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Ronyo Dae'Loki	Posted - 2004.07.20 19:45:00 - [31] Originally by: Xanz Trust me when I say Ronyo knows how to fly and fit a Taranis. Hi Xanz. Yeah guys, keep using your setups, I will see you on the battlefield. ------------- My salsa makes all the pretty girls want to dance and take off their underpants. I <3 ( . Y . )
Ronyo Dae'Loki	Posted - 2004.07.20 19:45:00 - [32] Originally by: Xanz Trust me when I say Ronyo knows how to fly and fit a Taranis. Hi Xanz. Yeah guys, keep using your setups, I will see you on the battlefield. ------------- My salsa makes all the pretty girls want to dance and take off their underpants. I <3 ( . Y . )
Masochist	Posted - 2004.07.20 19:57:00 - [33] Originally by: Muntz There's also the 25% cap and shield penalty to consider, which the 10MN AB doesn't suffer from. Not to mention that with fuel conservation and AB skill, you can run the AB for longer that an MWD for very reasonable cap usage, which, coupled with the fact that you have 25% more cap that with an MWD, makes it easier to sustain. It works, trust me. You don't go quite as fast as with an MWD, but if you have a high enough base speed, it doesn't really matter. The problem is that you have to waste low slots to force a 10mn AB (made for a cruiser) to fit. It's not worth it. Using the correct modules for the size of the ship you're flying will always outperform someone squeezing modules that shouldn't fit.
Masochist	Posted - 2004.07.20 19:57:00 - [34] Originally by: Muntz There's also the 25% cap and shield penalty to consider, which the 10MN AB doesn't suffer from. Not to mention that with fuel conservation and AB skill, you can run the AB for longer that an MWD for very reasonable cap usage, which, coupled with the fact that you have 25% more cap that with an MWD, makes it easier to sustain. It works, trust me. You don't go quite as fast as with an MWD, but if you have a high enough base speed, it doesn't really matter. The problem is that you have to waste low slots to force a 10mn AB (made for a cruiser) to fit. It's not worth it. Using the correct modules for the size of the ship you're flying will always outperform someone squeezing modules that shouldn't fit.
Odet	Posted - 2004.07.20 20:25:00 - [35] Edited by: Odet on 20/07/2004 20:33:37 after seeing how you ppl setup your inty`s now i know why i can kill them so easily in my regular frigs edit* just a suggestion dont try to multi role so much... it makes you less effective in both categories. Focus on what you want your ship to acheive. aka dont shield tank and try to have crazy dmg its not going to happend you`ll be out of cap in 10 seconds. depending on your skills the basic setup for a taranis is : 3x neutrons 1x smartbomb 1x mwd 1x web 1x warp 2x power diagnostic 1x dmg mod when you get your skills up like me then you can do some funky things with your setup also dont forget to use drones =This podding has been brought to you by Odet, the only way to fry.=
Odet	Posted - 2004.07.20 20:25:00 - [36] Edited by: Odet on 20/07/2004 20:33:37 after seeing how you ppl setup your inty`s now i know why i can kill them so easily in my regular frigs edit* just a suggestion dont try to multi role so much... it makes you less effective in both categories. Focus on what you want your ship to acheive. aka dont shield tank and try to have crazy dmg its not going to happend you`ll be out of cap in 10 seconds. depending on your skills the basic setup for a taranis is : 3x neutrons 1x smartbomb 1x mwd 1x web 1x warp 2x power diagnostic 1x dmg mod when you get your skills up like me then you can do some funky things with your setup also dont forget to use drones =This podding has been brought to you by Odet, the only way to fry.=
PASTOR TROY	Posted - 2004.07.20 20:34:00 - [37] Originally by: Muntz There's also the 25% cap and shield penalty to consider, which the 10MN AB doesn't suffer from. Not to mention that with fuel conservation and AB skill, you can run the AB for longer that an MWD for very reasonable cap usage, which, coupled with the fact that you have 25% more cap that with an MWD, makes it easier to sustain. It works, trust me. You don't go quite as fast as with an MWD, but if you have a high enough base speed, it doesn't really matter. I tried the 10mn ab for about a week... . to me it wasn't worth it to basically hamstring your setup and repair ability. ... basically whats worked for me (out in space) treat your taranis like a baby megathron... get in kill (collect loot)... get out... PT
PASTOR TROY	Posted - 2004.07.20 20:34:00 - [38] Originally by: Muntz There's also the 25% cap and shield penalty to consider, which the 10MN AB doesn't suffer from. Not to mention that with fuel conservation and AB skill, you can run the AB for longer that an MWD for very reasonable cap usage, which, coupled with the fact that you have 25% more cap that with an MWD, makes it easier to sustain. It works, trust me. You don't go quite as fast as with an MWD, but if you have a high enough base speed, it doesn't really matter. I tried the 10mn ab for about a week... . to me it wasn't worth it to basically hamstring your setup and repair ability. ... basically whats worked for me (out in space) treat your taranis like a baby megathron... get in kill (collect loot)... get out... PT
Waagaa Ktlehr	Posted - 2004.07.20 21:56:00 - [39] My thoughts exactly. Tear the enemy to bits and limp out of battle. I always put a (non-active) small repper in my lows when I go deep into 0.0 so I can repair down there, lose a CPR to do it. Originally by: PASTOR TROY Originally by: Muntz There's also the 25% cap and shield penalty to consider, which the 10MN AB doesn't suffer from. Not to mention that with fuel conservation and AB skill, you can run the AB for longer that an MWD for very reasonable cap usage, which, coupled with the fact that you have 25% more cap that with an MWD, makes it easier to sustain. It works, trust me. You don't go quite as fast as with an MWD, but if you have a high enough base speed, it doesn't really matter. I tried the 10mn ab for about a week... . to me it wasn't worth it to basically hamstring your setup and repair ability. ... basically whats worked for me (out in space) treat your taranis like a baby megathron... get in kill (collect loot)... get out... PT ------------------------------------------ I am a love machine, feeding my fantasy, give me a kiss or three, have fun!
Waagaa Ktlehr	Posted - 2004.07.20 21:56:00 - [40] My thoughts exactly. Tear the enemy to bits and limp out of battle. I always put a (non-active) small repper in my lows when I go deep into 0.0 so I can repair down there, lose a CPR to do it. Originally by: PASTOR TROY Originally by: Muntz There's also the 25% cap and shield penalty to consider, which the 10MN AB doesn't suffer from. Not to mention that with fuel conservation and AB skill, you can run the AB for longer that an MWD for very reasonable cap usage, which, coupled with the fact that you have 25% more cap that with an MWD, makes it easier to sustain. It works, trust me. You don't go quite as fast as with an MWD, but if you have a high enough base speed, it doesn't really matter. I tried the 10mn ab for about a week... . to me it wasn't worth it to basically hamstring your setup and repair ability. ... basically whats worked for me (out in space) treat your taranis like a baby megathron... get in kill (collect loot)... get out... PT ------------------------------------------ I am a love machine, feeding my fantasy, give me a kiss or three, have fun!
Cruz	Posted - 2004.07.20 22:04:00 - [41] Edited by: Cruz on 20/07/2004 22:07:22 Edited by: Cruz on 20/07/2004 22:06:42 Originally by: Odet Edited by: Odet on 20/07/2004 20:33:37 after seeing how you ppl setup your inty`s now i know why i can kill them so easily in my regular frigs edit* just a suggestion dont try to multi role so much... it makes you less effective in both categories. Focus on what you want your ship to acheive. aka dont shield tank and try to have crazy dmg its not going to happend you`ll be out of cap in 10 seconds. depending on your skills the basic setup for a taranis is : 3x neutrons 1x smartbomb 1x mwd 1x web 1x warp 2x power diagnostic 1x dmg mod when you get your skills up like me then you can do some funky things with your setup also dont forget to use drones I have yet to face one taranis that uses a Smartbomb, everysingle one uses a Nosferatu because umm its the SMART thing to do in a taranis. And PDUs? WTF are those for? LOL dude, 1CPR and 1 MAPC would be much better to use... It would give you more Cap recharge and more Power Grid...(yarr i know how PDUs also increase your Cap + Recharge, but unless you have two tech II PDUs, the Cap Relay + MAPC is better. Yarr m8... I have faced many experienced Taranis pilots And they are deadly as hell with or without nuetron blasters. .................
Cruz	Posted - 2004.07.20 22:04:00 - [42] Edited by: Cruz on 20/07/2004 22:07:22 Edited by: Cruz on 20/07/2004 22:06:42 Originally by: Odet Edited by: Odet on 20/07/2004 20:33:37 after seeing how you ppl setup your inty`s now i know why i can kill them so easily in my regular frigs edit* just a suggestion dont try to multi role so much... it makes you less effective in both categories. Focus on what you want your ship to acheive. aka dont shield tank and try to have crazy dmg its not going to happend you`ll be out of cap in 10 seconds. depending on your skills the basic setup for a taranis is : 3x neutrons 1x smartbomb 1x mwd 1x web 1x warp 2x power diagnostic 1x dmg mod when you get your skills up like me then you can do some funky things with your setup also dont forget to use drones I have yet to face one taranis that uses a Smartbomb, everysingle one uses a Nosferatu because umm its the SMART thing to do in a taranis. And PDUs? WTF are those for? LOL dude, 1CPR and 1 MAPC would be much better to use... It would give you more Cap recharge and more Power Grid...(yarr i know how PDUs also increase your Cap + Recharge, but unless you have two tech II PDUs, the Cap Relay + MAPC is better. Yarr m8... I have faced many experienced Taranis pilots And they are deadly as hell with or without nuetron blasters. .................
Ronyo Dae'Loki	Posted - 2004.07.20 22:52:00 - [43] Originally by: Cruz I have yet to face one taranis that uses a Smartbomb, everysingle one uses a Nosferatu because umm its the SMART thing to do in a taranis. roofleskates Your other suggestions are correct, but this is plain silly. Interceptor battles are over too quickly for a Small Nosferatu to make much of a difference, and against cruisers and up a Small Nos is useless. Unless you're fitted for fighting Amarr only with a Taranis, using a Small Nos isn't the brightest thing to do. A Caldari or Minmatar pilot doesn't care too much if he has no cap on his interceptor--missiles and projectiles don't exactly need much to pound you to bits. ------------- My salsa makes all the pretty girls want to dance and take off their underpants. I <3 ( . Y . )
Ronyo Dae'Loki	Posted - 2004.07.20 22:52:00 - [44] Originally by: Cruz I have yet to face one taranis that uses a Smartbomb, everysingle one uses a Nosferatu because umm its the SMART thing to do in a taranis. roofleskates Your other suggestions are correct, but this is plain silly. Interceptor battles are over too quickly for a Small Nosferatu to make much of a difference, and against cruisers and up a Small Nos is useless. Unless you're fitted for fighting Amarr only with a Taranis, using a Small Nos isn't the brightest thing to do. A Caldari or Minmatar pilot doesn't care too much if he has no cap on his interceptor--missiles and projectiles don't exactly need much to pound you to bits. ------------- My salsa makes all the pretty girls want to dance and take off their underpants. I <3 ( . Y . )
Angelhunter	Posted - 2004.07.21 04:57:00 - [45] Edited by: Angelhunter on 21/07/2004 06:25:51 Yeah, a Smartbomb makes no sense at all because popping those incoming missles makes no sense at all. My Setup: 3x Light Neutrons 1x Small SB 1x 1mn MWD 1x Webber 1x Scrambler 1x PDU 1x Micro Aux 1x Cap Relay I have fought and killed just about every interceptor and Frig with this setup, and alot of cruisers. Only thing i will change after some more skills finish is swapping out for a dmg mod. ---------------
Angelhunter	Posted - 2004.07.21 04:57:00 - [46] Edited by: Angelhunter on 21/07/2004 06:25:51 Yeah, a Smartbomb makes no sense at all because popping those incoming missles makes no sense at all. My Setup: 3x Light Neutrons 1x Small SB 1x 1mn MWD 1x Webber 1x Scrambler 1x PDU 1x Micro Aux 1x Cap Relay I have fought and killed just about every interceptor and Frig with this setup, and alot of cruisers. Only thing i will change after some more skills finish is swapping out for a dmg mod. ---------------
Juan Andalusian	Posted - 2004.07.21 07:18:00 - [47] I am glad you all happily agree to use neutrons. Pain is meant to be felt
Juan Andalusian	Posted - 2004.07.21 07:18:00 - [48] I am glad you all happily agree to use neutrons. Pain is meant to be felt
Ronyo Dae'Loki	Posted - 2004.07.21 07:42:00 - [49] Originally by: Juan Andalusian I am glad you all happily agree to use neutrons. If you're saying that's not what you use, I'd love to meet up in 0.0 and fight you sometime. Yes, I've heard arguments ever since I got the Taranis about Ions vs. Neutrons. Nobody has ever conviced me that Ions are better or even as good, and I would wager I have the combat experience to back up my position. Do you? ------------- My salsa makes all the pretty girls want to dance and take off their underpants. I <3 ( . Y . )
Ronyo Dae'Loki	Posted - 2004.07.21 07:42:00 - [50] Originally by: Juan Andalusian I am glad you all happily agree to use neutrons. If you're saying that's not what you use, I'd love to meet up in 0.0 and fight you sometime. Yes, I've heard arguments ever since I got the Taranis about Ions vs. Neutrons. Nobody has ever conviced me that Ions are better or even as good, and I would wager I have the combat experience to back up my position. Do you? ------------- My salsa makes all the pretty girls want to dance and take off their underpants. I <3 ( . Y . )
jukriamrr	Posted - 2004.07.21 08:14:00 - [51] look guys, this originally was a post on how to fit a taranis. not knowing who has the biggest.. rooster rooster :)
jukriamrr	Posted - 2004.07.21 08:14:00 - [52] look guys, this originally was a post on how to fit a taranis. not knowing who has the biggest.. rooster rooster :)
Juan Andalusian	Posted - 2004.07.21 09:04:00 - [53] Originally by: Ronyo Dae'Loki Try not using a 10MN AB and instead using what is supposed to be mounted, a 1MN MWD. Because those setups suck. Well, I suppose if they are for PvE they would work ok, but Taranis isn't really cut out for that. This for me proves you have a good clue of what's going on. However from my part simply saying "Yes, i have the combat experience" is silly in a forum, so i will refrain. I can't hope to persuade you like this nor do i aim to. The only argumentation that can take place in a forum is number crunching and those are in favor of Ions considering the viable loadouts that can come from using Ions and Neutrons and always thinking with MWD / Web / Scrambler / Sbomb fitted. Pain is meant to be felt
Juan Andalusian	Posted - 2004.07.21 09:04:00 - [54] Originally by: Ronyo Dae'Loki Try not using a 10MN AB and instead using what is supposed to be mounted, a 1MN MWD. Because those setups suck. Well, I suppose if they are for PvE they would work ok, but Taranis isn't really cut out for that. This for me proves you have a good clue of what's going on. However from my part simply saying "Yes, i have the combat experience" is silly in a forum, so i will refrain. I can't hope to persuade you like this nor do i aim to. The only argumentation that can take place in a forum is number crunching and those are in favor of Ions considering the viable loadouts that can come from using Ions and Neutrons and always thinking with MWD / Web / Scrambler / Sbomb fitted. Pain is meant to be felt
Juan Andalusian	Posted - 2004.07.21 09:20:00 - [55] Originally by: jukriamrr look guys, this originally was a post on how to fit a taranis. not knowing who has the biggest.. rooster rooster :) Ok i wouldn't touch those loadouts you suggested with a 10 foot pole. (for PvP... even with a scrambler instead of a Shield booster) 1mn MWD > 10mn AB. Ever tried hitting a battleship that is moving at a trasversial of 2500m/s? Webbed? means you are in range why is yer MWD still on? you were MWD orbitting a missile BS and got webbed? AB or MWD same deal if it scrambled as well you die. Approaching? Large turrets can't hit you anyway. Mediums might get a couple of hits. Why are you locked before you reached orbit distance? You picked the wrong target at the wrong distance. Extra shield? rofl. Extra Cap? the low slots saved with the use of a MWD will counter that. Imho Ions > Neutrons. Lighter loadouts, better tracking, better damage if loaded properly. Taranis is a **y PvE ship. Pain is meant to be felt**
Juan Andalusian	Posted - 2004.07.21 09:20:00 - [56] Originally by: jukriamrr look guys, this originally was a post on how to fit a taranis. not knowing who has the biggest.. rooster rooster :) Ok i wouldn't touch those loadouts you suggested with a 10 foot pole. (for PvP... even with a scrambler instead of a Shield booster) 1mn MWD > 10mn AB. Ever tried hitting a battleship that is moving at a trasversial of 2500m/s? Webbed? means you are in range why is yer MWD still on? you were MWD orbitting a missile BS and got webbed? AB or MWD same deal if it scrambled as well you die. Approaching? Large turrets can't hit you anyway. Mediums might get a couple of hits. Why are you locked before you reached orbit distance? You picked the wrong target at the wrong distance. Extra shield? rofl. Extra Cap? the low slots saved with the use of a MWD will counter that. Imho Ions > Neutrons. Lighter loadouts, better tracking, better damage if loaded properly. Taranis is a **y PvE ship. Pain is meant to be felt**
Grabtharr	Posted - 2004.07.21 20:24:00 - [57] Originally by: Xanz Trust me when I say Ronyo knows how to fly and fit a Taranis. Sorry, whether or not he thinks he can fly a Taranis, hes giving bad advice. Using an MWD on a frig anymore is just plain stupid. With a good cheap names 10mn AB you can get 3k out of a Taranis and not show up like a cruiser to the guns of the enemy. Tried and tested here. I have ceptor 5 and can fly Minmatar and Gallente interceptors and ABs are the only option unless your doing courier missions
Grabtharr	Posted - 2004.07.21 20:24:00 - [58] Originally by: Xanz Trust me when I say Ronyo knows how to fly and fit a Taranis. Sorry, whether or not he thinks he can fly a Taranis, hes giving bad advice. Using an MWD on a frig anymore is just plain stupid. With a good cheap names 10mn AB you can get 3k out of a Taranis and not show up like a cruiser to the guns of the enemy. Tried and tested here. I have ceptor 5 and can fly Minmatar and Gallente interceptors and ABs are the only option unless your doing courier missions
Grabtharr	Posted - 2004.07.21 20:31:00 - [59] Originally by: Juan Andalusian Originally by: jukriamrr look guys, this originally was a post on how to fit a taranis. not knowing who has the biggest.. rooster rooster :) Ok i wouldn't touch those loadouts you suggested with a 10 foot pole. (for PvP... even with a scrambler instead of a Shield booster) 1mn MWD > 10mn AB. Ever tried hitting a battleship that is moving at a trasversial of 2500m/s? Webbed? means you are in range why is yer MWD still on? you were MWD orbitting a missile BS and got webbed? AB or MWD same deal if it scrambled as well you die. Approaching? Large turrets can't hit you anyway. Mediums might get a couple of hits. Why are you locked before you reached orbit distance? You picked the wrong target at the wrong distance. Extra shield? rofl. Extra Cap? the low slots saved with the use of a MWD will counter that. Imho Ions > Neutrons. Lighter loadouts, better tracking, better damage if loaded properly. Taranis is a ****y PvE ship. You can PvE quite easily in a Taranis with the following: 3x Gauss proto 125s 1 fleeting prog webber 1 named 10mn AB 1 cap II 2 micro aux and a mag stab II.
Grabtharr	Posted - 2004.07.21 20:31:00 - [60] Originally by: Juan Andalusian Originally by: jukriamrr look guys, this originally was a post on how to fit a taranis. not knowing who has the biggest.. rooster rooster :) Ok i wouldn't touch those loadouts you suggested with a 10 foot pole. (for PvP... even with a scrambler instead of a Shield booster) 1mn MWD > 10mn AB. Ever tried hitting a battleship that is moving at a trasversial of 2500m/s? Webbed? means you are in range why is yer MWD still on? you were MWD orbitting a missile BS and got webbed? AB or MWD same deal if it scrambled as well you die. Approaching? Large turrets can't hit you anyway. Mediums might get a couple of hits. Why are you locked before you reached orbit distance? You picked the wrong target at the wrong distance. Extra shield? rofl. Extra Cap? the low slots saved with the use of a MWD will counter that. Imho Ions > Neutrons. Lighter loadouts, better tracking, better damage if loaded properly. Taranis is a ****y PvE ship. You can PvE quite easily in a Taranis with the following: 3x Gauss proto 125s 1 fleeting prog webber 1 named 10mn AB 1 cap II 2 micro aux and a mag stab II.

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