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Sniper Wolf18 Gallente A Pretty Pony Princess	Posted - 2009.01.05 02:02:00 - [1] The UK goes on its way to ****sm by now proposing a ban on what they dub as extreme p.ornography Linkage I wonder how long it is before deviant sex crimes rise in the uk due to deviants not getting their fix online anymore? By the way, does it annoy you when you didnt realise that you were reading my sig?
Ish'Tara	Posted - 2009.01.05 02:21:00 - [2] Edited by: Ish''Tara on 05/01/2009 02:23:22 But then they'll have the chance to classify people into more 'social groups' and put them in prison! Win win for all. Quote: Mr Goggins said such images were "extremely offensive to the vast majority" and had no place in society. Oh, the scope of this. When do they start applying it to anti-government protestors? "Our rule is ligitimate to the vast majority and you have no place in society." Leave the country while you still can.
Rondo Gunn Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2009.01.05 02:23:00 - [3] Next up: Caging the degenerates. Might as well toss in the homeless and gypsies too while they're at it....Hmmm may need some way to painlessly euthanize them too.... shin ku myo u
mercyonman Caldari Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.05 02:38:00 - [4] next people in the UK will be complaining that their butts hurt too much from the toilet paper and the gov. will have to protect them. maybe i shouldn't of jumped through that gate
Sniper Wolf18 Gallente A Pretty Pony Princess	Posted - 2009.01.05 02:39:00 - [5] I wonder whats next? sterilising the disabled as they are jeprodising the gene pool Killing off old people who cant work as they are'nt useful to the final solution? By the way, does it annoy you when you didnt realise that you were reading my sig?
Delwoc	Posted - 2009.01.05 03:21:00 - [6] Next people will be reading the date on posts Last Updated: Tuesday, 30 August 2005, 12:46 GMT 13:46 UK
Ivana Drake	Posted - 2009.01.05 03:45:00 - [7] They have similar laws in Germany over violence. I think at one point they tried to bring in a law where committing "acts of virtual violence" (such as shooting someone in a game) could put you in prison. Basically treating them like they were actually murderers. Same thing is in the UK, too, only it regards sexual content rather than violence, although that only really applies to males anyway.
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.01.05 04:17:00 - [8] Originally by: Delwoc Next people will be reading the date on posts Last Updated: Tuesday, 30 August 2005, 12:46 GMT 13:46 UK ______________________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
ouroboros trading Gallente Medics On Fire	Posted - 2009.01.05 04:21:00 - [9] Quote: The Liberal Democrats home affairs spokesman Mark Oaten urged the government to provide a "very clear and succinct definition" of what constitutes violent and abusive ***ography. ~~why the liberals are like a thin smattering of butter between two loafs of bread. they should release a homebrand of KY tbh. don't be fooled and drawn into the arguement that this is about poor jane who was tragically murdered by a broken human being - it isn't - that's the vulgar moral pretense* dredged up by a government that has convinced itself governing is simply the act of telling people what to do, think, and say. A moral panic over a few indiviuals, that which is absent in countless other government prospects, is simply what happens when you give people a bit too much power. or rather, when ya let them take too much :P they keep grabbing for more...a bit more...a bit more now... you see, what they want us to do NOW is to argue about WHAT ELSE needs to be censored, obviously rap music, dodgy humour, games, and in turn words themselves, will all be suggested as people don't tell the government to ** off but, perversely, turn on each other, social group Vs social group, that's what democracy is fast becoming, a way to make people cancel each other out whilst manipulating their behaviour. doooon't fall for it people! :D Quote: I wonder how long it is before deviant sex crimes rise in the uk due to deviants not getting their fix online anymore? this would predicate a fall in perv crime inline with the rise in internet use, indeed one could say that early adopters were mostly pervs looking for tons of ** (this is probably true, see: real player et al). anyone have the figures? me too lazy. 513693? That's Numberwang!
ouroboros trading Gallente Medics On Fire	Posted - 2009.01.05 04:24:00 - [10] Originally by: Delwoc Next people will be reading the date on posts Last Updated: Tuesday, 30 August 2005, 12:46 GMT 13:46 UK yes but you see, just because something wasn't posted 5 minutes ago doesn't make it outdated. it's an integral bit of government<=>internet history, i mean it's not like they've given up on how to control the web is it ! sheesh the internet and blogs have really nuked peoples attention spans O_o it's amazing the light from the screen doesn't just give up half way to the eyes. cos they too far away innit. 274870? That's Numberwang!

Epideme	Posted - 2009.01.05 04:27:00 - [11] Originally by: ouroboros trading Originally by: Delwoc Next people will be reading the date on posts Last Updated: Tuesday, 30 August 2005, 12:46 GMT 13:46 UK yes but you see, just because something wasn't posted 5 minutes ago doesn't make it outdated. it's an integral bit of government<=>internet history, i mean it's not like they've given up on how to control the web is it ! sheesh the internet and blogs have really nuked peoples attention spans O_o it's amazing the light from the screen doesn't just give up half way to the eyes. cos they too far away innit. Lol indeed but I really think over 2 years without any update in content hardly forms the basis for a discussion
ouroboros trading Gallente Medics On Fire	Posted - 2009.01.05 04:32:00 - [12] Originally by: Epideme Originally by: ouroboros trading Originally by: Delwoc Next people will be reading the date on posts Last Updated: Tuesday, 30 August 2005, 12:46 GMT 13:46 UK yes but you see, just because something wasn't posted 5 minutes ago doesn't make it outdated. it's an integral bit of government<=>internet history, i mean it's not like they've given up on how to control the web is it ! sheesh the internet and blogs have really nuked peoples attention spans O_o it's amazing the light from the screen doesn't just give up half way to the eyes. cos they too far away innit. Lol indeed but I really think over 2 years without any update in content hardly forms the basis for a discussion heh well in this case perhaps so, but it's the approach and understanding of the issue, that when a government uses tragic deaths->moralising->contentious issue, in it's arguements the flags of bull**** should be verily raised inside everyone's minds :P 533747? That's Numberwang!
Epideme	Posted - 2009.01.05 04:33:00 - [13] Originally by: ouroboros trading Originally by: Epideme Originally by: ouroboros trading Originally by: Delwoc Next people will be reading the date on posts Last Updated: Tuesday, 30 August 2005, 12:46 GMT 13:46 UK yes but you see, just because something wasn't posted 5 minutes ago doesn't make it outdated. it's an integral bit of government<=>internet history, i mean it's not like they've given up on how to control the web is it ! sheesh the internet and blogs have really nuked peoples attention spans O_o it's amazing the light from the screen doesn't just give up half way to the eyes. cos they too far away innit. Lol indeed but I really think over 2 years without any update in content hardly forms the basis for a discussion heh well in this case perhaps so, but it's the approach and understanding of the issue, that when a government uses tragic deaths->moralising->contentious issue, in it's arguements the flags of bull**** should be verily raised inside everyone's minds :P Your bored aren't you
ouroboros trading Gallente Medics On Fire	Posted - 2009.01.05 04:34:00 - [14] Originally by: Epideme Pyramid quoting (quoting more than 4 people recursively) is not allowed, please remove some of the quotes and try again! CONCORD has been notified yes >_< hangs head in shame and get that funky error message! 757777? That's Numberwang!
Epideme	Posted - 2009.01.05 04:37:00 - [15]
ouroboros trading Gallente Medics On Fire	Posted - 2009.01.05 04:57:00 - [16] :P hmm still bored... in many jurisdictions, there has been a precedent set that even drawn and literary depictions of paedophillia are illegal - wrongly so imho - I wonder (d'oh, of course it will) this will follow though with violence-****. 201379? That's Numberwang!
Epideme	Posted - 2009.01.05 05:03:00 - [17] Originally by: ouroboros trading :P hmm still bored... in many jurisdictions, there has been a precedent set that even drawn and literary depictions of paedophillia are illegal - wrongly so imho - I wonder (d'oh, of course it will) this will follow though with violence-****. Tbh its only a matter of time untill everything judged to be "abnormal" will become illegal and subject to unlimited and unconditional reasearch (far more than in times past). I do, however, find it amusing that a mere few generations ago, the marying of underage females. or even relatives for instance was considered commonplace. The question is where does it all end?
Super Whopper I can Has Cheeseburger	Posted - 2009.01.05 05:16:00 - [18] The age of the article isn't the issue, the problem is the obsession the government has with control. While this is irrelevant there have been many developments in the UK that have made this kind of law irrelevant now and have given the government so much power they can class anyone and anything as criminal.
Dantes Revenge Caldari	Posted - 2009.01.05 05:18:00 - [19] Quote: The new laws would not affect people who came into contact with ****ographic material by accident. Hahahaha! yea right The fact that this would open the door to anyone knowingly downloading it to say it was not intended makes it impossible to allow that. Plus it would no doubt incur a fine which the gov't would definitely not turn down. As for the OP's question about crime increases due to not being able to get an online fix: The same amount of time it took for increased r.apes to happen after the kerbcrawling law was introduced. Almost instantly. I would rather someone use their mind to get off on their deviant perversion rather than a real person. Images hurt nobody, most of these images that are downloaded are play acting. If someone gets thier rocks off that way, I would rather they downloded as much as they can get. Most people know that partners who enjoy BDSM have a 'safe word' if things get too rough for them. I doubt a r.ape victim would be allowed that sort of luxury. -- There's a simple difference between kinky and perverted. Kinky is using a feather to get her in the mood. Perverted is using the whole chicken. All this has happened before and will happen again
Luke S Yanacocha	Posted - 2009.01.05 07:35:00 - [20] This is Just as bad as the Australian "Ho, Ho, Ho" ban that happend 2 years ago. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,311797,00.html

Davina Braben	Posted - 2009.01.05 07:53:00 - [21] Edited by: Davina Braben on 05/01/2009 07:56:16 Quote: I would rather someone use their mind to get off on their deviant perversion rather than a real person. Images hurt nobody, most of these images that are downloaded are play acting. If someone gets thier rocks off that way, I would rather they downloded as much as they can get. Most people know that partners who enjoy BDSM have a 'safe word' if things get too rough for them. I doubt a r.ape victim would be allowed that sort of luxury. A lot of the ** is even shot like that. Kink dot com who have sufficient market share to be buying real estate normally show the model being after the shoot all chummy with their erstwhile abuser. This is from their list of rules Quote:** Scenes involving BDSM: Pre- and Post-scene Interviews Shoots involving BDSM must include both a pre- and post-scene interview. The pre-shoot interview is to establish consent. It shows that the model is taking part in the scene through his/her own free will, that the model is not under the influence of any intoxicating or controlled substance, and that the model fully understands what will take place during the shoot. It is acceptable to have models lightly bound for the pre-shoot interview (handcuffed or secured but not completely bound). The post shoot must be at least 2 + minutes long, and the model(s) must have sufficiently recovered from the shoot to express themselves coherently about the shoot. The model(s) will need to honestly and explicitly say that the shoot was voluntary. The model(s) should do most of the talking, and the questions should be open-ended, not ôYou had a good time, didnÆt you?ö Instead, ask ôHow did you feel about that shoot?ö The responses need to be coherent. Really, you'd have to be missing some wiring to not understand the distinction in that instance. Really I think the gov't need to think harder about what is and is not their business.
Qui Shon	Posted - 2009.01.05 10:46:00 - [22] Originally by: Dantes Revenge As for the OP's question about crime increases due to not being able to get an online fix: The same amount of time it took for increased r.apes to happen after the kerbcrawling law was introduced. Almost instantly. Have any more info on that, sources perhaps? I googled a bit but mostly found news articles of convictions, like one guy who got a 3 year drivers licence suspension for "kerb-crawling". Nutty laws.
Qui Shon	Posted - 2009.01.05 10:54:00 - [23] Originally by: Davina Braben Up to date news link - http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/newsbeat/newsid_7389000/7389331.stm Wow. England really is going down the toilet. I wonder how long 'til the police state sentiments spread throughout the EU? I hope a long time before we get laws like that. From the article: Liz says: “What it’s allowing is for the police to walk in to anybody’s home, pick up anybody’s computer and check out what’s on it. Perhaps a pensioner wouldn't mind terribly having her computer, if she has one, taken away for a week, two weeks or five months maybe? I know I would mind a great deal as I use it(them) both for recreation and work, which adds up to quite a few hours taken together.
kor anon Amarr The Tuskers	Posted - 2009.01.05 10:55:00 - [24] The government is trying to get its fingers in to as many pies as it can. I personally think that they should stop all this crap, and focus on actually governing effectively.
vostok Minmatar Shadow of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2009.01.05 11:29:00 - [25] How long till neo Guy Fawkes blows up parliament? - Adaptation is not* an excuse for lack of ballance!* -
P'uck	Posted - 2009.01.05 11:31:00 - [26] 'Wow, I surely hope you brits are out on the streets and protesting like crazy, mabye setting cop cars on fire and what not... I mean, ffs, governments deciding whats "extreme" and what's not, thats kind of **ed up, isnt it? Sure, there are boundaries to what should be possible, but within those boundaries **ography and sexuality as a whole is surely not the governments business, now is it? Whats next? some bullcrap like making oral sex illegal?
vostok Minmatar Shadow of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2009.01.05 11:34:00 - [27] Originally by: P'uck 'Wow, I surely hope you brits are out on the streets and protesting like crazy, mabye setting cop cars on fire and what not... I mean, ffs, governments deciding whats "extreme" and what's not, thats kind of **ed up, isnt it? Sure, there are boundaries to what should be possible, but within those boundaries *ography and sexuality as a whole is surely not the governments business, now is it? Whats next? some bullcrap like making oral sex illegal? It wasn't so long ago that people were arrested for homosexual group sex as I remember. As if that's really important to the safety of the population. - Adaptation is not an excuse for lack of ballance!* -
Miendo P'hegn	Posted - 2009.01.05 11:41:00 - [28] Quote: I think at one point they tried to bring in a law where committing "acts of virtual violence" (such as shooting someone in a game) could put you in prison. Source, please.
P'uck	Posted - 2009.01.05 11:45:00 - [29] Yeah, stuff like that is **ed up beyond any description.... for instance: Quote: These forms of violent and abusive ography go far beyond what we allow to be shown in films or even sold in licensed sex shops in the UK, so they should not be available online either. Just because those guys have all brooms sticking up their arses, so deep, that their necks get stiff, doesnt mean they have any ing clue. I mean, I pity them for being so narrowminded, and obviously those people never had any proper rough sex which can be very satisfying at times. I for one know I'm a peace loving hippy and ffs, I even try to avoid hurting insects, for what it's worth. (I'm even nice about blowing up pods) But exploring sexuality as a whole involves violence and power, too, I guess every psychologist that is worth their salt should be able to tell you that. It's a sad thing that girl in that article had such a horrible death, but iirc stuff like this happened LONG BEFORE THE FRIGGIN INTARNETS and long before "violent " was available in abundance. You might even go so far to suspect that the availability of such kinds of ography might help to alleviate the problem, but that is completely besides the point - I guess we all can agree on that people that are not able to protect themselves (like children, for instance) need help in being protected by the law, but as long as it's consensual (and just roleplayed non-consensual ) its NOT the friggin governements business to try to get ANY influence over adult's sexuality. Right now I'm so **ing angry, I don't even know how to vent it. Some people are just dumber than bread, it seems.
Stitcher Caldari Duty.	Posted - 2009.01.05 12:17:00 - [30] I'm left to wonder whose version of "extreme" they're going by. Are we talking videos of strangling and uh... "taking by force", or are we talking those sad-act furry vore stories here? what's the spectrum on "extreme"? - Captain Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain.



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