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Darrin Tobruk
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Posted - 2004.07.25 23:29:00 -
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I hope you get the bastards. _______________________________________________ Eris Discordia: On the scale of funny and constructive it scores low, real low. |

Darrin Tobruk
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Posted - 2004.07.25 23:29:00 -
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I hope you get the bastards. _______________________________________________ Eris Discordia: On the scale of funny and constructive it scores low, real low. |

Seras Victoria
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Posted - 2004.07.26 06:19:00 -
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I look forward to helping Genco make these bastards pay. 
I have a LOT of ammo sitting here for you DrakoWolf & Harberk...
Genco has my full support in this operation. The next few months of my eve life are dedicated to making Rebels Ltd. pay for this treachery.
-- Seras Victoria. Ex Genco Member of 7 months.
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Seras Victoria
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Posted - 2004.07.26 06:19:00 -
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I look forward to helping Genco make these bastards pay. 
I have a LOT of ammo sitting here for you DrakoWolf & Harberk...
Genco has my full support in this operation. The next few months of my eve life are dedicated to making Rebels Ltd. pay for this treachery.
-- Seras Victoria. Ex Genco Member of 7 months.
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Seleene
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Posted - 2004.07.26 06:35:00 -
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Sad. I find this sort of thing distasteful, but the fact of the matter is that a periodic review of member permissions would fix a lot of these thefts.
Another solution is to only use BPCs when making battleships and such. The only thing stored in corp hangars should be COPIES. Yeah, so it takes a day or two longer (less usually) to get a production run off of a copy, but so what? The BPOs of anything valuable should be on a reasearch alt in another corp entirely. Burn off copies of anything needed and then put those in the production hangar.
Why people store T2 and BS BPOs, hell... ANY BPO in a common area of any sort is just beyond my comprehension.
Sorry to hear it, GENCO, I really am, but until people learn to take proper steps against this sort of thing, it will continue to happen over and over. -
T2 Weapons Testing in progress! Volunteer today! |

Seleene
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Posted - 2004.07.26 06:35:00 -
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Sad. I find this sort of thing distasteful, but the fact of the matter is that a periodic review of member permissions would fix a lot of these thefts.
Another solution is to only use BPCs when making battleships and such. The only thing stored in corp hangars should be COPIES. Yeah, so it takes a day or two longer (less usually) to get a production run off of a copy, but so what? The BPOs of anything valuable should be on a reasearch alt in another corp entirely. Burn off copies of anything needed and then put those in the production hangar.
Why people store T2 and BS BPOs, hell... ANY BPO in a common area of any sort is just beyond my comprehension.
Sorry to hear it, GENCO, I really am, but until people learn to take proper steps against this sort of thing, it will continue to happen over and over. -
T2 Weapons Testing in progress! Volunteer today! |

Wishdokkta
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Posted - 2004.07.26 07:39:00 -
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Edited by: Wishdokkta on 26/07/2004 07:41:09 Hmm. Dont know Genco, and have never heard of these theives. That said, my condolances on the loss of your assets, I dont think you can be blamed for bad judgement, you obviously knew this guy. Lets just hope that CCP get this whole corp-theif thing sorted with shiva, in the meantime these thieves will be added to FREEKS-U ****list. It will be our pleasure to deliver their corpses to you should we encounter them on our urm....excursions shall we say  Bad luck again and good luck in handing their arses to them.
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Wishdokkta
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Posted - 2004.07.26 07:39:00 -
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Edited by: Wishdokkta on 26/07/2004 07:41:09 Hmm. Dont know Genco, and have never heard of these theives. That said, my condolances on the loss of your assets, I dont think you can be blamed for bad judgement, you obviously knew this guy. Lets just hope that CCP get this whole corp-theif thing sorted with shiva, in the meantime these thieves will be added to FREEKS-U ****list. It will be our pleasure to deliver their corpses to you should we encounter them on our urm....excursions shall we say  Bad luck again and good luck in handing their arses to them.
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Toma Hawk
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Posted - 2004.07.26 08:56:00 -
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i feel sorrow to hear that a honoured Corp like GENCO got hit hard with the worst thing that can happen in EVE.
i hope you stay, rebuild GENCO and satisfy your revenge
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Toma Hawk
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Posted - 2004.07.26 08:56:00 -
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i feel sorrow to hear that a honoured Corp like GENCO got hit hard with the worst thing that can happen in EVE.
i hope you stay, rebuild GENCO and satisfy your revenge
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Eviljohn
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Posted - 2004.07.26 09:16:00 -
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ROLMAO im in tears,fair play to the thief haul of a lifetime another carebear corp shafted GREAT ONE!!!!
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Eviljohn
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Posted - 2004.07.26 09:16:00 -
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ROLMAO im in tears,fair play to the thief haul of a lifetime another carebear corp shafted GREAT ONE!!!!
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Fuse
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Posted - 2004.07.26 09:43:00 -
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I am outraged at what people can get away with in this game. The amount of backstabing that goes on in this game is insane. 0.o It's not you... no wait it is you. |

Fuse
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Posted - 2004.07.26 09:43:00 -
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I am outraged at what people can get away with in this game. The amount of backstabing that goes on in this game is insane. 0.o It's not you... no wait it is you. |

Nicholas Marshal
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Posted - 2004.07.26 09:45:00 -
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Originally by: Fuse I am outraged at what people can get away with in this game. The amount of backstabing that goes on in this game is insane.
Eve mirrors real life, unfortunately.
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Nicholas Marshal
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Posted - 2004.07.26 09:45:00 -
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Originally by: Fuse I am outraged at what people can get away with in this game. The amount of backstabing that goes on in this game is insane.
Eve mirrors real life, unfortunately.
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Lanu
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Posted - 2004.07.26 10:56:00 -
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Ill kill them when i can i can't stand this kind of people  
boo
"You are most like the Cat, lazy and quiet. You aren't very exciting yet everyone notices your presence."
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Lanu
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Posted - 2004.07.26 10:56:00 -
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Ill kill them when i can i can't stand this kind of people  
boo
"You are most like the Cat, lazy and quiet. You aren't very exciting yet everyone notices your presence."
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Harmonic
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Posted - 2004.07.26 11:16:00 -
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Edited by: Harmonic on 26/07/2004 11:17:59 Edited by: Harmonic on 26/07/2004 11:17:36 Although I feel very sad that this has happened to former corp mates and friends i must raise a point.
Was there not a corp theft previously where a warning was left about the openness of security? I know that the person who stole the bpo's was a director and "friend". I just think that perhaps its best that the BPO's are kept somewhere where only the ceo can access them?
I know this is locking the door after the horse has bolted but perhaps other corps can learn from this tragedy!
If i can help Genco with anything please let me know.
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Harmonic
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Posted - 2004.07.26 11:16:00 -
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Edited by: Harmonic on 26/07/2004 11:17:59 Edited by: Harmonic on 26/07/2004 11:17:36 Although I feel very sad that this has happened to former corp mates and friends i must raise a point.
Was there not a corp theft previously where a warning was left about the openness of security? I know that the person who stole the bpo's was a director and "friend". I just think that perhaps its best that the BPO's are kept somewhere where only the ceo can access them?
I know this is locking the door after the horse has bolted but perhaps other corps can learn from this tragedy!
If i can help Genco with anything please let me know.
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Paw Sandberg
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Posted - 2004.07.26 13:53:00 -
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THIS SUCKS
I was in Shadow Legacy for a long time we also had problems with Corp theft (mostly just public and W&A hangers) and i can only hope that come Shiva there will be some way of tracking down these scummy peoble
like someone else said these peoble are scammers nothing more nothing less and its a sad thing that CCP has done nothing before now to protect the corp's
Thank You Paw Sandberg
for all your BPC needs see http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=55706&page=1
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Paw Sandberg
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Posted - 2004.07.26 13:53:00 -
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THIS SUCKS
I was in Shadow Legacy for a long time we also had problems with Corp theft (mostly just public and W&A hangers) and i can only hope that come Shiva there will be some way of tracking down these scummy peoble
like someone else said these peoble are scammers nothing more nothing less and its a sad thing that CCP has done nothing before now to protect the corp's
Thank You Paw Sandberg
for all your BPC needs see http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=55706&page=1
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nieo
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Posted - 2004.07.26 13:57:00 -
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Harmonic, afaik all that was missing at that point was later returned with a note saying "check your security". Considering 90% of the ones with access is IRL friends, should you go all out paranoid?
It is a game. Your only asset here is your word and your capability of honor it. Trust. Without trust you are nothing.
I have to admit though, they did a great job getting that trust over the course of several months. I've moved on from Genco but still feel as if they took MY stuff.
And you never take a Sharks stuff without getting bitten 
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nieo
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Posted - 2004.07.26 13:57:00 -
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Harmonic, afaik all that was missing at that point was later returned with a note saying "check your security". Considering 90% of the ones with access is IRL friends, should you go all out paranoid?
It is a game. Your only asset here is your word and your capability of honor it. Trust. Without trust you are nothing.
I have to admit though, they did a great job getting that trust over the course of several months. I've moved on from Genco but still feel as if they took MY stuff.
And you never take a Sharks stuff without getting bitten 
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MadGaz
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Posted - 2004.07.26 14:26:00 -
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Originally by: Nicholas Marshal Eve mirrors real life, unfortunately.
Unfortunetly for these guys, criminals get punished in real life, here they get away with it. ------------------------------------------
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MadGaz
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Posted - 2004.07.26 14:26:00 -
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Originally by: Nicholas Marshal Eve mirrors real life, unfortunately.
Unfortunetly for these guys, criminals get punished in real life, here they get away with it. ------------------------------------------
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HDCamper Itsim
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Posted - 2004.07.26 15:36:00 -
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EvilJohn Your either roleplaying or never had too much taken from or you just haven't worked hard and had it ripped from you with no hope of getting it back. What you have said is rude and your just being a troll. Move along.
Back to the topic.. BTW don't get those fellows confused with the current ION members in game. I'm sure if other ION members read the forums they would pipe in and say this sucks hard and sorry for the loss. CCP really needs to ***** down on this crap. You would think that if they were trying to fix thefts of this nature as "not what they intended to have happen in game" they would take a look and just not say sorry for your loss keep paying your monthly fees. Everyone playing EVE isn't a thief but this doesn't make for a very meaningful international corp type of game. Perhaps they have taken action in the past about corp thieves - I haven't read much where as they have. The Scam business looks as rampant as ever and expect it to get worse before any possible fixes. Bounties are roughly worthless. All the scammers have to do is buy another character or create a new one and transfer there stuff over and leave the other corp and character there as a target til the subscription is over or just not login with it any longer. There is hardly a way to get any satisfaction or justice when your a victim in this game by these types of "players". Yeah, every situation is probably different and needs to be handled differently but currently I don't see how there can be much retaliation in game to this behavior. Petition sure don't look to be the answer if the information they send ya back is yes it looks like the following characters were involved. If you do get the oportunity to pod them repeatedly more power to you. I also hope it was a GM who said petition it, at least that is some hope they may do something. I don't even wish corp theft on the "wherever the list went to of the most hated corps in EVE." Hope the majority of people in EVE doesn't think this is simply scamming.... If CCP/Concord has made corp thieves pay - Id like to read about it in the news.
Sorry for your loss
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HDCamper Itsim
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Posted - 2004.07.26 15:36:00 -
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EvilJohn Your either roleplaying or never had too much taken from or you just haven't worked hard and had it ripped from you with no hope of getting it back. What you have said is rude and your just being a troll. Move along.
Back to the topic.. BTW don't get those fellows confused with the current ION members in game. I'm sure if other ION members read the forums they would pipe in and say this sucks hard and sorry for the loss. CCP really needs to ***** down on this crap. You would think that if they were trying to fix thefts of this nature as "not what they intended to have happen in game" they would take a look and just not say sorry for your loss keep paying your monthly fees. Everyone playing EVE isn't a thief but this doesn't make for a very meaningful international corp type of game. Perhaps they have taken action in the past about corp thieves - I haven't read much where as they have. The Scam business looks as rampant as ever and expect it to get worse before any possible fixes. Bounties are roughly worthless. All the scammers have to do is buy another character or create a new one and transfer there stuff over and leave the other corp and character there as a target til the subscription is over or just not login with it any longer. There is hardly a way to get any satisfaction or justice when your a victim in this game by these types of "players". Yeah, every situation is probably different and needs to be handled differently but currently I don't see how there can be much retaliation in game to this behavior. Petition sure don't look to be the answer if the information they send ya back is yes it looks like the following characters were involved. If you do get the oportunity to pod them repeatedly more power to you. I also hope it was a GM who said petition it, at least that is some hope they may do something. I don't even wish corp theft on the "wherever the list went to of the most hated corps in EVE." Hope the majority of people in EVE doesn't think this is simply scamming.... If CCP/Concord has made corp thieves pay - Id like to read about it in the news.
Sorry for your loss
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Kaaii
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Posted - 2004.07.26 15:54:00 -
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Edited by: Kaaii on 26/07/2004 16:02:45
I think whats really sadest about this (and other incidents like it), is that the "hard working, honest folks" finish last.
You see it every day. Corp thieves bragging about there "accomplishments" (sic), ore thieves pounding thier chest claiming they are l337, escrow scams, lab slot/office slot scammers making more in a few short minutes then someone mineing, killing rats, bounty hunting or even pirating can make in hours of play.
This game favors (and rewards) the wicked.
I won't begin to open the "morals" can of worms, because it is a game, not real life, and those two don't compare.
I will say this, however, that it is a sad reflection of the current mindset of those who value the "instant gratification" of themselves, over the general populations feeling that someones hard work should be worth more then w*h*o*r*e*ing thier personnal reputation out to the highest bidder..
Wishing you a speedy return to prosperity...
Kaaii Lead Scientist IDEV
"..Id rather fall beside 10 lions, then stand with One thousand sheep.."
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Kaaii
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Posted - 2004.07.26 15:54:00 -
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Edited by: Kaaii on 26/07/2004 16:02:45
I think whats really sadest about this (and other incidents like it), is that the "hard working, honest folks" finish last.
You see it every day. Corp thieves bragging about there "accomplishments" (sic), ore thieves pounding thier chest claiming they are l337, escrow scams, lab slot/office slot scammers making more in a few short minutes then someone mineing, killing rats, bounty hunting or even pirating can make in hours of play.
This game favors (and rewards) the wicked.
I won't begin to open the "morals" can of worms, because it is a game, not real life, and those two don't compare.
I will say this, however, that it is a sad reflection of the current mindset of those who value the "instant gratification" of themselves, over the general populations feeling that someones hard work should be worth more then w*h*o*r*e*ing thier personnal reputation out to the highest bidder..
Wishing you a speedy return to prosperity...
Kaaii Lead Scientist IDEV
"..Id rather fall beside 10 lions, then stand with One thousand sheep.."
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