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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2004.08.01 18:38:00 -
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Yesterday SNIGG was attacked by Norad, NorthStar Industries, RKK, and Jericho. 2 days ago we were attacked by Crytech(sp?) of CoD.
Some of these attacks were legitimate misunderstandings, others were blatent backstabbing. BNC and Northstar sat at the gate with us and pretended to be friends, and then opened fire without warning.
Needless to say, I'm not too keen on maintaining a NAP with an alliance that just randomly decides to attack. To their credit, nobody from FU has attacked us, and we remember that. But we can't maintain a good relationship with half of the coalition while the other half shoots at us, so its KOS to all.
This does not mean we'll be helping PA in any way. They are still KOS too.
Shamis
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2004.08.01 18:38:00 -
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Yesterday SNIGG was attacked by Norad, NorthStar Industries, RKK, and Jericho. 2 days ago we were attacked by Crytech(sp?) of CoD.
Some of these attacks were legitimate misunderstandings, others were blatent backstabbing. BNC and Northstar sat at the gate with us and pretended to be friends, and then opened fire without warning.
Needless to say, I'm not too keen on maintaining a NAP with an alliance that just randomly decides to attack. To their credit, nobody from FU has attacked us, and we remember that. But we can't maintain a good relationship with half of the coalition while the other half shoots at us, so its KOS to all.
This does not mean we'll be helping PA in any way. They are still KOS too.
Shamis
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.08.01 18:42:00 -
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EC-P8R is gonna be a helluva lot of fun for SNIGG then....
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.08.01 18:42:00 -
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EC-P8R is gonna be a helluva lot of fun for SNIGG then....
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

TGIF
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Posted - 2004.08.01 18:42:00 -
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whiney mode:
Monsieur Shamis, i welcome you to comming to your senses... :r - - -
Absinthe Fueled |

TGIF
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Posted - 2004.08.01 18:42:00 -
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whiney mode:
Monsieur Shamis, i welcome you to comming to your senses... :r - - -
Absinthe Fueled |

Razor Jaxx
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Posted - 2004.08.01 18:48:00 -
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I'm afraid such a development was, in the end, inevitable.
Thanks for the heads up, however, Shamis, and best of luck to you and your posse of rhum-fueled, but nonetheless honorable pirates. 
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Razor Jaxx
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Posted - 2004.08.01 18:48:00 -
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I'm afraid such a development was, in the end, inevitable.
Thanks for the heads up, however, Shamis, and best of luck to you and your posse of rhum-fueled, but nonetheless honorable pirates. 
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2004.08.01 18:56:00 -
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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Some of these attacks were legitimate misunderstandings, others were blatent backstabbing. BNC and Northstar sat at the gate with us and pretended to be friends, and then opened fire without warning.
It's a shame but if you pirate then what do you expect? My guys sat at the gate not firing because we'd seen no evidence of you pirating. When you did they fired.
Would your pilots have behaved differently if we'd said "please don't pirate there's a good chap"?
I like you guys, for pirates you're a good bunch and this notion that is flying around that we set you up because we wanted to shoot you is utter rowlocks. However, as I told you when you left FU if you pirate we'll shoot at you. You did so we did. When we were both that upfront with each other about a week ago I'm surprised you view this development as some kind of backstab.
Anyways have fun in space.
Eve Blacklight Style
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2004.08.01 18:56:00 -
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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Some of these attacks were legitimate misunderstandings, others were blatent backstabbing. BNC and Northstar sat at the gate with us and pretended to be friends, and then opened fire without warning.
It's a shame but if you pirate then what do you expect? My guys sat at the gate not firing because we'd seen no evidence of you pirating. When you did they fired.
Would your pilots have behaved differently if we'd said "please don't pirate there's a good chap"?
I like you guys, for pirates you're a good bunch and this notion that is flying around that we set you up because we wanted to shoot you is utter rowlocks. However, as I told you when you left FU if you pirate we'll shoot at you. You did so we did. When we were both that upfront with each other about a week ago I'm surprised you view this development as some kind of backstab.
Anyways have fun in space.
Eve Blacklight Style
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2004.08.01 19:09:00 -
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Edited by: Shamis Orzoz on 01/08/2004 19:11:45
Originally by: Blacklight It's a shame but if you pirate then what do you expect? My guys sat at the gate not firing because we'd seen no evidence of you pirating. When you did they fired.
Would your pilots have behaved differently if we'd said "please don't pirate there's a good chap"?
I like you guys, for pirates you're a good bunch and this notion that is flying around that we set you up because we wanted to shoot you is utter rowlocks. However, as I told you when you left FU if you pirate we'll shoot at you. You did so we did. When we were both that upfront with each other about a week ago I'm surprised you view this development as some kind of backstab.
Anyways have fun in space.
I was sitting at the gate with one corpmate, and a bunch of BNC and Northstar frigs and 1 bs. We were shooting people, pod killed one frig (and the kill mail states that some of your members were involved in this kill) and then I see everyone swarming my corpmate in his raven. So I open fire on BNC and northstar, only to have GhostFleet jump in to help you(WTF, former PA!), and another NCA battleship (don't remember who).
But its all water under the bridge...less talking and more fighting. No more politics for me 
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2004.08.01 19:09:00 -
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Edited by: Shamis Orzoz on 01/08/2004 19:11:45
Originally by: Blacklight It's a shame but if you pirate then what do you expect? My guys sat at the gate not firing because we'd seen no evidence of you pirating. When you did they fired.
Would your pilots have behaved differently if we'd said "please don't pirate there's a good chap"?
I like you guys, for pirates you're a good bunch and this notion that is flying around that we set you up because we wanted to shoot you is utter rowlocks. However, as I told you when you left FU if you pirate we'll shoot at you. You did so we did. When we were both that upfront with each other about a week ago I'm surprised you view this development as some kind of backstab.
Anyways have fun in space.
I was sitting at the gate with one corpmate, and a bunch of BNC and Northstar frigs and 1 bs. We were shooting people, pod killed one frig (and the kill mail states that some of your members were involved in this kill) and then I see everyone swarming my corpmate in his raven. So I open fire on BNC and northstar, only to have GhostFleet jump in to help you(WTF, former PA!), and another NCA battleship (don't remember who).
But its all water under the bridge...less talking and more fighting. No more politics for me 
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Kayosoni
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Posted - 2004.08.01 19:15:00 -
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All I have to say is...
http://www.siegedom.com/Files/Eve/Kills/Acix/1.jpg -----------------------------------
Currently Playing Lineage 2 - Erica Server |

Kayosoni
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Posted - 2004.08.01 19:15:00 -
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All I have to say is...
http://www.siegedom.com/Files/Eve/Kills/Acix/1.jpg -----------------------------------
Currently Playing Lineage 2 - Erica Server |

Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2004.08.01 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: Kayosoni All I have to say is...
http://www.siegedom.com/Files/Eve/Kills/Acix/1.jpg
That's quite a kill, you guys must have been really well organized to pull that one off against all odds 
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2004.08.01 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: Kayosoni All I have to say is...
http://www.siegedom.com/Files/Eve/Kills/Acix/1.jpg
That's quite a kill, you guys must have been really well organized to pull that one off against all odds 
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Mitchello
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Posted - 2004.08.01 19:19:00 -
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Edited by: Mitchello on 01/08/2004 19:21:24 wow I come back for an hour before Eugene Pride and am assaulted by this treachery!?
NCA can't say "oh we back stabbed you because your pirates" because they openly admit to working with RKK, EVOL and m0o. so basically they just back stabbed an ally the had a NAP with. it doesn't matter that it was Snigg, one of the badest and most wicked pirate factions in eve, what matters in this betrayal this low down and dirty betrayal.
absolutely disgusting and I'm glad I'm not anywhere near the north anymore. what alliance is this that shoots it's allies that turns traitor on the drop of the hat. that defends it's action because snigg are pirates yet fights along side rkk, m0o, and evolution. foul, most foul and I am truly disapointed.
you guys make it VERY hard to stay neutral, stop being *****s you have enough people to attack and pirate with out killing your own NAP and allies.
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Mitchello
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Posted - 2004.08.01 19:19:00 -
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Edited by: Mitchello on 01/08/2004 19:21:24 wow I come back for an hour before Eugene Pride and am assaulted by this treachery!?
NCA can't say "oh we back stabbed you because your pirates" because they openly admit to working with RKK, EVOL and m0o. so basically they just back stabbed an ally the had a NAP with. it doesn't matter that it was Snigg, one of the badest and most wicked pirate factions in eve, what matters in this betrayal this low down and dirty betrayal.
absolutely disgusting and I'm glad I'm not anywhere near the north anymore. what alliance is this that shoots it's allies that turns traitor on the drop of the hat. that defends it's action because snigg are pirates yet fights along side rkk, m0o, and evolution. foul, most foul and I am truly disapointed.
you guys make it VERY hard to stay neutral, stop being *****s you have enough people to attack and pirate with out killing your own NAP and allies.
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2004.08.01 19:29:00 -
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Originally by: Mitchello Edited by: Mitchello on 01/08/2004 19:21:24 wow I come back for an hour before Eugene Pride and am assaulted by this treachery!?
NCA can't say "oh we back stabbed you because your pirates" because they openly admit to working with RKK, EVOL and m0o. so basically they just back stabbed an ally the had a NAP with. it doesn't matter that it was Snigg, one of the badest and most wicked pirate factions in eve, what matters in this betrayal this low down and dirty betrayal.
absolutely disgusting and I'm glad I'm not anywhere near the north anymore. what alliance is this that shoots it's allies that turns traitor on the drop of the hat. that defends it's action because snigg are pirates yet fights along side rkk, m0o, and evolution. foul, most foul and I am truly disapointed.
you guys make it VERY hard to stay neutral, stop being *****s you have enough people to attack and pirate with out killing your own NAP and allies.
BNC has never fought alongside of m0o. But that is not the issue.
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2004.08.01 19:29:00 -
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Originally by: Mitchello Edited by: Mitchello on 01/08/2004 19:21:24 wow I come back for an hour before Eugene Pride and am assaulted by this treachery!?
NCA can't say "oh we back stabbed you because your pirates" because they openly admit to working with RKK, EVOL and m0o. so basically they just back stabbed an ally the had a NAP with. it doesn't matter that it was Snigg, one of the badest and most wicked pirate factions in eve, what matters in this betrayal this low down and dirty betrayal.
absolutely disgusting and I'm glad I'm not anywhere near the north anymore. what alliance is this that shoots it's allies that turns traitor on the drop of the hat. that defends it's action because snigg are pirates yet fights along side rkk, m0o, and evolution. foul, most foul and I am truly disapointed.
you guys make it VERY hard to stay neutral, stop being *****s you have enough people to attack and pirate with out killing your own NAP and allies.
BNC has never fought alongside of m0o. But that is not the issue.
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Kalast Raven
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Posted - 2004.08.01 19:48:00 -
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Does NCA have an anti-pirate stance, or is it reserved for an anti-S*****rdly stance?
I detect a double-standard. -------
K. Raven
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Kalast Raven
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Posted - 2004.08.01 19:48:00 -
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Does NCA have an anti-pirate stance, or is it reserved for an anti-S*****rdly stance?
I detect a double-standard. -------
K. Raven
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Stained
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Posted - 2004.08.01 19:53:00 -
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BNC trid to gank Omniwar while in gang with them once if I remember correct.
Take a look at our kill list I'm pretty sure there are some BNC tickers in there.
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Hair is Over-rated.
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Stained
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Posted - 2004.08.01 19:53:00 -
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BNC trid to gank Omniwar while in gang with them once if I remember correct.
Take a look at our kill list I'm pretty sure there are some BNC tickers in there.
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Hair is Over-rated.
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Damajink
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Posted - 2004.08.01 19:55:00 -
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Edited by: Damajink on 01/08/2004 19:57:45 Nm, just saw Stained's post 
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Damajink
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Posted - 2004.08.01 19:55:00 -
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Edited by: Damajink on 01/08/2004 19:57:45 Nm, just saw Stained's post 
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.08.01 19:57:00 -
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as far as im concerend BNC dont like pirates much, even lost my forums access in NCA forums  Wanna fly with me?
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.08.01 19:57:00 -
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as far as im concerend BNC dont like pirates much, even lost my forums access in NCA forums  Wanna fly with me?
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juduzz
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Posted - 2004.08.01 20:03:00 -
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After what stained said theres only to my knowledge been one other inccident of BNC flying in gang with m0o jonny damered or how ever you spell it ( i provided the screens :P ) looooooooooong time ago uptill i left GODS/PA dont actualy recall seeing a NORAD pilot flying with m0o just evol ( no ****) FU/cod and the rest of NCA.
They have flown with evol but not every one considers evol a pirate corp there just associated with them and they aint exactly angels :P ----------------------------------------------
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juduzz
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Posted - 2004.08.01 20:03:00 -
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After what stained said theres only to my knowledge been one other inccident of BNC flying in gang with m0o jonny damered or how ever you spell it ( i provided the screens :P ) looooooooooong time ago uptill i left GODS/PA dont actualy recall seeing a NORAD pilot flying with m0o just evol ( no ****) FU/cod and the rest of NCA.
They have flown with evol but not every one considers evol a pirate corp there just associated with them and they aint exactly angels :P ----------------------------------------------
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