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Captain Hudson
Caldari Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2009.01.07 19:10:00 -
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saw that today funnily enough, didnt think twice about it
Iv found him |

Shanzem
Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.01.07 19:27:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T Religious belief needs to be treated like any other delusion or psychological problem : first awareness campaigns, then medication, and if that doesn't work, stick'em in a padded cell 
Agreeing 
You would do the same to a conspiracy theorist -------------------------------------------
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Sharra Savente
Brotherhood of the Phoenix
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Posted - 2009.01.07 19:33:00 -
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Originally by: EnslaverOfMinmatar That's a one expensive troll.
HAHA, yes, I actually laughed out loud reading that:)
/thread. ____ English doesn't borrow from other languages; it follows other languages down dark alleys, coshes 'em, then rummages in their pockets for loose bits of grammar. |

Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.01.07 19:59:00 -
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Originally by: Sharra Savente
Originally by: EnslaverOfMinmatar That's a one expensive troll.
HAHA, yes, I actually laughed out loud reading that:)
/thread.
but religion is so easy to troll 
Wyvern & Chimera fitting flowchart
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Arianhod
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Posted - 2009.01.07 20:02:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz
Originally by: Sharra Savente
Originally by: EnslaverOfMinmatar That's a one expensive troll.
HAHA, yes, I actually laughed out loud reading that:)
/thread.
but religion is so easy to troll 
Indeed 
Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007. Haruhiists - Supporting Linkification since 2008.
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2009.01.07 22:04:00 -
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I expect religious people to waste money but atheists, damn you all to he...he... |

DubanFP
Caldari R.U.S.T.
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Posted - 2009.01.07 22:25:00 -
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Edited by: DubanFP on 07/01/2009 22:28:18
Originally by: Spaztick Old news.
Does anyone else see the irony in Dawkins approving theism bashing against people that bash atheism?
That was the entire point! To put atheism in the same light and you fell for the trap. You looked down on atheism without even thinking how the religious messages are equally offensive. I do think the posters are a bit too much but this is why they were posted in the first place. _______________
"It's not about the look of your ship or the size of your guns. It's about how much **** you can @#$# up with it" |

Xen Gin
Universal Mining Inc Forged Dominion
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Posted - 2009.01.07 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: DubanFP
Originally by: Spaztick Old news.
Does anyone else see the irony in Dawkins approving theism bashing against people that bash atheism?
That was the entire point!
Its not old news. What was old news was that a few months ago, had only a few adverts on some London buses. It kicked up a stink with a few Churchies saying their followers should commit crimes, off the back of that they raised ú140k.
Now the new news is that it's rolled out nationwide. Also, I don't see where the campaign tells theists that they are wrong and will suffer in "eternal damnation" for believing so. ------
Originally by: Rifter Drifter News just in..
Games are a pastime.. not a way of life.
If your not enjoying, stop playing, and don't post about it.
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Nubswarm001
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Posted - 2009.01.08 00:19:00 -
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Originally by: Great Artista Edited by: Great Artista on 07/01/2009 15:47:12 Why would an atheist care what someone else believes in?
Well tbh i do when its constantly thrusted in my face all the time.
The adverts to me show a further step in free speach. If religious cults can do it, come by your house trying to spread the word, listen to it by random nut jobs on the high street and being almost forced to take pamphlets...
Then yeah, money well spent. Atheism isnt about a cult, its about trying to show people that what matters in life is life, not some crazy crap about when you die.
Life didnt come with a rule book, is what it is.
Do not think it needs a lock tbh. Perfectly valid post imho. |

TimMc
Gallente Brutal Deliverance OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.08 00:24:00 -
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Originally by: Jacob Mei Edited by: Jacob Mei on 07/01/2009 18:16:49
Originally by: Hairy Manballs
Originally by: Jacob Mei We had one of these threads months ago.
My personal opinion is if your the type who has to publicly announce to the world your opinions on spiritual life, be you religous or athiest then your pretty much asking for an ass kicking at some point and political correctness has nothing to do with it.
That include churches?
If youÆre referring to the architecture itself then honestly I would have to say you have something up your butt. ItÆs just a building and if you find offence with a buildings that have a pair of 2x4Æs in a cross like design then I would recommend you go see a Psychologist to find out why an inanimate object brings up negative feelings in you.
If you are referring to the signs that say things like ôJohn 3:16ö and so forth than yeah, I think its tacky and likely to fray nerves then to get someone to walk in.
Churches (all religions) are really nothing more than clubs in my eyes. From personal experience I can rattle off a ton of problems I personally have with the church as an organization but thatÆs for another argument.
Ultimately though if you are a true atheist why would you care if someone says ôgod bless youö or ômarry Christmasö or ôso help me godö or ôyour going to hell for not believingö? If you donÆt believe in god, the devil, heaven or hell why do you let such phrases have power over you.
Because they cannot prove religion isn't true anymore than religious people can prove it is true. Plus ego waving is really irritating, which seems to be the use of religious standing by many people.
To OP, its old news but a funny troll anyway. The shouty religious and atheists both annoy me. |

mercyonman
Caldari Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.08 01:31:00 -
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ok first. A: darwin or W/e his name is wrong because there is no proof on evolution B: im sorry but you cant just keep telling yourself to blend in and eventually you will blend in. no thats not how it works its called intelligent design an don't be a ***** and think people worry about going to hell good christians know they are going some where BETTER than this hell. plus GOOD christians who devote there time to the bible usually have a very good moral apperence so why all the anti-religious bull****
maybe i shouldn't of jumped through that gate |

Xen Gin
Universal Mining Inc Forged Dominion
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Posted - 2009.01.08 01:47:00 -
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Originally by: mercyonman ok first. A: darwin or W/e his name is wrong because there is no proof on evolution B: im sorry but you cant just keep telling yourself to blend in and eventually you will blend in. no thats not how it works its called intelligent design an don't be a ***** and think people worry about going to hell good christians know they are going some where BETTER than this hell. plus GOOD christians who devote there time to the bible usually have a very good moral apperence so why all the anti-religious bull****
Incoming troll alert! ------
Originally by: Rifter Drifter News just in..
Games are a pastime.. not a way of life.
If your not enjoying, stop playing, and don't post about it.
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Arvald
Caldari MasterBlasters Inc. CORPVS DELICTI
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Posted - 2009.01.08 01:49:00 -
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HAIL SATAN....errr.......heh... wow... that almsot NEVER happens in public
i edit spelling for no one |

DubanFP
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.01.08 01:50:00 -
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Edited by: DubanFP on 08/01/2009 01:55:07
Originally by: mercyonman ok first. A: darwin or W/e his name is wrong because there is no proof on evolution B: im sorry but you cant just keep telling yourself to blend in and eventually you will blend in. no thats not how it works its called intelligent design an don't be a ***** and think people worry about going to hell good christians know they are going some where BETTER than this hell. plus GOOD christians who devote there time to the bible usually have a very good moral apperence so why all the anti-religious bull****
Most Atheists/Agnostic-Atheists don't have anything against people simply for being theists. The problem is the rather large chunk of theists, such as yourself, that use it as an excuse to look down on others.
Your post implies that atheists will go to hell, thus serving yourself as somehow better, while acting like you're morally superior for passing that judgement. It's that extremely hypocritical attitude that makes it difficult not to be somewhat bitter. Still I would rather be a bitter atheist then a Hypocritical christian anyday. _______________
"It's not about the look of your ship or the size of your guns. It's about how much **** you can @#$# up with it" |

Sera Ryskin
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Posted - 2009.01.08 02:32:00 -
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Edited by: Sera Ryskin on 08/01/2009 02:33:58
Originally by: mercyonman ok first.A: darwin or W/e his name is wrong because there is no proof on evolution
100% wrong. There is overwhelming evidence for evolution, to the point which virtually every biologist (there are always a couple of nutcases and frauds) accepts it as the correct theory. A few seconds of searching with google, something you clearly haven't done, would find all the evidence you could ask for.
Quote: B: im sorry but you cant just keep telling yourself to blend in and eventually you will blend in. no thats not how it works its called intelligent design
Please, before posting about the subject, take the time to understand what the theory of evolution does and does not claim. Nowhere in the theory does it claim that an individual organism will evolve, evolution refers to genetic changes over many generations.
Quote: an don't be a ***** and think people worry about going to hell good christians know they are going some where BETTER than this hell. plus GOOD christians who devote there time to the bible usually have a very good moral apperence
And just how many of these "good Christians" do you know? The ones I've known have worried a lot about going to hell. Or maybe you're referring to the type who claim to be perfect while lecturing everyone else on their sins?
Quote: so why all the anti-religious bull****
Because religion is factually wrong. If 90% of my country believed that the earth was flat, there would be the same kind of outrage. The fact that religion does considerable harm to both society and individuals just adds to my motivation to end it. |

mercyonman
Caldari Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.08 05:22:00 -
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Originally by: DubanFP Edited by: DubanFP on 08/01/2009 02:00:27
Originally by: mercyonman ok first. A: darwin or W/e his name is wrong because there is no proof on evolution B: im sorry but you cant just keep telling yourself to blend in and eventually you will blend in. no thats not how it works its called intelligent design an don't be a ***** and think people worry about going to hell good christians know they are going some where BETTER than this hell. plus GOOD christians who devote there time to the bible usually have a very good moral apperence so why all the anti-religious bull****
Most Atheists/Agnostic-Atheists don't have anything against people simply for being theists. The problem is the rather large chunk of theists, such as yourself, that use it as an excuse to look down on others.
Your post implies that atheists will go to hell, thus serving yourself as somehow better, while acting like you're morally superior for passing that judgment. It's that extremely hypocritical self-serving attitude inherent in religion that makes it difficult not to be somewhat bitter. Still I would rather be a bitter atheist then a Hypocritical christian any day.
i am no less nor better than anyone on here and i never said you were gunna go to hell i don't know WHAT your future holds also i was just defending the actually GOOD people out there aren't that many of them these days. plus the other point i was trying to get across is intelligent design
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mercyonman
Caldari Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.08 05:25:00 -
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Originally by: Sera Ryskin Edited by: Sera Ryskin on 08/01/2009 02:33:58
Originally by: mercyonman ok first.A: Darwin or W/e his name is wrong because there is no proof on evolution
100% wrong. There is overwhelming evidence for evolution, to the point which virtually every biologist (there are always a couple of nutcases and frauds) accepts it as the correct theory. A few seconds of searching with google, something you clearly haven't done, would find all the evidence you could ask for.
Quote: B: im sorry but you cant just keep telling yourself to blend in and eventually you will blend in. no thats not how it works its called intelligent design
Please, before posting about the subject, take the time to understand what the theory of evolution does and does not claim. Nowhere in the theory does it claim that an individual organism will evolve, evolution refers to genetic changes over many generations.
Quote: an don't be a ***** and think people worry about going to hell good christians know they are going some where BETTER than this hell. plus GOOD christians who devote there time to the bible usually have a very good moral apperence
And just how many of these "good Christians" do you know? The ones I've known have worried a lot about going to hell. Or maybe you're referring to the type who claim to be perfect while lecturing everyone else on their sins?
Quote: so why all the anti-religious bull****
Because religion is factually wrong. If 90% of my country believed that the earth was flat, there would be the same kind of outrage. The fact that religion does considerable harm to both society and individuals just adds to my motivation to end it.
ok when i was talking about Darwin i meant that we in no way shape or form came from monkeys or any of that sort. also to add everything on google can't be trusted and do you know how far people will go to just try to get people to follow them? |

Arvald
Caldari MasterBlasters Inc. CORPVS DELICTI
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Posted - 2009.01.08 05:29:00 -
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Originally by: mercyonman
ok when i was talking about Darwin i meant that we in no way shape or form came from monkeys or any of that sort.
how do you know that with 100% certainty?
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mercyonman
Caldari Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.08 05:31:00 -
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Originally by: Arvald
Originally by: mercyonman
ok when i was talking about Darwin i meant that we in no way shape or form came from monkeys or any of that sort.
how do you know that with 100% certainty?
there is no link period there would still be a lasting link to show us that we evolved
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Arvald
Caldari MasterBlasters Inc. CORPVS DELICTI
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Posted - 2009.01.08 05:33:00 -
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Originally by: mercyonman
Originally by: Arvald
Originally by: mercyonman
ok when i was talking about Darwin i meant that we in no way shape or form came from monkeys or any of that sort.
how do you know that with 100% certainty?
there is no link period there would still be a lasting link to show us that we evolved
and how you know with 100% certainty that that is true? |

mercyonman
Caldari Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.08 05:35:00 -
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Originally by: Arvald
Originally by: mercyonman
Originally by: Arvald
Originally by: mercyonman
ok when i was talking about Darwin i meant that we in no way shape or form came from monkeys or any of that sort.
how do you know that with 100% certainty?
there is no link period there would still be a lasting link to show us that we evolved
and how you know with 100% certainty that that is true?
i haven't seen any half human half w/e walking around lately i ALSO haven't been seeing the scientific community boasting about there finds but he they are all focused on global warming ain't that a shame millions of dollars going to something that isn't even happening |

Arvald
Caldari MasterBlasters Inc. CORPVS DELICTI
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Posted - 2009.01.08 05:37:00 -
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Originally by: mercyonman
i haven't seen any half human half w/e walking around lately i ALSO haven't been seeing the scientific community boasting about there finds but he they are all focused on global warming ain't that a shame millions of dollars going to something that isn't even happening
thus why its called a theory. and also it has more evidence to support it then the existance of a god
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Sera Ryskin
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Posted - 2009.01.08 06:03:00 -
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Originally by: mercyonman ok when i was talking about Darwin i meant that we in no way shape or form came from monkeys or any of that sort.
You are correct, though for a very different reason than you think. We didn't come from monkeys, present-day monkeys and humans both diverged from a common ancestor. If you don't even know what the theory claims and does not claim, why do you feel that you are qualified to comment on its accuracy?
Oh, and that common ancestor? Again, backed up by vast amounts of fossil and genetic evidence.
Quote: also to add everything on google can't be trusted
Right again, but it's fairly easy to find legitimate sites. Or if you really don't trust the internet, buy a decent intro-level university biology textbook.
Originally by: mercyonman i haven't seen any half human half w/e walking around lately
And I repeat: if you do not even know what the theory does and does not claim, why do you feel that you are qualified to comment on its accuracy? This "half human" nonsense is such an absurd strawman of what the theory of evolution actually claims that I don't even know where to start on correcting you.
Quote: i ALSO haven't been seeing the scientific community boasting about there finds
You clearly haven't been looking very hard. A few seconds with google, or a few hours in a library reading scientific journals, or even a trip to the science section of your local bookstore, would give you plenty of scientists "boasting" about their recent finds.
Quote: but he they are all focused on global warming ain't that a shame
And again you show your complete lack of understanding of how science works. Global warming has absolutely nothing to do with biology, and there is no reason why global warming research would interfere with evolutionary biology.
Quote: millions of dollars going to something that isn't even happening
If I may ask, what are your scientific credentials? You seem to feel you more about the subject than a huge number of experienced scientists in relevant fields, so it should be fairly easy to give me a link to your research published in peer-reviewed scientific journals. |

Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.01.08 06:08:00 -
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Originally by: mercyonman
Originally by: Arvald
Originally by: mercyonman
ok when i was talking about Darwin i meant that we in no way shape or form came from monkeys or any of that sort.
how do you know that with 100% certainty?
there is no link period there would still be a lasting link to show us that we evolved
Wow. You have a lot to learn. |

Digital Solaris
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Posted - 2009.01.08 06:25:00 -
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Originally by: mercyonman
but he they are all focused on global warming ain't that a shame millions of dollars going to something that isn't even happening
Funny, that sounds awfully like how religion is; because how do you explain the billions of unheard prayers since some jewish hippie died on a cross for our past, present and future sins, for us all nonetheless?
Like it just ain't happening. Cruel, cruel, but hilarious irony. |
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