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Reven Cordelle
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.01.16 11:22:00 -
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This chap has refused to drive his bus because of a sign. His apparent reaction was "Shock Horror".
If it was Goatse, then yes. SHOCK HORROR would be what drifts into ones mind - but a few words that publicly state a doubt of existance to something that still has not been solidly proven to exist... makes me think this dude just wanted a day off.
It seems a bit odd to put this on a bus anyway. This is in the UK actually.. maybe it's not.
Still - How long until we see banners on the sides of busses not unlike those seen in "Children of Men"?
"CONSUME" "BUY" "PROCREATE" "HAIL BRITANNIA" (That one is very unlikely.. as much as I'd love England to be like it's loose portrayal in Code Geass.. it unfortunately will never be.) "WE ARE WATCHING. ALWAYS." (That one will come across when the government finally admits that the tiny little cameras in the front of most mobiles are indeed recording your every action... *tinfoilhat*)
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N.
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Posted - 2009.01.16 11:26:00 -
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Fortunately there are plenty of people looking for work at the moment, so this moop can be swiftly sacked for gross misconduct, given a weeks pay, and told to **** off. |

Myrhial Arkenath
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2009.01.16 11:29:00 -
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"Probably"
He should be a good Christian and try to convince people that the sign is wrong and drive his damn bus just to show he doesn't care  |

jason hill
Caldari Clan Shadow Wolf Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.16 11:34:00 -
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typical religous nut job it appears he doesnt allow other peoples opinion other than his own |

Camilo Cienfuegos
Earned In Blood
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Posted - 2009.01.16 11:37:00 -
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Cheeky bugger was looking for a day off. I bet he's never even stepped foot in a church in his life! |

Stitcher
Caldari legion of qui Southern Connection
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Posted - 2009.01.16 11:38:00 -
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Edited by: Stitcher on 16/01/2009 11:39:21 the no god signs were the result of a bunch of atheists getting sick and tired of seeing buses driving past with scripture on the side, and decided to save up and buy five or six hundred with an "alternative point of view".
Fairly public exercise of free speech, in other words. It's a bit of a stretch from there to tinfoilhattery. |

TimMc
Gallente Brutal Deliverance OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.16 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: jason hill typical religous nut job it appears he doesnt allow other peoples opinion other than his own
typical atheist nut job. it appears he doesn't allow other peoples opinion other than his own
lol jokes... tbh the bus driver should have drive the damn bus but been wearing loads of pro-christian stuff if he wanted to make an effective statement. |

JoeT
Amarr Short Attention Span
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Posted - 2009.01.16 11:41:00 -
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Edited by: JoeT on 16/01/2009 11:42:23 its just a **** wanting a day off. :l though if churches and the sort can cram it on a bus, why can't we do the same :) Hell, maybe i'll go rent some ad space in the local newspaper and put the same thing. |

Rondo Gunn
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2009.01.16 11:42:00 -
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Honestly, you don't hear about atheist bus drivers giving the shock horror reaction to the faith based ads that plaster the ones I see driving around.
*sigh*
Of course I could be wrong...hmm...(too google...awaaaay) |

Irida Mershkov
Gallente Noir.
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Posted - 2009.01.16 11:42:00 -
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Edited by: Irida Mershkov on 16/01/2009 11:45:07
Originally by: Camilo Cienfuegos Cheeky bugger was looking for a day off. I bet he's never even stepped foot in a church in his life!
Gonna be saying this, this is why religion is ******ed. They get offended if someone has a different idea, jeez. Although this guy seems to have his head screwed on, so fair enough for him to be honest. |
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Marisal
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Posted - 2009.01.16 11:43:00 -
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Drivers allowed to expresses his opinion as much as the signs on the side of the bus if he doesn't want to be associated or an instrument to spread those beliefs that's completely within his rights under freedom of worship laws.
He won't get sacked because there are no grounds to sack him on that wouldn't lead to the company been held up on a variety of legal charges.
He's not a religious nut job as he's not stopping the expression of the opinion he just doesn't want to be associated with it.
So read the entire article first and remember "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence"
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Alex Raptos
Caldari The Firestorm Millennium
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Posted - 2009.01.16 12:05:00 -
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Put it this way; If it was a Christian Advertisement and an Atheist Bus Driver, he would have probably just got on with his day.
Christianity is possibly the most advertised religion in many countries, but you dont see people complaining that instead of sitting through "Jesus Loves You" on Channel 5 at midday we could be watching whatever else could have been aired.
Hell i dont know how many adverts there are on the TV about christian charities and all that fluff.
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.01.16 12:10:00 -
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omg jesus christ (see what i did there?) how stupid can you be
Your cap ship deserves CPR's! |

Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.01.16 12:13:00 -
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Originally by: TimMc
Originally by: jason hill typical religous nut job it appears he doesnt allow other peoples opinion other than his own
typical atheist nut job. it appears he doesn't allow other peoples opinion other than his own
Wow, the irony lays so thick here I can't see the floor no more!
Your cap ship deserves CPR's! |

Sniper Wolf18
Gallente A Pretty Pony Princess
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Posted - 2009.01.16 12:48:00 -
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PFFFFT bus driver should be sacked
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F'nog
Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Celestial Industrial Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.16 13:20:00 -
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I'm truly worried about today's so-called "Christians" when they can be offended by such a display. I'm reminded of the "God warrior" exhibition many of you know about, the woman who was deeply disturbed by "dark-sided" paraphernalia.
Here's a hint: if you doubt your religious views because you see an ankh, you've got a lot think about.
I'm not going to bash religious folks as some others would, but you've got to be honest with yourselves that if you're confronted with something that doesn't conform to what you believe is your religion, and you're scared nearly bat-**** crazy, then how much do you really believe in your faith?
If you truly believe, then these sorts of messages shouldn't bother you. You'll just think something like, "Idiots", to be polite, and move on. That really speaks to your devotion.
Just what would these people do if they were confronted with an actual representative of pure EVIL? Would they cower in fear and freak out, or would they stand firm in their faith and face down this evil? I doubt many could.
I consider myself a man of faith, because I have faith in believing in faith, even if I don't ascribe to any Christian understanding of faith, so it really disgusts me when people who profess to be "believers" can't face something that questions their own faith. If they had truly read and comprehended the New Testament, then they would understand that dealing with challenges to their faith is a good thing.
It's sad, really. |

Slade Trillgon
Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.01.16 13:37:00 -
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Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 16/01/2009 13:38:30
Originally by: Sokratesz
Originally by: TimMc
Originally by: jason hill typical religous nut job it appears he doesnt allow other peoples opinion other than his own
typical atheist nut job. it appears he doesn't allow other peoples opinion other than his own
Wow, the irony lays so thick here I can't see the floor no more!
Since I was not going to post, to keep from derailing, I will say I agree with Socratesz here.
Slade
Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
Please go sit in the corner, and dont forget to don the shame-on-you-hat!
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TimMc
Gallente Brutal Deliverance OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.16 13:57:00 -
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lol shesh I was joking 
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Slade Trillgon
Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.01.16 14:48:00 -
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Originally by: TimMc lol shesh I was joking 
My bad 
Originally by: Marisal
He won't get sacked because there are no grounds to sack him on that wouldn't lead to the company been held up on a variety of legal charges.
Where I come from refusing to do your job is grounds for being fired. His life was not being endangered so there is no reason that he should not have done his job.
Slade
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Vabjekf
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Posted - 2009.01.16 15:01:00 -
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Double standards, if the sign said "there probably is a god, and you are going to hell!" then everyone would be all 'zomg thats unfair religious forcings on me!!1 halp!", but the equivalent of their side is just 'an opinion'
I would love to drive a goatse bus around town ^___^ that would be keen. But anti-religion ****es me off with its smug fanaticism. |
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ceaon
Gallente Porandor
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Posted - 2009.01.16 15:03:00 -
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i hope that dude get kicked from the bus company, that's a really cheap excuse
if you dont work gtfo and put a Romanian driver |

Qui Shon
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Posted - 2009.01.16 15:12:00 -
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Edited by: Qui Shon on 16/01/2009 15:12:34
Originally by: Malcanis Fortunately there are plenty of people looking for work at the moment, so this moop can be swiftly sacked for gross misconduct, given a weeks pay, and told to **** off.
Or just give him another bus/route, that way everybody wins. Company has a satisfied employee and employee has a company that cares for it's employees. ("What if every driver.../every time...?" That's unlikely to happen.)
No reason to promote corporate slavery or blind obedience, imo, it doesn't serve the interests of society in any way. |

Slade Trillgon
Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.01.16 15:14:00 -
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Originally by: Vabjekf But anti-religion ****es me off with its smug fanaticism.
Warning incoming derail....
Yeah I definately see all the anti-religious fanatics blowing **** up and killing people in the name of anti-religion 
I see the angle you are coming from, but your choice of words rubs me the wrong way. Smug I may give you, but fanaticism is a joke.
Slade
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Slade Trillgon
Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.01.16 15:21:00 -
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Originally by: Qui Shon Edited by: Qui Shon on 16/01/2009 15:12:34
Originally by: Malcanis Fortunately there are plenty of people looking for work at the moment, so this moop can be swiftly sacked for gross misconduct, given a weeks pay, and told to **** off.
Or just give him another bus/route, that way everybody wins. Company has a satisfied employee and employee has a company that cares for it's employees. ("What if every driver.../every time...?" That's unlikely to happen.)
No reason to promote corporate slavery or blind obedience, imo, it doesn't serve the interests of society in any way.
Well what about the driver that is trying to loose weight and get healthy? They may not want to drive a bus that advertises McDonalds.
What about the driver that hates lawyers and their predatory nature? They may not want to support the personal injury law firm the company decides to advertise.
What about the driver that lost their parent to a negligent doctor? They do not want to drive the bus that advertises said hospital.
What about the driver that is scared of dogs? They may not want to drive the bus that has a big dog in the advertisement.
Where is the line drawn? I doubt people attribute bus wall ramblings, rhetoric, and/or advertisments as the word of the driver. Therefor there was probably little reason other then self arrogance that kept him from walking onto the bus and doing his job.
He should have done his job and no consolation given. IMHO.
Slade
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Ombey
Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.01.16 15:39:00 -
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So if he saw an atheist TV advert, he would presumably hand the remote control to his wife/ kids and refuse to 'drive' the TV. 
Taxi for one. |

Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.01.16 15:47:00 -
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Originally by: Vabjekf Double standards, if the sign said "there probably is a god, and you are going to hell!" then everyone would be all 'zomg thats unfair religious forcings on me!!1 halp!", but the equivalent of their side is just 'an opinion'
I would love to drive a goatse bus around town ^___^ that would be keen. But anti-religion ****es me off with its smug fanaticism.
Erm. reality check. There *ARE* buses driving around with religious bull**** on them about sin and repent and hell. Now atheists bring in a much more reasonable and definitely much more sensible approach and suddenly it's wrong? |

MyOwnSling
Gallente Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.01.16 15:55:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz There *ARE* buses driving around with religious bull**** on them about sin and repent and hell.
Where do you live? I don't doubt what you are saying, it's just that I have never seen such a thing on any bus I have encountered and I'm a bit curious as to where this is occuring. ------------- Stop whining.
Originally by: Puupuu dude... your face...
Originally by: MooKids I have an elite rating in HULL TANKING! That is like saying I can block punches with my face.
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2009.01.16 15:58:00 -
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Edited by: Qui Shon on 16/01/2009 15:58:53
Originally by: Slade Trillgon
Originally by: Qui Shon Edited by: Qui Shon on 16/01/2009 15:12:34
Originally by: Malcanis Fortunately there are plenty of people looking for work at the moment, so this moop can be swiftly sacked for gross misconduct, given a weeks pay, and told to **** off.
Or just give him another bus/route, that way everybody wins. Company has a satisfied employee and employee has a company that cares for it's employees. ("What if every driver.../every time...?" That's unlikely to happen.)
No reason to promote corporate slavery or blind obedience, imo, it doesn't serve the interests of society in any way.
Well what about the driver that is trying to loose weight and get healthy? They may not want to drive a bus that advertises McDonalds.
What about the driver that hates lawyers and their predatory nature? They may not want to support the personal injury law firm the company decides to advertise.
What about the driver that lost their parent to a negligent doctor? They do not want to drive the bus that advertises said hospital.
What about the driver that is scared of dogs? They may not want to drive the bus that has a big dog in the advertisement.
Where is the line drawn? I doubt people attribute bus wall ramblings, rhetoric, and/or advertisments as the word of the driver. Therefor there was probably little reason other then self arrogance that kept him from walking onto the bus and doing his job.
He should have done his job and no consolation given. IMHO.
Slade
I already addressed your question in the parenthesis of the post you quoted If you wanted to argue that point, you should have addressed it directly, all those examples are certainly not neccessary.
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Vabjekf
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Posted - 2009.01.16 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz
Originally by: Vabjekf Double standards, if the sign said "there probably is a god, and you are going to hell!" then everyone would be all 'zomg thats unfair religious forcings on me!!1 halp!", but the equivalent of their side is just 'an opinion'
I would love to drive a goatse bus around town ^___^ that would be keen. But anti-religion ****es me off with its smug fanaticism.
Erm. reality check. There *ARE* buses driving around with religious bull**** on them about sin and repent and hell. Now atheists bring in a much more reasonable and definitely much more sensible approach and suddenly it's wrong?
I have never seen a bus that said something like that on it. At most you may see an advertisement for some religious thing or another, but not a message 'to' people about what they should be thinking.
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Xrak
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2009.01.16 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: MyOwnSling
Originally by: Sokratesz There *ARE* buses driving around with religious bull**** on them about sin and repent and hell.
Where do you live? I don't doubt what you are saying, it's just that I have never seen such a thing on any bus I have encountered and I'm a bit curious as to where this is occuring.
The entire bus advert campaign was started because of a religious advert with a website address, and on the website it said that non-Christians would damned to spend eternity in hell.
In Manchester we have buses driving round advertising Jesus and King's Church.
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