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Silver Night
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Posted - 2004.07.23 10:07:00 -
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Silver Night shakes his head in dispair at the people who don't understand why the "solutions" posted are horrible, horrible ideas...
It's pretty much just fine the way it is. You can avoid PvP if you want to, or you can join it, no need to change it.
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Silver Night
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Posted - 2004.07.23 10:07:00 -
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Silver Night shakes his head in dispair at the people who don't understand why the "solutions" posted are horrible, horrible ideas...
It's pretty much just fine the way it is. You can avoid PvP if you want to, or you can join it, no need to change it.
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Silver Night
Director - Production and Science
(\_/)This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature
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Seleene
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Posted - 2004.07.23 10:09:00 -
[33]
Leave my game alone, damnit!
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Seleene
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Posted - 2004.07.23 10:09:00 -
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Leave my game alone, damnit!
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ClarCE
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Posted - 2004.07.23 10:10:00 -
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Bad plan there dude.
EvE works the way it does for a reason. Eventually all of the people on the miner/production server would get bored and leave the game seeing as there'd be no purpose for them.
Miners / Producers / Researchers Support the PvP element of EvE, without the PvP you would have nothing to sell. Pirate PvP'ers continue to shoot 'you' which keeps someone else in business.
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ClarCE
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Posted - 2004.07.23 10:10:00 -
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Bad plan there dude.
EvE works the way it does for a reason. Eventually all of the people on the miner/production server would get bored and leave the game seeing as there'd be no purpose for them.
Miners / Producers / Researchers Support the PvP element of EvE, without the PvP you would have nothing to sell. Pirate PvP'ers continue to shoot 'you' which keeps someone else in business.
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Jenny...Get to the Chopper---Stick Around
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.07.23 10:10:00 -
[37]
 Originally by: allmus
how about this for an idea then.....
keep the servers how there are, and open a special jumpgate in a 1.0 system, have that jumpgate warp players to a special set of systems that are all 0.0, all have super-rat's in them, no roids, just 8-10 systems where PvP can run around and kill eachother all they want, no law, no riods(means no miners there to pray on) it would be a kind of battle pocket of systems, also have it based on a new server with a link from the current one so players there don't suffer from super lagg as too many players in same grid.
PvP only place , it would let them kill themselves all day long, also with the superrat's there(like 5 1 mill isk BS's in 1 spawn)it would give others a reason to hunt there!
Please, no more "bright ideas". Game is fine as it is. Its the players that need working on.
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.07.23 10:10:00 -
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Originally by: allmus
how about this for an idea then.....
keep the servers how there are, and open a special jumpgate in a 1.0 system, have that jumpgate warp players to a special set of systems that are all 0.0, all have super-rat's in them, no roids, just 8-10 systems where PvP can run around and kill eachother all they want, no law, no riods(means no miners there to pray on) it would be a kind of battle pocket of systems, also have it based on a new server with a link from the current one so players there don't suffer from super lagg as too many players in same grid.
PvP only place, it would let them kill themselves all day long, also with the superrat's there(like 5 1 mill isk BS's in 1 spawn)it would give others a reason to hunt there!
Please, no more "bright ideas". Game is fine as it is. Its the players that need working on.
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2004.07.23 10:14:00 -
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The whole point of wars and stuff is that it is non-consentual. Just like real world, that is what makes eve so special. It's not about blowing stuff up, it's about being FORCED to blow stuff up in order to survive.
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2004.07.23 10:14:00 -
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The whole point of wars and stuff is that it is non-consentual. Just like real world, that is what makes eve so special. It's not about blowing stuff up, it's about being FORCED to blow stuff up in order to survive.
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2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage. |
Davich MacGregor
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Posted - 2004.07.23 10:33:00 -
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Edited by: Davich MacGregor on 23/07/2004 10:34:56
Problem? What problem. Been playing since beta and I've seen no problem. Seen a couple of boatloads of whiners from both ends but no problems. So a better idea is to give the whiners their own servers so they leave the rest of us the hell alone.
Stellar Products and Quality Resources
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Davich MacGregor
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Posted - 2004.07.23 10:33:00 -
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Edited by: Davich MacGregor on 23/07/2004 10:34:56
Problem? What problem. Been playing since beta and I've seen no problem. Seen a couple of boatloads of whiners from both ends but no problems. So a better idea is to give the whiners their own servers so they leave the rest of us the hell alone.
Stellar Products and Quality Resources
ticker: SPQR
established 6-03
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Dukath
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Posted - 2004.07.23 10:34:00 -
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There is no such thing as pvE.
If you mine a roid you are in direct competition with me, you are mining the ore i want.
If you make a ship you are in direct competition with me, you sell your ship at a lower price than i do.
If you do a trade route you are in direct competition with me since now i can't do that trade route anymore.
if you shoot me you are in direct competition with me, ...
Everything in a MMORPG is PVP, carebears are just PVPers who are good in a different aspect of the PVP and thus they want to make the game more in their favour. However splitting the PVP into 2 different servers is the worst thing you can do
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Dukath
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Posted - 2004.07.23 10:34:00 -
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There is no such thing as pvE.
If you mine a roid you are in direct competition with me, you are mining the ore i want.
If you make a ship you are in direct competition with me, you sell your ship at a lower price than i do.
If you do a trade route you are in direct competition with me since now i can't do that trade route anymore.
if you shoot me you are in direct competition with me, ...
Everything in a MMORPG is PVP, carebears are just PVPers who are good in a different aspect of the PVP and thus they want to make the game more in their favour. However splitting the PVP into 2 different servers is the worst thing you can do
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2004.07.23 10:56:00 -
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Much love for Dukath, he nailed it roght in the kisser [:D}
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2004.07.23 10:56:00 -
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Much love for Dukath, he nailed it roght in the kisser [:D}
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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meowcat
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Posted - 2004.07.23 11:04:00 -
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there is no problem with PvP vs 'carebears'
we have concord and we have sec status for people and systems
what more do you want ffs?
sharding would be VERY BAD |
meowcat
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Posted - 2004.07.23 11:04:00 -
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there is no problem with PvP vs 'carebears'
we have concord and we have sec status for people and systems
what more do you want ffs?
sharding would be VERY BAD |
Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2004.07.23 11:36:00 -
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2 servers
1 were every1 sits docked in an ibis cos theres no market to buy anything from
1 were every1 has fleets and fleets of BS and weapons coming out theyre ears but nuffin to do with em
sounds like a great idea
/end sarcasm
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2004.07.23 11:36:00 -
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2 servers
1 were every1 sits docked in an ibis cos theres no market to buy anything from
1 were every1 has fleets and fleets of BS and weapons coming out theyre ears but nuffin to do with em
sounds like a great idea
/end sarcasm
Forums: Sharks - MC |
Enraku Reynolt
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Posted - 2004.07.23 12:01:00 -
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Simply put
Ah HEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLL NA.
I been selling munitions since back in Sept. of the release year
Ive beeen to countless worlds and game to ...DAMN YOU REBOOT!!
my point is, Ive seen the "split world games" it stagnates rather quickly and kills any game
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Do not let the world change you.
Change the world
Here's everything I know about war: somebody wins, somebody loses, and nothing is ever the sa |
Enraku Reynolt
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Posted - 2004.07.23 12:01:00 -
[52]
Simply put
Ah HEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLL NA.
I been selling munitions since back in Sept. of the release year
Ive beeen to countless worlds and game to ...DAMN YOU REBOOT!!
my point is, Ive seen the "split world games" it stagnates rather quickly and kills any game
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Do not let the world change you.
Change the world
Here's everything I know about war: somebody wins, somebody loses, and nothing is ever the sa |
Kitten Hearder
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Posted - 2004.07.23 12:57:00 -
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Edited by: Kitten Hearder on 23/07/2004 12:59:53
Originally by: Troll Loki
How to solve the PvP versus Carebear problem ?
I was unaware there was a problem. Besides, if you want PvP you can go to the low security systems; if not, you can stay in high security. Am I the only one who knows this!? 
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Kitten Hearder
Evolution made my sig
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Kitten Hearder
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Posted - 2004.07.23 12:57:00 -
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Edited by: Kitten Hearder on 23/07/2004 12:59:53
Originally by: Troll Loki
How to solve the PvP versus Carebear problem ?
I was unaware there was a problem. Besides, if you want PvP you can go to the low security systems; if not, you can stay in high security. Am I the only one who knows this!?
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Kitten Hearder
Evolution made my sig
Less Entertaining
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Troll Loki
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Posted - 2004.07.23 21:29:00 -
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Edited by: Troll Loki on 23/07/2004 21:30:26
Oh oh oh What a lil flamewar hehe
Of course we cant get rid of the carebears. Who else would we shoot, ransom, dominate, harass etc. And who will mine our low end ores if it isnt the carebears.
Eve is not about either PvP or PvE. Its about Power and domination of others. CEOs and alliance leaders rule their pvp members to control areas and lockout out the carebears. That way forcing the large majority of gamers to grind Veldspar while they themselves can take some minutes off mining Ark.
PvP in Eve consist mainly of smacktalking in either stations or safespots. In some very rare occasions there will be fleetbattle but that rarely happens, most of the time its indy ganking.
The only honourably corps I have respect for is Evolution, Mo0, Reikoku and alike. They roam space as they like. They dont hinder anyone from playing the game the way they want. There is no alliance in Eve that can stop these corps and that brings hope to Eve.
I wished I could join them but I lack the skills and experience to do so 
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Troll Loki
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Posted - 2004.07.23 21:29:00 -
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Edited by: Troll Loki on 23/07/2004 21:30:26
Oh oh oh What a lil flamewar hehe
Of course we cant get rid of the carebears. Who else would we shoot, ransom, dominate, harass etc. And who will mine our low end ores if it isnt the carebears.
Eve is not about either PvP or PvE. Its about Power and domination of others. CEOs and alliance leaders rule their pvp members to control areas and lockout out the carebears. That way forcing the large majority of gamers to grind Veldspar while they themselves can take some minutes off mining Ark.
PvP in Eve consist mainly of smacktalking in either stations or safespots. In some very rare occasions there will be fleetbattle but that rarely happens, most of the time its indy ganking.
The only honourably corps I have respect for is Evolution, Mo0, Reikoku and alike. They roam space as they like. They dont hinder anyone from playing the game the way they want. There is no alliance in Eve that can stop these corps and that brings hope to Eve.
I wished I could join them but I lack the skills and experience to do so
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Hematic
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Posted - 2004.07.23 21:38:00 -
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Yeah Mythic tried that and created a PvP all the time type thing on two different servers. After the novelty wore off they closed one of the servers and now most of the time there's barely enough pop to have that one.
It's a weird symbiotic relationship. As much as people moan, one group really does need the other group, if for nothing else than to have something to complain about.
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Hematic
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Posted - 2004.07.23 21:38:00 -
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Yeah Mythic tried that and created a PvP all the time type thing on two different servers. After the novelty wore off they closed one of the servers and now most of the time there's barely enough pop to have that one.
It's a weird symbiotic relationship. As much as people moan, one group really does need the other group, if for nothing else than to have something to complain about.
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Fester Addams
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Posted - 2004.07.23 21:55:00 -
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There is no PvP vs carebear problem.
There is a minor PK vs carebear problem but if the PKers just hunt in the areas where PK is suposed to be taking place then there will be no problem.
I have before and will now point out the difference between PvP and PK:
PvP: player vs player, both players want to fight and are fitted for fighting.
PK: Only the attacker wants to fight and preferebly fight an oponent that is unable to defend him/herself.
Lastly here I would like to point out that PK is allowed in eve even if its regionally restricted but lets not call PvP PK or PK PvP.
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Fester Addams
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Posted - 2004.07.23 21:55:00 -
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There is no PvP vs carebear problem.
There is a minor PK vs carebear problem but if the PKers just hunt in the areas where PK is suposed to be taking place then there will be no problem.
I have before and will now point out the difference between PvP and PK:
PvP: player vs player, both players want to fight and are fitted for fighting.
PK: Only the attacker wants to fight and preferebly fight an oponent that is unable to defend him/herself.
Lastly here I would like to point out that PK is allowed in eve even if its regionally restricted but lets not call PvP PK or PK PvP.
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