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Miso
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Posted - 2004.07.28 09:32:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert
I feel CCP have made 0.4 and under space more attractice but they'#ve made the mistake of now pushing the most dangerous criminals one step further away - 0.4 really isn't as risky as it should be.
Thats right on the money. why should miners have risk free access to decent ore in 0.4-0.1 sec systems? My ganking is now less than risk free in these systems due to these changs, where is the pay off? What do miners risk now? -------------------------------------------- Dead
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.07.28 09:32:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Joshua Calvert
I feel CCP have made 0.4 and under space more attractice but they'#ve made the mistake of now pushing the most dangerous criminals one step further away - 0.4 really isn't as risky as it should be.
Thats right on the money. why should miners have risk free access to decent ore in 0.4-0.1 sec systems? My ganking is now less than risk free in these systems due to these changs, where is the pay off? What do miners risk now? -------------------------------------------- Dead
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Alowishus
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Posted - 2004.07.28 09:33:00 -
[93]
You're paying $15 a month to be screwed over? Who's the stupid one? Hint: not CCP's marketing department, obviously.
Raven 4TW! Rank(1) SP: 243745/256000 |

Alowishus
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Posted - 2004.07.28 09:33:00 -
[94]
You're paying $15 a month to be screwed over? Who's the stupid one? Hint: not CCP's marketing department, obviously.
Raven 4TW! Rank(1) SP: 243745/256000 |

FoRGyL
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Posted - 2004.07.28 09:38:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Alowishus You're paying $15 a month to be screwed over? Who's the stupid one? Hint: not CCP's marketing department, obviously.
And u are saying? ********************************************************* Ohhhh iyayaayaya puff ohh iyaayaya puff puff PVR =Player vs Roid! Burr, scary peps!!! |

FoRGyL
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Posted - 2004.07.28 09:38:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Alowishus You're paying $15 a month to be screwed over? Who's the stupid one? Hint: not CCP's marketing department, obviously.
And u are saying? ********************************************************* Ohhhh iyayaayaya puff ohh iyaayaya puff puff PVR =Player vs Roid! Burr, scary peps!!! |

CaptMorgan
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Posted - 2004.07.28 09:45:00 -
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Everyone who posted in this thread complaining is a carebare.
Bunch of whining babies. You are the people that get stupid arse ideas into this game, because you friggin b***** too much and get your way with the devs.
Deal with the sentry guns. Go to 0.0 space, theres fatter miners there like us and theres more money to be made by all. Besides the miners in 0.0 wont complain about being ganked be cause they just mined 2 BSs worth of ore.
Dont even reply to this post, ill never check this thread again.
Rum.com
Hadean Drive Yards Your Civilian Auto Cannon perfectly strikes Sansha's Servant Ship, wrecking for 987,547,415.3 damage. |

CaptMorgan
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Posted - 2004.07.28 09:45:00 -
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Everyone who posted in this thread complaining is a carebare.
Bunch of whining babies. You are the people that get stupid arse ideas into this game, because you friggin b***** too much and get your way with the devs.
Deal with the sentry guns. Go to 0.0 space, theres fatter miners there like us and theres more money to be made by all. Besides the miners in 0.0 wont complain about being ganked be cause they just mined 2 BSs worth of ore.
Dont even reply to this post, ill never check this thread again.
Rum.com
Hadean Drive Yards Your Civilian Auto Cannon perfectly strikes Sansha's Servant Ship, wrecking for 987,547,415.3 damage. |

Alowishus
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Posted - 2004.07.28 09:46:00 -
[99]
Originally by: FoRGyL
Originally by: Alowishus You're paying $15 a month to be screwed over? Who's the stupid one? Hint: not CCP's marketing department, obviously.
And u are saying?
I am saying that if you feel you're getting screwed over then you are a moron if you continue to pay $15 a month for it.
Raven 4TW! Rank(1) SP: 243745/256000 |

Alowishus
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Posted - 2004.07.28 09:46:00 -
[100]
Originally by: FoRGyL
Originally by: Alowishus You're paying $15 a month to be screwed over? Who's the stupid one? Hint: not CCP's marketing department, obviously.
And u are saying?
I am saying that if you feel you're getting screwed over then you are a moron if you continue to pay $15 a month for it.
Raven 4TW! Rank(1) SP: 243745/256000 |

Fuse
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Posted - 2004.07.28 10:02:00 -
[101]
For all the noise pirates make they are in the minority. Piracy is a crappy profession you chose it now live with it. S#itholes have a hard life get use to it. This does not mean I am for or against pirates it is just how life is when you choose that path.
Ninety percent of the pirates are not successful not in the long run. For all your ranting you are still bound by the rules of the LAW. In reality you are a joke you may kill some Carebears but they still own you. You don't like the lack of control and your hatred fuels your fire.  0.o It's not you... no wait it is you. |

Fuse
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Posted - 2004.07.28 10:02:00 -
[102]
For all the noise pirates make they are in the minority. Piracy is a crappy profession you chose it now live with it. S#itholes have a hard life get use to it. This does not mean I am for or against pirates it is just how life is when you choose that path.
Ninety percent of the pirates are not successful not in the long run. For all your ranting you are still bound by the rules of the LAW. In reality you are a joke you may kill some Carebears but they still own you. You don't like the lack of control and your hatred fuels your fire.  0.o It's not you... no wait it is you. |

cashman
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Posted - 2004.07.28 10:18:00 -
[103]
Face it, some people don't want to PVP. Some are fine with just not losing what they have worked hard for to some other player. Tbh, I can understand them too.
But another thing could be that hardly any "pirates" give people a chance to pay to let them go with their stuff intact. And no, "Gimme 70mill/eject from bs or die!!1" doesn't count. If more "pirates" would grief less, maybe people wouldn't mind mining in 0.4 -> 0.1.
I've lost my ships lots of times, never have I had a demand for a ransom or been given a chance to do anything else than sit and watch my ship go into flames. Less griefing, more pirating...then you'll maybe see more people in low sec.
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cashman
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Posted - 2004.07.28 10:18:00 -
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Face it, some people don't want to PVP. Some are fine with just not losing what they have worked hard for to some other player. Tbh, I can understand them too.
But another thing could be that hardly any "pirates" give people a chance to pay to let them go with their stuff intact. And no, "Gimme 70mill/eject from bs or die!!1" doesn't count. If more "pirates" would grief less, maybe people wouldn't mind mining in 0.4 -> 0.1.
I've lost my ships lots of times, never have I had a demand for a ransom or been given a chance to do anything else than sit and watch my ship go into flames. Less griefing, more pirating...then you'll maybe see more people in low sec.
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Valentine Keen
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Posted - 2004.07.28 10:24:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Miso
Originally by: Joshua Calvert
I feel CCP have made 0.4 and under space more attractice but they'#ve made the mistake of now pushing the most dangerous criminals one step further away - 0.4 really isn't as risky as it should be.
Thats right on the money. why should miners have risk free access to decent ore in 0.4-0.1 sec systems? My ganking is now less than risk free in these systems due to these changs, where is the pay off? What do miners risk now?
I've run the numbers. Factoring the cost of defence or the risk of losing haulers and stuff, the ore in 0.4 and below is pitiful.
For an empire miner, the most profitable thing to do is sit in 0.7, launch a couple of drones and suck scordite all day.
Hemorphite and Hedbergite and whatever small mid ores you can find, are, for the majority, worth at best only a few hundred thousand isk more per hour. Hardly worth jumping out from Concord's protection for.
The jump between empire and 0.0 mining is staggering, the difference between 1.0 and 0.1, barely noticable.
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Valentine Keen
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Posted - 2004.07.28 10:24:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Miso
Originally by: Joshua Calvert
I feel CCP have made 0.4 and under space more attractice but they'#ve made the mistake of now pushing the most dangerous criminals one step further away - 0.4 really isn't as risky as it should be.
Thats right on the money. why should miners have risk free access to decent ore in 0.4-0.1 sec systems? My ganking is now less than risk free in these systems due to these changs, where is the pay off? What do miners risk now?
I've run the numbers. Factoring the cost of defence or the risk of losing haulers and stuff, the ore in 0.4 and below is pitiful.
For an empire miner, the most profitable thing to do is sit in 0.7, launch a couple of drones and suck scordite all day.
Hemorphite and Hedbergite and whatever small mid ores you can find, are, for the majority, worth at best only a few hundred thousand isk more per hour. Hardly worth jumping out from Concord's protection for.
The jump between empire and 0.0 mining is staggering, the difference between 1.0 and 0.1, barely noticable.
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Teutobod
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Posted - 2004.07.28 10:31:00 -
[107]
If 0.4 -> 0.1 has hedg and hemor they are better than the 0.0 systems I looked at last night. I was setting up for NPC hunting and choose a ground. So I was ofc doing the BM I need etc.
In my system there was naught but Jaspet. So I had a look in system going back and never saw a singel roid above Jaspet.
This is 0.0 systems, no belt, and I scanned quite a few, had anything above Jaspet. Now even small huskes indicating they are regrowing or have been mined heavily.
I am not saying all 0.0 is FUBAR, but, that place must have been. Jaspet? Not even wort the effort to mine and haul to a station.
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Teutobod
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Posted - 2004.07.28 10:31:00 -
[108]
If 0.4 -> 0.1 has hedg and hemor they are better than the 0.0 systems I looked at last night. I was setting up for NPC hunting and choose a ground. So I was ofc doing the BM I need etc.
In my system there was naught but Jaspet. So I had a look in system going back and never saw a singel roid above Jaspet.
This is 0.0 systems, no belt, and I scanned quite a few, had anything above Jaspet. Now even small huskes indicating they are regrowing or have been mined heavily.
I am not saying all 0.0 is FUBAR, but, that place must have been. Jaspet? Not even wort the effort to mine and haul to a station.
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Def Antares
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Posted - 2004.07.28 11:07:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Lester Mako B) Eve is not a PVP game ...
? why can i target and shoot another player's ship then? ? why are all the module changes whe expirience (painfully) recently geared towards pvp balance then ?
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Def Antares
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Posted - 2004.07.28 11:07:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Lester Mako B) Eve is not a PVP game ...
? why can i target and shoot another player's ship then? ? why are all the module changes whe expirience (painfully) recently geared towards pvp balance then ?
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Dentali
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Posted - 2004.07.28 11:17:00 -
[111]
Edited by: Dentali on 28/07/2004 11:18:33 I wonder if CCP or ISD has even cared to touch this thread...seeing as there are 3 others like it...
I bet not. I dont think they care to be honest.
As long as they are paid and fat and happy, it doesnt matter what the players think. So is said. |

Dentali
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Posted - 2004.07.28 11:17:00 -
[112]
Edited by: Dentali on 28/07/2004 11:18:33 I wonder if CCP or ISD has even cared to touch this thread...seeing as there are 3 others like it...
I bet not. I dont think they care to be honest.
As long as they are paid and fat and happy, it doesnt matter what the players think. So is said. |

C4w3
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Posted - 2004.07.28 12:09:00 -
[113]
The ideas about pirating and PVP in EVE-Online.
Since the retail and even befor that, iw had the same friends ingame, burning hoping and loving the game, Seen the oppertunities in the game, been members or are members of the best PVP oriented Corps in EVE. trying to adapt towards the changes ccp made to the game reforming into a Corp with alot of skilled PVP players ... nerf after nerf getting our hopes up, and then ruined the day after, i do not talk about ganking im talking about PVP and pirating, (I think we all can agree on a game without pvp would be a dead game?) Fleet battles are just LAAAG fests FACT. to me it seems like when we (Pirates/PVP players) do kill a ship infront high sec guns it¦s beeing nerfed to hell, getting upgraded fiering everywhere and so on, Se my previous post on log on log off tactis beeing ok to carebears but beeing a exploit when piretes does it......... and yes GM i still have the mail!!!! So why this post? well ill keep playing the game even tho you keep nerfing ill adapt and ill find other ways to shoot ships dead .. i will think of even more crazy ways of killing shipsin 0,1-0,4 space and hopefully ill outsmart you still, cus to me you cant outsmart the MASTER (IRONI) i hope that some day you will realize that pvp and pirating is good for the game.
While making this post iw been drinking MASSIVE amounts of Absint.
 
And joshua Calvert yes you are a PIRATe you just dont realize it.
CCP ---> Gimmie your best shoot, nerf on ill still shoot your carebear Corps DEAD and release my hoards of brave men upon you!! at the end of the day it¦s me sitting in my hangar having some beer with Xirt Foyle and the Corp 1 dudes laughing at the new orders passed out to corp 1 pilot that notting except nudity is allowed in EVA suites.
FREE The Banned ONE!!!!!
 
"If all the heroes are standing together around a strange device and begin to taunt me, I will pull out a conventional one. |

C4w3
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Posted - 2004.07.28 12:09:00 -
[114]
The ideas about pirating and PVP in EVE-Online.
Since the retail and even befor that, iw had the same friends ingame, burning hoping and loving the game, Seen the oppertunities in the game, been members or are members of the best PVP oriented Corps in EVE. trying to adapt towards the changes ccp made to the game reforming into a Corp with alot of skilled PVP players ... nerf after nerf getting our hopes up, and then ruined the day after, i do not talk about ganking im talking about PVP and pirating, (I think we all can agree on a game without pvp would be a dead game?) Fleet battles are just LAAAG fests FACT. to me it seems like when we (Pirates/PVP players) do kill a ship infront high sec guns it¦s beeing nerfed to hell, getting upgraded fiering everywhere and so on, Se my previous post on log on log off tactis beeing ok to carebears but beeing a exploit when piretes does it......... and yes GM i still have the mail!!!! So why this post? well ill keep playing the game even tho you keep nerfing ill adapt and ill find other ways to shoot ships dead .. i will think of even more crazy ways of killing shipsin 0,1-0,4 space and hopefully ill outsmart you still, cus to me you cant outsmart the MASTER (IRONI) i hope that some day you will realize that pvp and pirating is good for the game.
While making this post iw been drinking MASSIVE amounts of Absint.
 
And joshua Calvert yes you are a PIRATe you just dont realize it.
CCP ---> Gimmie your best shoot, nerf on ill still shoot your carebear Corps DEAD and release my hoards of brave men upon you!! at the end of the day it¦s me sitting in my hangar having some beer with Xirt Foyle and the Corp 1 dudes laughing at the new orders passed out to corp 1 pilot that notting except nudity is allowed in EVA suites.
FREE The Banned ONE!!!!!
 
"If all the heroes are standing together around a strange device and begin to taunt me, I will pull out a conventional one. |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.07.28 12:12:00 -
[115]
Quote: And joshua Calvert yes you are a PIRATe you just dont realize it.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.07.28 12:12:00 -
[116]
Quote: And joshua Calvert yes you are a PIRATe you just dont realize it.
yarr?
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.07.28 12:12:00 -
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Quote: And joshua Calvert yes you are a PIRATe you just dont realize it.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.07.28 12:12:00 -
[118]
Quote: And joshua Calvert yes you are a PIRATe you just dont realize it.
yarr?
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Sally
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Posted - 2004.07.28 12:16:00 -
[119]
Couldn't find a single valid point against my review.
Time to prepare the characters for transfer. -- Stories: #1 --
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Sally
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Posted - 2004.07.28 12:16:00 -
[120]
Couldn't find a single valid point against my review.
Time to prepare the characters for transfer. -- Stories: #1 --
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