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Romay	Posted - 2009.01.10 18:26:00 - [1] Me wants to. Any usable ships/setups?
Rilwar 22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit	Posted - 2009.01.10 18:27:00 - [2] A carrier with a hold filled with as many officer/faction/deadspace items it can hold.
Romay	Posted - 2009.01.10 18:31:00 - [3] Edited by: Romay on 10/01/2009 18:31:06 Thanks for the fitting, but unfortunately I must rule that out. A bit too expensive for my needs.
Formulka	Posted - 2009.01.10 18:37:00 - [4] honour tank > hull tank imho
Thenoran Caldari Hegemony Enterprises HEGEM0NY	Posted - 2009.01.10 18:45:00 - [5] Originally by: Romay Edited by: Romay on 10/01/2009 18:31:06 Thanks for the fitting, but unfortunately I must rule that out. A bit too expensive for my needs. Armageddon with Damage Control II & 7xReinforced Bulkheads?
Arous Drephius Perkone	Posted - 2009.01.10 19:50:00 - [6] Dominix with damage control + reinforced bulkheads.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2009.01.10 21:29:00 - [7] Originally by: Arous Drephius Dominix with damage control + reinforced bulkheads. highly unexpected, but a pain in the ass to repair
ry ry	Posted - 2009.01.10 22:08:00 - [8] Edited by: ry ry on 10/01/2009 22:10:08 great baitships though. i suggested this to my corp loads of times but nobody was prepared to fly it (for obvious reasons). leaves all your mids free for points & webs and highs for nos/neut/smarties, and by the time the enemy gang realise you're hull-tanking your gang should be ontop of them. killmail-lust should keep them there even when local spikes since normally hull = f*cked. i'd imagine it'd only work once though.
Omarvelous Destry's Lounge	Posted - 2009.01.10 23:11:00 - [9] Originally by: ry ry Edited by: ry ry on 10/01/2009 22:10:08 great baitships though. i suggested this to my corp loads of times but nobody was prepared to fly it (for obvious reasons). leaves all your mids free for points & webs and highs for nos/neut/smarties, and by the time the enemy gang realise you're hull-tanking your gang should be ontop of them. killmail-lust should keep them there even when local spikes since normally hull = f*cked. i'd imagine it'd only work once though. Imagine your idea with a remote hull rep gang...
P'uck	Posted - 2009.01.10 23:13:00 - [10] Blasteranis

Shereza	Posted - 2009.01.10 23:40:00 - [11] [Dominix, Hull Tank] Damage Control II Power Diagnostic System II Co-Processor II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Capacitor Power Relay II Capacitor Power Relay II 100MN Afterburner II Large 'Integrative' Hull Repair Unit Large 'Integrative' Hull Repair Unit Large 'Integrative' Hull Repair Unit Large 'Integrative' Hull Repair Unit Ion Blaster Cannon II, Antimatter Charge L Ion Blaster Cannon II, Antimatter Charge L Ion Blaster Cannon II, Antimatter Charge L Ion Blaster Cannon II, Antimatter Charge L Ion Blaster Cannon II, Antimatter Charge L Ion Blaster Cannon II, Antimatter Charge L Capacitor Control Circuit I Capacitor Control Circuit I Capacitor Control Circuit I Ogre II x5 1044 DPS, only 120 omni tank. Need at least a 1-3% CPU implant, even at max skills. [Dominix, Hull Tank] Damage Control II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Co-Processor II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Capacitor Power Relay II Capacitor Power Relay II 100MN Afterburner II Large 'Integrative' Hull Repair Unit Large 'Integrative' Hull Repair Unit Large 'Integrative' Hull Repair Unit Large 'Integrative' Hull Repair Unit Electron Blaster Cannon II, Antimatter Charge L Electron Blaster Cannon II, Antimatter Charge L Electron Blaster Cannon II, Antimatter Charge L Electron Blaster Cannon II, Antimatter Charge L Electron Blaster Cannon II, Antimatter Charge L Electron Blaster Cannon II, Antimatter Charge L Capacitor Control Circuit I Capacitor Control Circuit I Capacitor Control Circuit I Ogre II x5 1073, not cap-stable, shorter range, same sucky tank. [Rokh, Hull Tank] Damage Control II Co-Processor II Capacitor Power Relay II Capacitor Power Relay II Capacitor Power Relay II Large 'Integrative' Hull Repair Unit Large 'Integrative' Hull Repair Unit Large 'Integrative' Hull Repair Unit Large 'Integrative' Hull Repair Unit Large 'Integrative' Hull Repair Unit Large 'Integrative' Hull Repair Unit 350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L 350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L 350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L 350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L 350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L 350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L 350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L 350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L Capacitor Control Circuit I Capacitor Control Circuit I Capacitor Control Circuit I Hammerhead II x5 429 DPS, but it'll tank 180 DPS, a whole 50% more than the dominix! ____________________ Minmatar in Fantasy or Duct Tape Goes Medieval.
Romay	Posted - 2009.01.10 23:52:00 - [12] Wow, not too bad. But wouldn't a buffer tank be better if you play bait? Something like: Bait gets jumped, aggressor doesn't call in his friends since he can "finish off this noob alone", while he is chewing through bait's hull, gang arrives.
Romay	Posted - 2009.01.10 23:53:00 - [13] BTW: I'm quite sure, if Chuck Norris played EVE, he'd perma-hull-tank.
Xiaodown coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2009.01.11 00:09:00 - [14] Edited by: Xiaodown on 11/01/2009 00:11:16 Uhh, I've run the numbers for a Moros, and I suspect they'll be the same for a Rev. If you set up your Moros with a T2 damage control and a full rack of T2 reinforced bulkheads, and also there's a 5% hull HP implant, you can hit something like 3,500,000 effective HP omni buffer tank. This WAAAAY outclasses even faction resistance armor tanks. I was setting up my moros with faction energized armor thingies and maxed armor skills, and getting something around 1.5 million EHP, and in siege mode, running the rep until cap was drained, and then as soon as I had any cap, not firing any guns, something like 2.7M EHP. The hull buffer tank does way better than that. Yeah. Edit: really only viable in a situation where you have access to a 0.0 station where repairs are free. Repairing this in-station in empire would bankrupt you, and to repair by repping, you'd be talking sitting inside a pos with a full rack of hull reppers going for probably a day. -- Sig under construction.
ThaDollaGenerale The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.01.11 03:19:00 - [15] Those are perhaps the worst hull tanks I've ever seen. It's all about buffer not repairing. [Dominix, Hull Tank] Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Damage Control II Warp Disruptor II Stasis Webifier II Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets Extra Magnetometric ECCM Scanning Array I Heavy Energy Neutralizer II Heavy Energy Neutralizer II Heavy Energy Neutralizer II Medium Nosferatu II Medium Nosferatu II [empty high slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Berserker II x5 104k EHP 32K Structure 273 DPS Switch to cheaper stuff because you're going to DIAF anyways.
Ong	Posted - 2009.01.11 07:38:00 - [16] What i really wanna know is why there isant a hull version of the trimark, or shield extender rig? a hull buffer tanked brutix works well, would be awesome with some riggs!!!
ry ry	Posted - 2009.01.11 12:08:00 - [17] Edited by: ry ry on 11/01/2009 12:09:32 Originally by: ThaDollaGenerale Those are perhaps the worst hull tanks I've ever seen. It's all about buffer not repairing. [RBHII fit] isn't that basically what i suggested? ;)
Debonair Dan	Posted - 2009.01.11 12:17:00 - [18] What's with the active tanks? Real men buffer hull tank.
P'uck	Posted - 2009.01.11 12:42:00 - [19] Yup.... real men suitcase-tank.
Mona X Caldari Polish Task Forces C0VEN	Posted - 2009.01.11 13:13:00 - [20] We need capital Hull Repairer.

Shereza	Posted - 2009.01.11 18:29:00 - [21] Originally by: ThaDollaGenerale Those are perhaps the worst hull tanks I've ever seen. It's all about buffer not repairing. Those are probably the best active hull tanks you'll ever see too. Still, that was rather the point. So CPU-heavy that even the rokh has to fit a CPU booster and still the DPS tanking sucks. Perhaps its just semantics or somesuch but when I hear "hull tanking" I think "active," same with armor and shield. Buffer tanking is just that, buffer, no matter what you buffer, often listed as "armor buffer tanking" or "buffer tank the shields" or somesuch, but normally as I read just flat x tanking is more often than not active non-buffer tanking which was the view I posted from. That aside my post was pretty much to show how bad an idea active hull tanking would be, not to promote it as a viable idea. Though a 120 tank 1k+ DPS dominix might be useful in L3 missions.... If you can't fly a battlecruiser.
TimMc Gallente Brutal Deliverance OWN Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.11 19:04:00 - [22] [Megathron, Man Tank] Damage Control II Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Co-Processor II Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets Warp Disruptor II Stasis Webifier II Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800 Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L [empty high slot] Hybrid Burst Aerator I Hybrid Collision Accelerator I [empty rig slot] Ogre II x5 1000dps, 98k EHP, super slow, damn cheap. Enjoy.


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