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Sniper Wolf18
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A Pretty Pony Princess
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Posted - 2009.01.05 02:02:00 -
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The UK goes on its way to ****sm by now proposing a ban on what they dub as extreme p.ornography
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I wonder how long it is before deviant sex crimes rise in the uk due to deviants not getting their fix online anymore?
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Ish'Tara
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Posted - 2009.01.05 02:21:00 -
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Edited by: Ish''Tara on 05/01/2009 02:23:22
But then they'll have the chance to classify people into more 'social groups' and put them in prison! Win win for all.
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Mr Goggins said such images were "extremely offensive to the vast majority" and had no place in society.
Oh, the scope of this. When do they start applying it to anti-government protestors? "Our rule is ligitimate to the vast majority and you have no place in society."
Leave the country while you still can.
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Rondo Gunn
Caldari
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.01.05 02:23:00 -
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Next up: Caging the degenerates. Might as well toss in the homeless and gypsies too while they're at it....Hmmm may need some way to painlessly euthanize them too....
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mercyonman
Caldari
Cryogenic Consultancy
Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.05 02:38:00 -
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next people in the UK will be complaining that their butts hurt too much from the toilet paper and the gov. will have to protect them.
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Sniper Wolf18
Gallente
A Pretty Pony Princess
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Posted - 2009.01.05 02:39:00 -
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I wonder whats next? sterilising the disabled as they are jeprodising the gene pool
Killing off old people who cant work as they are'nt useful to the final solution?
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Delwoc
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Posted - 2009.01.05 03:21:00 -
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Next people will be reading the date on posts
Last Updated: Tuesday, 30 August 2005, 12:46 GMT 13:46 UK
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Ivana Drake
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Posted - 2009.01.05 03:45:00 -
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They have similar laws in Germany over violence. I think at one point they tried to bring in a law where committing "acts of virtual violence" (such as shooting someone in a game) could put you in prison. Basically treating them like they were actually murderers.
Same thing is in the UK, too, only it regards sexual content rather than violence, although that only really applies to males anyway.
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Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.01.05 04:17:00 -
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Originally by: Delwoc
Next people will be reading the date on posts
Last Updated: Tuesday, 30 August 2005, 12:46 GMT 13:46 UK
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ouroboros trading
Gallente
Medics On Fire
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Posted - 2009.01.05 04:21:00 -
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The Liberal Democrats home affairs spokesman Mark Oaten urged the government to provide a "very clear and succinct definition" of what constitutes violent and abusive ****ography.
~~why the liberals are like a thin smattering of butter between two loafs of bread. they should release a homebrand of KY tbh.
don't be fooled and drawn into the arguement that this is about poor jane who was tragically murdered by a broken human being - it isn't - that's the vulgar moral pretense dredged up by a government that has convinced itself governing is simply the act of telling people what to do, think, and say. A moral panic over a few indiviuals, that which is absent in countless other government prospects, is simply what happens when you give people a bit too much power. or rather, when ya let them take too much :P they keep grabbing for more...a bit more...a bit more now...
you see, what they want us to do NOW is to argue about WHAT ELSE needs to be censored, obviously rap music, dodgy humour, games, and in turn words themselves, will all be suggested as people don't tell the government to **** off but, perversely, turn on each other, social group Vs social group, that's what democracy is fast becoming, a way to make people cancel each other out whilst manipulating their behaviour.
doooon't fall for it people! :D
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I wonder how long it is before deviant sex crimes rise in the uk due to deviants not getting their fix online anymore?
this would predicate a fall in perv crime inline with the rise in internet use, indeed one could say that early adopters were mostly pervs looking for tons of **** (this is probably true, see: real player et al). anyone have the figures? me too lazy.
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ouroboros trading
Gallente
Medics On Fire
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Posted - 2009.01.05 04:24:00 -
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Originally by: Delwoc
Next people will be reading the date on posts
Last Updated: Tuesday, 30 August 2005, 12:46 GMT 13:46 UK
yes but you see, just because something wasn't posted 5 minutes ago doesn't make it outdated. it's an integral bit of government<=>internet history, i mean it's not like they've given up on how to control the web is it  !
sheesh the internet and blogs have really nuked peoples attention spans O_o it's amazing the light from the screen doesn't just give up half way to the eyes. cos they too far away innit.
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Epideme
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Posted - 2009.01.05 04:27:00 -
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Originally by: ouroboros trading
Originally by: Delwoc
Next people will be reading the date on posts
Last Updated: Tuesday, 30 August 2005, 12:46 GMT 13:46 UK
yes but you see, just because something wasn't posted 5 minutes ago doesn't make it outdated. it's an integral bit of government<=>internet history, i mean it's not like they've given up on how to control the web is it !
sheesh the internet and blogs have really nuked peoples attention spans O_o it's amazing the light from the screen doesn't just give up half way to the eyes. cos they too far away innit.
Lol indeed but I really think over 2 years without any update in content hardly forms the basis for a discussion
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ouroboros trading
Gallente
Medics On Fire
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Posted - 2009.01.05 04:32:00 -
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Originally by: Epideme
Originally by: ouroboros trading
Originally by: Delwoc
Next people will be reading the date on posts
Last Updated: Tuesday, 30 August 2005, 12:46 GMT 13:46 UK
yes but you see, just because something wasn't posted 5 minutes ago doesn't make it outdated. it's an integral bit of government<=>internet history, i mean it's not like they've given up on how to control the web is it !
sheesh the internet and blogs have really nuked peoples attention spans O_o it's amazing the light from the screen doesn't just give up half way to the eyes. cos they too far away innit.
Lol indeed but I really think over 2 years without any update in content hardly forms the basis for a discussion
heh well in this case perhaps so, but it's the approach and understanding of the issue, that when a government uses tragic deaths->moralising->contentious issue, in it's arguements the flags of bull**** should be verily raised inside everyone's minds :P
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Epideme
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Posted - 2009.01.05 04:33:00 -
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Originally by: ouroboros trading
Originally by: Epideme
Originally by: ouroboros trading
Originally by: Delwoc
Next people will be reading the date on posts
Last Updated: Tuesday, 30 August 2005, 12:46 GMT 13:46 UK
yes but you see, just because something wasn't posted 5 minutes ago doesn't make it outdated. it's an integral bit of government<=>internet history, i mean it's not like they've given up on how to control the web is it !
sheesh the internet and blogs have really nuked peoples attention spans O_o it's amazing the light from the screen doesn't just give up half way to the eyes. cos they too far away innit.
Lol indeed but I really think over 2 years without any update in content hardly forms the basis for a discussion
heh well in this case perhaps so, but it's the approach and understanding of the issue, that when a government uses tragic deaths->moralising->contentious issue, in it's arguements the flags of bull**** should be verily raised inside everyone's minds :P
Your bored aren't you
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ouroboros trading
Gallente
Medics On Fire
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Posted - 2009.01.05 04:34:00 -
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Originally by: Epideme
Pyramid quoting (quoting more than 4 people recursively) is not allowed, please remove some of the quotes and try again!
CONCORD has been notified
yes >_< *hangs head in shame*
and get that funky error message!
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Epideme
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Posted - 2009.01.05 04:37:00 -
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ouroboros trading
Gallente
Medics On Fire
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Posted - 2009.01.05 04:57:00 -
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:P
hmm still bored...
in many jurisdictions, there has been a precedent set that even drawn and literary depictions of paedophillia are illegal - wrongly so imho - I wonder (d'oh, of course it will) this will follow though with violence-****.
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Epideme
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Posted - 2009.01.05 05:03:00 -
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Originally by: ouroboros trading
:P
hmm still bored...
in many jurisdictions, there has been a precedent set that even drawn and literary depictions of paedophillia are illegal - wrongly so imho - I wonder (d'oh, of course it will) this will follow though with violence-****.
Tbh its only a matter of time untill everything judged to be "abnormal" will become illegal and subject to unlimited and unconditional reasearch (far more than in times past). I do, however, find it amusing that a mere few generations ago, the marying of underage females. or even relatives for instance was considered commonplace. The question is where does it all end?
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Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
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Posted - 2009.01.05 05:16:00 -
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The age of the article isn't the issue, the problem is the obsession the government has with control.
While this is irrelevant there have been many developments in the UK that have made this kind of law irrelevant now and have given the government so much power they can class anyone and anything as criminal.
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Dantes Revenge
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.01.05 05:18:00 -
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The new laws would not affect people who came into contact with ****ographic material by accident.
Hahahaha! yea right
The fact that this would open the door to anyone knowingly downloading it to say it was not intended makes it impossible to allow that. Plus it would no doubt incur a fine which the gov't would definitely not turn down.
As for the OP's question about crime increases due to not being able to get an online fix: The same amount of time it took for increased r.apes to happen after the kerbcrawling law was introduced. Almost instantly.
I would rather someone use their mind to get off on their deviant perversion rather than a real person. Images hurt nobody, most of these images that are downloaded are play acting. If someone gets thier rocks off that way, I would rather they downloded as much as they can get. Most people know that partners who enjoy BDSM have a 'safe word' if things get too rough for them. I doubt a r.ape victim would be allowed that sort of luxury.
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Luke S
Yanacocha
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Posted - 2009.01.05 07:35:00 -
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This is Just as bad as the Australian "Ho, Ho, Ho" ban that happend 2 years ago.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,311797,00.html
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Davina Braben
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Posted - 2009.01.05 07:53:00 -
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Edited by: Davina Braben on 05/01/2009 07:56:16
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I would rather someone use their mind to get off on their deviant perversion rather than a real person. Images hurt nobody, most of these images that are downloaded are play acting. If someone gets thier rocks off that way, I would rather they downloded as much as they can get. Most people know that partners who enjoy BDSM have a 'safe word' if things get too rough for them. I doubt a r.ape victim would be allowed that sort of luxury.
A lot of the **** is even shot like that.
Kink dot com who have sufficient market share to be buying real estate normally show the model being after the shoot all chummy with their erstwhile abuser.
This is from their list of rules
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Scenes involving BDSM: Pre- and Post-scene Interviews
Shoots involving BDSM must include both a pre- and post-scene interview. The pre-shoot interview is to establish consent. It shows that the model is taking part in the scene through his/her own free will, that the model is not under the influence of any intoxicating or controlled substance, and that the model fully understands what will take place during the shoot. It is acceptable to have models lightly bound for the pre-shoot interview (handcuffed or secured but not completely bound). The post shoot must be at least 2 + minutes long, and the model(s) must have sufficiently recovered from the shoot to express themselves coherently about the shoot. The model(s) will need to honestly and explicitly say that the shoot was voluntary. The model(s) should do most of the talking, and the questions should be open-ended, not ôYou had a good time, didnÆt you?ö Instead, ask ôHow did you feel about that shoot?ö The responses need to be coherent.
Really, you'd have to be missing some wiring to not understand the distinction in that instance.
Really I think the gov't need to think harder about what is and is not their business.
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2009.01.05 10:46:00 -
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Originally by: Dantes Revenge
As for the OP's question about crime increases due to not being able to get an online fix: The same amount of time it took for increased r.apes to happen after the kerbcrawling law was introduced. Almost instantly.
Have any more info on that, sources perhaps?
I googled a bit but mostly found news articles of convictions, like one guy who got a 3 year drivers licence suspension for "kerb-crawling". Nutty laws.
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2009.01.05 10:54:00 -
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Originally by: Davina Braben
Up to date news link -
http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/newsbeat/newsid_7389000/7389331.stm
Wow. England really is going down the toilet. I wonder how long 'til the police state sentiments spread throughout the EU? I hope a long time before we get laws like that.
From the article:
Liz says: “What it’s allowing is for the police to walk in to anybody’s home, pick up anybody’s computer and check out what’s on it.
Perhaps a pensioner wouldn't mind terribly having her computer, if she has one, taken away for a week, two weeks or five months maybe? I know I would mind a great deal as I use it(them) both for recreation and work, which adds up to quite a few hours taken together.
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kor anon
Amarr
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.01.05 10:55:00 -
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The government is trying to get its fingers in to as many pies as it can. I personally think that they should stop all this crap, and focus on actually governing effectively.
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vostok
Minmatar
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2009.01.05 11:29:00 -
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How long till neo Guy Fawkes blows up parliament?
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P'uck
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Posted - 2009.01.05 11:31:00 -
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'Wow, I surely hope you brits are out on the streets and protesting like crazy, mabye setting cop cars on fire and what not...
I mean, ffs, governments deciding whats "extreme" and what's not, thats kind of ****ed up, isnt it? Sure, there are boundaries to what should be possible, but within those boundaries ****ography and sexuality as a whole is surely not the governments business, now is it?
Whats next? some bullcrap like making oral sex illegal?
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vostok
Minmatar
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2009.01.05 11:34:00 -
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Originally by: P'uck
'Wow, I surely hope you brits are out on the streets and protesting like crazy, mabye setting cop cars on fire and what not...
I mean, ffs, governments deciding whats "extreme" and what's not, thats kind of ****ed up, isnt it? Sure, there are boundaries to what should be possible, but within those boundaries ****ography and sexuality as a whole is surely not the governments business, now is it?
Whats next? some bullcrap like making oral sex illegal?
It wasn't so long ago that people were arrested for homosexual group sex as I remember.
As if that's really important to the safety of the population.
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Miendo P'hegn
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Posted - 2009.01.05 11:41:00 -
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I think at one point they tried to bring in a law where committing "acts of virtual violence" (such as shooting someone in a game) could put you in prison.
Source, please.
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P'uck
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Posted - 2009.01.05 11:45:00 -
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Yeah, stuff like that is ****ed up beyond any description....
for instance:
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These forms of violent and abusive ****ography go far beyond what we allow to be shown in films or even sold in licensed sex shops in the UK, so they should not be available online either.
Just because those guys have all brooms sticking up their arses, so deep, that their necks get stiff, doesnt mean they have any ****ing clue. I mean, I pity them for being so narrowminded, and obviously those people never had any proper rough sex which can be very satisfying at times.
I for one know I'm a peace loving hippy and ffs, I even try to avoid hurting insects, for what it's worth. (I'm even nice about blowing up pods) But exploring sexuality as a whole involves violence and power, too, I guess every psychologist that is worth their salt should be able to tell you that.
It's a sad thing that girl in that article had such a horrible death, but iirc stuff like this happened LONG BEFORE THE FRIGGIN INTARNETS and long before "violent ****" was available in abundance. You might even go so far to suspect that the availability of such kinds of ****ography might help to alleviate the problem, but that is completely besides the point -
I guess we all can agree on that people that are not able to protect themselves (like children, for instance) need help in being protected by the law, but as long as it's consensual (and just roleplayed non-consensual  ) its NOT the friggin governements business to try to get ANY influence over adult's sexuality.
Right now I'm so ****ing angry, I don't even know how to vent it. Some people are just dumber than bread, it seems.
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Stitcher
Caldari
Duty.
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Posted - 2009.01.05 12:17:00 -
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I'm left to wonder whose version of "extreme" they're going by. Are we talking videos of strangling and uh... "taking by force", or are we talking those sad-act furry vore stories here?
what's the spectrum on "extreme"?
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kor anon
Amarr
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.01.05 12:31:00 -
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Originally by: Stitcher
I'm left to wonder whose version of "extreme" they're going by. Are we talking videos of strangling and uh... "taking by force", or are we talking those sad-act furry vore stories here?
what's the spectrum on "extreme"?
Thats the problem there is no clear definition of extreme as it depends on perspective. These politicians are smart, they could have given it a clear definition, but they chose not to. This gives the authorities some leeway in which to ****m someone over
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Locus Bey
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.01.05 12:43:00 -
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The increasing level of violence in ****ography I personally think is a worrying trend. I'm not talking BDSM, that is a whole other category. I am talking simulated ****, gagging, degrading ill treatment of women. ****ography has a profound affect on many peoples sexual attitudes and activity, and from what I see and hear, I think there is a lot to be concerned about were we are possibly heading.
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TimMc
Gallente
Brutal Deliverance
OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.05 12:45:00 -
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Originally by: Stitcher
I'm left to wonder whose version of "extreme" they're going by. Are we talking videos of strangling and uh... "taking by force", or are we talking those sad-act furry vore stories here?
what's the spectrum on "extreme"?
If the government finds you protesting outside parliament, then your **** is too extreme.
Originally by: ouroboros trading
you see, what they want us to do NOW is to argue about WHAT ELSE needs to be censored, obviously rap music, dodgy humour, games, and in turn words themselves, will all be suggested as people don't tell the government to **** off but, perversely, turn on each other, social group Vs social group, that's what democracy is fast becoming, a way to make people cancel each other out whilst manipulating their behaviour.
Time to start removing words from the dictionary people! Then thought crime is impossible!
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.01.05 12:46:00 -
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Oh jesus &#*^## christ.
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The idea was welcomed by the family of Jane Longhurst, of Hove, murdered by a man addicted to violent net ****.
I see SO MANY similarities with the recent banning of magic mushrooms (a soft drug) here in the Netherlands. Last year a French girl (who had taken alcohol, weed, and mushrooms, and had been suicidal before) threw herself off a bridge after eating them so they promptly proposed and installed a ban on them - BECAUSE OF ONE ****ING INCIDENT.
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Miendo P'hegn
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Posted - 2009.01.05 13:00:00 -
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Edited by: Miendo P''hegn on 05/01/2009 13:01:11
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vostok
Minmatar
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2009.01.05 13:01:00 -
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Originally by: Stitcher
I'm left to wonder whose version of "extreme" they're going by. Are we talking videos of strangling and uh... "taking by force", or are we talking those sad-act furry vore stories here?
what's the spectrum on "extreme"?
I believe the classification of extreme is anything that depicts acts that may result in permanent damage or a life threatening situation.
Which, as I remember, puts some fine lines on videos of piercings, scarification and stuff like that too.
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Dantes Revenge
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.01.05 13:12:00 -
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Edited by: Dantes Revenge on 05/01/2009 13:15:52
Originally by: Qui Shon
Originally by: Dantes Revenge
As for the OP's question about crime increases due to not being able to get an online fix: The same amount of time it took for increased r.apes to happen after the kerbcrawling law was introduced. Almost instantly.
Have any more info on that, sources perhaps?
I googled a bit but mostly found news articles of convictions, like one guy who got a 3 year drivers licence suspension for "kerb-crawling". Nutty laws.
It was an item on the BBC news that was removed from their site soon after. It appears the gov't slapped a silencing order on them due the 'nature of the crimes currently under investigation'. The official response was that media coverage linking the increase to the kerb crawling laws would bias any trial. Unofficially of course, it simply made the gov't look like idiots who didn't have a clue what the repercussions would be.
Probably the best way would be to search for the figures for r.ape and then cross reference any rise in those figures with the date the kerb crawling law was made effective. As with most crimes of that nature, don't rely on given figures, many cases are never reported even these days.
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There's a simple difference between kinky and perverted. Kinky is using a feather to get her in the mood. Perverted is using the whole chicken.
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Stitcher
Caldari
Duty.
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Posted - 2009.01.05 13:21:00 -
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Originally by: vostok
I believe the classification of extreme is anything that depicts acts that may result in permanent damage or a life threatening situation.
Which, as I remember, puts some fine lines on videos of piercings, scarification and stuff like that too.
where does it end? there are videos of girls swallowing live goldfish out there fore crying out loud, which I'm pretty sure constitutes "life threatening" from the goldfish's perspective.
Even a bit of "tradesman's entrance" fun can cause permanent damage if it goes wrong. Regular sex can lead to pregnancy, which can in some cases cause very serious health problems or death.
I'm not a big fan of laying things down in too much detail, but you do have to have SOME definition of where the minimum extreme is.
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P'uck
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Posted - 2009.01.05 13:39:00 -
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Don't you think it's a problem that ANYBODY thinks it's alright to decide for you what's extreme and what not?
Sure, I'd like my government to protect people from being the main role in a real snuff movie, but as long as stuff is only PLAYED I dont think its anyone's business to decide for me what's (too) extreme and what's not. That just is not friggin right. I mean, I get 18, I get rights AND FRIGGIN RESPONSIBILITIES, too. I dont see why I should be only left with responsibilities over the years. Feck, I cannot even BEGIN to describe how ****ed up this situation is.
What I actually would like are some laws that enforce proper.... "product descriptions". I just want to know what to expect, so i can decide if its "safe" to watch.
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vostok
Minmatar
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2009.01.05 13:42:00 -
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Originally by: Stitcher
where does it end? there are videos of girls swallowing live goldfish out there fore crying out loud, which I'm pretty sure constitutes "life threatening" from the goldfish's perspective.
That would probably come under bestiality which is also illegal...
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kor anon
Amarr
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.01.05 13:44:00 -
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Edited by: kor anon on 05/01/2009 13:43:51
Originally by: vostok
Originally by: Stitcher
where does it end? there are videos of girls swallowing live goldfish out there fore crying out loud, which I'm pretty sure constitutes "life threatening" from the goldfish's perspective.
That would probably come under bestiality which is also illegal...
WHAT? 
Since when does eating a goldfish constitute ****ing a goldfish?
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P'uck
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Posted - 2009.01.05 13:46:00 -
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Edited by: P''uck on 05/01/2009 13:49:18
I really really cannot understand how anything consensual can be illegal, and as it weirds as it sounds:
I'm pretty sure there is consensual bestiality out there 
each to their friggin own, and ffs, mental liberation is important.
edit: and this opens a completely differnent can of worms, like euthanasia for instance. mankind is still lurking around in the friggin dark middle age, and as it seems the brits are doing there best to move backward in time faster than anybody else. I'd like to expel them from europe and sell them to the yanks 
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vostok
Minmatar
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2009.01.05 13:49:00 -
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Originally by: kor anon
Edited by: kor anon on 05/01/2009 13:43:51
Originally by: vostok
Originally by: Stitcher
where does it end? there are videos of girls swallowing live goldfish out there fore crying out loud, which I'm pretty sure constitutes "life threatening" from the goldfish's perspective.
That would probably come under bestiality which is also illegal...
WHAT?
Since when does eating a goldfish constitute ****ing a goldfish?
Wow this is tasteless, but since when does putting a dog in your mouth constitute ****ing a dog...
But it would probably be down to the context. If it was just a girl eating a goldfish it would just be weird, doing it while naked and then spitting it up onto a guy or something...
But then if the fish was dead it would probably just be food so probably ok...
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.01.05 13:51:00 -
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This thread is slowly starting to make me uncomfortable.
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kor anon
Amarr
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.01.05 13:52:00 -
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Well putting your dogs **** in your mouth is pretty sexual, but putting a whole goldfish in your mouth is different. I think they'd eat a live fish for the lols rather than pleasure, but then agin there are some crazy peeps out there
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P'uck
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Posted - 2009.01.05 13:55:00 -
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Edited by: P''uck on 05/01/2009 13:55:34
Anyway, whoever came up with that idea and is supporting it, needs to be e-mailbombed with tubgirl- and goatse-rolls.
<( O )> or something.
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kor anon
Amarr
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.01.05 13:58:00 -
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Originally by: P'uck
Edited by: P''uck on 05/01/2009 13:55:34
Anyway, whoever came up with that idea and is supporting it, needs to be e-mailbombed with tubgirl- and goatse-rolls.
<( O )> or something.
2 girls 1 cup or 1 man 1 jar would be better tbh
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N.
The Firm.
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[48]
Originally by: mercyonman
next people in the UK will be complaining that their butts hurt too much from the toilet paper and the gov. will have to protect them.
You seem to be under the impression that people here actually want more government oversight
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kor anon
Amarr
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.01.05 14:04:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: mercyonman
next people in the UK will be complaining that their butts hurt too much from the toilet paper and the gov. will have to protect them.
You seem to be under the impression that people here actually want more government oversight
No but thats what the goverment thinks unfortunately. The days of common sense are over in the UK, beaurocracy has killed people with initiative
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P'uck
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[50]
Originally by: Delwoc
Next people will be reading the date on posts
Last Updated: Tuesday, 30 August 2005, 12:46 GMT 13:46 UK
gosh I feel stupid now
otoh, OP added a newer link... (which 404's on me, even if i try to manually subsitute the filtered part)
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vostok
Minmatar
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2009.01.05 14:14:00 -
[51]
Originally by: P'uck
Originally by: Delwoc
Next people will be reading the date on posts
Last Updated: Tuesday, 30 August 2005, 12:46 GMT 13:46 UK
gosh I feel stupid now
otoh, OP added a newer link... (which 404's on me, even if i try to manually subsitute the filtered part)
That said there was new legislation last year banning the depiction of children in any sexual act, which includes cartoons and also tighter legislation on violent ****.
Here is a nice up to date link
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ouroboros trading
Gallente
Medics On Fire
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Posted - 2009.01.05 14:18:00 -
[52]
Originally by: kor anon
1 man 1 jar would be better tbh
ugh when it shatters....uuuugh
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Ivana Drake
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Posted - 2009.01.05 14:25:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Miendo P'hegn
Quote:
I think at one point they tried to bring in a law where committing "acts of virtual violence" (such as shooting someone in a game) could put you in prison.
Source, please.
Source
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Sniper Wolf18
Gallente
A Pretty Pony Princess
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Posted - 2009.01.05 14:27:00 -
[54]
Originally by: kor anon
Edited by: kor anon on 05/01/2009 13:43:51
Originally by: vostok
Originally by: Stitcher
where does it end? there are videos of girls swallowing live goldfish out there fore crying out loud, which I'm pretty sure constitutes "life threatening" from the goldfish's perspective.
That would probably come under bestiality which is also illegal...
WHAT?
Since when does eating a goldfish constitute ****ing a goldfish?
Govmnt will say that it was oral seks most likely, which is also illegal.
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kor anon
Amarr
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.01.05 14:28:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Sniper Wolf18
Originally by: kor anon
Edited by: kor anon on 05/01/2009 13:43:51
Originally by: vostok
Originally by: Stitcher
where does it end? there are videos of girls swallowing live goldfish out there fore crying out loud, which I'm pretty sure constitutes "life threatening" from the goldfish's perspective.
That would probably come under bestiality which is also illegal...
WHAT?
Since when does eating a goldfish constitute ****ing a goldfish?
Govmnt will say that it was oral seks most likely, which is also illegal.
I eat beef, is that oral sex?
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ouroboros trading
Gallente
Medics On Fire
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Posted - 2009.01.05 14:33:00 -
[56]
if you eat my beef then yes, it would be.
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vostok
Minmatar
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2009.01.05 14:33:00 -
[57]
Originally by: kor anon
I eat beef, is that oral sex?
Do you eat beef in a sexual context?!
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P'uck
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Posted - 2009.01.05 14:34:00 -
[58]
A wise man once said:
To Sigmund Freud, breathing in was a form of oral sex.
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Sniper Wolf18
Gallente
A Pretty Pony Princess
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Posted - 2009.01.05 14:34:00 -
[59]
Originally by: kor anon
Originally by: Sniper Wolf18
Govmnt will say that it was oral seks most likely, which is also illegal.
I eat beef, is that oral sex?
Depends what pert of the cow and if its still alive at the time of being eaten
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kor anon
Amarr
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.01.05 14:38:00 -
[60]
Originally by: vostok
Originally by: kor anon
I eat beef, is that oral sex?
Do you eat beef in a sexual context?!
depends i tend to get munchies afterwards, is there a grace period?
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vostok
Minmatar
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2009.01.05 14:57:00 -
[61]
Originally by: kor anon
Edited by: kor anon on 05/01/2009 14:52:57
Originally by: vostok
Originally by: kor anon
I eat beef, is that oral sex?
Do you eat beef in a sexual context?!
Well some people use food during sex, but for eating and 'other' activies. Does this mean they will be restricted to fruit and veg.
edited so that i dont look like a complete tard
I did say that it's only not allowed if the animal is still alive... Otherwise it could just be considered food.
Assuming you're only eating it that is lol.
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P'uck
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Posted - 2009.01.05 15:00:00 -
[62]
If screwing a mildly microwaved melon is wrong I dont want to be right!
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kor anon
Amarr
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.01.05 15:00:00 -
[63]
Originally by: vostok
Originally by: kor anon
Edited by: kor anon on 05/01/2009 14:52:57
Originally by: vostok
Originally by: kor anon
I eat beef, is that oral sex?
Do you eat beef in a sexual context?!
Well some people use food during sex, but for eating and 'other' activies. Does this mean they will be restricted to fruit and veg.
edited so that i dont look like a complete tard
I did say that it's only not allowed if the animal is still alive... Otherwise it could just be considered food.
Assuming you're only eating it that is lol.
The quote above says you didn't say that So a piece of steak in the ****er is a no no?
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P'uck
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Posted - 2009.01.05 15:01:00 -
[64]
Since the colon is the part that does a major part of the digesting, that is debatable
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vostok
Minmatar
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2009.01.05 15:12:00 -
[65]
Originally by: kor anon
The quote above says you didn't say that So a piece of steak in the ****er is a no no?
Do you not remember this post then?
Originally by: vostok
Originally by: kor anon
Edited by: kor anon on 05/01/2009 13:43:51
Originally by: vostok
Originally by: Stitcher
where does it end? there are videos of girls swallowing live goldfish out there fore crying out loud, which I'm pretty sure constitutes "life threatening" from the goldfish's perspective.
That would probably come under bestiality which is also illegal...
WHAT?
Since when does eating a goldfish constitute ****ing a goldfish?
Wow this is tasteless, but since when does putting a dog in your mouth constitute ****ing a dog...
But it would probably be down to the context. If it was just a girl eating a goldfish it would just be weird, doing it while naked and then spitting it up onto a guy or something...
But then if the fish was dead it would probably just be food so probably ok...
Or do you just enjoy being awkward.
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kor anon
Amarr
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.01.05 15:15:00 -
[66]
A little of both, dont feel insulted.
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vostok
Minmatar
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2009.01.05 15:19:00 -
[67]
Originally by: kor anon
A little of both, dont feel insulted.
Best write away to find out if its legal to stab you in the ear with a sausage then.
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kor anon
Amarr
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.01.05 15:22:00 -
[68]
Originally by: vostok
Originally by: kor anon
A little of both, dont feel insulted.
Best write away to find out if its legal to stab you in the ear with a sausage then.
You never know i may like it
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Xen Gin
Universal Mining Inc
Forged Dominion
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Posted - 2009.01.05 15:41:00 -
[69]
OK, I can tell you this.
No matter what those idiots in parliament do, it still doesn't mean the police will enforce.
You see, almost every Computer Crimes unit in the UK has a backlog of Six Months plus. This is not going to change since they're only just looking for MAJOR crimes in large cases, and not petty ones. The CPS wont send a system off for analysis just for Copyright violations or MSN lies.
And with HDD getting bigger and bigger, it's starting to take a longer and longer time to get though much more data.
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Originally by: Rifter Drifter
News just in..
Games are a pastime.. not a way of life.
If your not enjoying, stop playing, and don't post about it.
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kor anon
Amarr
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.01.05 15:45:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Xen Gin
OK, I can tell you this.
No matter what those idiots in parliament do, it still doesn't mean the police will enforce.
You see, almost every Computer Crimes unit in the UK has a backlog of Six Months plus. This is not going to change since they're only just looking for MAJOR crimes in large cases, and not petty ones. The CPS wont send a system off for analysis just for Copyright violations or MSN lies.
And with HDD getting bigger and bigger, it's starting to take a longer and longer time to get though much more data.
Very good point, infact its almost lol worthy that they impose new restrictive measures all the time, yet force the police to do ridiculous amounts of paperwork which stop them from enforcing these laws
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Davina Braben
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Posted - 2009.01.05 15:49:00 -
[71]
Consider the people you least want in parliament, whoever that might be.
Imagine how much damage they could do with any given law.
That's the test you should apply.
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Xen Gin
Universal Mining Inc
Forged Dominion
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Posted - 2009.01.05 16:57:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Sniper Wolf18
Edited by: Sniper Wolf18 on 05/01/2009 14:33:14
Edited by: Sniper Wolf18 on 05/01/2009 14:32:55
The UK goes on its way to ****sm by now proposing a ban on what they dub as extreme p.ornography
Linkage
I wonder how long it is before deviant sex crimes rise in the uk due to deviants not getting their fix online anymore?
EDIT: Added newer link
Linkage
Law goes live on 26th of jan 09
EDIT #2: Old link 404ed adding another up-to-date Link
Which is no where near this!
Web P*rn Crackdown In China
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Originally by: Rifter Drifter
News just in..
Games are a pastime.. not a way of life.
If your not enjoying, stop playing, and don't post about it.
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Arianhod
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Posted - 2009.01.05 17:01:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Xen Gin
Originally by: Sniper Wolf18
Edited by: Sniper Wolf18 on 05/01/2009 14:33:14
Edited by: Sniper Wolf18 on 05/01/2009 14:32:55
The UK goes on its way to ****sm by now proposing a ban on what they dub as extreme p.ornography
Linkage
I wonder how long it is before deviant sex crimes rise in the uk due to deviants not getting their fix online anymore?
EDIT: Added newer link
Linkage
Law goes live on 26th of jan 09
EDIT #2: Old link 404ed adding another up-to-date Link
Which is no where near this!
Web P*rn Crackdown In China
So... underground internet CafTs for fapping in China to be expected?
Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007.
Haruhiists - Supporting Linkification since 2008.
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Shanzem
Minmatar
DarkStar 1
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.01.05 17:42:00 -
[74]
Thought control, how provoking!
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Xen Gin
Universal Mining Inc
Forged Dominion
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Posted - 2009.01.05 18:19:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Shanzem
Thought control, how provoking!
There is NO thought control!
*waves hand in a Jedi Mind trick style!*
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Originally by: Rifter Drifter
News just in..
Games are a pastime.. not a way of life.
If your not enjoying, stop playing, and don't post about it.
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Dantes Revenge
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.01.05 23:48:00 -
[76]
Originally by: kor anon
Edited by: kor anon on 05/01/2009 13:43:51
Originally by: vostok
Originally by: Stitcher
where does it end? there are videos of girls swallowing live goldfish out there fore crying out loud, which I'm pretty sure constitutes "life threatening" from the goldfish's perspective.
That would probably come under bestiality which is also illegal...
WHAT?
Since when does eating a goldfish constitute ****ing a goldfish?
I'd say the goldfish is pretty well ****ed the minute it enters her mouth.
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There's a simple difference between kinky and perverted. Kinky is using a feather to get her in the mood. Perverted is using the whole chicken.
All this has happened before and will happen again |
Xen Gin
Universal Mining Inc
Forged Dominion
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Posted - 2009.01.05 23:51:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Dantes Revenge
Originally by: kor anon
Edited by: kor anon on 05/01/2009 13:43:51
Originally by: vostok
Originally by: Stitcher
where does it end? there are videos of girls swallowing live goldfish out there fore crying out loud, which I'm pretty sure constitutes "life threatening" from the goldfish's perspective.
That would probably come under bestiality which is also illegal...
WHAT?
Since when does eating a goldfish constitute ****ing a goldfish?
I'd say the goldfish is pretty well ****ed the minute it enters her mouth.
So what about reality TV where contestants eat kangaroo *********, and other stuff like that?
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Originally by: Rifter Drifter
News just in..
Games are a pastime.. not a way of life.
If your not enjoying, stop playing, and don't post about it.
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vostok
Minmatar
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2009.01.05 23:55:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Xen Gin
So what about reality TV where contestants eat kangaroo *********, and other stuff like that?
If its dead its food (and before anybody says it, if its people its cannibalism which is illegal for a whole other load of reasons).
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Tinky Winkey
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.01.06 01:19:00 -
[79]
Originally by: P'uck
edit: and this opens a completely differnent can of worms, like euthanasia for instance. mankind is still lurking around in the friggin dark middle age, and as it seems the brits are doing their best to move backwards in time faster than anybody else. I'd like to expel them from europe and sell them to the yanks
Please do ! It means that we would no longer have to subsidises the inefficient lump that is the EU and that brussels would no longer be able to interfere in the running of the UK !!
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Xen Gin
Universal Mining Inc
Forged Dominion
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Posted - 2009.01.06 01:42:00 -
[80]
Originally by: vostok
Originally by: Xen Gin
So what about reality TV where contestants eat kangaroo *********, and other stuff like that?
If its dead its food (and before anybody says it, if its people its cannibalism which is illegal for a whole other load of reasons).
I suppose we should ban those African reality TV shows where they eat live grubs and worms.
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Originally by: Rifter Drifter
News just in..
Games are a pastime.. not a way of life.
If your not enjoying, stop playing, and don't post about it.
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vostok
Minmatar
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2009.01.06 02:26:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Xen Gin
Originally by: vostok
Originally by: Xen Gin
So what about reality TV where contestants eat kangaroo *********, and other stuff like that?
If its dead its food (and before anybody says it, if its people its cannibalism which is illegal for a whole other load of reasons).
I suppose we should ban those African reality TV shows where they eat live grubs and worms.
Wow, I'm really bored of this now, if it's not done in a sexual context it obviously wouldn't come under this legislation.
Animal genitals, for obvious reasons could quite easily be considered in a sexual context.
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Marisal
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Posted - 2009.01.06 03:34:00 -
[82]
Edited by: Marisal on 06/01/2009 03:37:54
Originally by: vostok
Wow, I'm really bored of this now, if it's not done in a sexual context it obviously wouldn't come under this legislation.
Animal genitals, for obvious reasons could quite easily be considered in a sexual context.
But thats kinda why most ppl are outraged at this law been snuck under the radar, its so badly worded ppl don't know when they'd be committing an offence, given enough money and a lawyer with balls im fairly sure someone could run with this law and make an utter mockery of it by pointing out instances that would fall under the law now that are quite clearly not its target.
Most of the law needed to be passed because it covers things that should have been illegal but existing laws only covered distribution rather than ownership of such content, but at the same time the law has been written in such broad strokes that there's no clearly defined edge to the law rather than a scalpel to cut away the ill elements of society its more of a mace to bludgeon away. Particular the wording that uses "appears" as part of a law is a potential mind field as this leaves the interpretation of content open to personal opinion.
It was a rush piece of legislation, even that was admited, it was a knee jerk reaction to a campaign by a mother of someone who died at the hands of a nutjob chances are he would have still been a nutjob with this law inplace and without the extreme p.orn. The sad thing is though this is just another piece of law thats eroded civil liberties now and no one will ever likely challenge this law because they don't want the public profile. I have the deepest sympathy for the mother who lost her daughter but Im sorry she is wrong and she has done damage to society and I hope she realises that in time.
Quoting from http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/newsbeat/newsid_7389000/7389331.stm
The mother of the murdered woman, who has been campaigning for this law, "Sometimes the freedoms of like-minded, decent people have to be curtailed because of a few others."
If we follow that logic through to its conclusion then everyone should be locked up because its the only way to stop murders.
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Dirtee Girl
Omega Enterprises
0mega Factor
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Posted - 2009.01.06 07:56:00 -
[83]
nah forget it ill just get banned im not touching this....
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Sedious Bloke
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Posted - 2009.01.06 09:12:00 -
[84]
Edited by: Sedious Bloke on 06/01/2009 09:17:10
I'm sorry the U.S has beat you to all of it. They are just smart enough to make sure no one notices :( gl out there brothers let us all pray to our gods that big brother doesn't start knocking on our doors.
If you fight it they will sneak it in, if you tell the people madness is coming you can live with no fear because they can't black bag you because it will let the masses know. It's coming and there is nothing any of us can do. How many people would you have to stack up in front of a tsunami to stop it from washing over the shore? and in this case would the tsunami not be glad go be rid of those it washed away? I weep for you people in the U.K. because your government is more out with it. but at the same time i am filled with joy for you. At least the wolfs there don't bother wearing the latest fashion of sheeps clothing 
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vostok
Minmatar
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2009.01.06 11:33:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Marisal
But thats kinda why most ppl are outraged at this law been snuck under the radar, its so badly worded ppl don't know when they'd be committing an offence, given enough money and a lawyer with balls im fairly sure someone could run with this law and make an utter mockery of it by pointing out instances that would fall under the law now that are quite clearly not its target.
Most of the law needed to be passed because it covers things that should have been illegal but existing laws only covered distribution rather than ownership of such content, but at the same time the law has been written in such broad strokes that there's no clearly defined edge to the law rather than a scalpel to cut away the ill elements of society its more of a mace to bludgeon away. Particular the wording that uses "appears" as part of a law is a potential mind field as this leaves the interpretation of content open to personal opinion.
It was a rush piece of legislation, even that was admited, it was a knee jerk reaction to a campaign by a mother of someone who died at the hands of a nutjob chances are he would have still been a nutjob with this law inplace and without the extreme p.orn. The sad thing is though this is just another piece of law thats eroded civil liberties now and no one will ever likely challenge this law because they don't want the public profile. I have the deepest sympathy for the mother who lost her daughter but Im sorry she is wrong and she has done damage to society and I hope she realises that in time.
Quoting from http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/newsbeat/newsid_7389000/7389331.stm
The mother of the murdered woman, who has been campaigning for this law, "Sometimes the freedoms of like-minded, decent people have to be curtailed because of a few others."
If we follow that logic through to its conclusion then everyone should be locked up because its the only way to stop murders.
Very true, studies have already shown that murderers who kill for fun tend will just get their inspiration elsewhere.
The idea that obscene images could make somebody insane is ridiculous. Its almost always ideas built up in childhood.
I can't remember who it was exactly, but I remember an American serial killer was caught, and while on death row he came out with a lot of stuff about how **** had driven him to it, which the government took with new enthusiasm to attack ****. Research into this actually turn up evidence that he didn't look at violent ****, just detective crime thriller graphic novels, which often portrayed women in erotic positions and being killed and murdered, since it was all part of the story.
So I guess if you don't want to corrupt the very few people in the world born to be serial killers, we had best ban all media depicting any kind of violence at all...
And that probably still wont make it less likely for you to get stabbed in the streets by a junkie.
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Dantes Revenge
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.01.06 13:17:00 -
[86]
Edited by: Dantes Revenge on 06/01/2009 13:23:50
Originally by: vostok
So I guess if you don't want to corrupt the very few people in the world born to be serial killers, we had best ban all media depicting any kind of violence at all...
Also we need to ban breathing because it may cause someone to think it's fun to stop you doing it.
Edit: If someone is that way inclined and unstable enough to kill, they are going to do it anyway. No amount of banning will prevent it. Therefore a very small minority may act out their fantasy based on what they see. The majority will peacefully look at it in their own homes. Take away that fix and they may be more inclined to seek their fantasy fix for real.
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There's a simple difference between kinky and perverted. Kinky is using a feather to get her in the mood. Perverted is using the whole chicken.
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Gabrialle
Amarr
Sanctuary Logistical Industries Inc
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Posted - 2009.01.06 14:32:00 -
[87]
Edited by: Gabrialle on 06/01/2009 14:38:50
So is 'a clockwork orange' and 'a history of violence' going to be banned from shops? or will we just be arrested for owning a copy?
(both these movies have **** scenes although the latter is semi-consensual)
Edit: just gonna keep adding movies as i think of them:-
Star-trek: Nemesis (telepathic **** scene)
Dune (sexual assault scene)
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Marisal
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Posted - 2009.01.07 13:29:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Gabrialle
Edited by: Gabrialle on 06/01/2009 14:38:50
So is 'a clockwork orange' and 'a history of violence' going to be banned from shops? or will we just be arrested for owning a copy?
(both these movies have **** scenes although the latter is semi-consensual)
Edit: just gonna keep adding movies as i think of them:-
Star-trek: Nemesis (telepathic **** scene)
Dune (sexual assault scene)
From what i've read of the legislation, the movies themselves because they've been certified by british film board they'll be the exception to the law, how ever if you took the scene separated it from the movie so it was no longer part of the movies context, then it would be considered illegal, basically if the video/image or associated information doesn't contain proof that no one is harmed permanently it can easily be interpreted as illegal. With a video easier to do than a photo or two, the issue thats probably cause the most legal issues is the fact most ppl viewing p.orn online will be viewing us based rather than uk based sites who won't think to cater to these new laws by providing the proof. |
Kaijusan
Gallente
gallach minig Corp
New Eve Mining manufacturing Organisation
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Posted - 2009.01.07 18:18:00 -
[89]
What do you expect from a country where their main Archbishop says Shariah Law would be a GOOD THING to implement.
I cant believe this is the same nation that went alone toe to toe with ****** and was willing to fight the Soviets at the same time if need be. WTF is Winston Churchill when you really need him.
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Arianhod
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Posted - 2009.01.07 18:21:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Kaijusan
What do you expect from a country where their main Archbishop says Shariah Law would be a GOOD THING to implement.
He meant that with all parties consenting it should be allowed if no laws of the land are broken by their implementation.
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Tacyon
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Posted - 2009.01.07 18:43:00 -
[91]
Possible 20 years sentence for ordering manga.
How does this make you feel OOPE? The manga in question involved cp scenery. |
Taua Roqa
Minmatar
Silhouette Soliloquy
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Posted - 2009.01.07 18:54:00 -
[92]
what about goru involving cp? thoughtcrime rocks :) |
ceaon
Gallente
Porandor
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Posted - 2009.01.07 19:41:00 -
[93]
loooooooool clowns
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Xen Gin
Universal Mining Inc
Forged Dominion
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Posted - 2009.01.07 22:37:00 -
[94]
Edited by: Xen Gin on 07/01/2009 22:39:00
Originally by: Tacyon
Possible 20 years sentence for ordering manga.
How does this make you feel OOPE? The manga in question involved cp scenery.
He'll be convicted probably, the US is really bad for this. A man in the US was recently convicted for clicking on a link that purported to be CP but wasn't, but was in fact a fake link provided by the FBI.
He was also convicted of possessing CP on his computer, but that was only two tiny thumbnails in the cache of his browser, but nothing else was found. In the UK it wouldn't be sufficient enough to even go to court. (They also based their evidence on that his IP addy is unique and can only belong to him, like his SSN no doubt )
Reference
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TimMc
Gallente
Brutal Deliverance
OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.08 00:11:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Tacyon
Possible 20 years sentence for ordering manga.
How does this make you feel OOPE? The manga in question involved cp scenery.
As sick as CP is... these guys need help and not tricks and long jail sentences. They need long therapy and to be watched. |
Dantes Revenge
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.01.08 05:35:00 -
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Originally by: Xen Gin
Edited by: Xen Gin on 07/01/2009 22:39:00
Originally by: Tacyon
Possible 20 years sentence for ordering manga.
How does this make you feel OOPE? The manga in question involved cp scenery.
He'll be convicted probably, the US is really bad for this. A man in the US was recently convicted for clicking on a link that purported to be CP but wasn't, but was in fact a fake link provided by the FBI.
He was also convicted of possessing CP on his computer, but that was only two tiny thumbnails in the cache of his browser, but nothing else was found. In the UK it wouldn't be sufficient enough to even go to court. (They also based their evidence on that his IP addy is unique and can only belong to him, like his SSN no doubt )
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More reason to disable wireless and use wired connections. I do that all the time shortly after finding software that would enable someone to find and hack so-called secure wireless connections. Even hidden SSID's can be found and identified as well as WEP codes etc hacked.
If someone outside my house can hack into my internet via wireless to dl CP and I get busted for it, I am sure as hell going to try to secure my connection.
On a side note, it also helps to prevent Eve DC's since wireless interference means dropouts.
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Xen Gin
Universal Mining Inc
Forged Dominion
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Posted - 2009.01.08 14:47:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Dantes Revenge
Originally by: Xen Gin
Edited by: Xen Gin on 07/01/2009 22:39:00
Originally by: Tacyon
Possible 20 years sentence for ordering manga.
How does this make you feel OOPE? The manga in question involved cp scenery.
He'll be convicted probably, the US is really bad for this. A man in the US was recently convicted for clicking on a link that purported to be CP but wasn't, but was in fact a fake link provided by the FBI.
He was also convicted of possessing CP on his computer, but that was only two tiny thumbnails in the cache of his browser, but nothing else was found. In the UK it wouldn't be sufficient enough to even go to court. (They also based their evidence on that his IP addy is unique and can only belong to him, like his SSN no doubt )
Reference
More reason to disable wireless and use wired connections. I do that all the time shortly after finding software that would enable someone to find and hack so-called secure wireless connections. Even hidden SSID's can be found and identified as well as WEP codes etc hacked.
If someone outside my house can hack into my internet via wireless to dl CP and I get busted for it, I am sure as hell going to try to secure my connection.
On a side note, it also helps to prevent Eve DC's since wireless interference means dropouts.
I just outright disabled my Wireless AP. Not even WPA/WPA2 is safe any more. |
Biolaja Tista
Gallente
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2009.01.09 01:40:00 -
[98]
Originally by: vostok
Originally by: Xen Gin
So what about reality TV where contestants eat kangaroo *********, and other stuff like that?
If its dead its food (and before anybody says it, if its people its cannibalism which is illegal for a whole other load of reasons).
Technically, cannibalism isn't illegal. The governments of the world didn't see the need for a law against it.
http://whateveryourethinkingyourewrong.blogspot.com/2008/05/wrong-cannibalism-is-illegal.html
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soldieroffortune 258
Gallente
Trinity Council.
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Posted - 2009.01.09 02:27:00 -
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Edited by: soldieroffortune 258 on 09/01/2009 02:30:11
Originally by: P'uck
Edited by: P''uck on 05/01/2009 13:49:42
I really really cannot understand how anything consensual can be illegal, and as it weirds as it sounds:
I'm pretty sure there is consensual bestiality out there
each to their friggin own, and ffs, mental liberation is important.
edit: and this opens a completely differnent can of worms, like euthanasia for instance. mankind is still lurking around in the friggin dark middle age, and as it seems the brits are doing their best to move backwards in time faster than anybody else. I'd like to expel them from europe and sell them to the yanks
good, we need a 51st state
Originally by: soldieroffortune 258
"Eve is about making yourself richer while making the other guy poorer"
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soldieroffortune 258
Gallente
Trinity Council.
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Posted - 2009.01.09 02:35:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Dirtee Girl
nah forget it ill just get banned im not touching this....
your sig contains "overly excessive" sexually provacative material
/ban
Originally by: soldieroffortune 258
"Eve is about making yourself richer while making the other guy poorer"
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Jhagiti Tyran
Mortis Angelus
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Posted - 2009.01.09 02:56:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Xen Gin
He'll be convicted probably, the US is really bad for this. A man in the US was recently convicted for clicking on a link that purported to be CP but wasn't, but was in fact a fake link provided by the FBI.
He was also convicted of possessing CP on his computer, but that was only two tiny thumbnails in the cache of his browser, but nothing else was found. In the UK it wouldn't be sufficient enough to even go to court. (They also based their evidence on that his IP addy is unique and can only belong to him, like his SSN no doubt )
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I really don't see anything wrong with this at all if you read the article the guy was in the process of physically destroying his hard drives as the police raided him, I doubt the first thing anybody without something to hide would do if they got raided by police is to start smashing their hard drives up. Also he did have pictures of naked children albeit cached and he did get caught by the honey trap so the guy was obviously up to something fishy.
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Nva Ris
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Posted - 2009.01.09 09:58:00 -
[102]
so showing people killing each other is ok as long as they aren't simultaneously ****ing each other?
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Xen Gin
Universal Mining Inc
Forged Dominion
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Posted - 2009.01.09 17:30:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Jhagiti Tyran
Originally by: Xen Gin
He'll be convicted probably, the US is really bad for this. A man in the US was recently convicted for clicking on a link that purported to be CP but wasn't, but was in fact a fake link provided by the FBI.
He was also convicted of possessing CP on his computer, but that was only two tiny thumbnails in the cache of his browser, but nothing else was found. In the UK it wouldn't be sufficient enough to even go to court. (They also based their evidence on that his IP addy is unique and can only belong to him, like his SSN no doubt )
Reference
I really don't see anything wrong with this at all if you read the article the guy was in the process of physically destroying his hard drives as the police raided him, I doubt the first thing anybody without something to hide would do if they got raided by police is to start smashing their hard drives up. Also he did have pictures of naked children albeit cached and he did get caught by the honey trap so the guy was obviously up to something fishy.
Actually he was acquitted of destroying Hard Drives, there was inconsistencies with FBI reports on how long they were out side "knocking" on his door, and then raiding without notice. |
Sniper Wolf18
Gallente
A Pretty Pony Princess
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Posted - 2009.01.09 19:14:00 -
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Edited by: Sniper Wolf18 on 09/01/2009 19:17:26
Originally by: Jhagiti Tyran
Originally by: Xen Gin
He'll be convicted probably, the US is really bad for this. A man in the US was recently convicted for clicking on a link that purported to be CP but wasn't, but was in fact a fake link provided by the FBI.
He was also convicted of possessing CP on his computer, but that was only two tiny thumbnails in the cache of his browser, but nothing else was found. In the UK it wouldn't be sufficient enough to even go to court. (They also based their evidence on that his IP addy is unique and can only belong to him, like his SSN no doubt )
Reference
I really don't see anything wrong with this at all if you read the article the guy was in the process of physically destroying his hard drives as the police raided him, I doubt the first thing anybody without something to hide would do if they got raided by police is to start smashing their hard drives up. Also he did have pictures of naked children albeit cached and he did get caught by the honey trap so the guy was obviously up to something fishy.
If the police were at my door whining about computer crimes i would kill my harddrives too, just because i download music + games etc and go on /b/ somtimes
Also, the guy must have been an ameteur, anything REALLY illegal goes onto dvds which get played on a dvd player (no cache + hdd) and the dvds reside beside the microwave, then if u get raided all u have to do is throw them in for 10 seconds
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Jhagiti Tyran
Mortis Angelus
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Posted - 2009.01.09 21:38:00 -
[105]
Edited by: Jhagiti Tyran on 09/01/2009 21:45:29
Originally by: Xen Gin
Originally by: Jhagiti Tyran
Originally by: Xen Gin
He'll be convicted probably, the US is really bad for this. A man in the US was recently convicted for clicking on a link that purported to be CP but wasn't, but was in fact a fake link provided by the FBI.
He was also convicted of possessing CP on his computer, but that was only two tiny thumbnails in the cache of his browser, but nothing else was found. In the UK it wouldn't be sufficient enough to even go to court. (They also based their evidence on that his IP addy is unique and can only belong to him, like his SSN no doubt )
Reference
I really don't see anything wrong with this at all if you read the article the guy was in the process of physically destroying his hard drives as the police raided him, I doubt the first thing anybody without something to hide would do if they got raided by police is to start smashing their hard drives up. Also he did have pictures of naked children albeit cached and he did get caught by the honey trap so the guy was obviously up to something fishy.
Actually he was acquitted of destroying Hard Drives, there was inconsistencies with FBI reports on how long they were out side "knocking" on his door, and then raiding without notice.
Acquitted doesn't nessercerily mean innocent and the suggestion that he was trying to destroy the hard drives must have had some basis in fact, that coupled with the other evidence is a pretty good indicator the guy was guilty but he managed to wriggle out of it with a bunch of technicalities.
He just happened to have cached pictures of naked children on his computer, he just happened to have been caught trying to view videos of child ****ography and he just happened to have given the police the impression that he was attempting to destroy potential evidence when they confronted him about his activities, that's a fairly unusual set of circumstances.
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Bish Ounen
Gallente
Best Path Inc.
Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.01.09 22:21:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Dantes Revenge
More reason to disable wireless and use wired connections. I do that all the time shortly after finding software that would enable someone to find and hack so-called secure wireless connections. Even hidden SSID's can be found and identified as well as WEP codes etc hacked.
If someone outside my house can hack into my internet via wireless to dl CP and I get busted for it, I am sure as hell going to try to secure my connection.
On a side note, it also helps to prevent Eve DC's since wireless interference means dropouts.
You mean, THIS?
Muwaaahaa haa haa haaa!
/evil
Actually, This is an excellent Penetration testing suite of tools. But a tool can be misused. WEP, WPA, and WPA-PSK are NOT totally secure. Merely more secure than no encryption at all. |
Xen Gin
Universal Mining Inc
Forged Dominion
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Posted - 2009.01.09 22:53:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Jhagiti Tyran
Acquitted doesn't nessercerily mean innocent and the suggestion that he was trying to destroy the hard drives must have had some basis in fact, that coupled with the other evidence is a pretty good indicator the guy was guilty but he managed to wriggle out of it with a bunch of technicalities.
He just happened to have cached pictures of naked children on his computer, he just happened to have been caught trying to view videos of child ****ography and he just happened to have given the police the impression that he was attempting to destroy potential evidence when they confronted him about his activities, that's a fairly unusual set of circumstances.
I believe the article says found not guilty.
He wasn't caught trying to view videos of CP, he was found guilty of clicking a link. Read the article. They then used that and his IP address to to get a warrant to raid his house. He could have destroyed his hard drive any time before the raid happened.
Read it.
"Vosburgh faced four charges: clicking on an illegal hyperlink; knowingly destroying a hard drive and a thumb drive by physically damaging them when the FBI agents were outside his home; obstructing an FBI investigation by destroying the devices; and possessing a hard drive with two grainy thumbnail images of naked female minors (the youths weren't having sex, but their genitalia were visible).
The judge threw out the third count and the jury found him not guilty of the second. But Vosburgh was convicted of the first and last counts, which included clicking on the FBI's illicit hyperlink. "
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Originally by: Rifter Drifter
News just in..
Games are a pastime.. not a way of life.
If your not enjoying, stop playing, and don't post about it.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
MasterBlasters Inc.
CORPVS DELICTI
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Posted - 2009.01.09 23:02:00 -
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Did t hey post the obscene pics anywhere?
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Putting the sensual in nonconsensual
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WhiteSavage
Gallente
Noir.
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Posted - 2009.01.10 08:51:00 -
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lmao good.
If people cant decide whats right or wrong for themselves then the government by all means should slap them upside the head chop there balls off and heaven forbid force them to pay a fine. I'm sure all the famous historical supporters of a free democracy would cringe at the thought of not being able to watch extreme **** legally on their laptop.
There have been more wars in the last century then all other wars in all centurys combined. People are starving, true human rights are being violated all over the world, freedom of press and freedom of speech is being squashed...
...but hey cry about extreme ****...
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2009.01.10 11:19:00 -
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Originally by: WhiteSavage
freedom of press and freedom of speech is being squashed...
...but hey cry about extreme ****...
You don't see the connection? You don't see this is how the freedoms you seem to value are being, not squashed, but nibbled on, consumed piece by piece.
Say you have a park, but developers would like to build strip malls or something. They cannot get permission for that, so it's a kindergarten instead. Oh well, nobody can say no to that, it's for the children after all. Then it's a home for the elderly, who could deny them the home and care they need? In ten or twenty years, your park is gone and there is a stripmall right at the center of where it used to be. Piece by piece, they took it all, starting with something you cannot be against, unless you want your fellow man to look at you with contempt.
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