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Troll Loki
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Posted - 2004.07.23 09:03:00 -
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What do you think of two servers. One for PvPers where all systems are concord and sentry free and one for them Carebears where no pvp can occur. This way the PvPers can roam empire without trouble finding prey and those PvErs can mine their ark as much they wont without trouble from Player killers.
How about that idea ? One PvP server and one PvE 
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Troll Loki
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Posted - 2004.07.23 09:03:00 -
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What do you think of two servers. One for PvPers where all systems are concord and sentry free and one for them Carebears where no pvp can occur. This way the PvPers can roam empire without trouble finding prey and those PvErs can mine their ark as much they wont without trouble from Player killers.
How about that idea ? One PvP server and one PvE 
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Neil Crow
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Posted - 2004.07.23 09:07:00 -
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Your nick fits this topic pretty good. So, let me get this straight: One server with UBER rich miners and producers, lots of items, One esrver with PvPers who can't fly anything bigger than an Ibis since all the producers are on the other server.
Correct?
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Neil Crow
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Posted - 2004.07.23 09:07:00 -
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Your nick fits this topic pretty good. So, let me get this straight: One server with UBER rich miners and producers, lots of items, One esrver with PvPers who can't fly anything bigger than an Ibis since all the producers are on the other server.
Correct?
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Pa1nbringr
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Posted - 2004.07.23 09:08:00 -
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this game wouldn't be what it is without us ----------------------
Fedaykin Naib > eh this is boring, think im going to go choke one out Pa1nbringr > sick Fedaykin Naib > lol
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Pa1nbringr
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Posted - 2004.07.23 09:08:00 -
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this game wouldn't be what it is without us ----------------------
Fedaykin Naib > eh this is boring, think im going to go choke one out Pa1nbringr > sick Fedaykin Naib > lol
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Svodair
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Posted - 2004.07.23 09:13:00 -
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... and we could call one Felucia, and the other Trammel !
O nevermind, flashbacks are bad.
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Svodair
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Posted - 2004.07.23 09:13:00 -
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... and we could call one Felucia, and the other Trammel !
O nevermind, flashbacks are bad.
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Kel Shek
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Posted - 2004.07.23 09:14:00 -
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yeah... no offense, but that idea pretty much sucks.
it simply wouldn't work.
as much as this conflict would appear to be a negative, really the "two sides" are codependent. there would be less market for the things the miners and producers make without Player based conflicts, and the PvP'ers are doing PvP... not mining and producing ships weapons, ammo, items... ect. and someone has to use basic equipment before you can have everyoen using named stuff....
besides, that aside, challenge and risk are what make things fun and interesting, and make accomplishments worth thinking about.
~~~~~ To see a World in a Grain of Sand And Heaven in a Wild Flower Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand And Eternity in an hour ~~William Blake |

Kel Shek
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Posted - 2004.07.23 09:14:00 -
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yeah... no offense, but that idea pretty much sucks.
it simply wouldn't work.
as much as this conflict would appear to be a negative, really the "two sides" are codependent. there would be less market for the things the miners and producers make without Player based conflicts, and the PvP'ers are doing PvP... not mining and producing ships weapons, ammo, items... ect. and someone has to use basic equipment before you can have everyoen using named stuff....
besides, that aside, challenge and risk are what make things fun and interesting, and make accomplishments worth thinking about.
~~~~~ To see a World in a Grain of Sand And Heaven in a Wild Flower Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand And Eternity in an hour ~~William Blake |

Miso
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Posted - 2004.07.23 09:41:00 -
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Umm, who in Gods name would want to play a game with no risk in it? What the hell would be the point?
I know, why not have a server where you stay docked, and all you have to do is press 'm' on the keyboard and 1bn isk is added to your account with each keypress?
I mean, come one... if you dont want risk, go and play one of those ghey no-pvp fairy and elves games.
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.07.23 09:41:00 -
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Umm, who in Gods name would want to play a game with no risk in it? What the hell would be the point?
I know, why not have a server where you stay docked, and all you have to do is press 'm' on the keyboard and 1bn isk is added to your account with each keypress?
I mean, come one... if you dont want risk, go and play one of those ghey no-pvp fairy and elves games.
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Troll Loki
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Posted - 2004.07.23 09:47:00 -
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I think you people misunderstood I am pvper but I would like the Carebears to have their own server, that way they wont bother us. When it comes to producing I cant see any problem for us pvpers since we can easily fix that ourselfs
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Troll Loki
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Posted - 2004.07.23 09:47:00 -
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I think you people misunderstood I am pvper but I would like the Carebears to have their own server, that way they wont bother us. When it comes to producing I cant see any problem for us pvpers since we can easily fix that ourselfs
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Troll Loki
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Posted - 2004.07.23 09:48:00 -
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I think you people misunderstood me abit I am pvper but I would like the Carebears to have their own server, that way they wont bother us. When it comes to producing I cant see any problem for us pvpers since we can easily fix that ourselfs
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Troll Loki
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Posted - 2004.07.23 09:48:00 -
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I think you people misunderstood me abit I am pvper but I would like the Carebears to have their own server, that way they wont bother us. When it comes to producing I cant see any problem for us pvpers since we can easily fix that ourselfs
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Anjelle
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Posted - 2004.07.23 09:49:00 -
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Edited by: Anjelle on 23/07/2004 09:53:16
Originally by: Troll Loki What do you think of two servers. One for PvPers where all systems are concord and sentry free and one for them Carebears where no pvp can occur. This way the PvPers can roam empire without trouble finding prey and those PvErs can mine their ark as much they wont without trouble from Player killers.
How about that idea ? One PvP server and one PvE 
I don't think it would be such a hot idea.. Mixing the two is alot of fun, and I think that ultimately alot of the carebears wouldn't be authentic carebears when they harvested a few hundred billion ISK worth of ark and they suddenly notice that there is only such a high level of NPCs to fight. They'd get bored, and would suddenly want to join the other server, except then they'd have to start all over. Plus all the PVPers might be too much into fighting and you'd be left with fighters on one server and manufacturers on the other (as I believe someone above me wrote, just thought I'd say that I agree), which simply wouldn't make any sense. Not only is it fun to mix them, I think it's a balancing neccessity to mix them.
Somehow I just see it getting boring on the long run if you split them, plus the way it's built up right now is quite realistic and interesting, since the 0.0 is where PVPers mainly stay, and where cops aren't, and empire space is where the carebears stay. So just stick around 0.0 if you want more action. At the end of the day the reason the way it is now is better than your idea is because the two partitions (which would otherwise be seperate servers) have the ability to 'clash'.
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Anjelle
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Posted - 2004.07.23 09:49:00 -
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Edited by: Anjelle on 23/07/2004 09:53:16
Originally by: Troll Loki What do you think of two servers. One for PvPers where all systems are concord and sentry free and one for them Carebears where no pvp can occur. This way the PvPers can roam empire without trouble finding prey and those PvErs can mine their ark as much they wont without trouble from Player killers.
How about that idea ? One PvP server and one PvE 
I don't think it would be such a hot idea.. Mixing the two is alot of fun, and I think that ultimately alot of the carebears wouldn't be authentic carebears when they harvested a few hundred billion ISK worth of ark and they suddenly notice that there is only such a high level of NPCs to fight. They'd get bored, and would suddenly want to join the other server, except then they'd have to start all over. Plus all the PVPers might be too much into fighting and you'd be left with fighters on one server and manufacturers on the other (as I believe someone above me wrote, just thought I'd say that I agree), which simply wouldn't make any sense. Not only is it fun to mix them, I think it's a balancing neccessity to mix them.
Somehow I just see it getting boring on the long run if you split them, plus the way it's built up right now is quite realistic and interesting, since the 0.0 is where PVPers mainly stay, and where cops aren't, and empire space is where the carebears stay. So just stick around 0.0 if you want more action. At the end of the day the reason the way it is now is better than your idea is because the two partitions (which would otherwise be seperate servers) have the ability to 'clash'.
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Seleene
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Posted - 2004.07.23 09:51:00 -
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Edited by: Seleene on 23/07/2004 10:05:25 no. No. NO. NO!!!     
Not that this will ever happen (the Devs have repeatedly said so), but I cannot believe people still talk about this. Life is all about risk and so is EVE. That is why I love it so much.
One server to run them all!
Now go, Troll. Leave my game now. Get along! Shoo!  -
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Seleene
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Posted - 2004.07.23 09:51:00 -
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Edited by: Seleene on 23/07/2004 10:05:25 no. No. NO. NO!!!     
Not that this will ever happen (the Devs have repeatedly said so), but I cannot believe people still talk about this. Life is all about risk and so is EVE. That is why I love it so much.
One server to run them all!
Now go, Troll. Leave my game now. Get along! Shoo!  -
T2 Weapons Testing in progress! Volunteer today! |

Miso
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Posted - 2004.07.23 09:52:00 -
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Originally by: Troll Loki I think you people misunderstood I am pvper but I would like the Carebears to have their own server, that way they wont bother us. When it comes to producing I cant see any problem for us pvpers since we can easily fix that ourselfs
Still, worst idea ever. No one benefits and what sets Eve apart from all the 100 other dull hack and slash fests out there is that everyone is in on one server, in one persistant world. If you dont like that, then dont play Eve, and that goes for PvP'ers and non PvP'ers. Take it or leave it. -------------------------------------------- Dead
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.07.23 09:52:00 -
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Originally by: Troll Loki I think you people misunderstood I am pvper but I would like the Carebears to have their own server, that way they wont bother us. When it comes to producing I cant see any problem for us pvpers since we can easily fix that ourselfs
Still, worst idea ever. No one benefits and what sets Eve apart from all the 100 other dull hack and slash fests out there is that everyone is in on one server, in one persistant world. If you dont like that, then dont play Eve, and that goes for PvP'ers and non PvP'ers. Take it or leave it. -------------------------------------------- Dead
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Gunstar Zero
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Posted - 2004.07.23 09:57:00 -
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Originally by: Svodair ... and we could call one Felucia, and the other Trammel !
O nevermind, flashbacks are bad.
Exactly what I thought when I read this.
perhaps we could use moongates to travel between the two. Not.
Never do this, pls. Same as is, is perfect.
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Gunstar Zero
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Posted - 2004.07.23 09:57:00 -
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Originally by: Svodair ... and we could call one Felucia, and the other Trammel !
O nevermind, flashbacks are bad.
Exactly what I thought when I read this.
perhaps we could use moongates to travel between the two. Not.
Never do this, pls. Same as is, is perfect.
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2004.07.23 09:57:00 -
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No chance, literally  -
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2004.07.23 09:57:00 -
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No chance, literally  -
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Silver Night
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Posted - 2004.07.23 10:02:00 -
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As a carebear, I'd like to voice my disagreement with this idea as well. Without PvPers, my markets would all dry up, and that would be terribly unfortunate :|. ------------------ Silver Night Director - Production and Science (\_/)This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature (O.o)to help him on his way to World Domination. (> <) |

Silver Night
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Posted - 2004.07.23 10:02:00 -
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As a carebear, I'd like to voice my disagreement with this idea as well. Without PvPers, my markets would all dry up, and that would be terribly unfortunate :|. ------------------ Silver Night Director - Production and Science (\_/)This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature (O.o)to help him on his way to World Domination. (> <) |

allmus
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Posted - 2004.07.23 10:05:00 -
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how about this for an idea then..... keep the servers how there are, and open a special jumpgate in a 1.0 system, have that jumpgate warp players to a special set of systems that are all 0.0, all have super-rat's in them, no roids, just 8-10 systems where PvP can run around and kill eachother all they want, no law, no riods(means no miners there to pray on) it would be a kind of battle pocket of systems, also have it based on a new server with a link from the current one so players there don't suffer from super lagg as too many players in same grid. PvP only place , it would let them kill themselves all day long, also with the superrat's there(like 5 1 mill isk BS's in 1 spawn)it would give others a reason to hunt there!
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allmus
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Posted - 2004.07.23 10:05:00 -
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how about this for an idea then..... keep the servers how there are, and open a special jumpgate in a 1.0 system, have that jumpgate warp players to a special set of systems that are all 0.0, all have super-rat's in them, no roids, just 8-10 systems where PvP can run around and kill eachother all they want, no law, no riods(means no miners there to pray on) it would be a kind of battle pocket of systems, also have it based on a new server with a link from the current one so players there don't suffer from super lagg as too many players in same grid. PvP only place , it would let them kill themselves all day long, also with the superrat's there(like 5 1 mill isk BS's in 1 spawn)it would give others a reason to hunt there!
this post was funded by Quafe now available in minmatar red. try our new product. Quafe's caldari version "press missiles 4TW" limited sales offer before the next universal improvement |
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