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Isolo
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Posted - 2004.07.28 16:32:00 -
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Is this game like FFXI where your pretty much forced to group to advanced your character?
I am thinking about buying it, but if i have to play a certain way, then I guess this isnt my kind of game.
However, I love what I have seen thusfar. With my only 3 hours experienced and I havnt even scratched the surface. I like being overwhelmend and I love attention to detail. I just dont want to waste an invesment if I am going to either encounter the much used 'forced grouping' mentality that seems to plague many MMO's todate.
Also, please dont start the typical "why play MMO if you dont want to group". There is a lot to be gotton from other players being in the world, but doesnt mean you have to play ever hour with a team either.
Thanks for any feedback anyone can offer on this topic.
Isolo
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Isolo
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Posted - 2004.07.28 16:32:00 -
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Is this game like FFXI where your pretty much forced to group to advanced your character?
I am thinking about buying it, but if i have to play a certain way, then I guess this isnt my kind of game.
However, I love what I have seen thusfar. With my only 3 hours experienced and I havnt even scratched the surface. I like being overwhelmend and I love attention to detail. I just dont want to waste an invesment if I am going to either encounter the much used 'forced grouping' mentality that seems to plague many MMO's todate.
Also, please dont start the typical "why play MMO if you dont want to group". There is a lot to be gotton from other players being in the world, but doesnt mean you have to play ever hour with a team either.
Thanks for any feedback anyone can offer on this topic.
Isolo
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Riddari
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Posted - 2004.07.28 16:37:00 -
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You don't need to group (this is my first MMO) but of course you will probably "advance" faster that way.
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Riddari
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Posted - 2004.07.28 16:37:00 -
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You don't need to group (this is my first MMO) but of course you will probably "advance" faster that way.
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Saibin Gias
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Posted - 2004.07.28 16:39:00 -
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'leveling' your skills does not need grouping. however if youd like combat and finacial support(with out having to play 12 hrs a day) then yeah, joining a corp is a good thing.plus it almost always gives you someone to talk with
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Saibin Gias
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Posted - 2004.07.28 16:39:00 -
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'leveling' your skills does not need grouping. however if youd like combat and finacial support(with out having to play 12 hrs a day) then yeah, joining a corp is a good thing.plus it almost always gives you someone to talk with
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zincol
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Posted - 2004.07.28 16:47:00 -
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im guessing u didnt do 3 hours of mining?
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zincol
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Posted - 2004.07.28 16:47:00 -
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im guessing u didnt do 3 hours of mining?
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Isolo
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Posted - 2004.07.28 17:03:00 -
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Yes I did that, lots of mining. Just recently learned how to get missions too.
However, I didnt do any combat yet, dont even know where to go to take on something of my challeng, or level if you will.
I will join a corp of course, i just hope not to encounter areas or content to advanced that WILL ALWAYS be to tough for me becuase I happen to be alone.
thanks for the feedback all.
Isolo
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Isolo
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Posted - 2004.07.28 17:03:00 -
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Yes I did that, lots of mining. Just recently learned how to get missions too.
However, I didnt do any combat yet, dont even know where to go to take on something of my challeng, or level if you will.
I will join a corp of course, i just hope not to encounter areas or content to advanced that WILL ALWAYS be to tough for me becuase I happen to be alone.
thanks for the feedback all.
Isolo
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Fenris
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Posted - 2004.07.28 17:08:00 -
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In other mmo games you need to group to increase the amount of skill points you receive for kills, and to kill bigger things.
In EVE your skill points are based on time and not experience.You can level your skills as fast as someone in a large group.
Eve is more dependant on the amount of money you have. This can limit your skills as some of the skill packs are quite expensive to buy.
Making money while solo is slower, but if you prefer to play solo then you dont need as much money as a large corporation anyway.
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Fenris
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Posted - 2004.07.28 17:08:00 -
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In other mmo games you need to group to increase the amount of skill points you receive for kills, and to kill bigger things.
In EVE your skill points are based on time and not experience.You can level your skills as fast as someone in a large group.
Eve is more dependant on the amount of money you have. This can limit your skills as some of the skill packs are quite expensive to buy.
Making money while solo is slower, but if you prefer to play solo then you dont need as much money as a large corporation anyway.
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DeFood
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Posted - 2004.07.28 17:14:00 -
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Doing agent missions, solo mining etc. will get you adequate quantities of cash to operate a cruiser. If youre skilled enough I guess you could also ninja mine in 0.0 - I belive there is 0.0 space that is freelancer friendly - at least you can buy passes to go in and rat.
There are certain effiencies that are available to squads, but there is nothing that would prevent a solo player doing most things. Manufacture and Research are group efforts I think, as a freelancer you should get the cash to buy what you need.
The problem with EVE is simply that it does not encourage a lot of interaction with other players unless you are in a corp. The only time you spend any length of time with other players within comms distance is the #help channel, or in #local if youre mining.
Otherwise, pretty much every ship you pass is going to be a once off encoutner with someone you are unlikley to meet again.
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DeFood
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Posted - 2004.07.28 17:14:00 -
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Doing agent missions, solo mining etc. will get you adequate quantities of cash to operate a cruiser. If youre skilled enough I guess you could also ninja mine in 0.0 - I belive there is 0.0 space that is freelancer friendly - at least you can buy passes to go in and rat.
There are certain effiencies that are available to squads, but there is nothing that would prevent a solo player doing most things. Manufacture and Research are group efforts I think, as a freelancer you should get the cash to buy what you need.
The problem with EVE is simply that it does not encourage a lot of interaction with other players unless you are in a corp. The only time you spend any length of time with other players within comms distance is the #help channel, or in #local if youre mining.
Otherwise, pretty much every ship you pass is going to be a once off encoutner with someone you are unlikley to meet again.
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Lao Tzu
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Posted - 2004.07.28 17:14:00 -
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I will join a corp of course, i just hope not to encounter areas or content to advanced that WILL ALWAYS be to tough for me becuase I happen to be alone.
The problem is that if there is nothing that a solo player can't do, then everything is very easy for a group to do, there should always be challanges you can't face alone.
If you want to get into group fighting early I'd advise getting propulsion jamming skill, navigation skills, and stay off the implants  .
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Lao Tzu
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Posted - 2004.07.28 17:14:00 -
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I will join a corp of course, i just hope not to encounter areas or content to advanced that WILL ALWAYS be to tough for me becuase I happen to be alone.
The problem is that if there is nothing that a solo player can't do, then everything is very easy for a group to do, there should always be challanges you can't face alone.
If you want to get into group fighting early I'd advise getting propulsion jamming skill, navigation skills, and stay off the implants .
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Gavin Kineli
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Posted - 2004.07.28 17:16:00 -
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I would say that the actual gameplay doesn't require you to be in a group. But I would also say that you would need to be in a corp to get the full Eve Experience. There are things that you don't get out of the game when you play solo. But by all means, you can play solo, there's no reason why you couldn't.
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Gavin Kineli
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Posted - 2004.07.28 17:16:00 -
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I would say that the actual gameplay doesn't require you to be in a group. But I would also say that you would need to be in a corp to get the full Eve Experience. There are things that you don't get out of the game when you play solo. But by all means, you can play solo, there's no reason why you couldn't.
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Dallenn
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Posted - 2004.07.28 17:18:00 -
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Yes I guess it is a 'must' to group. Last night I talked to an Intaki gentleman, still in his starting corp after over 1 year. He had concluded it no longer made sense to be freelance (he had mastered battleships and industrials), so he was looking for a nice stable corporation.
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Dallenn
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Posted - 2004.07.28 17:18:00 -
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Yes I guess it is a 'must' to group. Last night I talked to an Intaki gentleman, still in his starting corp after over 1 year. He had concluded it no longer made sense to be freelance (he had mastered battleships and industrials), so he was looking for a nice stable corporation.
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Rizmordan Hillgotlieb
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Posted - 2004.07.28 17:35:00 -
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EVE online is unlike any other game as you do not have to play an obscene amount to "advance"... ever!
The only thing you pwrlvl is your finances and that's it. But there are plenty of ways to make ISK other than mining or agent missions.
Being in a Corp or teaming up with friends or other like minded individuals is more enjoyable and productive IMO than doing solo. But there are plenty of "individual" players in this game who have done quite well for themselves.
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Rizmordan Hillgotlieb
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Posted - 2004.07.28 17:35:00 -
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EVE online is unlike any other game as you do not have to play an obscene amount to "advance"... ever!
The only thing you pwrlvl is your finances and that's it. But there are plenty of ways to make ISK other than mining or agent missions.
Being in a Corp or teaming up with friends or other like minded individuals is more enjoyable and productive IMO than doing solo. But there are plenty of "individual" players in this game who have done quite well for themselves.
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Lustralis
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Posted - 2004.07.28 17:38:00 -
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Originally by: DeFood
...0.0 space that is freelancer friendly - at least you can buy passes to go in and rat.
Just out of interest, how much as the passes generally and where do you go to get one?
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Lustralis
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Posted - 2004.07.28 17:38:00 -
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Originally by: DeFood
...0.0 space that is freelancer friendly - at least you can buy passes to go in and rat.
Just out of interest, how much as the passes generally and where do you go to get one?
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Draysea
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Posted - 2004.07.28 18:55:00 -
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I've played pretty much since the game was released, and I have never joined a corp. I made my own corp so that I could declare war in case I needed to teach someone a lesson in Empire space. Otherwise, I find that this is the best game around! I've met some nice people who I'd be more than willing to help out should the need arise if they were in trouble or needed extra guns (and there was a reward or bounty involved), but personally, I don't want to dedicate myself to a group. This is not because I'm "anti-social". I just don't want to disappoint anyone by not being online at a given time. And I realize that there are freelancer corps around, but I really wanted to be apart of a corp where I was the CEO. So I made my own corp., manufacture my own ships, ammo, missiles, mine my own ore etc, etc....It takes a lot of time to be a "jack-of-all-trades", but there is a sense of accomplishment when I build an Apoc by myself. I also have close to 10M skill points.
What I am essentially getting at, and to address your initial post is that you do not have to "group" in this game to advance. While you're flying around, sit on the HELP channel and you can get some ideas about things you can do, and where you can find safe and friendly people. But I do agree with the others in this post, that it might be beneficial if you are looking to really accelerate through this game to join a corp. Otherwise, you're on your own, and make the best of it!
Have Fun!
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Draysea
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Posted - 2004.07.28 18:55:00 -
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I've played pretty much since the game was released, and I have never joined a corp. I made my own corp so that I could declare war in case I needed to teach someone a lesson in Empire space. Otherwise, I find that this is the best game around! I've met some nice people who I'd be more than willing to help out should the need arise if they were in trouble or needed extra guns (and there was a reward or bounty involved), but personally, I don't want to dedicate myself to a group. This is not because I'm "anti-social". I just don't want to disappoint anyone by not being online at a given time. And I realize that there are freelancer corps around, but I really wanted to be apart of a corp where I was the CEO. So I made my own corp., manufacture my own ships, ammo, missiles, mine my own ore etc, etc....It takes a lot of time to be a "jack-of-all-trades", but there is a sense of accomplishment when I build an Apoc by myself. I also have close to 10M skill points.
What I am essentially getting at, and to address your initial post is that you do not have to "group" in this game to advance. While you're flying around, sit on the HELP channel and you can get some ideas about things you can do, and where you can find safe and friendly people. But I do agree with the others in this post, that it might be beneficial if you are looking to really accelerate through this game to join a corp. Otherwise, you're on your own, and make the best of it!
Have Fun!
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Alexis Machine
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Posted - 2004.07.28 18:57:00 -
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I'm a solo player. Never really been much of a team player. I hate being in a "party" with a bunch of ****s I can't stand.
Anyway, You wont be forced into a group really. However, I'd recommend finding 2 or 3 people that you enjoy chatting with and such, and joining their corp. Or at least being able to call on their help if need be.
Eve can get pretty damned boring by yourself.
Of course, if you have any plans on tackling the big stuff (0.0 NPC hunting or large scale operations.. be it mining or combat)then you'll need some friends to help. You can't do everything by yourself. However the game can be enjoyable alone.
It takes longer, it's harder, and you'll find yourself chatting in the various channels so you don't go insane.. but it's still pretty fun. 
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Alexis Machine
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Posted - 2004.07.28 18:57:00 -
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I'm a solo player. Never really been much of a team player. I hate being in a "party" with a bunch of ****s I can't stand.
Anyway, You wont be forced into a group really. However, I'd recommend finding 2 or 3 people that you enjoy chatting with and such, and joining their corp. Or at least being able to call on their help if need be.
Eve can get pretty damned boring by yourself.
Of course, if you have any plans on tackling the big stuff (0.0 NPC hunting or large scale operations.. be it mining or combat)then you'll need some friends to help. You can't do everything by yourself. However the game can be enjoyable alone.
It takes longer, it's harder, and you'll find yourself chatting in the various channels so you don't go insane.. but it's still pretty fun.
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Dtai'kai'-dte sa-de nau'gkon dtain'aun bpi-de.
if you don't wake up, i'll have to stop kissing you. all that flailing has made you sleepy. you rest while i untie you. stay here until they find you. My hand made mannequin. i won't let them get you. they'll know you're mine by the fingerprints on your throat. isn't she lovely? isn't she wonderful? like the *****s that we are, swatting flies from the wounds we design. |
Ashelth
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Posted - 2004.07.28 19:41:00 -
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The biggest reason to join a corp in Eve is financial.
Most corps provide quantities of ammunition to members, limited amounts of equipment and depending on the corp (my corp is working on finishing our second batch of thoraxes for our recruits!).
To really be effective in industry, you need high refine skills, production skills and research skills to squeeze every last isk out of what you make. A corp can have different people specalize and allow for higher profit margins faster.
And if you want to venture where space isn't quite so safe, nothing like having a few highly trained and combat ready corp mates running security.
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Ashelth
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Posted - 2004.07.28 19:41:00 -
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The biggest reason to join a corp in Eve is financial.
Most corps provide quantities of ammunition to members, limited amounts of equipment and depending on the corp (my corp is working on finishing our second batch of thoraxes for our recruits!).
To really be effective in industry, you need high refine skills, production skills and research skills to squeeze every last isk out of what you make. A corp can have different people specalize and allow for higher profit margins faster.
And if you want to venture where space isn't quite so safe, nothing like having a few highly trained and combat ready corp mates running security.
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