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Goumindong
Amarr
Merch Industrial
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.01.29 06:21:00 -
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Alright, so let me get this straight.
You're saying that a carrier of yours got tackled, and you had to go save him... but are complaining that no one died?
Your carrier would have died you had to drop two more capitals into the fight and more ECM in order for the carrier to not die(Also, your 270 sensor strength cap could have spent some time getting a point on and then killing a few of the smaller ships)
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TZeer
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2009.01.29 06:41:00 -
[62]
 Originally by: Vampasha
Edited by: Vampasha on 28/01/2009 16:35:42
Originally by: Zaq Phelps
Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists
I never thought the jamm strength was a problem, since having 60 or 230 strength on a carrier doesnt seem to make too much of a difference anyways. Lowering the jamm strength of a falcon would carry the goofy chancebased results over.
The real problem to counter falcons is that theyre able to do their work from 230km away.
If their optimal+fallof range would be reduced to 80km like the other recons, it would be balanced and counterable again.
And no, sniping eccm ships are not the solution here.
Like the other recons? Ok... I'll roll with that. I want guns (or missiles, even though they really kind of suck now)... like the other recons. I also want drones... like the other recons. Hmmm... I'll also take bonuses to two different types of ewar... like the other recons. Oh and don't forget, I'll also take ECM being 100% reliable at the same ranges of the other recons. I'll be glad to give up range, and even the ability to lock down 3 targets (reliably, 4-5 targets is just good luck and not likely in fights lasting over 60 seconds). Hmmm... I'm thinking 50m3 drone bay + missiles + ecm/damps reliably doing its job at <80 km on 1-2 targets w/ an armor or shield buffer. If you want the falcon to operate like other recons, then let it operate like other recons. Or, you could just change the ECCM to a sensor booster script and buff its effectiveness. Personally I like the solopwn falcon much better. It's your idea remember? You said "like the other recons."
Also, for falcons to jam carriers, they either have to be really lucky or put a whole rack of the proper racials on it, or multis. 12.5/230 = 5.4% chance to jam per jammer, or one out of every 20 cycles. This means for four falcons to reliably jam a carrier (including relock time) they need to apply 10 racial jammers (read 2 prefitted for that situation falcons dedicated to one carrier).
Zaq
The falcons didn't seem to have much trouble. The falcons not only perma jammed the carrier, they had enough left over to jam the rest of the gatecamp incluing 2 falcons.
Stop, stop, stop, stop!!
They had carriers, and with over 230 points in sensorstrength you can just forget about permajamming them. And claiming they permajamming all carriers, and spreading jammers on the rest of the gang??
Both know that is bull****. So just stop it. |
rValdez5987
Amarr
32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment.
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Posted - 2009.01.29 07:41:00 -
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Originally by: Jalif
Falcons why you shouldn't use them.
1) See Above
2) People will rather igore you if they can't counter the falcon = you don't get anybody to kill
3) People will BLOB BLOB you just to counter the effect of falcons. If falcon jams 4 people they will bring 4 more people to counter it. Meaning: You don't get a fight because you will leave the battle scene
4) People will bring more falcons which is basicly point 3 which leads to point 1.
Welcome to ****ED UP EVE with a ****ED UP COMMUNITY
Your kidding right... All I do is shoot some random person in some low sec or 0,0 system somewhere and get a fleet dropped on my head. |
Vasili Z
Foundation
Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2009.01.29 10:17:00 -
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Edited by: Vasili Z on 29/01/2009 10:24:16
I've pvped everywhere, in every kind of corp, and with every kind of player. I can fly every HAC and recon in the game. I've flown in giant BS fleets, small tactical recon gangs, gank gangs, everything. This game is worse when ECM is involved.
People who use ECM in my gangs are usually the worst pilots if they're in other ships, I think that's a bit telling.
But whatever, I've dealt with it for 4 years, now when I see overwhelming ECM in an enemy gang I just play something else. 
Also, there is no way in hell a falcon can permajam a carrier with 2 ECCM's...
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Zhula Guixgrixks
Increasing Success by Lowering Expectations
Vanguard.
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Posted - 2009.01.29 13:01:00 -
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THIS:
Originally by: Vasili Z
now when I see overwhelming ECM in an enemy gang I just play something else.
generally speaking, If I see a overhelming blob I just play something else. Nobody is forced to give blobs (ECM or conventional) easy kills. Yes its that simple. |
Xzar Fyrarr
Minmatar
Filiolus Of Bellum
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Posted - 2009.01.29 20:51:00 -
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"What fun is it when everyone is jammed solid?"
PvP is supposed to be fun? :P 
PvP is sris bsnis |
Mik kyo
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.01.30 03:03:00 -
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Originally by: Radcjk
This. I have a falcon. Its my main. If nobs would stop dual accounting falcon alts and callnig it 'solo pvp' (rofls), a significant number of these god damn things would go away. The falcon isn't as ****ed up so much as a massively metagaming community.
The only time it gets uncloaked is if i'm allready outgunned/getting blobbed.
I have several times died on purpose instead of using my falcon when I consider it a good fight.
If you actually gained some skill and didn't need to call in a giant gang every time you wanted to kill someone we wouldn't need falcon alts.
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