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Lyric Lahnder
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
20
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Posted - 2012.04.24 19:45:00 -
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Hate for miners is justified simply on the premise that every one is entitled to there opinion. Just as miners are entitled to believe there should be no un consensual pvp in high sec, because that day will never come.
You can hate on miners all you want. Just dont make the statement: Mining shouldn't exist as a profession in this game. Just like no un consensual pvp in empire will never be a realty, neither can be the complete abandonment of one profession in game.
Why the hate on miners?
Doesn't matter. As long as it doesn't result in the complete removal of mining as a profession, it wont radically alter this game.
Just is.
Hater's gonna hate.
Minner gonna mine.
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David Cedarbridge
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
204
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Posted - 2012.04.24 23:02:00 -
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Amiar wrote:So much hate in this thread. See'ing the oppinion of both nerd jerks and carebears it seems like in some why all you end up whining about is CCP's changes to game mechanics. It seems like the highsec nerd jerks are in need for highsec to become lowsec. Thus is my question? Why spend your so preciusered hours in a over populated highsec when there's a not so full lowsec for you?
That aint good enough though. Because if you go lowsec you end up getting shot yourself thus it spoils your gameplay. So you choose to stay in highsec, wardec'ing indy corps who supply ships for pvp'ers, suicide gank hulks because you cant shoot anything else or just scam because you see other do it and choose to be just as lazy.
The bottum line is: Want ganks, go lowsec and take upon the games pvp you claim this game to be only. Care about your sec status? Well then theres nullsec.
Highsec are safe heaven and yes you can make isk there, but as much as in low or null? I doubt it. With risk comes isk.
So stop the bullshit about market control or whatever, because if you claim that, you'll look like one of the types mentioned above.
So which one are you? A pvp'er or a carebear. Highsec = carebear. Lowsec/null = PvP'er.
See its posts like this that just give people that already enjoy ganking you more ammo to do so. You're so fundamentally out of touch with the way that EVE works. High sec never has been and never should become a PVP-free zone. The sooner you understand this, the sooner you will understand what EVE is about. EVE is not a theme park. EVE is not a guided tour. EVE is a sandbox and every choice has a series of possible outcomes. Miners gather materials and put them on the market. When prices compete on the market, PVP happens. Gankers shoot miners, PVP happens. Low and Null ships shoot each other for whatever reason, PVP happens. One fleet loads up local with all manner of the finest spam so that the other side doesn't have the chance to taunt or jeer back, PVP happens.
One of these days you'll either face the fact that you are playing a PVP game or keep operating in ignorance wondering why people don't play the game you think you're playing how you think it is meant to be played. |
Lollipops and Sunshine
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.04.26 17:11:00 -
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MIkhail Illiad wrote:So I ask you the denizens of C&P, why all the hate yo?
because one group of nerds in a computer game doesn't like that another group of nerds in the game are playing it differently.
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Immortis Vexx
Lupus Draconis
Dragehund
13
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Posted - 2012.04.26 17:35:00 -
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tessrgoonssheep baaaaaaahhhh wrote:Immortis Vexx wrote:Stuff i wrote.. Shortened because it was a wall of text
Vexx come on out to Venal Vexx. as soon as we burn Jita's sexy tush to the ground tomorrow, to make fun of NCDOT and Raiden and their co-horts, I''m going to bring my battle hulk out to play in that last sytem they so epically died in, hint: ahem and take on their pathetic sub-cap fleet on myself.  money talks and bs flies!!!!!! TEST ALLIANCE IS THE BEST ALLIANCE!!! I love the CFC <3 see you all in Venal.
I have a lolfit orca that i keep on hand for just such occasions. I'd undock @ Jita 4-4 and let wave after wave of idiots throw themselves at my ~300kEHP orca just for the LOLz (usually done with a PLEX in the cargo for extra incentive). Alas, I will be out of town in the advent of the "Burn Jita" initiative. I wish you the best in your attempted conflagration of our capital system.
Vexx
EDIT: Plus orcas and plexes are just too damn expensive these days for that kind of LOL |
colonel kurz
New Rome corp.
0
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Posted - 2012.04.27 15:56:00 -
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Less ore mined = less materials refined = less ships and fittings produced = more costs for replace and fitting lost ships = less PVP
So - in my opinion - PVPers hating miners are basically like men thinking that cutting away their own **** would be a nice way to displease women.
And that's even the reason why CCP listens to miners whinings more than to "burnitall" minded pvp ragers: because more mining, after all, is in the interest of both miners AND pvpers. |
colonel kurz
New Rome corp.
0
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Posted - 2012.04.27 15:59:00 -
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double post, sry |
colonel kurz
New Rome corp.
0
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Posted - 2012.04.27 16:00:00 -
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triple post, sry (confused twice edit with quote) |
Velicitia
Open Designs
887
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Posted - 2012.04.27 16:46:00 -
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Daemon Ceed wrote: Now if I could just find where I put my tear bucket. :looks around:
You left it with that guy over there to make it T2, remember?  |
Amber Solaire
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.04.27 21:46:00 -
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colonel kurz wrote:Less ore mined = less materials refined = less ships and fittings produced = more costs for replace and fitting lost ships = less PVP
You make a good point there; having a Hulkageddon now, just after the drone/meta0 loot nerf is extraordinary bad timing
It will hurt the missioners more than the miners...... 
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Helicity Boson
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
340
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Posted - 2012.04.27 21:49:00 -
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http://hulkageddon5.machine9.net/
ladies and gentlethings,
The Hulkageddon V website is now operational, all the details about your favorite event are inside!
KILL SHIPS! MAKE MONEY! WIN PRIZES!
BURN EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM! |
Tina Mori
Maniacal Miners INC
Cosmic Maniacs
3
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Posted - 2012.04.28 00:53:00 -
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oh just shutup, you silly cow....
Your Hulkageddon is very poorly timed, with the droneloot and meta0 mission loot nerf
(I bet you PvPers will be the first to whine about lack of supplies, you dug your own hole...) |
Helicity Boson
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
343
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Posted - 2012.04.28 01:02:00 -
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Tina Mori wrote:oh just shutup, you silly cow....
Your Hulkageddon is very poorly timed, with the droneloot and meta0 mission loot nerf
(I bet you PvPers will be the first to whine about lack of supplies, you dug your own hole...)
You sound mad? This hulkageddon is /expertly/ timed you see~ |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Ponies for the Ethical Treatment of Asteroids
1089
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Posted - 2012.04.28 01:06:00 -
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Helicity Boson wrote:Tina Mori wrote:oh just shutup, you silly cow....
Your Hulkageddon is very poorly timed, with the droneloot and meta0 mission loot nerf
(I bet you PvPers will be the first to whine about lack of supplies, you dug your own hole...) You sound mad? This hulkageddon is /expertly/ timed you see~
And a o7 to whoever figured out the way around the "I just won't undock for a week" tactic people bragged about the last 4 times  |
Katran Luftschreck
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2012.04.28 13:54:00 -
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MIkhail Illiad wrote:I or one can't be bothered mining the minerals to build even a frigate let alone a battleship so I say fair play to those who can and aren't using macros and bots to do it.
Which is especially funny considering the number of null-sec "PvPers" who use bots themselves. Combat bots/macros, to be more precise.
What, you think those guys who sit inside warp disruption bubbles for 23.5 hours a day are really at their keyboards? Heck no, they just set up their bots to shoot anything that comes into range that isn't flagged the "right" color and walk away. Disrupt, web, shoot, disrupt, web, shoot. It's all done on autopilot, no human input required.
That's why I call them "Jellyfish" - no brain, just a big blob with a bunch of tentacles floating in space waiting to sting anything that blunders into them. They are the very essence of gate camps.
Not that I blame them, because sitting inside a bubble for 23.5 hours a day to guard your alliance's borders would make mining look exciting in comparison. |
Katja Faith
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
63
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Posted - 2012.04.28 16:24:00 -
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Helicity Boson wrote:Tina Mori wrote:oh just shutup, you silly cow....
Your Hulkageddon is very poorly timed, with the droneloot and meta0 mission loot nerf
(I bet you PvPers will be the first to whine about lack of supplies, you dug your own hole...) You sound mad? This hulkageddon is /expertly/ timed you see~
Give it up already. Nobody cares anymore. The days of HG ended with the Tier 3 ships. |
Helicity Boson
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
345
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Posted - 2012.04.28 16:27:00 -
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Katja Faith wrote:Helicity Boson wrote:Tina Mori wrote:oh just shutup, you silly cow....
Your Hulkageddon is very poorly timed, with the droneloot and meta0 mission loot nerf
(I bet you PvPers will be the first to whine about lack of supplies, you dug your own hole...) You sound mad? This hulkageddon is /expertly/ timed you see~ Give it up already. Nobody cares anymore. The days of HG ended with the Tier 3 ships.
I'll wager all my isk that more people care about this than they care about you~ |
Ka Jolo
The Tuskers
17
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Posted - 2012.04.28 18:16:00 -
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I hear all this talk about ganking miners because it's "fun," or because people somehow find PVP "more exciting" than industry, or merely because they're "bored." I'm just not feeling it.
The truth is, miners harm the environment. Nature put asteroid belts out there in all their beauty and majesty, and miners just come waltzing in like they own the asteroids, like miners are somehow a more meaningful part of nature than asteroids. They then activate their mining lasers, increasing light pollution in black black space (not to mention galactic warming), and take the "ore" (that makes it sound so industrial--note they never call it "disintegrated natural asteroid") to their factories where more smoke belches and more chemicals wash down the drain and out come more orcas, retrievers, hulks, and the like.
There are plenty of man-made vessels out there from which to build whatever society needs. In the Tuskers, we not only fight the desecration of our asteroid belts, but we harvest scrap, supplies, even modules in perfect working condition, and from that we supply our needs.
Pirates don't kill asteroids, miners do. |
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