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Royale WiCheese
Caldari
Fortuna inc.
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Posted - 2009.01.20 23:34:00 -
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I'm all for ganking high sec missioners, I mean, why not?
Just though i'd let you guys know, the corp: Passive Resistance do NOT honor ransoms, so if you are unlucky enough to get caught, I urge you not to pay.
Pirates? Nah... Scum
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Jonny 101
Endemic Aggression
Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.01.20 23:57:00 -
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In high sec all bets are off, ransom is just another word for extra pwn there.
Hope they get you again, scum. |
Velocity Prime
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2009.01.21 00:21:00 -
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If you would be so kind as to give the name of the system in which your are running missions, for a small fee I can make sure that these scoundrels cease all mission runner griefing activities there.
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Normin Bates
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Posted - 2009.01.21 00:37:00 -
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 Originally by: Jonny 101
In low sec all bets are off, ransom is just another word for extra pwn there.
Fixed that for you. |
Karrade Krise
Galatic P0RN Starz
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Posted - 2009.01.21 00:50:00 -
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Thanks for the heads up Royale. I'll make sure if I ever catch one of them I return the favor 
CCP Atlas - The Short Story - "With Quantum Rise, we kind of messed up the performance of the EVE client."
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WNKyle
Maximum Yarrage
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Posted - 2009.01.21 00:55:00 -
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Edited by: WNKyle on 21/01/2009 00:54:55
Originally by: Jonny 101
In eve all bets are off, ransom is just another word for extra pwn there.quote]
Fixed that for you.
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Sang Jin
Gallente
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2009.01.21 01:34:00 -
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Ransom??? |
Ignition SemperFi
Private Nuisance
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Posted - 2009.01.21 01:37:00 -
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Edited by: Ignition SemperFi on 21/01/2009 01:38:04
ransom in highsec.... where even if your name is plastered everywhere as not honoring ransoms.... they usually still pay.
thank you for proving darwin right
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People Say Im paranoid because I have a gun, I say I dont have to be paranoid because I have a gun.
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They already did introduce a counter to missiles, it's called Quantum Rise
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Einar Lightfingers
Army 0f Two
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Posted - 2009.01.21 01:38:00 -
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Sigh...
Fools be those who dishonor ransoms. And fools be those who think it's okay. Idiots like you make ransoming harder. 
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Once a BEE, always a BEE!
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Bizzaro0
La Coka Nostra
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Posted - 2009.01.21 01:45:00 -
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You know what they call a Quarter Pounder with cheese in France?
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Ignition SemperFi
Private Nuisance
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Posted - 2009.01.21 01:45:00 -
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the difference is in lowsec... the ppl care to find out bout the locals and yada yada see if the honor ransoms or not. Thats where its important to keep the reputation of honoring ransoms.
In highsec, usually its a 50/50 whether i have dishonored them in the past or not. Most of my targets have never seen me or heard about me. Yet they keep paying.
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People Say Im paranoid because I have a gun, I say I dont have to be paranoid because I have a gun.
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They already did introduce a counter to missiles, it's called Quantum Rise
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Normin Bates
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Posted - 2009.01.21 01:52:00 -
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What's funny is that pirates who have tried to ransom me actually get offended if I say "Why pay when I know you won't honor it?" |
Hallan Turrek
Caldari
The Bastards
The Bastards.
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Posted - 2009.01.21 03:02:00 -
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Originally by: Normin Bates
What's funny is that pirates who have tried to ransom me actually get offended if I say "Why pay when I know you won't honor it?"
You can either pay and live, or not pay and die. I've got a bad habit sometimes of just killing people and not even trying to ransom them. I profit pretty well off of modules and I get tired of the hassle involved in trying to ransom.
That said, if I offer a ransom, or you pay one without prompting, I'll honor it or return your money. Simple as that.
Good heads up on another group of idiots. It doesn't matter if it's high or low sec. It's not just reputation, though that is a big part of it. It's honor. |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2009.01.21 04:33:00 -
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Originally by: Normin Bates
What's funny is that pirates who have tried to ransom me actually get offended if I say "Why pay when I know you won't honor it?"
that is when I say suit yourself, and press f1-f8. I am just as happy having your frozen corpse, as when you do pay the ransom.
personally I just wouldn't pay the ransom out of spite, would be happy to go down swinging, or just self destructing. |
Nexus Kinnon
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2009.01.21 05:38:00 -
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Guys, just honour the ransoms, you wouldn't want someone to post your names on the forums would you???? |
Warrio
Southern Cross Incorporated
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Posted - 2009.01.21 06:00:00 -
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Internet honour is serious business. |
John Cogan
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Posted - 2009.01.21 06:45:00 -
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High sec, low sec, doesnt matter.
If I was ransomed and had the money to pay the asking price I would pay it without hesitation if I knew it was honoured. This is all part and parcel of the game, but with this sort of thing going I think it'll be easier to simply get popped and hope that the scumbag gets away with minimal modules.
There is such as a thing as honor among pirates and this class of person/corp is not one of them. |
Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2009.01.21 07:43:00 -
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If you don't pay the ransom demanded I will keep your pod scrambled until either local jumps or you log off. I don't care how long that takes. Current record is 25 minutes.
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Kanya Nague
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.21 08:10:00 -
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Originally by: Bizzaro0
You know what they call a Quarter Pounder with cheese in France?
They dont call it Quarter Pounder with cheese?
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H Lecter
Gallente
The Black Rabbits
The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2009.01.21 08:54:00 -
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Originally by: Kanya Nague
Originally by: Bizzaro0
You know what they call a Quarter Pounder with cheese in France?
They dont call it Quarter Pounder with cheese?
No - they call it Hamburger 'Royal'. And do you know why?
My opinion is purely personal and not related to my alliance |
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H Lecter
Gallente
The Black Rabbits
The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2009.01.21 09:02:00 -
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...and a word to the OP.
You should not shoot other players stealing your loot if you are not sure that you can kill them reliably.
PVE fittings die to PVP fittings. The guy visiting you in that mission deadspace will be pvp fitted.
My opinion is purely personal and not related to my alliance |
Kehmor
Caldari
Malevolent Emo Herders
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Posted - 2009.01.21 12:35:00 -
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Edited by: Kehmor on 21/01/2009 12:35:51
Scu.m of the eve universe:
High sec mission runners
Macroers
People who don't honour ransoms in low sec
In that order.
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Violence isn't the answer, it is the question.
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Lauren Sheaperd
Minmatar
Blood Money Bootcamp
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Posted - 2009.01.21 12:39:00 -
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Originally by: Dirk Magnum
If you don't pay the ransom demanded I will keep your pod scrambled until either local jumps or you log off. I don't care how long that takes. Current record is 25 minutes.
This.
Current Record: Two hours, Five Minutes. 
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Lord Windu
Echelon Holdings
Echelon.
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Posted - 2009.01.21 13:05:00 -
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Originally by: H Lecter
Originally by: Kanya Nague
Originally by: Bizzaro0
You know what they call a Quarter Pounder with cheese in France?
They dont call it Quarter Pounder with cheese?
No - they call it Hamburger 'Royal'. And do you know why?
Because of the metric system?
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MrWhitei God
Minmatar
EvE-Mobile Holding
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Posted - 2009.01.21 13:42:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Windu
Originally by: H Lecter
Originally by: Kanya Nague
Originally by: Bizzaro0
You know what they call a Quarter Pounder with cheese in France?
They dont call it Quarter Pounder with cheese?
No - they call it Hamburger 'Royal'. And do you know why?
Because of the metric system?
the metric system?
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adriaans
Amarr
Ankaa.
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Posted - 2009.01.21 14:01:00 -
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I HATE people who don't honour ransoms, it makes people stop paying ransoms 
i live in low sec only, and the amount of people who won't pay a ransom because xxx didn't before is quite a lot... I've been working for months now to build up a reputation that i (and my corp) honour ransoms, it has made a small difference so far btw! also, if i see people (or hear about) that don't honour ransoms in the space i roam, i'll do my best to kill them or at least make their life horrible
but yeah, other people not honouring ransoms is bad for buisness :( only about 10% actually pay and i have my ransom prices very low compared to all i've met (so its not my pricing).
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Originally by: UMEE
if ure another fotm re-roller, then dont pvp. you'll fail.
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Sol'Kanar
Minmatar
SRIUS BISNIS
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Posted - 2009.01.21 14:15:00 -
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Edited by: Sol''Kanar on 21/01/2009 14:17:17
lol, honor in hi-sec.
There have been countless discussions on why honouring hi-sec ransoms is pointless. However, since some of you lack the cognitive thought to figure this one out, I shall provide some easily-digested bullet points:
 In high-sec, the "mark" is in complete control of the situation. They decide if there is going to be an engagement. In low-sec, this is not the case.
In high-sec there is a glut of newer players. Many of these players will remain in hi-sec indefinitely or will end up quitting Eve before ever venturing to lo/no-sec.
Newer players often times feel compelled to fit really expensive things on their ships. The potential of a really expensive loss tends to make them very prone to paying handsom ransoms. If they actually do get let go, see bullet point one as to why they will likely never get ganked again.
hi-sec mission runners are usually lone-wolfs. They may be in a corp, but their greed dictates that they solo. They don't have friends and they don't read the forums (much less ever read C&P).
These are just some reasons off the top of my head. I think this should be enough for you silly honour-bound lo-sec piwates to understand why ransoms should not be honoured in hi-sec.
If you have any questions or comments, feel free to ask. I promise to help you over this apparent learning deficiency of yours.
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Eschiava Q
Minmatar
Blood Money Bootcamp
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Posted - 2009.01.21 14:40:00 -
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Sol,
It's not about what can be gotten away with, it's about honor.
But from your post it seems clear I'd be wasting my time trying to explain it further.
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Sol'Kanar
Minmatar
SRIUS BISNIS
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Posted - 2009.01.21 14:53:00 -
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Originally by: Eschiava Q
Sol,
It's not about what can be gotten away with, it's about honor.
But from your post it seems clear I'd be wasting my time trying to explain it further.
Fair enough! You feel honour-bound in Internet spaceships and I do not. I'm in it for profit. If circumstances were different and honouring ransoms in hi-sec paid better, I'd do that. But it's not, so I won't.
What makes me chuckle are the lo-sec pirates that **** and moan about how I'm doing it wrong and ruining their future business. Frankly, I don't give a **** about their preferred play style. If you can't adapt to a dynamic game, then die off already. You suck for not learning new tricks. |
RenegadeRacer
Private Nuisance
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Posted - 2009.01.21 15:32:00 -
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people who dishonor ransoms are a myth.
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