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Gierling
Gallente
Viper Squad
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Posted - 2009.02.01 19:36:00 -
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Many ships have bonuses that simply do not fit them, or are simply subpar in practice.
So lets play a game to suggest fixes/vent about it.
Rules are as follows:
1: Bonus must be patterned on an existing bonus. So no recommending "Reduce Mass by 10% per level" to fix the phoon.
2: Bonus must not completely steal the role or flavor of another ship of that class and tech level.
ok...
I'll get this started.
Dominix:
Get rid of the Turret Bonus, replace with 10% remote sensor dampening bonus.
Ewar isn't only for frigs and cruisers and the Domi doesn't even have the grid to mount a full rack of guns even in a gank configuration.
Hyperion:
Get rid of the Armor tanking bonus, replace with 10% falloff Bonus.
This immediately fixes the hyps deficiencies at long and short range without intruding on the megas territory. The Mega is the finesse fighter, while the hyp becomes able to reach out.
Rokh:
Replace Shield boost bonus with Mining laser amount bonus from the osprey...
*Ducks*
I keed I keed... actually replace boost bonus with shield hitpoint bonus.
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ShadowGod56
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Posted - 2009.02.01 19:39:00 -
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 Originally by: Gierling
Rokh:
Replace Shield boost bonus with Mining laser amount bonus from the osprey...
*Ducks*
I keed I keed... actually replace boost bonus with shield hitpoint bonus.
its not a boost bonus its resists, and umm no keep the rokh the way it is
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Saietor Blackgreen
The First Foundation
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Posted - 2009.02.01 19:39:00 -
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Rokh has no shield boost bonus. It has optimal and shield resist bonuses. You can hardly think of better bonuses for this ship.
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Gierling
Gallente
Viper Squad
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Posted - 2009.02.01 19:41:00 -
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Originally by: Saietor Blackgreen
Rokh has no shield boost bonus. It has optimal and shield resist bonuses. You can hardly think of better bonuses for this ship.
Whoopsie, I thought the Rokh had a boost bonus. Never flown one, only looked at them in sisi while they were still in testing (and I could swear at one point it did have a boost bonus).
In that case never mind the rokh.
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N.
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Posted - 2009.02.01 19:42:00 -
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Ignorance: the reason sibling sex is frowned upon.
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ChalSto
LOCKDOWN.
HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2009.02.01 19:45:00 -
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Edited by: ChalSto on 01/02/2009 19:45:38
Originally by: Gierling
Dominix:
Get rid of the Turret Bonus, replace with 10% remote sensor dampening bonus.
Ewar isn't only for frigs and cruisers and the Domi doesn't even have the grid to mount a full rack of guns even in a gank configuration.
Hyperion:
Get rid of the Armor tanking bonus, replace with 10% falloff Bonus.
This immediately fixes the hyps deficiencies at long and short range without intruding on the megas territory. The Mega is the finesse fighter, while the hyp becomes able to reach out.
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You are from the EvE-north, right? 
Originally by: Agmar
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"The North is so ghey that even the NPCs fly ravens." |
Gierling
Gallente
Viper Squad
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Posted - 2009.02.01 19:49:00 -
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Myrmidon:
Get rid of armor rep bonus, replace with med hybrid tracking.
Brutix:
Get rid of armor rep bonus, replace with med hybrid falloff.
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Lochmar Fiendhiem
Caldari
Quicksilver Industries and Painful Effects Inc.
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Posted - 2009.02.01 19:50:00 -
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the thermal drone bonus on gallente cov ops.
replace with : anything.
Originally by: Halkin
bob is dead, goons are great, cheese is cheesy, there we go no need for any more threads
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Osiris Andras
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Posted - 2009.02.01 19:55:00 -
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osprey: replace 10% bonus to shield transporter capacitor use with 5% cargo capacity, replace 500% shield transprt range with +2 to warp strength.
 
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Marcus Druallis
Quantum Industries
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.01 19:57:00 -
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Move Maelstrom's boost bonus to armor HP or resists. |
Karrade Krise
Galatic P0RN Starz
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Posted - 2009.02.01 19:57:00 -
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Orca needs 3 Turret slots, and a 300% Bonus to Turret Damage per level.  |
Orakkus
Minmatar
m3 Corp
BlackWater.
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Posted - 2009.02.01 20:57:00 -
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Change the following:
Typhoon: Change from Torpedo/Cruise ROF to Drone DPS per level or Drone Hanger size increase per level.
Maelstrom: Change Shield Booster bonus to Shield Booster cap use reduction (same with Cyclone).
Vigil/Hyena/Bellicose/Rapier/Huninn: Change Target Painter effectiveness to Target Painter range.
Naglfar: Change Citadel Launcher Rate of Fire to Capital Projectile Damage. |
James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.02.01 21:00:00 -
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turn rep/boost amount bonus into ones that also cover remote repair. |
Deschenus Maximus
Amarr
Digital Fury Corporation
Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2009.02.01 21:10:00 -
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Originally by: Gierling
Dominix:
Get rid of the Turret Bonus, replace with 10% remote sensor dampening bonus.
No. Damps on a BS isn't going to accomplish much. Leave the damage bonus, boost the grid.
Originally by: Gierling
Hyperion:
Get rid of the Armor tanking bonus, replace with 10% falloff Bonus.
Armour-tanking bonus is fine. Falloff bonus would be ok too.
Originally by: Gierling
Rokh:
Replace Shield boost bonus with Mining laser amount bonus from the osprey...
*Ducks*
I keed I keed... actually replace boost bonus with shield hitpoint bonus.
You're thinking of the Maelstrom.
For my part:
Huginn: switch missile bonus for web strength bonus.
Lachesis: Switch missile bonus for damp optimal range.
Punisher, Maller and Prophecy: Switch laser cap reduction bonus to laser damage bonus (mini Abaddons ftw!).
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2009.02.01 21:13:00 -
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if you are going to change the maelstrom, change the 5% damage bonus to a 7.5% damage bonus
tempest 5% damage and rof to 7.5% damage and rof
lasers need a 50% cap reduction, and the geddon needs the 10% to cap use per level changed to a 5% damage per level
arazu 5% bonus to rsd to 7.5% or 10% |
Spartan dax
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.02.01 21:21:00 -
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Moa:
Remove the 5% shield resists bonus and give it a 10% falloff hybrid bonus for great versatility.
Makes sniping in it even better as well as giving it good range with blasters and the ability to fit an armourtank without feeling the guilt of neglecting a bonus.
And do the same thing for the Ferox while we're at it.
(stupid guilt btw)
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Perry
Amarr
The X-Trading Company
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.01 22:31:00 -
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I would like 4th Bonus on Assault Ships before i try to break even more ships
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bff Jill
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Posted - 2009.02.01 22:54:00 -
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Bellicose with an extra launcher hardpoint and a missile damage bonus instead of projectile.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2009.02.01 23:25:00 -
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Change all Minmatar ship bonuses from projectiles to lasers or missiles. Boost grid/cap appropriately. The other three races can now be deleted from the database entirely, and nothing will be lost.
Imagine, a Vagabond with missile damage, missile ROF, ship velocity, missile velocity, or a Jaguar with 2x laser damage + laser optimal. Why fly anything else?
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Tskara Jylan
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Posted - 2009.02.01 23:29:00 -
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I love how almost everyone basically wants their race to be overpowered.
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bronyra
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Posted - 2009.02.02 00:10:00 -
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Change the thorax/deimos mwd cap bonus to an afterburner speed bonus, making it at least as fast as it would be with a mwd.
Also i reckon the fleet tempest should get an extra turret, similar to the cnr. |
zombiedeadhead
Minmatar
Tribal Core
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Posted - 2009.02.02 00:26:00 -
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Cyclone > change shield boost bonus to shield regen bonus
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Sarkiss
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2009.02.02 00:28:00 -
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Change Cyclone Shield Boost Bonus, to Shield Resitsance.
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Brodde Dim
Hyper-Nova
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Posted - 2009.02.02 00:55:00 -
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Eos:
Remove the +15m3 drone bay per level bonus.
Replace with a +15Mbit/s drone bandwidth bonus.
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Tzar'rim
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Posted - 2009.02.02 00:58:00 -
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Maelstrom; lose the shield amount bonus and replace with optimal range.
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De Guantanamo
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Posted - 2009.02.02 00:58:00 -
[26]
Change Falcon cap reduction bonus to 20% jamming strength per level and optimal from 20% to 25%
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Deschenus Maximus
Amarr
Digital Fury Corporation
Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2009.02.02 01:14:00 -
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Originally by: De Guantanamo
Change Falcon cap reduction bonus to 20% jamming strength per level and optimal from 20% to 25%
Sweet
****ing
God
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Horm Onal
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Posted - 2009.02.02 01:46:00 -
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Edited by: Horm Onal on 02/02/2009 01:53:08
(domi is fine as is imo, nasty when using full complement of drones and blasters)
Cheetah:
what's up with the optimal range bonus on a ship with no grid for arty ... remove and replace with the velocity bonus from the vigil.
Maelstrom:
Replace rate of fire bonus with damage bonus.
Reduce ammo usage and makes it more effective at sniping then tempest(tempest has free highs and effectively the same dps/volley as a mael).
Eos:
Remove hybrid damage bonus and replace with drone damage bonus.
They really hurt this ship when they nerfed it, drone damage bonus would help it get back a tiny teeny bit of its former self. (myrm would be a nicer basis too for a creodron creation)
(stealthy edits)
Vengeance:
4th bonus: EM missile damage bonus
Retribution:
4th bonus: armor resist bonus from punisher
Hawk and Harpy:
4th bonus: shield resist bonus from merlin
Ishkur:
4th bonus: something drone related, like drone range or speed or so. maybe just drone hitpoints.
Enyo:
4th bonus: Falloff bonus from Incursus
Jaguar and Wolf:
4th bonus: tracking bonus from Rifter
(/stealthy edits)
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Last Wolf
Umbra Wing
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Posted - 2009.02.02 04:59:00 -
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Nighthawk.
5% missile Explosion Velocity per level to 10% missile Velocity per level.
+300 grid
Besides, I'm never gonna give you up, never gonna let you down |
MC dragos
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Posted - 2009.02.02 06:09:00 -
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Prophecy :
Replace the lol 10% reduction in Medium Energy Weapon capacitor use with ROF or dmg mod
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