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Karrade Krise Galatic P0RN Starz	Posted - 2009.01.10 01:39:00 - [91] It's not your average EVE'er that you need to worry about with guns IRL...it's the carebears that make stupid mistakes and have very short HairTriggers on their EMO-RAGE-QUIT Buttons.
Lithalnas Amarr Headcrabs	Posted - 2009.01.10 01:47:00 - [92] Once you go black(powder) you never go back. so yours has a higher rate of fire, mine actually spits fire.
Karrade Krise Galatic P0RN Starz	Posted - 2009.01.10 01:49:00 - [93] Originally by: Lithalnas Once you go black(powder) you never go back. so yours has a higher rate of fire, mine actually spits fire. Mine spits Sea Men.
Icarus Helia	Posted - 2009.01.10 02:02:00 - [94] Edited by: Icarus Helia on 10/01/2009 02:05:53 listed 9x18mm russian baikal makarov. rem 870 12ga marlin 981T .22 S, L, LR Sears-roebuck Model 29 .22LR Ruger 10/22 .22LR ( http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b393/1r0nbunny/1022graphite1.jpg ) Schmidt-Rubin K31 7.5mm swiss an all matching serial #, NIM K98 made in waffen-werke bruenn, late 1944, 95% finish, SN 477xx 8x57mm mauser ( http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b393/1r0nbunny/Photo-0092.jpg ) Mosin nagant M91/30 7.62X54R Turkish M38 mauser, 8x57mm muaser CETME(Predecessor to G3) 7.62X51mm NATO ( http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b393/1r0nbunny/Photo-0092.jpg ) pictured here with my feetsies. romanian "G" kit AK, 7.62x39mm (building in progress, still making my tools) AMMO--Loaded 200 of 9x18mm JHP 600 or so of 9x18mm ball 1200+ 7.62X54R 300 8mm mauser 1000 12ga 8shot 200 12ga 1 buck 100 12ga 00 buck 100 7.5 swiss loaded in necked up .284 brass 2000 7.62 nato in 200 round battlepacks (south african) Ammo--unloaded countless pounds of IMR 4895 3000+ 168gr .308 bullets 800 180gr .323 (8mm) bullets 500 9mm makarov bullets .... who am i kidding theres too much of this stuff in my storage room >.< the 10/22 parts list is magnum-lite graphite barrel kidd trigger on order barracuda stock(nutmeg) pentax 3-9x40mm (1" tube) receiver is modified current trigger pack became a smithed project for me one weekend...trigger pull is now just under 1.5lb (standard was 8lb), auto bolt release...still need to install overtravel stop screw, and shim the take-up
tub cat	Posted - 2009.01.10 02:04:00 - [95] Edited by: tub cat on 10/01/2009 02:05:00
Bellum Eternus Gallente Death of Virtue	Posted - 2009.01.10 02:48:00 - [96] Originally by: Icarus Helia Edited by: Icarus Helia on 10/01/2009 02:05:53 listed 9x18mm russian baikal makarov. rem 870 12ga marlin 981T .22 S, L, LR Sears-roebuck Model 29 .22LR Ruger 10/22 .22LR ( http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b393/1r0nbunny/1022graphite1.jpg ) Schmidt-Rubin K31 7.5mm swiss an all matching serial #, NIM K98 made in waffen-werke bruenn, late 1944, 95% finish, SN 477xx 8x57mm mauser ( http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b393/1r0nbunny/Photo-0092.jpg ) Mosin nagant M91/30 7.62X54R Turkish M38 mauser, 8x57mm muaser CETME(Predecessor to G3) 7.62X51mm NATO ( http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b393/1r0nbunny/Photo-0092.jpg ) pictured here with my feetsies. romanian "G" kit AK, 7.62x39mm (building in progress, still making my tools) AMMO--Loaded 200 of 9x18mm JHP 600 or so of 9x18mm ball 1200+ 7.62X54R 300 8mm mauser 1000 12ga 8shot 200 12ga 1 buck 100 12ga 00 buck 100 7.5 swiss loaded in necked up .284 brass 2000 7.62 nato in 200 round battlepacks (south african) Ammo--unloaded countless pounds of IMR 4895 3000+ 168gr .308 bullets 800 180gr .323 (8mm) bullets 500 9mm makarov bullets .... who am i kidding theres too much of this stuff in my storage room >.< the 10/22 parts list is magnum-lite graphite barrel kidd trigger on order barracuda stock(nutmeg) pentax 3-9x40mm (1" tube) receiver is modified current trigger pack became a smithed project for me one weekend...trigger pull is now just under 1.5lb (standard was 8lb), auto bolt release...still need to install overtravel stop screw, and shim the take-up 1.5 pound trigger on a 10/22? Are you mad? I have a Volquartsen custom 10/22 with a match trigger group and it's not under 2.5 pounds. 1.5 pounds is crazy crazy.
Karrade Krise Galatic P0RN Starz	Posted - 2009.01.10 03:04:00 - [97] Originally by: Bellum Eternus 1.5 pound trigger on a 10/22? Are you mad? I have a Volquartsen custom 10/22 with a match trigger group and it's not under 2.5 pounds. 1.5 pounds is crazy crazy. Must be using NanoFiber...wait... Karrade-Confirming all pirate babies come from me Surfin's PlunderBunny-I always knew you were a woman Karrade-I am a man of many talents.
Icarus Helia	Posted - 2009.01.10 03:07:00 - [98] i stone polished the hammer/sear engagement areas and modified the trigger return spring. as awesome as a 1.5lb trigger is I really need to finish the modding because sometimes i accidentally bump fire a second round with the little recoil a .22 has >.< (it is possible to make something TOO good)
HankMurphy Minmatar Pelennor Enterprises	Posted - 2009.01.10 03:47:00 - [99] Originally by: Icarus Helia i stone polished the hammer/sear engagement areas and modified the trigger return spring. as awesome as a 1.5lb trigger is I really need to finish the modding because sometimes i accidentally bump fire a second round with the little recoil a .22 has >.< (it is possible to make something TOO good) i never understood the need for a hair trigger. it's my opinion that the need for a hair trigger can be overcome with more practice ---------- "This is Chopper Dave's made for TV movie, Blades Of Vengeance. See, he's a chopper pilot by day, but by night he fights crime as a werewolf... YEAH!"
tub cat	Posted - 2009.01.10 04:16:00 - [100] it wasn't so much the need for a hair trigger, as the trigger was incredibly rough (very jerky) i dont mind pulling hard, its easy enough, but when it doesnt slide back consistently and give that "SUPRISE!" its a pain. hence the polishing stones. I also clipped out a few coils from the trigger return spring for the same reason. the effect was to smooth the trigger and reduce the pull...the side effect was a hair trigger.
soldieroffortune 258 Gallente Trinity Council.	Posted - 2009.01.10 04:57:00 - [101] Originally by: HankMurphy Originally by: Icarus Helia i stone polished the hammer/sear engagement areas and modified the trigger return spring. as awesome as a 1.5lb trigger is I really need to finish the modding because sometimes i accidentally bump fire a second round with the little recoil a .22 has >.< (it is possible to make something TOO good) i never understood the need for a hair trigger. it's my opinion that the need for a hair trigger can be overcome with more practice i dont like hair triggers either almost blew my foot off w/ a .38 special, pointed at the ground, hammer pulled back when i was 12(?) that gun was cursed i swear . . . . . .
Bellum Eternus Gallente Death of Virtue	Posted - 2009.01.10 05:08:00 - [102] Originally by: Icarus Helia i stone polished the hammer/sear engagement areas and modified the trigger return spring. as awesome as a 1.5lb trigger is I really need to finish the modding because sometimes i accidentally bump fire a second round with the little recoil a .22 has >.< (it is possible to make something TOO good) I'm sure if you took it to any competent gunsmith they'd say you've ruined the trigger and that it's unsafe. I wouldn't shoot it at all in it's current condition. Doing a trigger job, particularly on a 10/22's action is a very precise thing that requires you to respect all of the original factory geometry, and if you don't know exactly what you're doing (i.e. you're a formally trained gunsmith) then you'll probably screw it up more than fix it. Messing about with triggers is literally messing about with life and death if done improperly. I'd replace the trigger group with a factory one, or order a custom drop in unit from Volquartsen or something if you want a nice clean match trigger that is actually safe.
Bellum Eternus Gallente Death of Virtue	Posted - 2009.01.10 05:12:00 - [103] Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 Originally by: HankMurphy Originally by: Icarus Helia i stone polished the hammer/sear engagement areas and modified the trigger return spring. as awesome as a 1.5lb trigger is I really need to finish the modding because sometimes i accidentally bump fire a second round with the little recoil a .22 has >.< (it is possible to make something TOO good) i never understood the need for a hair trigger. it's my opinion that the need for a hair trigger can be overcome with more practice i dont like hair triggers either almost blew my foot off w/ a .38 special, pointed at the ground, hammer pulled back when i was 12(?) that gun was cursed i swear . . . . . . A revolvers single action (the hammer is ****ed back) trigger pull is often quite light and crisp. No fault of the gun. accidental discharges, particularly with revolvers are usually due to operator error. Don't cover the trigger with your finger, ever, until the gun is on target, and this won't be an issue.
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks Terradyne Networks Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.10 05:19:00 - [104] Originally by: Bellum Eternus Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 i never understood the need for a hair trigger. it's my opinion that the need for a hair trigger can be overcome with more practice i dont like hair triggers either almost blew my foot off w/ a .38 special, pointed at the ground, hammer pulled back when i was 12(?) that gun was cursed i swear . . . . . . A revolvers single action (the hammer is **ed back) trigger pull is often quite light and crisp. No fault of the gun. accidental discharges, particularly with revolvers are usually due to operator error. Don't cover the trigger with your finger, ever, until the gun is on target, and this won't be an issue. Kinda off the beaten path but this reminds me off the service pistols the Japanese used in WW2. They were so badly made that should the hammer be **ed back it had a tendency to slip and fire off a round, even if the weapon was holstered. Many leg wounds were attributed to this fact. That .38 is a different story though, I just wanted to mention that.
doctorstupid2 The Accursed	Posted - 2009.01.10 05:47:00 - [105] Edited by: doctorstupid2 on 10/01/2009 05:47:53 Originally by: ceaon guns for home defence where you live ? some kind of bronx or something similar sorta, yea. In my 24 years, I have: > Been on the recieving end of a driveby shooting > Stopped my neighbor's house from being robbed (turned out he was armed, but was more interested in running) > Been mugged. Twice. > One of my old neighbors barricaded himself in his ex's house and proceeded to shoot it out with police after attempting to murder his ex-wife > Another old neighbor had his kitchen invaded by bears, while he was home > Had a wannabe gangbanger help himself to my house, while i was home, appearing to be casing the joint Oh, did I mention the black bears, mountain lions and occasionally bobcats that roam around my property? Calling the police does me what good in any of these situations? Defend myself with a kitchen knife (assuming I'm even home) for the 7 minute response time? Oh wait, maybe if we had police everywhere at once, I wouldn't have to call them! Er.. no, isn't that called fascism? I know, we'll ban efficient weapons from law-abiding citizens, and hope the criminals have a change of heart and come turn their weapons in too. And those mean ol' wild animals will just leave me alone, because if I'm not armed, it's not fair, and my innards don't taste quite so sweet. Yea, that'll work. Gee I hope those random *******s that like to shoot into shopping malls and crowds just call it an early night...
mercyonman Caldari Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.10 06:18:00 - [106] Originally by: Bellum Eternus Originally by: mercyonman Edited by: mercyonman on 09/01/2009 21:34:39 Originally by: Bellum Eternus Most gun owners aren't some crazy right wing fanatic with a bomb shelter and a half ton of ammo socked away. ok maybe the half a ton of ammo is correct bomb shelter is kinda on the edge and i'm pretty sure my family NOR me is crazy and saying we are crazy is kinda ignorant thing to say that only right wing people are crazy. but i also could say that leftists are dumb socialist pigs but that also could be ignorant. and your trying to make it seem like right wing people are crazy insane unstable non-trustworthy people which is 100% wrong Um, what? Re-read what I said. "Most gun owners AREN'T some crazy blah blah blah..." Why do you think I'm disparaging gun owners? Have you not read the entire thread? LOL. ahh im sorry man i posted it right after school and we had a big ass test my apologies hehe i feel like an ass maybe i shouldn't of jumped through that gate
mercyonman Caldari Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.10 06:23:00 - [107] ahh i dislike the iron sites on a makrov the recoil is amazingly small its compact but the sights are just TOO thin for my taste hehe maybe i shouldn't of jumped through that gate
mercyonman Caldari Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.10 06:24:00 - [108] Originally by: Bellum Eternus Originally by: Icarus Helia Edited by: Icarus Helia on 10/01/2009 02:05:53 listed 9x18mm russian baikal makarov. rem 870 12ga marlin 981T .22 S, L, LR Sears-roebuck Model 29 .22LR Ruger 10/22 .22LR ( http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b393/1r0nbunny/1022graphite1.jpg ) Schmidt-Rubin K31 7.5mm swiss an all matching serial #, NIM K98 made in waffen-werke bruenn, late 1944, 95% finish, SN 477xx 8x57mm mauser ( http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b393/1r0nbunny/Photo-0092.jpg ) Mosin nagant M91/30 7.62X54R Turkish M38 mauser, 8x57mm muaser CETME(Predecessor to G3) 7.62X51mm NATO ( http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b393/1r0nbunny/Photo-0092.jpg ) pictured here with my feetsies. romanian "G" kit AK, 7.62x39mm (building in progress, still making my tools) AMMO--Loaded 200 of 9x18mm JHP 600 or so of 9x18mm ball 1200+ 7.62X54R 300 8mm mauser 1000 12ga 8shot 200 12ga 1 buck 100 12ga 00 buck 100 7.5 swiss loaded in necked up .284 brass 2000 7.62 nato in 200 round battlepacks (south african) Ammo--unloaded countless pounds of IMR 4895 3000+ 168gr .308 bullets 800 180gr .323 (8mm) bullets 500 9mm makarov bullets .... who am i kidding theres too much of this stuff in my storage room >.< the 10/22 parts list is magnum-lite graphite barrel kidd trigger on order barracuda stock(nutmeg) pentax 3-9x40mm (1" tube) receiver is modified current trigger pack became a smithed project for me one weekend...trigger pull is now just under 1.5lb (standard was 8lb), auto bolt release...still need to install overtravel stop screw, and shim the take-up 1.5 pound trigger on a 10/22? Are you mad? I have a Volquartsen custom 10/22 with a match trigger group and it's not under 2.5 pounds. 1.5 pounds is crazy crazy. i have a 5 pound trigger maybe i shouldn't of jumped through that gate
Bellum Eternus Gallente Death of Virtue	Posted - 2009.01.10 08:23:00 - [109] Originally by: mercyonman Originally by: Bellum Eternus Originally by: mercyonman Edited by: mercyonman on 09/01/2009 21:34:39 Originally by: Bellum Eternus Most gun owners aren't some crazy right wing fanatic with a bomb shelter and a half ton of ammo socked away. ok maybe the half a ton of ammo is correct bomb shelter is kinda on the edge and i'm pretty sure my family NOR me is crazy and saying we are crazy is kinda ignorant thing to say that only right wing people are crazy. but i also could say that leftists are dumb socialist pigs but that also could be ignorant. and your trying to make it seem like right wing people are crazy insane unstable non-trustworthy people which is 100% wrong Um, what? Re-read what I said. "Most gun owners AREN'T some crazy blah blah blah..." Why do you think I'm disparaging gun owners? Have you not read the entire thread? LOL. ahh im sorry man i posted it right after school and we had a big ass test my apologies hehe i feel like an ass No worries I was just like 'uh, wut?' haha. Bellum Eternus Inveniam viam aut faciam. Death of Virtue is Recruiting
Nva Ris	Posted - 2009.01.10 11:08:00 - [110] can someone explain to me this urge to own a gun? does it make you guys feel more secure? were you dropped from craddle too many times as a baby? do you actually visualize yourself using it is some highly improbable situation and shooting someone? or are you simply prone to collecting useless items for their aesthetic value?
Rob Z0mbie	Posted - 2009.01.10 11:32:00 - [111] I'm not allowed to carry guns in my country, BUT, My family built a sheep ranch, and I'm the nightly guard over there, i carry some protection over there because the area is surrounded by drug outlets, i got my 4 babies and a custom made machete that was crafted by my grandfather. It's an antique, weighing at 12 kilos of high quality steel it can cut through other metal like butter. I maintain it to this day myself. Blade's nearly 30 inches in length. too bad I don't have pictures of it :/ I got attacked by a pack of dogs last year and it came in very handy
JordanParey Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2009.01.10 11:41:00 - [112] Originally by: Nva Ris can someone explain to me this urge to own a gun? does it make you guys feel more secure? were you dropped from craddle too many times as a baby? do you actually visualize yourself using it is some highly improbable situation and shooting someone? or are you simply prone to collecting useless items for their aesthetic value? Not just form, it needs function as well. You can't blow someone away with an ugly gun, it's not cool. I highly suggest something like Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. or Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. or Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. yes, ^ is actually for sale.
doctorstupid2 The Accursed	Posted - 2009.01.10 14:44:00 - [113] Edited by: doctorstupid2 on 10/01/2009 14:44:29 Originally by: Nva Ris can someone explain to me this urge to own a gun? does it make you guys feel more secure? were you dropped from craddle too many times as a baby? do you actually visualize yourself using it is some highly improbable situation and shooting someone? or are you simply prone to collecting useless items for their aesthetic value? Read my post above, http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=968119&page=4#105 Because knives just won't work. Those highly improbable situations seem to happen to me a lot more than average.
Akiba Penrose	Posted - 2009.01.10 14:48:00 - [114] AG-3 Not something i walk around with tho
Deira Lenia The Chaotic Order Void.	Posted - 2009.01.10 15:55:00 - [115] Originally by: TheEndofTheWorld Edited by: TheEndofTheWorld on 09/01/2009 19:40:45 Edited by: TheEndofTheWorld on 09/01/2009 19:36:48 Edited by: TheEndofTheWorld on 09/01/2009 19:35:26 Edited by: TheEndofTheWorld on 09/01/2009 19:34:28 Originally by: Bellum Eternus It's perceptions like this that really surprise me, but I guess the problem is that the only media that makes it to the internet is all of the weird or outrageous stuff. When I went to my concealed carry class there were people of all races and ages there. Single women, old guys, young girls (21 anyway, the legal limit), boyfriends bringing their girlfriends, women bringing their husbands. All responsible people. All concerned for their safety and determined to not be a victim. It's annoying that a firearms thread has sort of deteriorated into a second amendment thread/right to self defense thread, but whatever. Most gun owners aren't some crazy right wing fanatic with a bomb shelter and a half ton of ammo socked away. They're moms and sisters and dads and grandfathers who are responsible citizens. I don't get why people worry about people who legally own firearms lol. It's the drug dealers they should be worried about. But I digress. Quite frankly I'm surprised that so few Eve players own firearms. Particularly given that the largest subscription block of players are American. yes, yes, everyone on the media and internet agree that, everyone who is for gun control is a dirty left wing liberal communist, who have no morals, are atheist, are miserable, are pro-terrorist, are pro-tyranny and anti-freedom etcetc. The majority of EU is 95% fascists by now, all the people really want to have free guns, but those corporate fascists really give money to the corrupt government and they deny citizens the most righteous right of all. Everything SU, NGER, did was due to gun control, if everyone had guns, there would be no wars, in fact, everything that is bad is due to stupid gun controllers. It is impossible to have a good and an enjoyable life when no one you know has a private gun. Originally by: Deira Lenia a 7.62mm M24 buildyear 2006 a 7.62mm AK-101 buildyear 2004 a 9mm HK MP5K buildyear 2001 a .357 beretta buildyear 2002 a 7.62mm M4A2 buildyear 2007 a 50mm german mortar buildyear 1941 a 9mm beretta buildyear 2004 Stuff i still want SDV Draguronov 7.62mm preferb build after 1995 AK-47 7.62 preferb build after 2001 M249 7.62 preferb build after 2004 Mossberg 590 special preferb build after 2004 I prefer specific buildyears on some guns because the manufacturers changed parts, mechanics or alloys in the metal to either make it cheaper or more effective. this is freedom and democracy after all As catched in the quote already, but i guess ill quote it again. Originally by: Bellum Eternus Most gun owners aren't some crazy right wing fanatic with a bomb shelter and a half ton of ammo socked away. They're moms and sisters and dads and grandfathers who are responsible citizens. Yes and no, I have a bombshelter and probably more ammo stacked in there then you could buy at your average gunstore. Said that, being in the millitary i shoot alot of people. Thinking about it, im figuring ill never shoot a human being wile im off duty unless said human being would be threathining me, my family or my civil rights. I grew up in a country where guns are only used by cops or the army. And only a small percentage of the rest of the population has a LIMITED gunlicence which takes years to get. Freedom and democracy doesnt exist untill laws are equal to everyone. Aslong as there is money there will be power, and laws will never be equal. Corruption is in all of us, one day we will be consumed by it. And then, ill give you credit where its due. Ill be one of the maniac mofo's poppin rounds at random people because they walk on my side of the street.
tub cat	Posted - 2009.01.10 16:25:00 - [116] Edited by: tub cat on 10/01/2009 16:29:49 Originally by: Bellum Eternus Originally by: Icarus Helia i stone polished the hammer/sear engagement areas and modified the trigger return spring. as awesome as a 1.5lb trigger is I really need to finish the modding because sometimes i accidentally bump fire a second round with the little recoil a .22 has >.< (it is possible to make something TOO good) I'm sure if you took it to any competent gunsmith they'd say you've ruined the trigger and that it's unsafe. I wouldn't shoot it at all in it's current condition. Doing a trigger job, particularly on a 10/22's action is a very precise thing that requires you to respect all of the original factory geometry, and if you don't know exactly what you're doing (i.e. you're a formally trained gunsmith) then you'll probably screw it up more than fix it. Messing about with triggers is literally messing about with life and death if done improperly. I'd replace the trigger group with a factory one, or order a custom drop in unit from Volquartsen or something if you want a nice clean match trigger that is actually safe. lol, like i said, it was a weekend smithing project, im learning rather than leaving trigger work to magic, voodoo, and the ballistics gods. I have a kidd trigger on order, while i play with the parts and learn. =] I currently single feed the action, like i said, it bump fires, I can drop the gun butt down from 3ft and it doesnt go off, the trigger is safe, its just touchy, and the recoil can let it forward enough to reset the trigger, then pull back enough to fire it again. this actually results in more FTF than double fire though. (the trigger fires before the bolt closes, leaving a round int he chamber with an un****ed hammer) I'm much more skilled than many people seem to think, just because a gun is involved...ITS STILL JUST A MACHINE, and all machines are always dangerous =P (this includes toasters and blenders, even your computer, they start fires) PS:: a competent gunsmith will always find something wrong with your gun, its how they make money, otherwise theyd be out of business
Deira Lenia The Chaotic Order Void.	Posted - 2009.01.10 16:47:00 - [117] Originally by: tub cat PS:: a competent gunsmith will always find something wrong with your gun, its how they make money, otherwise theyd be out of business Completely correct QFT.

CCP Mitnal C C P CCP	Posted - 2009.01.10 17:48:00 - [118] Cleaned. Please do not post images directly into threads, please remain on-topic and post with respect towards fellow players.

Digital Solaris	Posted - 2009.01.10 17:59:00 - [119] Originally by: Bellum Eternus But I digress. Quite frankly I'm surprised that so few Eve players own firearms. Particularly given that the largest subscription block of players are American. Even if the american represent the largest subscription base, why assume that all americans even have or need a gun? Or even have a need to flash their mantoys on a internet spaceship forum?
Polkageist Minmatar No Limit Productions OWN Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.10 18:01:00 - [120] Originally by: Digital Solaris Originally by: Bellum Eternus But I digress. Quite frankly I'm surprised that so few Eve players own firearms. Particularly given that the largest subscription block of players are American. Even if the american represent the largest subscription base, why assume that all americans even have or need a gun? Or even have a need to flash their mantoys on a internet spaceship forum? i live in denmark, but if i lived in USA i would definatly buy some guns to defend myself against homeland security and stupid **** like that. I dont wanna go to no FEMA camp.

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