of feeling superior. So again, why do you care?
But then, I suppose I just answered my own question.
Yeah... He likes to be boss. Pic related
I tend to find myself superior also 
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2008.12.23 16:59:00 -
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Bah Humbug!
Do what I do and go out with your friends after "family time" and get drunk (or whatever suits you) and share stories. Makes it all worth it TBH.
-------------------------------------------------- "Of course," said my grandfather, pulling a gun from his belt as he stepped from the Time Machine, "there's no paradox if I shoot you!"
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P'uck
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Posted - 2008.12.23 17:01:00 -
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Edited by: P''uck on 23/12/2008 17:00:54 christmas has been ****ed up badly.
also, holidays of lies, it never had ANYTHING to do with the birth of jesus.
Dont get me wrong, holiday are a great thing. but how about we pull the sticks out of our asses and stop to bull****ting each other?
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Ren Surkova
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.12.23 17:05:00 -
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christmas owns, jesus owns, nobody can complain about christmas, if christmas bothers you then just stay in bed, alone and stop complaining
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Brea Lafail
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Posted - 2008.12.23 17:06:00 -
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I spent double my usual amount on presents, knowing that people wouldn't be willing to spend the money on themselves.
As for the holiday cheer. 49 hour delay at airport --> full of bile and hate, but in the holiday spirit, I haven't threatened to castrate anyone yet. But that could be because Im afraid of getting tasered like a Polish immigrant.
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P'uck
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Posted - 2008.12.23 17:08:00 -
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Edited by: P''uck on 23/12/2008 17:07:52
Originally by: Ren Surkova christmas owns, jesus owns, nobody can complain about christmas, if christmas bothers you then just stay in bed, alone and stop complaining
So you have not the slightest clue about the actual holiday? thats nice.
You know it doesnt have anything to do with jesus?
And staying in bed - that's exactly the problem. Because that tends to get granny sad, and we dont want sad grannies, now, do we?
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Ren Surkova
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.12.23 17:12:00 -
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Originally by: P'uck
So you have not the slightest clue about the actual holiday? thats nice.
You know it doesnt have anything to do with jesus?
And staying in bed - that's exactly the problem. Because that tends to get granny sad, and we dont want sad grannies, now, do we?
yeah, because I need to know every cultural connotation and historical nuance of it just so I can go up to family (as you no doubt do) over the holidays like the irritating pedant you no doubt are and say 'heh, you know that this 'holiday' has nothing to do your so-called 'saviour' right? just so you know...' because that's a barrel of laughs isn't it? it's great to be right, way better than seeing family and all that bull****
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P'uck
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Posted - 2008.12.23 17:26:00 -
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you dont get a single thing without having it spoonfed, it seems...
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Slade Trillgon
Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.12.23 17:31:00 -
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Originally by: Arvald you and me both akita. friggin /signed
I will friggan sign also.
I do not want to even get into all the things I hate about this holiday. I will just enjoy my family.
Slade
Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
Please go sit in the corner, and dont forget to don the shame-on-you-hat!
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Ren Surkova
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.12.23 17:32:00 -
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Originally by: P'uck you dont get a single thing without having it spoonfed, it seems...
I don't think you get it. I don't care about the true history/meaning of christmas. Not many people do.
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Corwain
Gallente Dark Skullz Empire Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.12.23 17:34:00 -
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Most of your complaints seem to be problems with the people, not the holiday.
And giving cash is a horrible idea because then you might as well just keep your own cash and have nobody give anybody anything.
In an ideal world people would know each other well enough to give a well thought out gift. In the real world people don't so they just buy something random. This is why I only buy gifts for my closest friends and they're all custom tailored to suit that person.
As for the food, nobody is forcing you to eat it. I simply refuse, say I'm on a diet or some such (which is usually true.) People don't mind round here. It helps if you're a bit overweight as it doesn't sound like a cop out. -- Distortion| Distortion 2 Preview |

P'uck
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Posted - 2008.12.23 17:37:00 -
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Originally by: Ren Surkova
Originally by: P'uck you dont get a single thing without having it spoonfed, it seems...
I don't think you get it. I don't care about the true history/meaning of christmas. Not many people do.
Yes, I know, you already said that. It wasn't that hard to understand, you know.
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Ren Surkova
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.12.23 17:37:00 -
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jesus 'true meaning of christmas' christ erik, stop with the food analogies
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kor anon
Amarr The Tuskers
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Posted - 2008.12.23 17:38:00 -
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I agree 100%. Christmas is no longer a christian holiday, it is a commercial one.
Mind you i dont even celebrate my birthday, whats the point?
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Ren Surkova
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.12.23 17:39:00 -
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Originally by: P'uck
Originally by: Ren Surkova
Originally by: P'uck you dont get a single thing without having it spoonfed, it seems...
I don't think you get it. I don't care about the true history/meaning of christmas. Not many people do.
Yes, I know, you already said that. It wasn't that hard to understand, you know.
you obviously just don't get it 
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Corwain
Gallente Dark Skullz Empire Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.12.23 17:40:00 -
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Originally by: Ren Surkova jesus 'true meaning of christmas' christ erik, stop with the food analogies
I never said anything bout the meaning of christmas. I was just pointing out that people are *******s.  -- Distortion| Distortion 2 Preview |

P'uck
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Posted - 2008.12.23 17:43:00 -
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Originally by: Ren Surkova you obviously just don't get it 
What so hard to get? that you're an ignorant jock that's happy to meet his tribe again 
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Ren Surkova
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.12.23 17:45:00 -
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Originally by: P'uck
Originally by: Ren Surkova you obviously just don't get it 
What so hard to get? that you're an ignorant jock that's happy to meet his tribe again 
I know english isn't your first language, but you are sonning yourself right now
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.12.23 17:55:00 -
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Originally by: Corwain Most of your complaints seem to be problems with the people, not the holiday.
More to the point, with most people treating holidays (in particular Christmas) as some kind of "who can fake joy and happiness better" contest or a "who buys more presents" contest instead of just, you know, taking some time off and relaxing with their families.
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P'uck
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Posted - 2008.12.23 18:02:00 -
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Yesterday as I was cruising through the city I saw an advertisement of some catholic organisation asking for donations.
Roughly translated it was
"Because it's Jesus' birthday"
Now that isnt a problem if it comes from some uneducated or ignorant sheeple, but it bothers me when it comes from a catholic organization - their roots started that holiday in EXACT that timeframe to get some cheap excuse for bloodshed.
Also, don't get me started on santa claus.
And yes, you have to talk about all that crap if you ever want to make it better.
As I said, nothing wrong with holidays, but why exactly do we need to bull**** ourselves to pull it off?
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Arianhod
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Posted - 2008.12.23 18:05:00 -
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Because in Europe we sort of realised we don't need religion per say.
In America it's profits! profits! profits!
So in both there is bull**** because apart from a cultural and profit note, not enough people give a damn about it.
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Xen Gin
Universal Mining Inc Forged Dominion
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Posted - 2008.12.23 18:21:00 -
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For me Christmas is a secular holiday to be with family and a little bit of rest and relaxation. There is absolutely nothing religious about the old pagan tradition it's built upon.
I must go now, to tie some cloth about the tree of a fresh water spring! A 1000 blessings from Minerva for the coming year!
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P'uck
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Posted - 2008.12.23 18:25:00 -
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Edited by: P''uck on 23/12/2008 18:27:06
Originally by: Xen Gin There is absolutely nothing religious about the old pagan tradition it's built upon.
The problem is not that its built upon anythign pagan. The problem is, it only exists because the catholics needed something flashier than the pagans.
I might be going out on a limb here, but the average pagan back then probably was more in touch with the universe than those feisty bishops and popes.
edit: if you want, you could say, it never was more than a poor PR stunt.
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