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C4w3
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Posted - 2004.07.28 12:29:00 -
[121]
Thats the spirit Josh... Atleast you have adapted the sounds ;0)
"If all the heroes are standing together around a strange device and begin to taunt me, I will pull out a conventional one. |
C4w3
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Posted - 2004.07.28 12:29:00 -
[122]
Thats the spirit Josh... Atleast you have adapted the sounds ;0)
"If all the heroes are standing together around a strange device and begin to taunt me, I will pull out a conventional one. |
Cycler
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Posted - 2004.07.28 12:46:00 -
[123]
 Originally by: Sally
Couldn't find a single valid point against my review.
Time to prepare the characters for transfer.
If that's your conclusion then what was the reason of posting in the first place? That was the lamest counterargument I've ever seen.
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Cycler
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Posted - 2004.07.28 12:46:00 -
[124]
Originally by: Sally
Couldn't find a single valid point against my review.
Time to prepare the characters for transfer.
If that's your conclusion then what was the reason of posting in the first place? That was the lamest counterargument I've ever seen.
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No Good without Evil. No Love without Hate. No Innocence without Sin.
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Saelek
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Posted - 2004.07.28 12:47:00 -
[125]
To be honest i think that a timer makin u hostile is pretty fair tho it could do with bein only if u actually destroy a ship, somethin less harsh.. and get rid of some of the lower sec sentries like it used to be back in the day
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Saelek
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Posted - 2004.07.28 12:47:00 -
[126]
To be honest i think that a timer makin u hostile is pretty fair tho it could do with bein only if u actually destroy a ship, somethin less harsh.. and get rid of some of the lower sec sentries like it used to be back in the day
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Maud Dib
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Posted - 2004.07.28 13:02:00 -
[127]
The timer thing is retarded. Low sec is not nearly dangerous enough. Of course mineral wise it's not very rewarding for miners either.
Seriously CCP make low sec more rewarding to miners but more dangerous as well.
low sec= .4-.1 for those that don't know.
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Maud Dib
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Posted - 2004.07.28 13:02:00 -
[128]
The timer thing is retarded. Low sec is not nearly dangerous enough. Of course mineral wise it's not very rewarding for miners either.
Seriously CCP make low sec more rewarding to miners but more dangerous as well.
low sec= .4-.1 for those that don't know.
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Lusiphur
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Posted - 2004.07.28 14:29:00 -
[129]
Define 'pirating' please Sally.
Is 'pirating' ..
a) Holding ships for ransom and running the risk that one of those 'carebears' might have claws. However, in the end making the funds you need to continue your pirating without having to mine/mission run/npc hunt etc
b) Ganking all and sundry because you are an emotionally-retarded adolescent (usualluy running in a gang of similar low-watt bulbs) whose mommy didn't spank them enough
Because lets face it, a lot of people who hunt other players in low sec fall into category b and they wont go into 0.0 because there they might get a taste of their own medicine. Speaking as a carebear (for now) I WANT the thrill of situation a, I want a reason to pay attention to the screen when I am in low-sec. Situation b isnt that at all, if I am going to get ganked anyway well then all I need to do is be ready to get my egg out of harm's way.
Coming back to your point though Sally, yes, a 15 minute 'cool down' seems a harsh response from CCP. I would propose changing the 15 minute 'cool down' from ANY hostile action to actual ship destruction. Therefore those who wish to pirate in category a can still make money effectively and those who wish to pirate in category b will just have to grow up a little and wait a while between their ego-reinforcement sessions.
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Lusiphur
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Posted - 2004.07.28 14:29:00 -
[130]
Define 'pirating' please Sally.
Is 'pirating' ..
a) Holding ships for ransom and running the risk that one of those 'carebears' might have claws. However, in the end making the funds you need to continue your pirating without having to mine/mission run/npc hunt etc
b) Ganking all and sundry because you are an emotionally-retarded adolescent (usualluy running in a gang of similar low-watt bulbs) whose mommy didn't spank them enough
Because lets face it, a lot of people who hunt other players in low sec fall into category b and they wont go into 0.0 because there they might get a taste of their own medicine. Speaking as a carebear (for now) I WANT the thrill of situation a, I want a reason to pay attention to the screen when I am in low-sec. Situation b isnt that at all, if I am going to get ganked anyway well then all I need to do is be ready to get my egg out of harm's way.
Coming back to your point though Sally, yes, a 15 minute 'cool down' seems a harsh response from CCP. I would propose changing the 15 minute 'cool down' from ANY hostile action to actual ship destruction. Therefore those who wish to pirate in category a can still make money effectively and those who wish to pirate in category b will just have to grow up a little and wait a while between their ego-reinforcement sessions.
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Lustralis
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Posted - 2004.07.28 14:37:00 -
[131]
Originally by: Lusiphur
Define 'pirating' please Sally.
Is 'pirating' ..
a) Holding ships for ransom and running the risk that one of those 'carebears' might have claws. However, in the end making the funds you need to continue your pirating without having to mine/mission run/npc hunt etc
b) Ganking all and sundry because you are an emotionally-retarded adolescent (usualluy running in a gang of similar low-watt bulbs) whose mommy didn't spank them enough
Because lets face it, a lot of people who hunt other players in low sec fall into category b and they wont go into 0.0 because there they might get a taste of their own medicine. Speaking as a carebear (for now) I WANT the thrill of situation a, I want a reason to pay attention to the screen when I am in low-sec. Situation b isnt that at all, if I am going to get ganked anyway well then all I need to do is be ready to get my egg out of harm's way.
Coming back to your point though Sally, yes, a 15 minute 'cool down' seems a harsh response from CCP. I would propose changing the 15 minute 'cool down' from ANY hostile action to actual ship destruction. Therefore those who wish to pirate in category a can still make money effectively and those who wish to pirate in category b will just have to grow up a little and wait a while between their ego-reinforcement sessions.
Splendid thinking Lusiphur.
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Lustralis
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Posted - 2004.07.28 14:37:00 -
[132]
Originally by: Lusiphur
Define 'pirating' please Sally.
Is 'pirating' ..
a) Holding ships for ransom and running the risk that one of those 'carebears' might have claws. However, in the end making the funds you need to continue your pirating without having to mine/mission run/npc hunt etc
b) Ganking all and sundry because you are an emotionally-retarded adolescent (usualluy running in a gang of similar low-watt bulbs) whose mommy didn't spank them enough
Because lets face it, a lot of people who hunt other players in low sec fall into category b and they wont go into 0.0 because there they might get a taste of their own medicine. Speaking as a carebear (for now) I WANT the thrill of situation a, I want a reason to pay attention to the screen when I am in low-sec. Situation b isnt that at all, if I am going to get ganked anyway well then all I need to do is be ready to get my egg out of harm's way.
Coming back to your point though Sally, yes, a 15 minute 'cool down' seems a harsh response from CCP. I would propose changing the 15 minute 'cool down' from ANY hostile action to actual ship destruction. Therefore those who wish to pirate in category a can still make money effectively and those who wish to pirate in category b will just have to grow up a little and wait a while between their ego-reinforcement sessions.
Splendid thinking Lusiphur.
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An Imal
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Posted - 2004.07.28 14:41:00 -
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Quote:
Coming back to your point though Sally, yes, a 15 minute 'cool down' seems a harsh response from CCP. I would propose changing the 15 minute 'cool down' from ANY hostile action to actual ship destruction. Therefore those who wish to pirate in category a can still make money effectively and those who wish to pirate in category b will just have to grow up a little and wait a while between their ego-reinforcement sessions.
That is a good comprimize. It would feel a lot better to wait 15 minutes after you actually killed a ship then having to wait all the time when your pray actually got away.
I was out hunting the other night and had to suffer 6 "cool downs" but only killed 2 ships. 6x15=90 minutes. That's a full movie lenght I had to sit there and watch the clock tick.
If you feel that pirates should be nerfed then there has to be another way then that.
A -5 sec stat pirate is already at a huge disadvantage and can be shot anywhere and if anyone tries to help him they get killed aswell. I personally feel that this is enough punishment but if the developers don't then I urge them to find a better solution then bore us to death.
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An Imal
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Posted - 2004.07.28 14:41:00 -
[134]
Quote:
Coming back to your point though Sally, yes, a 15 minute 'cool down' seems a harsh response from CCP. I would propose changing the 15 minute 'cool down' from ANY hostile action to actual ship destruction. Therefore those who wish to pirate in category a can still make money effectively and those who wish to pirate in category b will just have to grow up a little and wait a while between their ego-reinforcement sessions.
That is a good comprimize. It would feel a lot better to wait 15 minutes after you actually killed a ship then having to wait all the time when your pray actually got away.
I was out hunting the other night and had to suffer 6 "cool downs" but only killed 2 ships. 6x15=90 minutes. That's a full movie lenght I had to sit there and watch the clock tick.
If you feel that pirates should be nerfed then there has to be another way then that.
A -5 sec stat pirate is already at a huge disadvantage and can be shot anywhere and if anyone tries to help him they get killed aswell. I personally feel that this is enough punishment but if the developers don't then I urge them to find a better solution then bore us to death.
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FoRGyL
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Posted - 2004.07.28 14:46:00 -
[135]
Originally by: Lusiphur
Define 'pirating' please Sally.
Is 'pirating' ..
a) Holding ships for ransom and running the risk that one of those 'carebears' might have claws. However, in the end making the funds you need to continue your pirating without having to mine/mission run/npc hunt etc
b) Ganking all and sundry because you are an emotionally-retarded adolescent (usualluy running in a gang of similar low-watt bulbs) whose mommy didn't spank them enough
Because lets face it, a lot of people who hunt other players in low sec fall into category b and they wont go into 0.0 because there they might get a taste of their own medicine. Speaking as a carebear (for now) I WANT the thrill of situation a, I want a reason to pay attention to the screen when I am in low-sec. Situation b isnt that at all, if I am going to get ganked anyway well then all I need to do is be ready to get my egg out of harm's way.
Coming back to your point though Sally, yes, a 15 minute 'cool down' seems a harsh response from CCP. I would propose changing the 15 minute 'cool down' from ANY hostile action to actual ship destruction. Therefore those who wish to pirate in category a can still make money effectively and those who wish to pirate in category b will just have to grow up a little and wait a while between their ego-reinforcement sessions.
Sidenot: Why should you (miner) pay if my ship gets blown up if I shoot?
Se your point though!
-out-
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Ohhhh iyayaayaya puff ohh iyaayaya puff puff
PVR =Player vs Roid! Burr, scary peps!!! |
FoRGyL
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Posted - 2004.07.28 14:46:00 -
[136]
Originally by: Lusiphur
Define 'pirating' please Sally.
Is 'pirating' ..
a) Holding ships for ransom and running the risk that one of those 'carebears' might have claws. However, in the end making the funds you need to continue your pirating without having to mine/mission run/npc hunt etc
b) Ganking all and sundry because you are an emotionally-retarded adolescent (usualluy running in a gang of similar low-watt bulbs) whose mommy didn't spank them enough
Because lets face it, a lot of people who hunt other players in low sec fall into category b and they wont go into 0.0 because there they might get a taste of their own medicine. Speaking as a carebear (for now) I WANT the thrill of situation a, I want a reason to pay attention to the screen when I am in low-sec. Situation b isnt that at all, if I am going to get ganked anyway well then all I need to do is be ready to get my egg out of harm's way.
Coming back to your point though Sally, yes, a 15 minute 'cool down' seems a harsh response from CCP. I would propose changing the 15 minute 'cool down' from ANY hostile action to actual ship destruction. Therefore those who wish to pirate in category a can still make money effectively and those who wish to pirate in category b will just have to grow up a little and wait a while between their ego-reinforcement sessions.
Sidenot: Why should you (miner) pay if my ship gets blown up if I shoot?
Se your point though!
-out-
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Ohhhh iyayaayaya puff ohh iyaayaya puff puff
PVR =Player vs Roid! Burr, scary peps!!! |
An Imal
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Posted - 2004.07.28 14:54:00 -
[137]
Originally by: FoRGyL
Originally by: Lusiphur
Define 'pirating' please Sally.
Is 'pirating' ..
a) Holding ships for ransom and running the risk that one of those 'carebears' might have claws. However, in the end making the funds you need to continue your pirating without having to mine/mission run/npc hunt etc
b) Ganking all and sundry because you are an emotionally-retarded adolescent (usualluy running in a gang of similar low-watt bulbs) whose mommy didn't spank them enough
Because lets face it, a lot of people who hunt other players in low sec fall into category b and they wont go into 0.0 because there they might get a taste of their own medicine. Speaking as a carebear (for now) I WANT the thrill of situation a, I want a reason to pay attention to the screen when I am in low-sec. Situation b isnt that at all, if I am going to get ganked anyway well then all I need to do is be ready to get my egg out of harm's way.
Coming back to your point though Sally, yes, a 15 minute 'cool down' seems a harsh response from CCP. I would propose changing the 15 minute 'cool down' from ANY hostile action to actual ship destruction. Therefore those who wish to pirate in category a can still make money effectively and those who wish to pirate in category b will just have to grow up a little and wait a while between their ego-reinforcement sessions.
Sidenot: Why should you (miner) pay if my ship gets blown up if I shoot?
Se your point though!
-out-
You misunderstood this post. I almost did the same and had actually written a reply just like yours. Then I read the post again. What he means is not that your ship gets instantly blown up when you kill a miner. He means that sentry guns don't shoot you if you get flagged for a simple combat aggression but they do if you get flagged for killing a ship.
At least that's what I think he means. If he means what you think he means then it's a very stupid idea.
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An Imal
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Posted - 2004.07.28 14:54:00 -
[138]
Originally by: FoRGyL
Originally by: Lusiphur
Define 'pirating' please Sally.
Is 'pirating' ..
a) Holding ships for ransom and running the risk that one of those 'carebears' might have claws. However, in the end making the funds you need to continue your pirating without having to mine/mission run/npc hunt etc
b) Ganking all and sundry because you are an emotionally-retarded adolescent (usualluy running in a gang of similar low-watt bulbs) whose mommy didn't spank them enough
Because lets face it, a lot of people who hunt other players in low sec fall into category b and they wont go into 0.0 because there they might get a taste of their own medicine. Speaking as a carebear (for now) I WANT the thrill of situation a, I want a reason to pay attention to the screen when I am in low-sec. Situation b isnt that at all, if I am going to get ganked anyway well then all I need to do is be ready to get my egg out of harm's way.
Coming back to your point though Sally, yes, a 15 minute 'cool down' seems a harsh response from CCP. I would propose changing the 15 minute 'cool down' from ANY hostile action to actual ship destruction. Therefore those who wish to pirate in category a can still make money effectively and those who wish to pirate in category b will just have to grow up a little and wait a while between their ego-reinforcement sessions.
Sidenot: Why should you (miner) pay if my ship gets blown up if I shoot?
Se your point though!
-out-
You misunderstood this post. I almost did the same and had actually written a reply just like yours. Then I read the post again. What he means is not that your ship gets instantly blown up when you kill a miner. He means that sentry guns don't shoot you if you get flagged for a simple combat aggression but they do if you get flagged for killing a ship.
At least that's what I think he means. If he means what you think he means then it's a very stupid idea.
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Phony v2
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Posted - 2004.07.28 15:20:00 -
[139]
Edited by: Phony v2 on 28/07/2004 15:22:50
CCP needs to remove this system now. I've seen multiple posts in this thread from non-pirates that say this system needs to be removed. It's pretty bad CCP when both sides of the fence want the system removed. So please get with it and get it out of here. And as far as the one person saying this isn't a PVP game that just proves that listening to the whiney little carebears is not a good choice cause they obviously don't know anything about this game. Listening to the carebears is like listening to a four year old screaming for icecream. So lets just not listen to them anymore and let them mine their ore and make their ships. |
Phony v2
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Posted - 2004.07.28 15:20:00 -
[140]
Edited by: Phony v2 on 28/07/2004 15:22:50
CCP needs to remove this system now. I've seen multiple posts in this thread from non-pirates that say this system needs to be removed. It's pretty bad CCP when both sides of the fence want the system removed. So please get with it and get it out of here. And as far as the one person saying this isn't a PVP game that just proves that listening to the whiney little carebears is not a good choice cause they obviously don't know anything about this game. Listening to the carebears is like listening to a four year old screaming for icecream. So lets just not listen to them anymore and let them mine their ore and make their ships. |
Lusiphur
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Posted - 2004.07.28 15:46:00 -
[141]
Edited by: Lusiphur on 28/07/2004 15:47:22
Originally by: An Imal
You misunderstood this post. I almost did the same and had actually written a reply just like yours. Then I read the post again. What he means is not that your ship gets instantly blown up when you kill a miner. He means that sentry guns don't shoot you if you get flagged for a simple combat aggression but they do if you get flagged for killing a ship.
At least that's what I think he means. If he means what you think he means then it's a very stupid idea.
HELL NO !
I want to encourage both category a pirating and more risky 'carebearing' (if that isnt a contradiction in terms  ).
Some examples always help ..
1) Category a pirate warps in, locks and scrambles and demands a bounty. 'Carebear' pays up and goes on their way. No criminal flagging.
2) Category a pirate warps in, locks and scrambles and demands a bounty. 'Carebear' smacks in local and refuses to pay. Result = biomass and pirate is flagged for 15.
3) Category b pirate warps in and pods without any discussion. Result = biomass, some smack and pirate is flagged for 15.
This opens up some interesting mechanics as well. Pirates would have to be choosy about prey as someone who wont pay will either get away or get you criminal flagged, pirate has to decide whether that is worth it. 'Carebears' will be forced to pay attention once again as category a pirating will continue to be profitable and viable.
Encourage player interaction via positive reinforcements. Pirate feels good at holding a ship up and making some isk, 'carebear' gets an adrenaline rush to relieve the tedium of mining. Discourage negative consequence ie griefing someone.
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Lusiphur
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Posted - 2004.07.28 15:46:00 -
[142]
Edited by: Lusiphur on 28/07/2004 15:47:22
Originally by: An Imal
You misunderstood this post. I almost did the same and had actually written a reply just like yours. Then I read the post again. What he means is not that your ship gets instantly blown up when you kill a miner. He means that sentry guns don't shoot you if you get flagged for a simple combat aggression but they do if you get flagged for killing a ship.
At least that's what I think he means. If he means what you think he means then it's a very stupid idea.
HELL NO !
I want to encourage both category a pirating and more risky 'carebearing' (if that isnt a contradiction in terms ).
Some examples always help ..
1) Category a pirate warps in, locks and scrambles and demands a bounty. 'Carebear' pays up and goes on their way. No criminal flagging.
2) Category a pirate warps in, locks and scrambles and demands a bounty. 'Carebear' smacks in local and refuses to pay. Result = biomass and pirate is flagged for 15.
3) Category b pirate warps in and pods without any discussion. Result = biomass, some smack and pirate is flagged for 15.
This opens up some interesting mechanics as well. Pirates would have to be choosy about prey as someone who wont pay will either get away or get you criminal flagged, pirate has to decide whether that is worth it. 'Carebears' will be forced to pay attention once again as category a pirating will continue to be profitable and viable.
Encourage player interaction via positive reinforcements. Pirate feels good at holding a ship up and making some isk, 'carebear' gets an adrenaline rush to relieve the tedium of mining. Discourage negative consequence ie griefing someone.
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C4w3
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Posted - 2004.07.28 16:32:00 -
[143]
OH MY!
Carbears attacking me save me CCP!
"If all the heroes are standing together around a strange device and begin to taunt me, I will pull out a conventional one. |
C4w3
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Posted - 2004.07.28 16:32:00 -
[144]
OH MY!
Carbears attacking me save me CCP!
"If all the heroes are standing together around a strange device and begin to taunt me, I will pull out a conventional one. |
Riddari
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Posted - 2004.07.28 16:33:00 -
[145]
Originally by: Sally
Scenario after sentry gun change: Same as above, but with delay of 15 minutes (or is it 20 now?) for each target/solar system.
/me controls the Philharmonic orchestra as the violin section goes mad
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Riddari
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Posted - 2004.07.28 16:33:00 -
[146]
Originally by: Sally
Scenario after sentry gun change: Same as above, but with delay of 15 minutes (or is it 20 now?) for each target/solar system.
/me controls the Philharmonic orchestra as the violin section goes mad
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C4w3
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Posted - 2004.07.28 16:34:00 -
[147]
I know let¦s discuss the term pirate for the 100000000000000000 time.
C4w3 -- > < --
"If all the heroes are standing together around a strange device and begin to taunt me, I will pull out a conventional one. |
C4w3
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Posted - 2004.07.28 16:34:00 -
[148]
I know let¦s discuss the term pirate for the 100000000000000000 time.
C4w3 -- > < --
"If all the heroes are standing together around a strange device and begin to taunt me, I will pull out a conventional one. |
Koda
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Posted - 2004.07.28 17:31:00 -
[149]
[nostalgia]
Damn, I miss the good, old days when you could web and warp-scramble someone and ask for a friendly donation without all Hell breaking loose.
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Koda
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Posted - 2004.07.28 17:31:00 -
[150]
[nostalgia]
Damn, I miss the good, old days when you could web and warp-scramble someone and ask for a friendly donation without all Hell breaking loose.
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