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Makkar
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Posted - 2004.07.28 17:50:00 -
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Edited by: Makkar on 28/07/2004 17:53:18
 Originally by: Rodj Blake
I think you must have been reading a completely different thread to me.
Where have we allied with pirates?
What evidence do you have for your view that our honour is no more than a facade?
I'm not accusing PIE of allying with pirates, Rodj. Far from it. I know you guys have a staunch anti-pirate stance in empire space. What I'm delivering is perhaps a warning - Be careful not to get too drawn in. Oracle fell foul of that trap, and lost many fine members to soulless 0.0 corps before realising it's mistake.
Don't follow in our footsteps. If CA firing on neutrals in CA space on the reasoning that they could be enemy alts can be seen as piracy, then SA's firing on neutrals for the same reason can also be seen the same way. The fact that PIE has declared a corp pirates;
Originally by: Gaius Kador
PIE have declared this Soul Cartel a pirate organisation, and we've plenty of incidents to fall back on to validate our declaration.
...does not excuse or change anything if the corp is doing what they claim, and defending their home system.
Don't be blinded by SA spin.
Originally by: Gaius Kador
*tight lipped smile*
I've but one word left for you, Makkar.
Dumb.
And I've one for you, Gaius;
"Whitewash"
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Makkar
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Posted - 2004.07.28 17:50:00 -
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Edited by: Makkar on 28/07/2004 17:53:18
Originally by: Rodj Blake
I think you must have been reading a completely different thread to me.
Where have we allied with pirates?
What evidence do you have for your view that our honour is no more than a facade?
I'm not accusing PIE of allying with pirates, Rodj. Far from it. I know you guys have a staunch anti-pirate stance in empire space. What I'm delivering is perhaps a warning - Be careful not to get too drawn in. Oracle fell foul of that trap, and lost many fine members to soulless 0.0 corps before realising it's mistake.
Don't follow in our footsteps. If CA firing on neutrals in CA space on the reasoning that they could be enemy alts can be seen as piracy, then SA's firing on neutrals for the same reason can also be seen the same way. The fact that PIE has declared a corp pirates;
Originally by: Gaius Kador
PIE have declared this Soul Cartel a pirate organisation, and we've plenty of incidents to fall back on to validate our declaration.
...does not excuse or change anything if the corp is doing what they claim, and defending their home system.
Don't be blinded by SA spin.
Originally by: Gaius Kador
*tight lipped smile*
I've but one word left for you, Makkar.
Dumb.
And I've one for you, Gaius;
"Whitewash"
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Hardin
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Posted - 2004.07.28 17:59:00 -
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Edited by: Hardin on 28/07/2004 18:03:47
Makkar - you obviously do not know the area very well...
It is not 0.0
Gemodi - is a mere 4 jumps from Amarr prime, Mamet and Misaba just a few further...
EDIT: Also I do not see where we have defended our 'buddies' actions? If SA was pirating then I condemn it. I see no evidence from anyone other than a pirate that they have. PIE made its own decision regarding Soul Cartel several weeks ago - long before we even knew SA were engaged against the same pirates...
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Hardin
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Posted - 2004.07.28 17:59:00 -
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Edited by: Hardin on 28/07/2004 18:03:47
Makkar - you obviously do not know the area very well...
It is not 0.0
Gemodi - is a mere 4 jumps from Amarr prime, Mamet and Misaba just a few further...
EDIT: Also I do not see where we have defended our 'buddies' actions? If SA was pirating then I condemn it. I see no evidence from anyone other than a pirate that they have. PIE made its own decision regarding Soul Cartel several weeks ago - long before we even knew SA were engaged against the same pirates...
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Makkar
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Posted - 2004.07.28 19:21:00 -
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And here we see exactly what can happen to an otherwise perfectly normal person if they spend too long dealing with outer region alliances. 
Heed this sober warning, Hardin... Get out, before the l33t gets you, too. 
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Makkar
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Posted - 2004.07.28 19:21:00 -
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And here we see exactly what can happen to an otherwise perfectly normal person if they spend too long dealing with outer region alliances.
Heed this sober warning, Hardin... Get out, before the l33t gets you, too.
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MadGaz
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Posted - 2004.07.28 19:36:00 -
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Skrit has problems, please forgive him.
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MadGaz
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Posted - 2004.07.28 19:36:00 -
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Skrit has problems, please forgive him.
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MadGaz
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Posted - 2004.07.28 19:37:00 -
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hardin you still havent given me any evidence of your alt being shot at. Please give me his name otherwise retract your lies.
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MadGaz
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Posted - 2004.07.28 19:37:00 -
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hardin you still havent given me any evidence of your alt being shot at. Please give me his name otherwise retract your lies.
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Hardin
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Posted - 2004.07.28 19:47:00 -
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The person whose alt it is is not on. I will ask him when I see him!
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Hardin
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Posted - 2004.07.28 19:47:00 -
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The person whose alt it is is not on. I will ask him when I see him!
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Golan Trevize
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Posted - 2004.07.28 20:24:00 -
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Edited by: Golan Trevize on 28/07/2004 20:52:59
From:TES Overlord Apocalypse class.
Location:Amarr prime high orbit.
Commanding officer:ADM Trevize PIE-CEO/Fleetcommander.
***SHORT TRANSMISSION***
Makkar if we need your "advice" we will ask for it, i tire of your poisonous tongue trying to slaunder our name again and again.
Once i held Oracle in high regard , some i still do but you sir are a worthless coward dog, let your guns speak instead of this pencil pushing.
***LOOK OF CONTEMPT***
The Gallente ideals of Freedom, Liberty and Equality will be met by the Amarr realities of Lasers, Armor and Battleships. |
Golan Trevize
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Posted - 2004.07.28 20:24:00 -
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Edited by: Golan Trevize on 28/07/2004 20:52:59
From:TES Overlord Apocalypse class.
Location:Amarr prime high orbit.
Commanding officer:ADM Trevize PIE-CEO/Fleetcommander.
***SHORT TRANSMISSION***
Makkar if we need your "advice" we will ask for it, i tire of your poisonous tongue trying to slaunder our name again and again.
Once i held Oracle in high regard , some i still do but you sir are a worthless coward dog, let your guns speak instead of this pencil pushing.
***LOOK OF CONTEMPT***
The Gallente ideals of Freedom, Liberty and Equality will be met by the Amarr realities of Lasers, Armor and Battleships. |
mahhy
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Posted - 2004.07.28 20:31:00 -
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Originally by: Makkar
So you'll be engaging MASS if they set up another blockade down there, and start indiscriminately ganking?
Makkar, please feel free to come and observe MASS's actions in these systems for yourself. As long as you do not attack us, we will not attack you, as we are not at war with Oracle. I would personally be a little surprised if theres any "indisciminate ganking" going on 
Don't listen to what either side says, observe and judge for yourself.
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mahhy
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Posted - 2004.07.28 20:31:00 -
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Originally by: Makkar
So you'll be engaging MASS if they set up another blockade down there, and start indiscriminately ganking?
Makkar, please feel free to come and observe MASS's actions in these systems for yourself. As long as you do not attack us, we will not attack you, as we are not at war with Oracle. I would personally be a little surprised if theres any "indisciminate ganking" going on
Don't listen to what either side says, observe and judge for yourself.
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CyberRaver
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Posted - 2004.07.28 21:53:00 -
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I was the suicidal rifter pilot, i dodnt care ship is peanuts to replace to rid the universe of scum 
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CyberRaver
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Posted - 2004.07.28 21:53:00 -
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I was the suicidal rifter pilot, i dodnt care ship is peanuts to replace to rid the universe of scum
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Makkar
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Posted - 2004.07.28 22:46:00 -
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The same could be said of my own views on PIE, Golan. Come to mention it, I'm not alone in thinking this. I don't know what's happened recently, I really don't.
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Makkar
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Posted - 2004.07.28 22:46:00 -
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The same could be said of my own views on PIE, Golan. Come to mention it, I'm not alone in thinking this. I don't know what's happened recently, I really don't.
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Mitchello
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Posted - 2004.07.29 02:53:00 -
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Edited by: Mitchello on 29/07/2004 02:56:54
PIE and the SA are the most notable anti-pirate factions in our universe. PIE has the admiration of many Caldari anti-pirate factions who have since modeled them selves after the amazingly successful PIE and their allies.
the SA has been destroying pirates since the beginning. these things can not be honestly challenged. those who seek to discredit these two factions obviously have their own agenda.
We all understand surprises, and indeed we are all pleasantly surprised by the SA's actions at pulling away from the CA war a bit and cleaning up space again. Perhaps this is due to the CA's aggressive stance on hunting the vile pirate factions plaguing the borders of caldari space. perhaps this is true, perhaps not. but no longer can we look to Celestial Apoc(who stands idle while pirates breed in vast numbers just outside of Caldari space) and Eve Marshals for this type of vigilantly justice, we instead must turn our eyes to PIE and the SA.
Well done, well done indeed.
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Mitchello
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Posted - 2004.07.29 02:53:00 -
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Edited by: Mitchello on 29/07/2004 02:56:54
PIE and the SA are the most notable anti-pirate factions in our universe. PIE has the admiration of many Caldari anti-pirate factions who have since modeled them selves after the amazingly successful PIE and their allies.
the SA has been destroying pirates since the beginning. these things can not be honestly challenged. those who seek to discredit these two factions obviously have their own agenda.
We all understand surprises, and indeed we are all pleasantly surprised by the SA's actions at pulling away from the CA war a bit and cleaning up space again. Perhaps this is due to the CA's aggressive stance on hunting the vile pirate factions plaguing the borders of caldari space. perhaps this is true, perhaps not. but no longer can we look to Celestial Apoc(who stands idle while pirates breed in vast numbers just outside of Caldari space) and Eve Marshals for this type of vigilantly justice, we instead must turn our eyes to PIE and the SA.
Well done, well done indeed.
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Arud
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Posted - 2004.07.29 09:20:00 -
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Anyone who are accusing MASS want to comment on what happened yesterday?
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Arud
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Posted - 2004.07.29 09:20:00 -
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Anyone who are accusing MASS want to comment on what happened yesterday?
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MadGaz
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Posted - 2004.07.29 10:45:00 -
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Yes
Legion lost 2 blackbirds yesterday, aswell as a Caracal, and 2 rifters I believe.
Mass lost an Apoc to sentry guns, after it attacked a traveller, I believe his name was Exodus.
One Soul Cartel member lost his battleship also.
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MadGaz
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Posted - 2004.07.29 10:45:00 -
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Yes
Legion lost 2 blackbirds yesterday, aswell as a Caracal, and 2 rifters I believe.
Mass lost an Apoc to sentry guns, after it attacked a traveller, I believe his name was Exodus.
One Soul Cartel member lost his battleship also.
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Arud
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Posted - 2004.07.29 11:57:00 -
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well I do know that two ravens were taken out
and that apoc loss was because of a mistake by the pilot
but regardless, does your claim that MASS is pirating still hold grounds?
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Arud
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Posted - 2004.07.29 11:57:00 -
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well I do know that two ravens were taken out
and that apoc loss was because of a mistake by the pilot
but regardless, does your claim that MASS is pirating still hold grounds?
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MadGaz
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Posted - 2004.07.29 13:39:00 -
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SC lost 1 Raven, mainly because his controls jammed and he couldnt warp out until it was too late.
As for the pirates, how many ships have you lost to sentry guns?
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MadGaz
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Posted - 2004.07.29 13:39:00 -
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I dont really care if your committing pirate acts, its good fun anyway.
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