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Ronyo Dae'Loki	Posted - 2004.07.21 20:38:00 - [61] Originally by: Grabtharr Sorry, whether or not he thinks he can fly a Taranis, hes giving bad advice. Using an MWD on a frig anymore is just plain stupid. With a good cheap names 10mn AB you can get 3k out of a Taranis and not show up like a cruiser to the guns of the enemy. Tried and tested here. I have ceptor 5 and can fly Minmatar and Gallente interceptors and ABs are the only option unless your doing courier missions Wow. Just wow. Are you SURE you've fought other players? And do you orbit with your AB/MWD turned on? ------------- My salsa makes all the pretty girls want to dance and take off their underpants. I <3 ( . Y . )
Ronyo Dae'Loki	Posted - 2004.07.21 20:38:00 - [62] Originally by: Grabtharr Sorry, whether or not he thinks he can fly a Taranis, hes giving bad advice. Using an MWD on a frig anymore is just plain stupid. With a good cheap names 10mn AB you can get 3k out of a Taranis and not show up like a cruiser to the guns of the enemy. Tried and tested here. I have ceptor 5 and can fly Minmatar and Gallente interceptors and ABs are the only option unless your doing courier missions Wow. Just wow. Are you SURE you've fought other players? And do you orbit with your AB/MWD turned on? ------------- My salsa makes all the pretty girls want to dance and take off their underpants. I <3 ( . Y . )
juduzz	Posted - 2004.07.21 21:20:00 - [63] My 2 setups been testing on the taranis ( only had chance to try the armor tank in pvp) anti frigate setup so MWD is only used for getting to the target fast PVP Armor tank: 3 ions web MWD scrambler 2x micro aux power core 400mm nano plates Gives just over 900 armor so u can last long semi damage/semi tanked: 3x neutrons 1 ion web scrambler mwd micro auc power core tch2 magstab 200mm nano plates PVE: 3 150mm rails with tugnsten MWD for apraoch when at range shield booster or cap booster cus it dont matter IMO 2xaux power core, tc2 magstab. the above works welll on serp cruisers upto 50k ( only ones ive tried) but it isnt designed for taking down missile boats. ----------------------------------------------
juduzz	Posted - 2004.07.21 21:20:00 - [64] My 2 setups been testing on the taranis ( only had chance to try the armor tank in pvp) anti frigate setup so MWD is only used for getting to the target fast PVP Armor tank: 3 ions web MWD scrambler 2x micro aux power core 400mm nano plates Gives just over 900 armor so u can last long semi damage/semi tanked: 3x neutrons 1 ion web scrambler mwd micro auc power core tch2 magstab 200mm nano plates PVE: 3 150mm rails with tugnsten MWD for apraoch when at range shield booster or cap booster cus it dont matter IMO 2xaux power core, tc2 magstab. the above works welll on serp cruisers upto 50k ( only ones ive tried) but it isnt designed for taking down missile boats. ----------------------------------------------
RollinDutchMasters	Posted - 2004.07.21 21:41:00 - [65] I have a strong preference for the 10mn AB, but thats mainly due to my fighting style. For 1v1 interceptor combat, a MWD is better. I've always been more interested in picking off frigates while battleships look on, or killing indys that have battleships running cover, that type of thing. For that, a MWD would very rapidly get me very dead. Being able to just pick a belt and blast NPCs with the same setup that I use for PVP doesnt hurt either. Originally by: Sochin CCP has provided you with the tools you need to avoid crime. You're just too lazy/stupid to use them.
RollinDutchMasters	Posted - 2004.07.21 21:41:00 - [66] I have a strong preference for the 10mn AB, but thats mainly due to my fighting style. For 1v1 interceptor combat, a MWD is better. I've always been more interested in picking off frigates while battleships look on, or killing indys that have battleships running cover, that type of thing. For that, a MWD would very rapidly get me very dead. Being able to just pick a belt and blast NPCs with the same setup that I use for PVP doesnt hurt either. Originally by: Sochin CCP has provided you with the tools you need to avoid crime. You're just too lazy/stupid to use them.
Lansfear	Posted - 2004.07.21 21:51:00 - [67] 3x Light ions Small Nos MWD Webber Scrambler(ecm burst) 1x Micro Aux 2x small armor repairers With the new tracking, use the mwd for one burst to get in range, then just orbit at max speed. Tested and proven. /me waves
Lansfear	Posted - 2004.07.21 21:51:00 - [68] 3x Light ions Small Nos MWD Webber Scrambler(ecm burst) 1x Micro Aux 2x small armor repairers With the new tracking, use the mwd for one burst to get in range, then just orbit at max speed. Tested and proven. /me waves
Lansfear	Posted - 2004.07.21 21:52:00 - [69] Originally by: Ronyo Dae'Loki Originally by: Juan Andalusian I am glad you all happily agree to use neutrons. If you're saying that's not what you use, I'd love to meet up in 0.0 and fight you sometime. Yes, I've heard arguments ever since I got the Taranis about Ions vs. Neutrons. Nobody has ever conviced me that Ions are better or even as good, and I would wager I have the combat experience to back up my position. Do you? I only use Ions. And my track record is rather nice.
Lansfear	Posted - 2004.07.21 21:52:00 - [70] Originally by: Ronyo Dae'Loki Originally by: Juan Andalusian I am glad you all happily agree to use neutrons. If you're saying that's not what you use, I'd love to meet up in 0.0 and fight you sometime. Yes, I've heard arguments ever since I got the Taranis about Ions vs. Neutrons. Nobody has ever conviced me that Ions are better or even as good, and I would wager I have the combat experience to back up my position. Do you? I only use Ions. And my track record is rather nice.
Grimpak	Posted - 2004.07.21 22:05:00 - [71] Originally by: Lansfear 3x Light ions Small Nos MWD Webber Scrambler(ecm burst) 1x Micro Aux 2x small armor repairers With the new tracking, use the mwd for one burst to get in range, then just orbit at max speed. Tested and proven. /me waves agree ------------------- Quote: Fragm's Oversized Ego Cannon barely scratches the forums, inflicting omgnoonecares damage
Grimpak	Posted - 2004.07.21 22:05:00 - [72] Originally by: Lansfear 3x Light ions Small Nos MWD Webber Scrambler(ecm burst) 1x Micro Aux 2x small armor repairers With the new tracking, use the mwd for one burst to get in range, then just orbit at max speed. Tested and proven. /me waves agree ------------------- Quote: Fragm's Oversized Ego Cannon barely scratches the forums, inflicting omgnoonecares damage
Angelhunter	Posted - 2004.07.22 01:31:00 - [73] In my experiences, fights are over long before a Nos could serve any practical use. SB's on the other hand have saved me alot of times. ---------------
Angelhunter	Posted - 2004.07.22 01:31:00 - [74] In my experiences, fights are over long before a Nos could serve any practical use. SB's on the other hand have saved me alot of times. ---------------
Lansfear	Posted - 2004.07.22 04:02:00 - [75] The nos isn't meant to do the enemy any real damage, it's meant to give your cap a little extra something.
Lansfear	Posted - 2004.07.22 04:02:00 - [76] The nos isn't meant to do the enemy any real damage, it's meant to give your cap a little extra something.
Lansfear	Posted - 2004.07.22 04:03:00 - [77] Originally by: Angelhunter In my experiences, fights are over long before a Nos could serve any practical use. SB's on the other hand have saved me alot of times. Micro/small Smartbombs are slow, energy hogs, fitting hogs, and hit everything, even allies, and don't do any real amount of damage.
Lansfear	Posted - 2004.07.22 04:03:00 - [78] Originally by: Angelhunter In my experiences, fights are over long before a Nos could serve any practical use. SB's on the other hand have saved me alot of times. Micro/small Smartbombs are slow, energy hogs, fitting hogs, and hit everything, even allies, and don't do any real amount of damage.
Shintoko Akahoshi	Posted - 2004.07.22 04:38:00 - [79] Personally I think using a 10MN AB in PvP is only smart if you're expecting to only fight/catch cruisers and BS. Especially in a blaster-equipped gunboat. If you're using a weapon that requires you to get within 4 km or so to get good hits, you want to be as fast as you can. If your MWD equipped foe (a Crow with a web and MWD, for instance, or a Crusader with long-range crystals) can keep you at a distance, all the "on paper" damage in the world won't help you. Sig-radius-wise, a good frigate pilot will hit you whichever of the two mods (AB or MWD) you have fitted, so you might as well put that 25 grid you'd spend on the AB to better use. Keep in mind that most of my combat is frigate/interceptor skirmishing with other frigates and interceptors, with relatively little of it being fleet/catching combat, hence my preference for a MWD. There's no meaning to life when you cling only to common sense
Shintoko Akahoshi	Posted - 2004.07.22 04:38:00 - [80] Personally I think using a 10MN AB in PvP is only smart if you're expecting to only fight/catch cruisers and BS. Especially in a blaster-equipped gunboat. If you're using a weapon that requires you to get within 4 km or so to get good hits, you want to be as fast as you can. If your MWD equipped foe (a Crow with a web and MWD, for instance, or a Crusader with long-range crystals) can keep you at a distance, all the "on paper" damage in the world won't help you. Sig-radius-wise, a good frigate pilot will hit you whichever of the two mods (AB or MWD) you have fitted, so you might as well put that 25 grid you'd spend on the AB to better use. Keep in mind that most of my combat is frigate/interceptor skirmishing with other frigates and interceptors, with relatively little of it being fleet/catching combat, hence my preference for a MWD. There's no meaning to life when you cling only to common sense
Ronyo Dae'Loki	Posted - 2004.07.22 04:59:00 - [81] Originally by: Lansfear The nos isn't meant to do the enemy any real damage, it's meant to give your cap a little extra something. If you're running out of cap it's your skills that are the problem. However, I do like your addition of the armor repairers--you have good survivability deep in space without stations. ------------- My salsa makes all the pretty girls want to dance and take off their underpants. I <3 ( . Y . )
Ronyo Dae'Loki	Posted - 2004.07.22 04:59:00 - [82] Originally by: Lansfear The nos isn't meant to do the enemy any real damage, it's meant to give your cap a little extra something. If you're running out of cap it's your skills that are the problem. However, I do like your addition of the armor repairers--you have good survivability deep in space without stations. ------------- My salsa makes all the pretty girls want to dance and take off their underpants. I <3 ( . Y . )
EveJunkie	Posted - 2004.07.22 05:48:00 - [83] I personally always fit an armour repair on my Taranis as it really allows you to stay in the field longer expecialy when set up for PvP (e.g. no shield booster). I generally stick with ions rather than nutrons as I score more hits due to the better tracking, the lower fitting requirements are nice too allowing more flexibility in the rest of the loadout. Smartbombs are a definate no no for me. I've lost more ships to Guristas stations than I have to the PA in this last war due to mistaken smartbomb activation Problem for me is what to fit in that last high slot. Small Nos arent much good, smartbombs are out, shield/cap transfers (yeh right), was fitting a cloak for scouting until they nerfed that out the picture. Shame that auto-targeters dont work properly, would be great for drone killing. oh and dont forget the Taranis can carry 3 scout drones, they dont sound like much but they have saved my bacon a few times by killing/distracting enemy heavy drones.
EveJunkie	Posted - 2004.07.22 05:48:00 - [84] I personally always fit an armour repair on my Taranis as it really allows you to stay in the field longer expecialy when set up for PvP (e.g. no shield booster). I generally stick with ions rather than nutrons as I score more hits due to the better tracking, the lower fitting requirements are nice too allowing more flexibility in the rest of the loadout. Smartbombs are a definate no no for me. I've lost more ships to Guristas stations than I have to the PA in this last war due to mistaken smartbomb activation Problem for me is what to fit in that last high slot. Small Nos arent much good, smartbombs are out, shield/cap transfers (yeh right), was fitting a cloak for scouting until they nerfed that out the picture. Shame that auto-targeters dont work properly, would be great for drone killing. oh and dont forget the Taranis can carry 3 scout drones, they dont sound like much but they have saved my bacon a few times by killing/distracting enemy heavy drones.
Grabtharr	Posted - 2004.07.22 06:46:00 - [85] Originally by: Ronyo Dae'Loki Originally by: Grabtharr Sorry, whether or not he thinks he can fly a Taranis, hes giving bad advice. Using an MWD on a frig anymore is just plain stupid. With a good cheap names 10mn AB you can get 3k out of a Taranis and not show up like a cruiser to the guns of the enemy. Tried and tested here. I have ceptor 5 and can fly Minmatar and Gallente interceptors and ABs are the only option unless your doing courier missions Wow. Just wow. Are you SURE you've fought other players? And do you orbit with your AB/MWD turned on? On and off Depends on the fight and the ship No sense shooting missles if both can outrun unless you web in wich cas he webs you then its a race to the finish of your ship. Ive never lost an interceptor to frig or another interceptor...just get caught between a rock and a hard place...usually vastly superior forces and boredom.
Grabtharr	Posted - 2004.07.22 06:46:00 - [86] Originally by: Ronyo Dae'Loki Originally by: Grabtharr Sorry, whether or not he thinks he can fly a Taranis, hes giving bad advice. Using an MWD on a frig anymore is just plain stupid. With a good cheap names 10mn AB you can get 3k out of a Taranis and not show up like a cruiser to the guns of the enemy. Tried and tested here. I have ceptor 5 and can fly Minmatar and Gallente interceptors and ABs are the only option unless your doing courier missions Wow. Just wow. Are you SURE you've fought other players? And do you orbit with your AB/MWD turned on? On and off Depends on the fight and the ship No sense shooting missles if both can outrun unless you web in wich cas he webs you then its a race to the finish of your ship. Ive never lost an interceptor to frig or another interceptor...just get caught between a rock and a hard place...usually vastly superior forces and boredom.
Grabtharr	Posted - 2004.07.22 06:47:00 - [87] Originally by: RollinDutchMasters I have a strong preference for the 10mn AB, but thats mainly due to my fighting style. For 1v1 interceptor combat, a MWD is better. I've always been more interested in picking off frigates while battleships look on, or killing indys that have battleships running cover, that type of thing. For that, a MWD would very rapidly get me very dead. Being able to just pick a belt and blast NPCs with the same setup that I use for PVP doesnt hurt either. Thats exactly my point and my style too. Pick off a target amongst BS, its fun to watch them waste ammo. With the MWD they can hit you just fine
Grabtharr	Posted - 2004.07.22 06:47:00 - [88] Originally by: RollinDutchMasters I have a strong preference for the 10mn AB, but thats mainly due to my fighting style. For 1v1 interceptor combat, a MWD is better. I've always been more interested in picking off frigates while battleships look on, or killing indys that have battleships running cover, that type of thing. For that, a MWD would very rapidly get me very dead. Being able to just pick a belt and blast NPCs with the same setup that I use for PVP doesnt hurt either. Thats exactly my point and my style too. Pick off a target amongst BS, its fun to watch them waste ammo. With the MWD they can hit you just fine
Juan Andalusian	Posted - 2004.07.22 07:20:00 - [89] Originally by: Grabtharr Thats exactly my point and my style too. Pick off a target amongst BS, its fun to watch them waste ammo. With the MWD they can hit you just fine Go fit your battleships with MWDs and ABs. Then fly by a corp mate who is also sitting in a battleship, try to match the transversial speeds you get with a ceptor as you pass close to optimal. Then open fire with your turrets and tell me how many times you hit. Pain is meant to be felt
Juan Andalusian	Posted - 2004.07.22 07:20:00 - [90] Originally by: Grabtharr Thats exactly my point and my style too. Pick off a target amongst BS, its fun to watch them waste ammo. With the MWD they can hit you just fine Go fit your battleships with MWDs and ABs. Then fly by a corp mate who is also sitting in a battleship, try to match the transversial speeds you get with a ceptor as you pass close to optimal. Then open fire with your turrets and tell me how many times you hit. Pain is meant to be felt

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