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Straight Chillen Gallente Solar Wind	Posted - 2008.12.23 18:26:00 - [31] I think your one of your problem is you focus on the material aspects of the holiday, instead of what the point really is. Family. Really I think you hate the way the holidays make you feel, probably due to some personal/family related issues. If thats is indeed the case, then i do feel sorry for you, but really, the only thing/person that is stopping you from enjoying Christmas is yourself. Keep that in mind as you sit there wallowing in your hate and contempt on thursday morning. I on the otherhand, am looking foward to spending the day with my family and friends, eatting, drinking, and carrying on, as us crazy italians do. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
P'uck	Posted - 2008.12.23 18:34:00 - [32] Originally by: Straight Chillen the only thing/person that is stopping you from enjoying Christmas is yourself. Really? I thought it was the **ing "last christmas" tune I have to listen to in every friggin shop I dare to enter, STARTING IN OCTOBER. I remember, about ten or twenty years ago, shopkeepers that started that in the middle of november would be called greedy ***es. now youre running late if you start your decoration in november
Xen Gin Universal Mining Inc Forged Dominion	Posted - 2008.12.23 18:39:00 - [33] Edited by: Xen Gin on 23/12/2008 18:39:41 Originally by: P'uck Edited by: P''uck on 23/12/2008 18:27:06 Originally by: Xen Gin There is absolutely nothing religious about the old pagan tradition it's built upon. The problem is not that its built upon anythign pagan. The problem is, it only exists because the catholics needed something flashier than the pagans. I might be going out on a limb here, but the average pagan back then probably was more in touch with the universe than those feisty bishops and popes. edit: if you want, you could say, it never was more than a poor PR stunt. I'd have to say that they probably were more in touch. But the slight pagan tradition was stamped over by organised religion, which is a shame really. Also before the change of calendar 1752 (for Britain and it's colonies), Christmas used to fall on what is now known as 5th of January.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.12.23 19:25:00 - [34] Originally by: Straight Chillen I think your one of your problem is you focus on the material aspects of the holiday, instead of what the point really is. Family. Really I think you hate the way the holidays make you feel, probably due to some personal/family related issues. You could say that in a twisted way... I spend a lot of time with my family to begin with, and it's all fine and dandy most of the time... but as soon as the holidays come, it's like everybody starts going berserk and it STOPS being about family and starts being about the holidays. If anything, holidays are the moments when I'm the least in touch with and people in general. _ Create a character \|\| Fit a ship \|\| Get some ISK
Ren Surkova Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.12.23 19:27:00 - [35] Originally by: Akita T I spend a lot of time with my family to begin with hahahaha Originally by: Akita T holidays are the moments when I'm the least in touch with and people in general. jesus christ, you must be like a autistic car or something on the actual day sig filla, thread killa
Slade Trillgon Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.12.23 20:00:00 - [36] Originally by: P'uck edit: if you want, you could say, it never was more than a poor PR stunt. Agreed. It was PR in the idea that they Catholic Church bastardized many pagan traditions and those of a few other religions, to subvert the non-believers more easily. Slade Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Please go sit in the corner, and dont forget to don the shame-on-you-hat! ≡v≡
Corwain Gallente Dark Skullz Empire Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.12.23 20:30:00 - [37] Lets not go overboard with glorifying the pagans here. Yes organized religion is crap, but only cause it's a group of humans. The other groups of humans were and are pretty crap too. For instance little known fact about the native Americans, they freaking perfected torture. They had this one trick where they'd wet leather so it expands then strap it down tight around a guys head, then put him out in the hot sun. The leather tightens, guys skull is slooooowly crushed. People are people. Glorify any group of people and they won't live up to their hype. -- Distortion\| Distortion 2 Preview
P'uck	Posted - 2008.12.23 20:46:00 - [38] Originally by: Corwain For instance little known fact about the native Americans, they freaking perfected torture. They had this one trick where they'd wet leather so it expands then strap it down tight around a guys head, then put him out in the hot sun. The leather tightens, guys skull is slooooowly crushed. they also used that trick to make their tools work. I still use that trick for some things today, a friend of mine even -I **** you not- built a full suspension bike using an old ski and the wet leather trick.
Syrin VITUPERATED HYSTERIA V.I.R.A.L.	Posted - 2008.12.23 20:50:00 - [39] Think of us poor retail dogsbodies who have to cater at all hours for the idiotic requests of the public, Stupid christmas hours, Stupid christmas music and young staff that need a kicking for singing along in the shop.
Arianhod	Posted - 2008.12.23 20:54:00 - [40] Originally by: Syrin Think of us poor retail dogsbodies who have to cater at all hours for the idiotic requests of the public, Stupid christmas hours, Stupid christmas music and young staff that need a kicking for singing along in the shop. Snow is falling.... All around us... Children playing, having fun! T'is the season... Love and understanding... Merry Christmas - everyone! Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007. Haruhiists - Supporting Linkification since 2008

Syrin VITUPERATED HYSTERIA V.I.R.A.L.	Posted - 2008.12.23 20:58:00 - [41] Snow is falling.... All around us... Children playing, having fun! T'is the season... Love and understanding... Merry Christmas - everyone! Oh dear. Cant people let use miserable old bastards be miserable for once ?
Stitcher Caldari Duty.	Posted - 2008.12.23 21:47:00 - [42] I love how every year, my family and I have a really good excuse to spend some time together, eat some really good food (none of which is allowed to go to waste, btw), and relax for a bit. - Captain Verin "Stitcher" Tarn-Hakatain.
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.12.23 22:39:00 - [43] yep, it's only 2 days till christmas and I haven't even begun to shop yet. I don't know what to get anybody. No wait, my little brother fixed it for me for some game he wants off of steam. Every year it's the same damn crap. All brothers exchange video games or movies, get some clothes or maybe an electronic item from the parents (although for once in my life the clothes are actually a nice idea). Dinner at mothers on christmas eve, Dinner at fathers on christmas day, one of like 3 times the family is all together in the year). I had to go to Cabela's yesterday to buy some Gun Oil. I was standing in line with my purchase looking around, at the faces of people who were holding their redneck presents, with tired faces, a 'I don't give a **** at this point' expression. The cashiers looked exhausted, I bought my cashier a chocolate bar which at least gave her a smile for 2 seconds. I went to the mall to look around for anything that might be nice for someone in the family. While not finding anything that may interest another family member I saw children just wanting to go home, babies crying, people overloading their arms with 30 bags of crap. It also took about an hour just to leave the mall parking lot. I agree that christmas has lost it's meaning for the most part. Sure you get a little family time but the spirit of it is so commercialized it's not even funny anymore.
Darteis Elosia	Posted - 2008.12.23 23:30:00 - [44] Meh, the holidays are gonna be rather nice i think. I've just stayed away from stores and haven't really botherd with watching a lot of TV so i have successfully escaped most of the Christmas hysteria. Christmas is only about family for me, and ratting, because the belts are so empty during the 24/25
Wired Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.12.23 23:31:00 - [45] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Every year it's the same damn crap. All brothers exchange video games or movies...Dinner at mothers on Christmas eve, Dinner at fathers on Christmas day Originally by: Micheal Dietrich ...people overloading their arms with 30 bags of crap... Originally by: Micheal Dietrich I agree that Christmas has lost it's meaning for the most part. Sure you get a little family time but the spirit of it is so commercialized it's not even funny anymore. Michael, are you some sort of American clone of me or something? This is pretty much how it is for me. My eating arrangements are a bit different but I'll be visiting the parents over a couple of different days. I would be exchanging computer games with my brother, but I've said to him 'get your own bloody game when one comes out you really want, and I'll do the same', if not I'd be reduced to getting him something like Sonic Unleashed (my brothers 29, and i doubt he'd want that). This Christmas has been the most relaxing for me because I've decided not to buy anything for anyone (except myself), instead I've been able to sit around on the weekend, or my days off, drinking beer/spirits/coffee, in the middle of the city, whilst watching other people rush around buying all their Christmas stuff. And yes Christmas has become commercialized, and i think it can be summed up perfectly by the following quote from Bottom... (OK, maybe not the best example, but shows people doing stuff because it's "the done thing") Eddie: Not sprouts! I hate sprouts! Richie: Oh will you stop whinging Eddie! Nobody likes sprouts. Eddie: Then why are we having them then? Richie: Because itÆs Christmas! ============================================= My sig got edited, and all i got was a lousy e-mail
TimMc Gallente Brutal Deliverance OWN Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.24 00:46:00 - [46] Originally by: Slade Trillgon Originally by: P'uck edit: if you want, you could say, it never was more than a poor PR stunt. Agreed. It was PR in the idea that they Catholic Church bastardized many pagan traditions and those of a few other religions, to subvert the non-believers more easily. Slade Since when was this news? First things the Catholic Church did was try to replace pagan holidays, traditions and festivals with Christian themed ones. Problem is they ended up mixing a bit, so alot of of Christian symbolism is ****ed atm. Jesus was actually born more near the Easter holidays than Christmas. tbh, Christmas today is about commercialism and pretending to love your family, mostly with your wallet and undivided attention for a few days.
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.12.24 00:50:00 - [47] Originally by: TimMc Originally by: Slade Trillgon Originally by: P'uck edit: if you want, you could say, it never was more than a poor PR stunt. Agreed. It was PR in the idea that they Catholic Church bastardized many pagan traditions and those of a few other religions, to subvert the non-believers more easily. Slade Since when was this news? First things the Catholic Church did was try to replace pagan holidays, traditions and festivals with Christian themed ones. Problem is they ended up mixing a bit, so alot of of Christian symbolism is ****ed atm. Jesus was actually born more near the Easter holidays than Christmas. tbh, Christmas today is about commercialism and pretending to love your family, mostly with your wallet and undivided attention for a few days. Undivided my ass. I take my laptop with me and get right to my games after the presents are delivered. My brothers bring a xbox and take over the tv in the back bedroom. We may each talk about our jobs for an hour but that's about it.
Tzar'rim	Posted - 2008.12.24 01:54:00 - [48] I have nothing against people having a good time and having the genuine wish to to make it enjoyable if only for a little while. But I hate fake, elbowing, hidden agenda, "smile your tears away" crap.
Rejected Enlightenment Guiding Hand Social Club Otherworld Empire Productions	Posted - 2008.12.24 02:34:00 - [49] Originally by: Akita T I hate it how everybody scours around to buy a lot of food they don't really need and will just end up spoiled. I hate it when everbody you visit expects you to sample from each of the foods presented, even if that alone would mean you'd end up with a full stomach from one household alone and loads of nausea in the evening. I hate it how everybody gives "thoughtful" presents to eachother that at best don't get returned to the store, at worst they end up directly in the trash... just freaking give the gift of cash-money, the universal gift, everybody loves it, nobody wants to return it. I hate it how everybody expects you to look joyous or whatever and try to cheer you up, ending up annoying you even more. I hate it how everybody pretends to be "in a holiday spirit" when most of them are in a self-induced tired and nerve-wrecked state... who the hell made you prepare all that food and put up all those decorations in the first place ? Don't get me wrong, I hate most holidays for the same reasons, but Christmas takes the top in all possible "fake joy" categories. You trolled so many people with this.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.12.24 03:22:00 - [50] Originally by: Rejected Enlightenment You trolled so many people with this. 'tiz a season for gathering 'round the fire and watching stuff burn _ Create a character \|\| Fit a ship \|\| Get some ISK

Ivana Drake	Posted - 2008.12.24 03:27:00 - [51] Working in an electronics store, the big TVs are usually on full blast on all day on some music channel playing nothing but christmas songs. I now have the Cheeky Girls tune stuck in my head...
The TX Gallente Pulsar Combat Supplies Alternative Realities	Posted - 2008.12.24 03:38:00 - [52] I get paid not to work on Xmas day and boxing day. How can anyone complain that they're being paid to do nothing? Not me! - - - Originally by: Slade Trillgon Holy wall of text TX-Man.
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.12.24 05:01:00 - [53] As a early christmas treat I gave my little kitty a paintball. I can hear the joy and amusement rolling around in the bathroom now.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar Ninjas N Pirates	Posted - 2008.12.24 05:02:00 - [54] I like holidays just fine... no more 35-40 hours a week of studying till next semester!
Kessiaan Minmatar Army of One	Posted - 2008.12.24 07:03:00 - [55] Edited by: Kessiaan on 24/12/2008 07:05:39 /signed. I hate this time of year. Last couple of years, people ask me what I want for Christmas, and I tell them to save their money and buy something they need, if I need help I'll ask for it, I expect them to do the same, and I'm not buying anyone anything except cheesy Christmas, which are still overpriced. ... it actually works, too. ... besides, I've said all I'm going to say. You're reading my sig now! Bwa! -
Rob Z0mbie	Posted - 2008.12.24 07:16:00 - [56] Originally by: Ren Surkova christmas owns, jesus owns, nobody can complain about christmas, if christmas bothers you then just stay in bed, alone and stop complaining ^lol jesus owns... LOL dies laughing \(o.0)/
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.12.24 08:14:00 - [57] Originally by: Rob Z0mbie Originally by: Ren Surkova christmas owns, jesus owns, nobody can complain about christmas, if christmas bothers you then just stay in bed, alone and stop complaining ^lol jesus owns... LOL dies laughing OMGWTFBBQPROOF
AmosTrask Minmatar	Posted - 2008.12.24 08:38:00 - [58] This thread is a very clear sign of how much my kids have changed my life,four years ago i would have agreed with your post Akita, but christmas for me and my family is about spending time together and enjoying a few days off before going back to the grind. Lifes what you make it as they say.
Vikarion Caldari White Rose Society	Posted - 2008.12.24 09:18:00 - [59] I'm a Christian, so I celebrate what the holiday represents, not because I think it's the actual date. That said, here's how I enjoy Christmas: 1. I make an extra effort to be kind and encouraging to all of the overworked people I meet. 2. I don't buy gifts. 3. I avoid stores. Completely. 4. Because of the above, I don't hear any carols, so I sing them occasionally to myself when everything is quiet and the snow is falling outside. 5. I eat something nice I've picked out before hand, that I enjoy, and save any leftovers for later. 6. I live alone, so no one bothers me and I usually don't go anywhere for Christmas. It's very nice.
jason hill Caldari Clan Shadow Wolf Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2008.12.24 12:03:00 - [60] i just might get hammered and sing xmas carols on vent tonight just to **** the alliance off destroy everything you touch



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