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WA Dragon
Caldari
108 Field Squadron RM RE
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Posted - 2008.12.29 21:34:00 -
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has there been a patch note i have misse where empier belts no longer reaspawn? or has the Orca killed all the mining off I mean even belts that usualy go igorned such as belts in systems with no station even those and gone now Has the Orca had such a masive effect on the mining in eve?
To be or not to be......sorry can you repeat the question? |
Maj Kaji
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Posted - 2008.12.29 21:40:00 -
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Yes There all gone because i Ate them with my hulk.
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Milla Jovo
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Posted - 2008.12.29 21:45:00 -
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i have seen groups of 6 people mining with 4 hulks 1 itty 5 and an orca,
I moved to the next belt and with in 5 min. they are mining the belt im in with no regard for the roids im mining they just come in on top of me and start ming after 30 min. the roids are gone and they they move on to the next belt. and this is in .9 space. it only affects new and solo players so most people will careless about it. It's things like this that will bring down EVE
nuff said
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2008.12.29 21:47:00 -
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There is an unlimited amount of Veldspar and other low end ores available anywhere you like to mine them if you know where to look.
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Ideas for: Mining
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Goyda
Destry's Lounge
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Posted - 2008.12.29 21:50:00 -
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I still say that any asteroid that is depleted shoudn't respawn for 1 week. Unless it is a gravimetric site.
Won't that make carebear life more interesting. :)
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2008.12.29 21:53:00 -
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It was me, I finished the last of the Veldspar roids in Amarr 8-6 just now.
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Commander Yassir
The Seven Sins
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Posted - 2008.12.29 21:56:00 -
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Its all Chribbas fault.
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Arvald
Caldari
Ninjas N Pirates
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Posted - 2008.12.29 22:03:00 -
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just mine out missions, you get the mission rewards + over 5m of trit depending on the mission
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AkRoYeR
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.12.29 22:18:00 -
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 Originally by: Goyda
I still say that any asteroid that is depleted shoudn't respawn for 1 week. Unless it is a gravimetric site.
Won't that make carebear life more interesting. :)
Yes, and make it so players with negative sec status cannot enter empire more than 1 time a week. That would make things salty for noncarebear types as well. :)
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Gridwalker
Amarr
Divine Power.
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.29 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: Goyda
I still say that any asteroid that is depleted shoudn't respawn for 1 week. Unless it is a gravimetric site.
Won't that make carebear life more interesting. :)
Nope. And it will end up making your life a LOT less interesting, as well. Remember that we build your ships. We build your modules and your rigs. Soon, we'll be building your implants.
Do you really want to pay 500m isk for a Raven, if you can even find one? Do you really want to pay five, ten, twenty times as much for all ships and modules?
Do you really want to see your CEO ****ed when you AREN'T mining? "All PvP and non-industry related activities must cease immediately. We are critically low on all minerals, and we can't afford to keep paying half a billion isk for Ravens you guys go through like water. All characters MUST fit a mining ship and there will be mandatory mining ops for the next three weeks while we recoup our losses!"
Actually, that might be a good idea. It sure would make wars hurt when entire alliances are waiting for the carebears to gather enough mins to build ships and modules! 
-Grid
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Warspawn
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Posted - 2008.12.29 22:51:00 -
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Really, those that can afford Orcas can afford to mine in low sec and leave the stuff .5 and above to folks mining to advance their character. Let Coveters, Procurers, Retrievers mine in hi sec, let the rest venture out to where there's a bit of risk involved. If you've made it to Orcas and Hulks, I'm sure you can afford to make some friends in areas to mine in, or hire them. Of course if you're an isk farmer that wants to afk/Macro mine in hi-sec, I can see why you'd be opposed to this idea.
Even wrap it up in a story about how Concord forbids the larger ships like Hulks and Orcas from polluting hi-sec space with the debris from their operations. Smaller ships have less impact on the environment near larger population areas...
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Tua consilia omnia nobis clariora sunt quam lux. Tu delenda est...
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WA Dragon
Caldari
108 Field Squadron RM RE
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Posted - 2008.12.29 23:02:00 -
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Well the Orca has changed the way miners work 3 hulks and a fully riged Orca can fully clear a belt in a very short time with or with out a station in system. I have an Orca and think its a totaly brill ship, but I can't help thinking CCP have not fully thought this through (nothing unusual there then) Well players from casual to no life eve junkies will soon have nothing to do as ship will be so expensive and ore in short supply because belts have not been given the time to respawn. I saw 3 hulks and an orca mining a very thin belt when I asked what was the point I got the reply " this is as good as it gets now" A skilled miner able to strip belts in his stride has it would seem wasted his time becomming such a good mine to have it all taken away again. We lost all the skilling time when the missile nerf arrived have we been kicked in the nads again. More proper balance is called for in stead of rushed desisions please put a little more thought into some thing before implementing it.
Yes I am soon to quit eve and no you can't have my stuff I am going to give it to noobs. 3 accounts = 9 chars bite the dust its been fun alot of the time. Jan 1st I log off for the last time.
To be or not to be......sorry can you repeat the question? |
AkRoYeR
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.12.29 23:08:00 -
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Originally by: WA Dragon
Well the Orca has changed the way miners work 3 hulks and a fully riged Orca can fully clear a belt in a very short time with or with out a station in system. I have an Orca and think its a totaly brill ship, but I can't help thinking CCP have not fully thought this through (nothing unusual there then) Well players from casual to no life eve junkies will soon have nothing to do as ship will be so expensive and ore in short supply because belts have not been given the time to respawn. I saw 3 hulks and an orca mining a very thin belt when I asked what was the point I got the reply " this is as good as it gets now" A skilled miner able to strip belts in his stride has it would seem wasted his time becomming such a good mine to have it all taken away again. We lost all the skilling time when the missile nerf arrived have we been kicked in the nads again. More proper balance is called for in stead of rushed desisions please put a little more thought into some thing before implementing it.
Yes I am soon to quit eve and no you can't have my stuff I am going to give it to noobs. 3 accounts = 9 chars bite the dust its been fun alot of the time. Jan 1st I log off for the last time.
 /yawn see you a couple weeks after you **cough** quit for good! lol
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Malarkie
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Posted - 2008.12.29 23:14:00 -
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Originally by: WA Dragon
Well the Orca has changed the way miners work 3 hulks and a fully riged Orca can fully clear a belt in a very short time with or with out a station in system. I have an Orca and think its a totaly brill ship, but I can't help thinking CCP have not fully thought this through (nothing unusual there then) Well players from casual to no life eve junkies will soon have nothing to do as ship will be so expensive and ore in short supply because belts have not been given the time to respawn. I saw 3 hulks and an orca mining a very thin belt when I asked what was the point I got the reply " this is as good as it gets now" A skilled miner able to strip belts in his stride has it would seem wasted his time becomming such a good mine to have it all taken away again. We lost all the skilling time when the missile nerf arrived have we been kicked in the nads again. More proper balance is called for in stead of rushed desisions please put a little more thought into some thing before implementing it.
Yes I am soon to quit eve and no you can't have my stuff I am going to give it to noobs. 3 accounts = 9 chars bite the dust its been fun alot of the time. Jan 1st I log off for the last time.
Since I'm a noob, can I have your stuff?
btw: this was an orca thread and you actually managed to try and twist it into a missile nerf whine.
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WA Dragon
Caldari
108 Field Squadron RM RE
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Posted - 2008.12.29 23:24:00 -
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Originally by: Malarkie
btw: this was an orca thread and you actually managed to try and twist it into a missile nerf whine.
Its a missile twist now I just used that as an example you took it to the extream nice twist on the twist you twisting twister.
FLAME ON 
To be or not to be......sorry can you repeat the question? |
TimMc
Gallente
Brutal Deliverance
OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2008.12.29 23:56:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Yassir
Its all Chribbas fault.
This. Veldnaught > Orca
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.12.30 00:01:00 -
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Originally by: Abrazzar
There is an unlimited amount of Veldspar and other low end ores available anywhere you like to mine them if you know where to look.
Translation: "Mine the asteroid in the missions, but I must put it like it was a big secret."
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Beet Head
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.12.30 00:04:00 -
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E M P I R E
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Marcus Xavier
Minmatar
Xavier Institute for Higher Learning
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Posted - 2008.12.30 00:05:00 -
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If you only need Veldspar, run a few Level 1 or 2 encounter missions until you're satisfied with the ore quantity in your private 'roid reserve that can last up to a week.
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WA Dragon
Caldari
108 Field Squadron RM RE
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Posted - 2008.12.30 00:15:00 -
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Originally by: Marcus Xavier
If you only need Veldspar, run a few Level 1 or 2 encounter missions until you're satisfied with the ore quantity in your private 'roid reserve that can last up to a week.
GASP!! isant farming a none accepted exploit BAN the bad person CCP for advertising such wickedness.
To be or not to be......sorry can you repeat the question? |
Breaker77
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Posted - 2008.12.30 00:17:00 -
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Originally by: Venkul Mul
Originally by: Abrazzar
There is an unlimited amount of Veldspar and other low end ores available anywhere you like to mine them if you know where to look.
Translation: "Mine the asteroid in the missions, but I must put it like it was a big secret."
Actually the translation was find the systems with 20+ belts and roids with over 50k in each that are right next to 500+ people mission hubs. Yes they do exist. 1 billion ISK and I will reveal just such a system 
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.12.30 00:40:00 -
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Originally by: WA Dragon
Originally by: Marcus Xavier
If you only need Veldspar, run a few Level 1 or 2 encounter missions until you're satisfied with the ore quantity in your private 'roid reserve that can last up to a week.
GASP!! isant farming a none accepted exploit BAN the bad person CCP for advertising such wickedness.
Sigh. I suppose you get all your isk pirating or trading, as doing missions is farming, mining is farming, ratting is farming.
What is proibited is isk selling.
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ShardowRhino
Caldari
Legion 0f The Damned
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Posted - 2008.12.30 00:48:00 -
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man, this thread sucks. Just thought id let you guys know. While reading this i swore i heard a vacuum cleaner running but realized it was coming from the thread.
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NSSQUAD
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Posted - 2008.12.30 00:53:00 -
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ok i wanna say i got into a hulk early in my eve account now i pvp but i know what you guys mean. low sec the size of the roids arnt bad but empire it looks damn near impassible to come across a belt worth busting the hulk out for
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Batolemaeus
Caldari
Free-Space-Ranger
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.12.30 01:07:00 -
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Came in hoping that Morsus Mihi suddenly gained a monopoly on Veldspar.
Left disappointed. 
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Originally by: CCP Prism X
In New Eden, EVE wins you.
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Boetox
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Posted - 2008.12.30 01:27:00 -
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So now all those belts that have been left to them selves are being striped. Let's see what happens to the market for minerals. My guess is a price drop since supply will out weight demand.
Making it allot easier to buy the building materials with mission bounties. Possibly the cost of player made items will drop too.
Also will make it harder for high sec industrials to make ISK, and maybe force them closer to low sec.
I dont see anything wrong with this potential. If it does have this effect I hope every belt in Empire gets stripped down the first day it spawns.
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Ecnav
Gallente
Vapor Corp.
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Posted - 2008.12.30 01:35:00 -
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I figure that once all the hi sec ore is mined out, low sec will suddenly become an option.
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Dantes Revenge
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.12.30 02:33:00 -
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Originally by: Ecnav
I figure that once all the hi sec ore is mined out, low sec will suddenly become an option.
then things get interesting.
Dream on.
There is no such thing as an isk loss being an option. CCP would have to vastly increase the Zydrine content of Jaspet and Hemorphite before it makes lowsec mining viable. 8 for Jaspet and 28 for Hemorphite means:
4K of jaspet = 8K m3 or a full hold for a hulk. 500 refine units and 8 untis of zyd on each refine with perfect refining. That gives 64 Zydrine per full cargo of a hulk.
2666 units of Hemorphite = 7998m3. Also 500 units with 28 units of zyd for each refine. That equates to 140 units of zyd for each hulk load.
Call it 5 minutes with bonuses to fill the hold. 768 zyd per hour for Jaspet and 1680 for Hemorphite. An average over estimate of Zyd prices now, call it 2500 isk gives you 160K isk/hour for Japset and 4 million per hour for Hemorphite. Maybe double that including the other minerals.
Now take away costs for protection since your PVP protection are not going to work for nothing, let's say 20% since you would logically have more miners than protection to make it profitable. Even for Hemorphite, that just over 6 million per hour per hulk.
Given the extreme amount of risk from lowsec piracy, I'd say most would start running missions in highsec instead, lvl4's including bounties are about as profitable as that per hour.
It would need a significant boost to high end mineral yields to make it an option.
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There's a simple difference between kinky and perverted. Kinky is using a feather to get her in the mood. Perverted is using the whole chicken.
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Maglorre
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Posted - 2008.12.30 02:52:00 -
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Originally by: WA Dragon
Well players from casual to no life eve junkies will soon have nothing to do as ship will be so expensive and ore in short supply because belts have not been given the time to respawn.
I bolded the part where your whine came unstuck
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BiggestT
Caldari
Resurrection
Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2008.12.30 03:07:00 -
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This is not a bad thing at all.
It have even been intended.
Now pilots may be pushed into low sec to mine, with it they wil lbring protection etc, which means expansion.
Expansion in EVE is never bad.
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