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kor anon
Amarr The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.01.05 15:33:00 -
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Originally by: Arianhod "better 10 guilty walk free than one innocent incarcerated"
The most bull**** idea ever
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Arianhod
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Posted - 2009.01.05 16:03:00 -
[92]
Originally by: kor anon
Originally by: Arianhod "better 10 guilty walk free than one innocent incarcerated"
The most bull**** idea ever
Used to be a large part of when writing up laws and was hand in hand with the concept used until recently of "innocent until proven guilty".
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kor anon
Amarr The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.01.05 16:09:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Arianhod
Originally by: kor anon
Originally by: Arianhod "better 10 guilty walk free than one innocent incarcerated"
The most bull**** idea ever
Used to be a large part of when writing up laws and was hand in hand with the concept used until recently of "innocent until proven guilty".
yep. I agree with the innocent until proven guilty, but anything more than that is pretty absurd
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Bish Ounen
Gallente Best Path Inc. Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.01.05 17:30:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Shanzem Edited by: Shanzem on 04/01/2009 23:24:48
Originally by: Pan Crastus Have fun with the planted evidence on your PCs guys!
I have been wondering lately whether they put something in your drinking water in the UK (tranquilizers?) with all the stuff people are enduring there without getting upset, protesting (yeah I know it's not allowed anymore when it would be effective), riots etc. ... Maybe it's just the estrogene from the Pill that made the Brits' balls shrivel away.
Its called Alcohol,
Look up drinking culture and binge drinking.
But then this coming back to the English man`s dream isn't it?
As long as they stick to Alcohol and don't start using the Pax.
Tactical Logistics using the last T1 Frigate hull!
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Shanzem
Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.01.05 17:37:00 -
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Edited by: Shanzem on 05/01/2009 17:38:14
Originally by: Bish Ounen
Originally by: Shanzem Edited by: Shanzem on 04/01/2009 23:24:48
Originally by: Pan Crastus Have fun with the planted evidence on your PCs guys!
I have been wondering lately whether they put something in your drinking water in the UK (tranquilizers?) with all the stuff people are enduring there without getting upset, protesting (yeah I know it's not allowed anymore when it would be effective), riots etc. ... Maybe it's just the estrogene from the Pill that made the Brits' balls shrivel away.
Its called Alcohol,
Look up drinking culture and binge drinking.
But then this coming back to the English man`s dream isn't it?
As long as they stick to Alcohol and don't start using the Pax.

I wish they would use Pax. that way i don't have to feel the pain of watching my country slip into ****, because of the lack of tech savvy adults none of them are seeing the news articles and having no clue about there eroding rights.
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Ivana Drake
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Posted - 2009.01.05 18:07:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Shanzem

I wish they would use Pax. that way i don't have to feel the pain of watching my country slip into ****, because of the lack of tech savvy adults none of them are seeing the news articles and having no clue about there eroding rights.

It's mostly since government and media uses key words that we're sensitive to in order to justify their case. Raising tax on alcohol to "combat drink-related crime", censorship of websites to "protect" us from "unsafe content", detaining people without charge to "fight terrorism", speedcameras to "keep the roads safe" etc, and it's like everyone believes it 
Oh, that recent VAT change? It was supposed to make things cheaper for us, at least that's why the government told us. Of course they convieniantly forgot that most retailers round their prices up to the nearest ú - 1, so whilst that ú39.99 price did drop to ú39.13 for a few weeks, only now they just raised the EX: VAT accordingly so we're paying the original amount again. Oops.
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kor anon
Amarr The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.01.05 18:10:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Ivana Drake
Originally by: Shanzem

I wish they would use Pax. that way i don't have to feel the pain of watching my country slip into ****, because of the lack of tech savvy adults none of them are seeing the news articles and having no clue about there eroding rights.

It's mostly since government and media uses key words that we're sensitive to in order to justify their case. Raising tax on alcohol to "combat drink-related crime", censorship of websites to "protect" us from "unsafe content", detaining people without charge to "fight terrorism", speedcameras to "keep the roads safe" etc, and it's like everyone believes it 
Oh, that recent VAT change? It was supposed to make things cheaper for us, at least that's why the government told us. Of course they convieniantly forgot that most retailers round their prices up to the nearest ú - 1, so whilst that ú39.99 price did drop to ú39.13 for a few weeks, only now they just raised the EX: VAT accordingly so we're paying the original amount again. Oops.
Lol i dont believe people bought that cut in the first place 
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Shanzem
Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.01.05 18:11:00 -
[98]
Originally by: kor anon
Originally by: Ivana Drake
Originally by: Shanzem

I wish they would use Pax. that way i don't have to feel the pain of watching my country slip into ****, because of the lack of tech savvy adults none of them are seeing the news articles and having no clue about there eroding rights.

It's mostly since government and media uses key words that we're sensitive to in order to justify their case. Raising tax on alcohol to "combat drink-related crime", censorship of websites to "protect" us from "unsafe content", detaining people without charge to "fight terrorism", speedcameras to "keep the roads safe" etc, and it's like everyone believes it 
Oh, that recent VAT change? It was supposed to make things cheaper for us, at least that's why the government told us. Of course they convieniantly forgot that most retailers round their prices up to the nearest ú - 1, so whilst that ú39.99 price did drop to ú39.13 for a few weeks, only now they just raised the EX: VAT accordingly so we're paying the original amount again. Oops.
Lol i dont believe people bought that cut in the first place 
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Arianhod
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Posted - 2009.01.05 18:12:00 -
[99]
The VAT cut made me wonder if Mr Darling was smoking one of his eyebrows while penning that particular idea.
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kor anon
Amarr The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.01.05 18:15:00 -
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Originally by: Arianhod The VAT cut made me wonder if Mr Darling was smoking one of his eyebrows while penning that particular idea.
no it was a good idea, for the goverment at least. I expect them to hae thought it through fully, they knew it wouldn't make a difference, and you know what? The majority of the British mob bought it
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Shanzem
Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.01.05 18:17:00 -
[101]
Originally by: kor anon
Originally by: Arianhod The VAT cut made me wonder if Mr Darling was smoking one of his eyebrows while penning that particular idea.
no it was a good idea, for the goverment at least. I expect them to hae thought it through fully, they knew it wouldn't make a difference, and you know what? The majority of the British mob bought it
Nah the only people who would have brought into that is Chavs, the English adults ma be bad. but even there not that thick..
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Xen Gin
Universal Mining Inc Forged Dominion
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Posted - 2009.01.05 18:18:00 -
[102]
Originally by: kor anon
Originally by: Arianhod The VAT cut made me wonder if Mr Darling was smoking one of his eyebrows while penning that particular idea.
no it was a good idea, for the goverment at least. I expect them to hae thought it through fully, they knew it wouldn't make a difference, and you know what? The majority of the British mob bought it
Wow! I now save 21p for every ú10 I spend! I will be voting Labour next time (if there is a next time!)
Seriously, WTF. ------
Originally by: Rifter Drifter News just in..
Games are a pastime.. not a way of life.
If your not enjoying, stop playing, and don't post about it.
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Shanzem
Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.01.05 18:19:00 -
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Edited by: Shanzem on 05/01/2009 18:19:45
Originally by: Xen Gin
Originally by: kor anon
Originally by: Arianhod The VAT cut made me wonder if Mr Darling was smoking one of his eyebrows while penning that particular idea.
no it was a good idea, for the goverment at least. I expect them to hae thought it through fully, they knew it wouldn't make a difference, and you know what? The majority of the British mob bought it
Wow! I now save 21p for every ú10 I spend! I will be voting Labour next time (if there is a next time!)
Seriously, WTF.
This i HAVE to see
My money is the English do not get a vote. OR labour will win again.
Seriously Brown has promised too much to too many corporations. If you think conservatives are getting into power you sadly mistaken. -------------------------------------------
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2009.01.05 18:21:00 -
[104]
Originally by: kor anon
Originally by: Arianhod
Originally by: kor anon
Originally by: Arianhod "better 10 guilty walk free than one innocent incarcerated"
The most bull**** idea ever
Used to be a large part of when writing up laws and was hand in hand with the concept used until recently of "innocent until proven guilty".
yep. I agree with the innocent until proven guilty, but anything more than that is pretty absurd
No, you DO NOT agree with innocent until proven guilty, aka the presumption of innocence, because it's the same damn thing as "rather n guilty men go free, then one innocent convicted". Just a different way of saying it. The burden of proof being on the auhtorities is why those guilty go free.
Finland no longer upholds the presumption of innocence as supreme either. For certain "crimes", like speeding caught on automated surveillance, they have moved the burden of proof to the owner of the vehicle, and I believe many parts of the western world do the same.
First time I read about it, I think it was in Motor Trend or some such magazine and it was from the US, was during the 90's. The picture the guy got fined for was of a government owned pickup truck that for some reason had the same license plate number as the mans sedan, only with different type of plates. At the time I chuckled and thought, that would never happen in my country...
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Xen Gin
Universal Mining Inc Forged Dominion
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Posted - 2009.01.05 18:31:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Shanzem Edited by: Shanzem on 05/01/2009 18:19:45
Originally by: Xen Gin
Originally by: kor anon
Originally by: Arianhod The VAT cut made me wonder if Mr Darling was smoking one of his eyebrows while penning that particular idea.
no it was a good idea, for the goverment at least. I expect them to hae thought it through fully, they knew it wouldn't make a difference, and you know what? The majority of the British mob bought it
Wow! I now save 21p for every ú10 I spend! I will be voting Labour next time (if there is a next time!)
Seriously, WTF.
This i HAVE to see
My money is the English do not get a vote. OR labour will win again.
Seriously Brown has promised too much to too many corporations. If you think conservatives are getting into power you sadly mistaken.
Which is why I will be voting for Independence when the Assembly calls the vote. ------
Originally by: Rifter Drifter News just in..
Games are a pastime.. not a way of life.
If your not enjoying, stop playing, and don't post about it.
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kor anon
Amarr The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.01.05 18:31:00 -
[106]
Well i disagree, the whole purpose of innocent until proven guilty is to stop the authorities placing the burden of proof on you. Essentially they could say on sunday you murdered 2 people, do you have an alibi? If not you're boned.
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Arianhod
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Posted - 2009.01.05 18:33:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Xen Gin
Which is why I will be voting for Independence when the Assembly calls the vote.
Welsh assembly I assume?
Don't suppose you would be interested in joining us Scots and the Irish in a Federation perchance?
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kor anon
Amarr The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.01.05 18:34:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Arianhod
Originally by: Xen Gin
Which is why I will be voting for Independence when the Assembly calls the vote.
Welsh assembly I assume?
Don't suppose you would be interested in joining us Scots and the Irish in a Federation perchance?
You can do it if you want, but as soon as i gain power you'll come crawling back OR FACE THE CONSEQUENCES!!!!!! RAARRR
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Xen Gin
Universal Mining Inc Forged Dominion
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Posted - 2009.01.05 18:36:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Arianhod
Originally by: Xen Gin
Which is why I will be voting for Independence when the Assembly calls the vote.
Welsh assembly I assume?
Don't suppose you would be interested in joining us Scots and the Irish in a Federation perchance?
Hell, we'll even call it the Celtic Federation of States for good measure! ------
Originally by: Rifter Drifter News just in..
Games are a pastime.. not a way of life.
If your not enjoying, stop playing, and don't post about it.
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Arianhod
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Posted - 2009.01.05 18:36:00 -
[110]
Originally by: kor anon
Originally by: Arianhod
Originally by: Xen Gin
Which is why I will be voting for Independence when the Assembly calls the vote.
Welsh assembly I assume?
Don't suppose you would be interested in joining us Scots and the Irish in a Federation perchance?
You can do it if you want, but as soon as i gain power you'll come crawling back OR FACE THE CONSEQUENCES!!!!!! RAARRR
/me sends off an invite to Iceland to join this Federation - thus potentialy Bringing CCP into the Federations powah!
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Shanzem
Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.01.05 18:37:00 -
[111]
Edited by: Shanzem on 05/01/2009 18:37:01
Originally by: Xen Gin
Originally by: Arianhod
Originally by: Xen Gin
Which is why I will be voting for Independence when the Assembly calls the vote.
Welsh assembly I assume?
Don't suppose you would be interested in joining us Scots and the Irish in a Federation perchance?
Hell, we'll even call it the Celtic Federation of States for good measure!
And yet I am stuck with the scum,  -------------------------------------------
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Xen Gin
Universal Mining Inc Forged Dominion
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Posted - 2009.01.05 18:37:00 -
[112]
Edited by: Xen Gin on 05/01/2009 18:38:32
Originally by: kor anon
Originally by: Arianhod
Originally by: Xen Gin
Which is why I will be voting for Independence when the Assembly calls the vote.
Welsh assembly I assume?
Don't suppose you would be interested in joining us Scots and the Irish in a Federation perchance?
You can do it if you want, but as soon as i gain power you'll come crawling back OR FACE THE CONSEQUENCES!!!!!! RAARRR
Have you got a giant fricken laser?
Originally by: Shanzem
And yet I am stuck with the scum, 
I'm sure you could try and climb over the border fence, like some sort of Mexican. ------
Originally by: Rifter Drifter News just in..
Games are a pastime.. not a way of life.
If your not enjoying, stop playing, and don't post about it.
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Arianhod
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Posted - 2009.01.05 18:37:00 -
[113]
Edited by: Arianhod on 05/01/2009 18:38:51 Edited by: Arianhod on 05/01/2009 18:37:59
Originally by: Xen Gin
Originally by: Arianhod
Originally by: Xen Gin
Which is why I will be voting for Independence when the Assembly calls the vote.
Welsh assembly I assume?
Don't suppose you would be interested in joining us Scots and the Irish in a Federation perchance?
Hell, we'll even call it the Celtic Federation of States for good measure!
Why stop at Celtic? Rope in Scandinavia and Iceland 
We could (like East and West Germany) have an open invite for breakaway regions of England to join us, like Cornwall and Merseyside.
Originally by: kor anon You can do it if you want, but as soon as i gain power you'll come crawling back OR FACE THE CONSEQUENCES!!!!!! RAARRR
You do realise Scotland has the Trident subs right? 
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kor anon
Amarr The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.01.05 18:39:00 -
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You might as well get your independence recognized and join the EU, the'll be the new superstate if their plans go without a hitch
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kor anon
Amarr The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.01.05 18:40:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Xen Gin
Have you got a giant fricken laser?
No something more powerful, zealotry and a burning desire for total control 
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Xen Gin
Universal Mining Inc Forged Dominion
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Posted - 2009.01.05 18:41:00 -
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Originally by: Arianhod We could (like East and West Germany) have an open invite for breakaway regions of England to join us, like Cornwall and Merseyside.
Cornwall and Devon would go for it. Maybe Merseyside and Cheshire, Gloucestershire. All very useful people (We'd have to train the Liverpudlians up to a better standard I think, but they'd be OK) Plus we'd have Man United and Liverpool in our brand new football league. ------
Originally by: Rifter Drifter News just in..
Games are a pastime.. not a way of life.
If your not enjoying, stop playing, and don't post about it.
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Xen Gin
Universal Mining Inc Forged Dominion
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Posted - 2009.01.05 18:42:00 -
[117]
Originally by: kor anon
Originally by: Xen Gin
Have you got a giant fricken laser?
No something more powerful, zealotry and a burning desire for total control 
Come back when you got the giant fricken laser then, and only then we might talk. ------
Originally by: Rifter Drifter News just in..
Games are a pastime.. not a way of life.
If your not enjoying, stop playing, and don't post about it.
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kor anon
Amarr The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.01.05 18:43:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Xen Gin
Originally by: Arianhod We could (like East and West Germany) have an open invite for breakaway regions of England to join us, like Cornwall and Merseyside.
Cornwall and Devon would go for it. Maybe Merseyside and Cheshire, Gloucestershire. All very useful people (We'd have to train the Liverpudlians up to a better standard I think, but they'd be OK) Plus we'd have Man United and Liverpool in our brand new football league.
well guise if your all gonna leave me with only a few counties to rule over i might as come with you
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Captain Hudson
Caldari Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2009.01.05 18:44:00 -
[119]
iv nothing to hide, hack away my fuzz friends
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Thorliaron
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2009.01.05 18:47:00 -
[120]
Originally by: mercyonman
Originally by: kor anon The times has an article here
Now this is taking the ****, Big brother indeed. And not only that, but these procedures may be adopted in other EU countries, as our home security office is trying to convince other nations to do the same. Another step on the road to popular revolt I say.
and this is why america is awsome
because you can get arrested without reason or probable cause?
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