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Kelly O'Connor	Posted - 2004.07.25 11:13:00 - [1] http://www.eve-online.com/faq/faq_08.asp Ç14.95 for europeans per month $14.95 for everyone else per month Ç15 = $18.14 dollars $14.95 = Ç12.36 Why?
Kelly O'Connor	Posted - 2004.07.25 11:13:00 - [2] http://www.eve-online.com/faq/faq_08.asp Ç14.95 for europeans per month $14.95 for everyone else per month Ç15 = $18.14 dollars $14.95 = Ç12.36 Why?
Fal Aren	Posted - 2004.07.25 11:15:00 - [3] VAT or some kind of tax or something, it was explained in a Newsletter a long time ago. It's "legitimate". I cannae remember the exact details, though. So what? I dislike signatures... hmph
Fal Aren	Posted - 2004.07.25 11:15:00 - [4] VAT or some kind of tax or something, it was explained in a Newsletter a long time ago. It's "legitimate". I cannae remember the exact details, though. So what? I dislike signatures... hmph
Dave10	Posted - 2004.07.25 11:16:00 - [5] Probably something to do with the EU
Dave10	Posted - 2004.07.25 11:16:00 - [6] Probably something to do with the EU
W0lverine	Posted - 2004.07.25 11:17:00 - [7] cus EU pll got alot money and US are bumses
W0lverine	Posted - 2004.07.25 11:17:00 - [8] cus EU pll got alot money and US are bumses
Kelly O'Connor	Posted - 2004.07.25 11:31:00 - [9] Originally by: Fal Aren VAT or some kind of tax or something, it was explained in a Newsletter a long time ago. It's "legitimate". I cannae remember the exact details, though. afaik there is a 17.5% vat, but this is over 20%(and for some reason some mmo's dont seem to charge the 17.5% tax)
Kelly O'Connor	Posted - 2004.07.25 11:31:00 - [10] Originally by: Fal Aren VAT or some kind of tax or something, it was explained in a Newsletter a long time ago. It's "legitimate". I cannae remember the exact details, though. afaik there is a 17.5% vat, but this is over 20%(and for some reason some mmo's dont seem to charge the 17.5% tax)
The Slayer	Posted - 2004.07.25 11:32:00 - [11] Something stupid to do with taxes, dont americans pay taxes??? __________________________________________________ -EF- The Slayer
The Slayer	Posted - 2004.07.25 11:32:00 - [12] Something stupid to do with taxes, dont americans pay taxes??? __________________________________________________ -EF- The Slayer
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2004.07.25 11:36:00 - [13] Kelly, see this linky _______________________________ Subscription Price changes Subscription revenues keep EVE going and make it possible to constantly improve and evolve the game. These revenues of course mainly depend on the number of active subscribers, but are also subject to other influences outside our control. Due to changes in currency rates and value added tax legislation in Europe we must adjust our subscription price plans. Our European players will be affected by the European Union E-commerce Directive 2002/38/EC, Regulation 792/2002. This stipulates that all EU residents must pay a Value Added Tax (VAT) on electronically supplied services including online games. We are thus obligated to add a VAT on all payment transactions for customers living within the EU. In view of this, the pricing structure for Europe will be: Cost/month* Total cost* 1-month-plan Ç 14.95 Ç 14.95 3-month-plan Ç 11.95 Ç 35.85 6-month-plan Ç 10.95 Ç 65.70 * VAT included For our players in the rest of the world, what affects us is that our revenues are denominated in US dollars, while our expenses are in Icelandic kronas. As you are probably aware of the US dollar has fallen in value quite dramatically in the last couple of years, and that trend doesn't seem to be changing. We can absorb usual currency fluctuations for limited periods but this has been going on for too long a time now. In view of this, the pricing structure outside Europe will be: Cost/month Total cost 1-month-plan $ 14.95 $ 14.95 3-month-plan $ 11.95 $ 35.85 6-month-plan $ 10.95 $ 65.70 As can be seen we have done our very best to mitigate the effects of this by keeping 3-month and 6-month plans at the same price as before and only increase the 1-month subscription rate by 2 US dollars. The effective date of this price change is the 25th of February 2004 LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2004.07.25 11:36:00 - [14] Kelly, see this linky _______________________________ Subscription Price changes Subscription revenues keep EVE going and make it possible to constantly improve and evolve the game. These revenues of course mainly depend on the number of active subscribers, but are also subject to other influences outside our control. Due to changes in currency rates and value added tax legislation in Europe we must adjust our subscription price plans. Our European players will be affected by the European Union E-commerce Directive 2002/38/EC, Regulation 792/2002. This stipulates that all EU residents must pay a Value Added Tax (VAT) on electronically supplied services including online games. We are thus obligated to add a VAT on all payment transactions for customers living within the EU. In view of this, the pricing structure for Europe will be: Cost/month* Total cost* 1-month-plan Ç 14.95 Ç 14.95 3-month-plan Ç 11.95 Ç 35.85 6-month-plan Ç 10.95 Ç 65.70 * VAT included For our players in the rest of the world, what affects us is that our revenues are denominated in US dollars, while our expenses are in Icelandic kronas. As you are probably aware of the US dollar has fallen in value quite dramatically in the last couple of years, and that trend doesn't seem to be changing. We can absorb usual currency fluctuations for limited periods but this has been going on for too long a time now. In view of this, the pricing structure outside Europe will be: Cost/month Total cost 1-month-plan $ 14.95 $ 14.95 3-month-plan $ 11.95 $ 35.85 6-month-plan $ 10.95 $ 65.70 As can be seen we have done our very best to mitigate the effects of this by keeping 3-month and 6-month plans at the same price as before and only increase the 1-month subscription rate by 2 US dollars. The effective date of this price change is the 25th of February 2004 LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Negotiator	Posted - 2004.07.25 11:38:00 - [15] afaik, we dont have a tax on virtual services here in US.
Negotiator	Posted - 2004.07.25 11:38:00 - [16] afaik, we dont have a tax on virtual services here in US.
Kelly O'Connor	Posted - 2004.07.25 12:20:00 - [17] 17.5% vat, we are being charged 20% extra.
Kelly O'Connor	Posted - 2004.07.25 12:20:00 - [18] 17.5% vat, we are being charged 20% extra.
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2004.07.25 12:33:00 - [19] If only CCP was located in the US....then we EU people wouldnt have to pay this VAT thing... --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2004.07.25 12:33:00 - [20] If only CCP was located in the US....then we EU people wouldnt have to pay this VAT thing... --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Nicholas Marshal	Posted - 2004.07.25 12:56:00 - [21] Originally by: Fal Aren it was explained in a Newsletter a long time ago. When will we get another newsletter then ? They said it would be a regular thing.
Nicholas Marshal	Posted - 2004.07.25 12:56:00 - [22] Originally by: Fal Aren it was explained in a Newsletter a long time ago. When will we get another newsletter then ? They said it would be a regular thing.
Omega Man	Posted - 2004.07.25 13:20:00 - [23] regular is not frequent. Halley's comet is regular.
Omega Man	Posted - 2004.07.25 13:20:00 - [24] regular is not frequent. Halley's comet is regular.
Hans Schinkel	Posted - 2004.07.25 13:37:00 - [25] Originally by: Joshua Foiritan If only CCP was located in the US....then we EU people wouldnt have to pay this VAT thing... Europeans would still have to pay VAT even if CCP were an American company.
Hans Schinkel	Posted - 2004.07.25 13:37:00 - [26] Originally by: Joshua Foiritan If only CCP was located in the US....then we EU people wouldnt have to pay this VAT thing... Europeans would still have to pay VAT even if CCP were an American company.
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2004.07.25 13:40:00 - [27] Edited by: Joshua Foiritan on 25/07/2004 13:48:45 Originally by: Hans S***el Originally by: Joshua Foiritan If only CCP was located in the US....then we EU people wouldnt have to pay this VAT thing... Europeans would still have to pay VAT even if CCP were an American company. Odd, a game Called DarkSpace, located in the Us charges $10 to all of its subscribers around the world. So why cant eve? edited by Eris Discordia --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2004.07.25 13:40:00 - [28] Edited by: Joshua Foiritan on 25/07/2004 13:48:45 Originally by: Hans S***el Originally by: Joshua Foiritan If only CCP was located in the US....then we EU people wouldnt have to pay this VAT thing... Europeans would still have to pay VAT even if CCP were an American company. Odd, a game Called DarkSpace, located in the Us charges $10 to all of its subscribers around the world. So why cant eve? edited by Eris Discordia --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Eris Discordia	Posted - 2004.07.25 14:36:00 - [29] Be nice now and please stay on-topic I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage Mail [email protected] if you have any questions.
Eris Discordia	Posted - 2004.07.25 14:36:00 - [30] Be nice now and please stay on-topic I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage Mail [email protected] if you have any questions.

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