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Arianhod
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Posted - 2009.01.07 15:12:00 -
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Edited by: Arianhod on 07/01/2009 15:15:32
"Now Stop Worrying and Enjoy Your Life"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/06/religion-atheist-bus-campaign-national
Raised ú140k and spend it on an ad campaign across Britain promoting the high probability of the non existence of a supernatural creator. Also it got Richard Dawkins seal of approval, and to be honest I am surprised that a topic hasn't popped up yet.
Very much in favour of this myself, prooves that Political Correctness still has a way to go before it kills freedom of speach and I just love the sound of people calling this project insulting to religious factions.
Just prooves the point I suppose 
Also hit enter by accident - thread now with added content! 
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Slade Trillgon
Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.01.07 15:16:00 -
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This is a trap.
Slade
 Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
Please go sit in the corner, and dont forget to don the shame-on-you-hat!
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Slade Trillgon
Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.01.07 15:18:00 -
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Originally by: Arianhod
Edited by: Arianhod on 07/01/2009 15:15:32
"Now Stop Worrying and Enjoy Your Life"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/06/religion-atheist-bus-campaign-national
Raised ú140k and spend it on an ad campaign across Britain promoting the high probability of the non existence of a supernatural creator. Also it got Richard Dawkins seal of approval, and to be honest I am surprised that a topic hasn't popped up yet.
Very much in favour of this myself, prooves that Political Correctness still has a way to go before it kills freedom of speach and I just love the sound of people calling this project insulting to religious factions.
Just prooves the point I suppose
Also hit enter by accident - thread now with added content!
My fists tire 
Slade
Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
Please go sit in the corner, and dont forget to don the shame-on-you-hat!
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Arianhod
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Posted - 2009.01.07 15:19:00 -
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Originally by: Slade Trillgon
This is a trap.
Slade
404 ù File not found.
You can create your own free blog on WordPress.com.
Can't argue with that, it's a 404 trap HIT THE DECK!!
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Great Artista
Caldari
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2009.01.07 15:28:00 -
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I consider it equally disgusting as any religious ad I see.
Didn't we have this thread months ago? 
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Shirley Serious
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2009.01.07 15:29:00 -
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Old news, and a bit meh anyways.
All things like this do is waste money.
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Arianhod
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Posted - 2009.01.07 15:33:00 -
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Originally by: Great Artista
I consider it equally disgusting as any religious ad I see.
Didn't we have this thread months ago?
I think the main idea behind it is to illustrate how disgusting pro Religious ones are by taking the Atheist point and doing something tame by comparison.
ie the named Christian one delightfully informing people on their website that "non christians will burn in hell".
Why do Atheists get the bad reputation anyway....
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Rob Z0mbie
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Posted - 2009.01.07 15:36:00 -
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Originally by: Arianhod
Why do Atheists get the bad reputation anyway....
Those who don't conform are often hated.
still though, ;hi5;
i like.
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Great Artista
Caldari
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2009.01.07 15:44:00 -
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Edited by: Great Artista on 07/01/2009 15:47:12
Why would an atheist care what someone else believes in? I can understand religion's view on this; you care about someone else, so you must save them from hell or oblivion or from being reborn as a frog.
There propably aint no God, why don't you join our little club of atheism, if you feel the same. Since when was it a cult, recruiting people from the streets? This is beyond me to be honest.
Edit: No offence, but this thread requires lock before it gets any worse.  |
Micheal Dietrich
Caldari
Terradyne Networks
Terradyne Networks Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.07 15:49:00 -
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I remember was one of the websites linked the preacher was actually promoting vandalism on any bus that had this sign. I wonder if they'll go through with it.
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Arianhod
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Posted - 2009.01.07 15:49:00 -
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Originally by: Great Artista
Why would an atheist care what someone else believes in? I can understand religion's view on this; you care about someone else, so you must save them from hell or oblivion or from being reborn as a frog.
There propably aint no God, why don't you join our little club of atheism, if you feel the same. Since when was it a cult, recruiting people from the streets? This is beyond me to be honest.
The general idea is that when you start seeing the non existence of a God as fact, you then see Religion as a con. For me personaly, and probably for quite a few others it is really disturbing seeing people taking something as fact with the proof being the little book in their hands that cannot be demonstrated or is not subject to science.
If you see someone worshipping Santa do you simply let them go or would you point out he doesn't exist? Same thing.
Originally by: Robert M.Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance.
ôWhen one person suffers from delusion, it is called insanity. When many people suffer from delusion it is called religion.ö
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goodby4u
Valor Inc.
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Posted - 2009.01.07 15:58:00 -
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Originally by: Arianhod
Originally by: Great Artista
I consider it equally disgusting as any religious ad I see.
Didn't we have this thread months ago?
I think the main idea behind it is to illustrate how disgusting pro Religious ones are by taking the Atheist point and doing something tame by comparison.
ie the named Christian one delightfully informing people on their website that "non christians will burn in hell".
Why do Atheists get the bad reputation anyway....
Actually in this day and age atheists are losing that bad rep and christians tend to be gaining it.
But I agree with great, buses shouldnt be riding around sporting beliefs, whether it be christianity, budhism, or atheism.
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armas
Gallente
Minbari Research Institute
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Posted - 2009.01.07 16:04:00 -
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Originally by: Great Artista
I consider it equally disgusting as any religious ad I see.
Didn't we have this thread months ago?
Yes we did and you ridiculed my view that its intention was to make people think. It's nice to see that Professor Dawkins shares my view though:
"I wanted something stronger but with hindsight I think it's probably a good thing because it makes people think. It's just food for thought û people will have conversations in pubs when they see these buses."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/4141765/Atheist-buses-denying-Gods-existence-take-to-streets.html
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Shirley Serious
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2009.01.07 16:06:00 -
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Originally by: Arianhod
The general idea is that when you start seeing the non existence of a God as fact, you then see Religion as a con.
For me personaly, and probably for quite a few others it is really disturbing seeing people taking something as fact with the proof being the little book in their hands that cannot be demonstrated or is not subject to science.
If you see someone worshipping Santa do you simply let them go or would you point out he doesn't exist? Same thing.
1. What kind of person is going to be convinced by a bus advert. Who even looks at those?
2. What? Who's taking what as fact? Almost everything Jesus said was metaphor, not fact. How do you subject metaphors to science?
3. Kirjava/Arianhod. Ruining Santa's Grotto for children since 1989.  |
Davina Braben
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Posted - 2009.01.07 16:06:00 -
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Quote:
Why would an atheist care what someone else believes in?
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"?
Everywhere you look you can see people doing stupid things in the name of this or that deity and most of them aren't even Khorne worshipers :/
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Rob Z0mbie
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Posted - 2009.01.07 16:08:00 -
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Originally by: Great Artista
Edited by: Great Artista on 07/01/2009 15:47:12
Why would an atheist care what someone else believes in? I can understand religion's view on this; you care about someone else, so you must save them from hell or oblivion or from being reborn as a frog.
There propably aint no God, why don't you join our little club of atheism, if you feel the same. Since when was it a cult, recruiting people from the streets? This is beyond me to be honest.
Edit: No offence, but this thread requires lock before it gets any worse.
problem was when nonbelievers and members of other religions were hung\decapitated\burned back in the day.
there's a lot of evidence for laws that specifically ordered that. that's why some atheists turn into anti-theists at some point in their non-belief cycle but most get out of it, except a few that still live in societies that still condone such punishments or ill-treatment. Atheists are for the most part reactionary.
i know i don't turn into an atheist or anti-theist in some cases unless im confronted with believers who want to convert me and tell me the same stories again and again oh how i need to saved etc despite me telling them to kindly stop. |
Arianhod
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Posted - 2009.01.07 16:14:00 -
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Edited by: Arianhod on 07/01/2009 16:15:04
Originally by: Shirley Serious
Originally by: Arianhod
The general idea is that when you start seeing the non existence of a God as fact, you then see Religion as a con.
For me personaly, and probably for quite a few others it is really disturbing seeing people taking something as fact with the proof being the little book in their hands that cannot be demonstrated or is not subject to science.
If you see someone worshipping Santa do you simply let them go or would you point out he doesn't exist? Same thing.
1. What kind of person is going to be convinced by a bus advert. Who even looks at those?
2. What? Who's taking what as fact? Almost everything Jesus said was metaphor, not fact. How do you subject metaphors to science?
3. Kirjava/Arianhod. Ruining Santa's Grotto for children since 1989.
Counter Response!
1. Well some people do, or at least enough to warrent paying for the ads in the first place. However given the subject it is the media highlighting it that is getting the debate going - which is the aim.
2. Jesus wasn't the only main character in the Bible, let us not forget the supporting cast and his resurrection from being clinically dead and then ascending into heaven.
I assume that "Heaven" wasn't a pub he want to after faking his death to escape the pesky Romans ofc
3. I was born in November of 1990 (my followers please note this for later sending of Pressies). Also I went to this School, guess who my teacher was 
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Xen Gin
Universal Mining Inc
Forged Dominion
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Posted - 2009.01.07 16:27:00 -
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Nice to see my donation went on more bus adverts!
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News just in..
Games are a pastime.. not a way of life.
If your not enjoying, stop playing, and don't post about it.
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Shirley Serious
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2009.01.07 16:58:00 -
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Originally by: Arianhod
1. However given the subject it is the media highlighting it that is getting the debate going - which is the aim.
2. Jesus wasn't the only main character in the Bible, let us not forget the supporting cast and his resurrection from being clinically dead and then ascending into heaven.
3. I was born in November of 1990
1. Looks to me like sufficient media circus could be made by simply saying you're going to do such things, but actually spending the money on sth else, e.g. some kind of charity or social investment thing.
2. Most of the other people were ****s tbh. The ones that set themselves up as priests afterward, for example. Jesus said you didn't need priests or temples or shenanigans, especially when they were so wrapped up in debates and protocol that they neglect the basic duty of helping people. Also regardless of what actually happened with the Resurrection, it can also be seen as a metaphor. By dying for his message, it gives it a lot more power.
3. 1989 sounds better...
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Jacob Mei
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Posted - 2009.01.07 17:48:00 -
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We had one of these threads months ago.
My personal opinion is if your the type who has to publicly announce to the world your opinions on spiritual life, be you religous or athiest then your pretty much asking for an ass kicking at some point and political correctness has nothing to do with it. |
Hairy Manballs
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Posted - 2009.01.07 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: Jacob Mei
We had one of these threads months ago.
My personal opinion is if your the type who has to publicly announce to the world your opinions on spiritual life, be you religous or athiest then your pretty much asking for an ass kicking at some point and political correctness has nothing to do with it.
That include churches? |
Jacob Mei
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Posted - 2009.01.07 18:15:00 -
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Originally by: Hairy Manballs
Originally by: Jacob Mei
We had one of these threads months ago.
My personal opinion is if your the type who has to publicly announce to the world your opinions on spiritual life, be you religous or athiest then your pretty much asking for an ass kicking at some point and political correctness has nothing to do with it.
That include churches?
If youÆre referring to the architecture itself then honestly I would have to say you have something up your butt. ItÆs just a building and if you find offence with a buildings that have a pair of 2x4Æs in a cross like design then I would recommend you go see a shrink to find out why an inanimate object brings up negative feelings in you.
If you are referring to the signs that say things like ôJohn 3:16ö and so forth than yeah, I think its tacky and likely to fray nerves then to get someone to walk in.
Churches (all religions) are really nothing more than clubs in my eyes. From personal experience I can rattle off a ton of problems I personally have with the church as an organization but thatÆs for another argument.
Ultimately though if you are a true atheist why would you care if someone says ôgod bless youö or ômarry Christmasö or ôso help me godö or ôyour going to hell for not believingö? If you donÆt believe in god, the devil, heaven or hell why do you let such phrases have power over you.
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Taua Roqa
Minmatar
Silhouette Soliloquy
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Posted - 2009.01.07 18:25:00 -
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old news.
also atheism is about individuality and infinate possibility, dawkins does not represent me so he can **** off, and the insulted religious types can **** of oh so much more. I don't not believe in gods only to eat up the words of... whoever. |
Arianhod
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Posted - 2009.01.07 18:29:00 -
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Originally by: Taua Roqa
old news.
also atheism is about individuality and infinate possibility, dawkins does not represent me so he can **** off, and the insulted religious types can **** of oh so much more. I don't not believe in gods only to eat up the words of... whoever.
Old news yet implemented today - hence newsworthy.
Also I kinda like Dawkins myself, but each to their own and in itself that is the beauty of it  |
Spaztick
Canadian Imperial Armaments
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2009.01.07 18:31:00 -
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Old news.
Does anyone else see the irony in Dawkins approving theism bashing against people that bash atheism? I swear he'd be elected Pope if atheism was ever declared a religion. |
EnslaverOfMinmatar
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Posted - 2009.01.07 18:36:00 -
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That's a one expensive troll. |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.01.07 18:45:00 -
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Originally by: Great Artista
Why would an atheist care what someone else believes in?
Why do psychiatrists care what crazy people think ?
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Taua Roqa
Minmatar
Silhouette Soliloquy
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Posted - 2009.01.07 18:51:00 -
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Originally by: Arianhod
Old news yet implemented today - hence newsworthy.
aye fair point :)
oh, I don't at all dislike richard, he's an intelligent man and we have a lot in common, but religious types, being what they are, will try and group atheists all together in one lump, which of course is totally missing the point - we are the ever evolving, open to possibility future of human thought! of course the irony of a bunch of people following richard about is not lost on him :P a tip i would give to people who consider themselves atheists is to disagree with each other for the sake of it :D |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.01.07 18:53:00 -
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Religious belief needs to be treated like any other delusion or psychological problem : first awareness campaigns, then medication, and if that doesn't work, stick'em in a padded cell |
Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.01.07 18:54:00 -
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I'm lovin it, parapapapa.
Great ad :) |
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