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EvilSpork
Invicta.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.02.02 07:01:00 -
[31]
 Originally by: MC dragos
Prophecy :
Replace the lol 10% reduction in Medium Energy Weapon capacitor use with ROF or dmg mod
i think lasers should have their capacitor use reduced and all amarr ships bonuses changed to something other than "you can fire your guns and cap out 50% slower"
having that bonus effectively eliminates a real bonus that other races have.
hell, i wouldnt care if the new bonus was 10% shinier golden hull per level, at least it wouldnt be a bonus just to USE the guns.. it bothers me 
why does everyone want to get rid of the maelstroms boost bonus?! thats the ships bread and butter.. you guys are nuts... imho of course 
falcon should have its optimal range bonus changed to ECM falloff, it would make it slightly "weaker" than the rook, and would give falcon pilots the choice of super long range vs super strong ECM.
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Spaztick
Canadian Imperial Armaments
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2009.02.02 07:12:00 -
[32]
You spelled color wrong in your sig. |
EvilSpork
Invicta.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.02.02 07:39:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Spaztick
You spelled color wrong in your sig.
i didnt make it, click it to see the image creator.  |
Lijhal
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Posted - 2009.02.02 08:52:00 -
[34]
Scorpion:
Get rid of the ECM Bonus, replace it with 5% Rof & 7,5% Optimal of Large Hybrid Weapons per level
(+1 Turret Hardpoint, +1400gp, +40cpu, +25m^3 drone bay)
An by gods sake, make it symmetric!
Typhoon:
Add +2 turret and +2 launcher hardpoints if you want to keep that s**** mixed weapon system bonus ... otherwise make the bonus only for one weapon system!
my 2isk |
Ivena Amethyst
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Posted - 2009.02.02 09:03:00 -
[35]
lol why remove dominix large hybrid bonus? u can put guns on it you know, and it gets omg damage if you do  
remove that 5:th medslot from hyperion though and give it a 7:th lowslot, or hell just make it look good  |
Tzar'rim
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Posted - 2009.02.02 09:26:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Spaztick
You spelled color wrong in your sig.
There's more to the world than just the US. |
Brodde Dim
Hyper-Nova
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Posted - 2009.02.02 09:27:00 -
[37]
Originally by: Spaztick
You spelled color wrong in your sig.
The sig is correct, color is american only. |
Randgris
The Bastards
The Bastards.
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Posted - 2009.02.02 09:49:00 -
[38]
Edited by: Randgris on 02/02/2009 09:50:32
Edited by: Randgris on 02/02/2009 09:49:16
oneiros/scimitar: boost tracking link bonus to 25% tracking link efficiency/level
celestis/arazu/lachesis: boost damp bonus to pre-nerf effectiveness (15%/level?)
thorax/deimos: remove mwd bonus, add 20% warp scrambler range per level
eos: remove drone bay bonus, add 20% armor maintenance bot transfer amount per level
huginn/lachesis: give them bonus to one weapon type, more turret or launcher hardpoints
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Yes I know how my face looks like :D |
Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
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Posted - 2009.02.02 10:14:00 -
[39]
Give all motherships an extra role bonus:
+1000% repair amount for capital armor repairers and capital shield boosters
Watch me tank that dread fleet like dis yo' |
Lyra Blazing
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Posted - 2009.02.02 10:26:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Gierling
I'll get this started.
Dominix:
Get rid of the Turret Bonus, replace with 10% remote sensor dampening bonus.
Ewar isn't only for frigs and cruisers and the Domi doesn't even have the grid to mount a full rack of guns even in a gank configuration.
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Fly the domi before you talk such garbage. The domi is fine as it is. You realy would hurt her with that. It would at very least kill her as mission ship. And making her a e-war ship would make her an instant primary like the scorp. Thank you very much. |
BiggestT
Caldari
Resurrection
Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2009.02.02 10:40:00 -
[41]
The 5% shield resist bonus on the eagle is a joke. Sure its "in line" with all the rail boat bonus's, but it just doesnt work on this hac.
To fit it for effective sniping, u must sacrifice all tank for lock range and gun range. Since you have no tank, not even a buffer, the bonus does jack all.
Change to 5% rof bonus or tracking bonus  |
Myrkala
Minmatar
Aurora Acclivitous
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Posted - 2009.02.02 12:45:00 -
[42]
Give typhoon:
2+ Turret hardpoints
2+ Missile hardpoints (or just 2+ Missile hardpoints, or even 1+ of each, just give us more options!)
Give the Naglfar:
2+ Turret hardpoints
2+ Missile hardpoints
(I.e It would have 5 highslots, with 4 Missile/Turret hardpoints, so you can actually train for one weapon system instead of two. Siege module fits into last highslot so its not OP, and I think trying to ditch the siege module for stationhuggin is not viable, but i havent checked.)
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Karl Luckner
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Posted - 2009.02.02 13:39:00 -
[43]
Edited by: Karl Luckner on 02/02/2009 13:40:43
Scorpion:
- 40% stength for multispectral ECM jammers per level
- 5% to all shield resistences per level
dronehangar and bandwith expanded to 125
Edith: and for christ's sake give it a goddamn left wing. |
adriaans
Amarr
Ankaa.
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Posted - 2009.02.02 13:50:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Gierling
Many ships have bonuses that simply do not fit them, or are simply subpar in practice.
So lets play a game to suggest fixes/vent about it.
Rules are as follows:
1: Bonus must be patterned on an existing bonus. So no recommending "Reduce Mass by 10% per level" to fix the phoon.
2: Bonus must not completely steal the role or flavor of another ship of that class and tech level.
ok...
I'll get this started.
Dominix:
Get rid of the Turret Bonus, replace with 10% remote sensor dampening bonus.
Ewar isn't only for frigs and cruisers and the Domi doesn't even have the grid to mount a full rack of guns even in a gank configuration.
Hyperion:
Get rid of the Armor tanking bonus, replace with 10% falloff Bonus.
This immediately fixes the hyps deficiencies at long and short range without intruding on the megas territory. The Mega is the finesse fighter, while the hyp becomes able to reach out.
Rokh:
Replace Shield boost bonus with Mining laser amount bonus from the osprey...
*Ducks*
I keed I keed... actually replace boost bonus with shield hitpoint bonus.
are you stupid? all those bonuses you want changed are good ones...
the active hype rep bonus for instance, its not good in a fleet fight ofc, but in small/medium gangs it will tank you longer than youre buffer ship lasts  (not to mention its the only ship i ever am going to use dual centus a reppers on in pvp, hello 4.5k+ dps tank ), same with the rokh... and both are incredible good 1 vs 1 or 1 vs more ships.
and yes the domi has enough grid for large guns (electrons) + tank without powergrid rigs or fitting mods.... |
Cedric Diggory
Perfunctory Oleaginous Laocoon Mugwumps
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Posted - 2009.02.02 13:51:00 -
[45]
Quote:
You spelled color wrong in your sig.
The eve cluster is based in London, therefore US English can go hang
Scorpion: Give it a railgun optimal bonus to go with it's ECM so it can actually join the fleet snipers with weapons other than ECM.
Amarr: Like those before me, I'd like to see the cap bonus change to something a little more useful, even if the guns still ate cap like there was no tomorrow.
Assault Frigates: I'd like to see them get as many bonuses as other T2 ships rather than having the silly "built in" bonuses. |
SuperNova221
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Posted - 2009.02.02 14:10:00 -
[46]
Phoon, 10% mass reduction per level, 5% ship velocity per level |
Misina Arlath
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.02.02 14:42:00 -
[47]
Augoror: Replace the Cap transfer bonus with Armor repair bonus. Get it in-line with the T2 Guardian.
Thorax: Change the MWD bonus with anything.
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"Every complex problem has a solution which is easy, neat and wrong!" |
E Jizzle
Gallente
A.M.A.G.U. Industries
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Posted - 2009.02.02 15:58:00 -
[48]
The Thorax is a blaster boat, so therefore why change the WMD bonus?? |
Visceroth
Minmatar
The Athiest Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.02.02 18:14:00 -
[49]
Originally by: E ****le
The Thorax is a blaster boat, so therefore why change the WMD bonus??
Because being a blaster boat probably means you will be in 10KM range which is scram range which means bye bye MWD. Therefore that bonus is not viable within 10KM. Even without the bonus I would still put on a MWD to close the distance. But it would be nicer to have a tracking or RoF bonus.
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Shereza
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Posted - 2009.02.02 18:28:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Visceroth
Originally by: E ****le
The Thorax is a blaster boat, so therefore why change the WMD bonus??
Because being a blaster boat probably means you will be in 10KM range which is scram range which means bye bye MWD. Therefore that bonus is not viable within 10KM. Even without the bonus I would still put on a MWD to close the distance. But it would be nicer to have a tracking or RoF bonus.
#1 He said WMD, Weapons of Mass Destruction, not MWD, Microwarpdrive. Of course, the thorax doesn't have a WMD bonus and if it did the only real WMDs in the game are bombs and Doomsday Devices and I don't think people would want to have either on a thorax.
Well, maybe smartbombs can count as WMDs. Maybe have the thorax's "WMD" bonus be a 10%/level boost to the radius (or diameter I suppose) of smartbomb explosions?
#2 The MWD bonus on the thorax is good for one thing within the 10km range. With the right MWD you'll have more cap to lose than a thorax without a bonus/MWD would. But not much extra cap. |
AleRiperKilt
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Posted - 2009.02.02 18:33:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Brodde Dim
Eos:
Remove the +15m3 drone bay per level bonus.
Replace with a +15Mbit/s drone bandwidth bonus.
Let's make it +10Mbit/s drone bandwidth bonus so with Command Ships 5 you can field 5 heavies |
Karash Amerius
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2009.02.02 18:56:00 -
[52]
All Blockade Runner's active tanking bonuses are completely not used in any fits I have seen. They all need to be replaced with a velocity or agility bonus. |
P'uck
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Posted - 2009.02.02 18:59:00 -
[53]
Edited by: P''uck on 02/02/2009 19:05:53
Originally by: Karash Amerius
All Blockade Runner's active tanking bonuses are completely not used in any fits I have seen. They all need to be replaced with a velocity or agility bonus.
I'd keep the active tanking bonus, if they could fit a gun alongside the cloak. Force Recon Hauler FTW!
Anyways, there are a lot of bonuses mentioned in this thread which are actually just fine and dandy. Let's just hope t3 will bring us the ability to somewhat choose from bonuses when building ships, and be done with it. |
Wannabehero
Absolutely No Retreat
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Posted - 2009.02.02 19:51:00 -
[54]
Maller
Special Ability: 10% reduction in Battleship MWD capacitor consumption and 5% bonus to ship agility per level
This would make my favorite setup work much better. |
Haniblecter Teg
F.R.E.E. Explorer
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.02.02 20:21:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Gierling
Many ships have bonuses that simply do not fit them, or are simply subpar in practice.
So lets play a game to suggest fixes/vent about it.
Rules are as follows:
1: Bonus must be patterned on an existing bonus. So no recommending "Reduce Mass by 10% per level" to fix the phoon.
2: Bonus must not completely steal the role or flavor of another ship of that class and tech level.
ok...
I'll get this started.
Dominix:
Get rid of the Turret Bonus, replace with 10% remote sensor dampening bonus.
Ewar isn't only for frigs and cruisers and the Domi doesn't even have the grid to mount a full rack of guns even in a gank configuration.
Hyperion:
Get rid of the Armor tanking bonus, replace with 10% falloff Bonus.
This immediately fixes the hyps deficiencies at long and short range without intruding on the megas territory. The Mega is the finesse fighter, while the hyp becomes able to reach out.
Rokh:
Replace Shield boost bonus with Mining laser amount bonus from the osprey...
*Ducks*
I keed I keed... actually replace boost bonus with shield hitpoint bonus.
Do Not Want. |
Tchell Dahhn
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2009.02.02 20:21:00 -
[56]
Dramiel:
Remove "25% bonus to Small Projectile Turret damage" and replace it with "25% bonus to Salvaging speed". (Oh, and name it "Tchell Dahhn's Modified Dramiel".)
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Kayosoni
Caldari
Arcane Technologies
The Five
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Posted - 2009.02.02 21:17:00 -
[57]
Rattlesnake/Gila/Worm:
Change gallente BS bonus to 20% ecm effectiveness per level. +1 mid -1 low on each ship.
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TII Noob
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Posted - 2009.02.02 21:41:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Marcus Druallis
Move Maelstrom's boost bonus to armor HP or resists.
shield hp bonus?? not resis since its kinda a amarr/caldari thing only. |
Brodde Dim
Hyper-Nova
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Posted - 2009.02.02 21:52:00 -
[59]
Originally by: AleRiperKilt
Originally by: Brodde Dim
Eos:
Remove the +15m3 drone bay per level bonus.
Replace with a +15Mbit/s drone bandwidth bonus.
Let's make it +10Mbit/s drone bandwidth bonus so with Command Ships 5 you can field 5 heavies
True, slight misscalculation on my part :P |
Wannabehero
Absolutely No Retreat
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Posted - 2009.02.02 22:04:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Kayosoni
Rattlesnake/Gila/Worm:
Change gallente BS bonus to 20% ecm effectiveness per level. +1 mid -1 low on each ship.
This is win |
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