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Brigadier Kwozi
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Posted - 2009.02.02 05:53:00 -
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I'm single. My best friend is a woman my age. I have romantic feelings for her and we have talked about it, she's cool with me since all I really want is friendship too.
But here's the kicker: She's really really hot, and I she tends to end up in my *wink* *wink* fantasies. Even though I would never do anything to jeopardize my friendship with her in real life.
Am I doing a wrong here?
I know it's a silly question... but I don't know the answer |

Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2009.02.02 05:55:00 -
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Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 02/02/2009 05:56:06 No, not wrong at all. If you really aren't sure, ask her what she thinks of it, maybe you'll even get lucky and she'll invite you to make those fantasies reality.
BTW: you should take advantage of this friendship to slip a hidden camera into her bedroom next time you see her, so you can get some better fantasy material. You can thank me with copies of all of the videos. -----------
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Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
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Posted - 2009.02.02 05:55:00 -
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It's not wrong but it is hard. I hate being in the 'friend' zone as it causes nothing but heartache unless you are the gay best friend. I can't offer you any advice as I have been in your situation and it only caused pain 
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Neopel Swenski
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Posted - 2009.02.02 06:01:00 -
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Originally by: Super Whopper It's not wrong but it is hard. I hate being in the 'friend' zone as it causes nothing but heartache unless you are the gay best friend. I can't offer you any advice as I have been in your situation and it only caused pain 
You are right about that... worst feeling in the world to see her with another man.
But sometimes friendship is more important. |

Spaztick
Canadian Imperial Armaments Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2009.02.02 06:01:00 -
[5]
Read this. You'll thank me later. After all, everyone needs some type of spacer in their sigs to show it's not part of the post.
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bff Jill
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Posted - 2009.02.02 06:48:00 -
[6]
best to limit contact with females to text only over the internet, they are all evil and don't even know it (most of the time). Horrible creatures. 
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Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2009.02.02 08:13:00 -
[7]
Being friends doesn't magically turn off a person's natural compulsion to find someone attractive. So to answer your question, no. |

Xen Gin
Universal Mining Inc Forged Dominion
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Posted - 2009.02.02 08:35:00 -
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Originally by: Spaztick Edited by: Spaztick on 02/02/2009 06:15:16 Read this. You'll thank me later.
If you don't feel like reading it, then you are making a costly mistake and you have only yourself to blame, but I'll sum it up for you:
You're boned (not by her, I mean in a bad way), get on with it, either make a move on her, never talk to her again or find someone else.
Your God, That explains a hell of a lot about my past "friendships". ------
Originally by: Rifter Drifter News just in..
Games are a pastime.. not a way of life.
If your not enjoying, stop playing, and don't post about it.
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Norwood Franskly
Minmatar Fleet of the Damned B.L.A.C.K.
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Posted - 2009.02.02 09:53:00 -
[9]
Start acting like a jerk, since all women just want B#stards
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
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Posted - 2009.02.02 10:18:00 -
[10]
tbh I've had silly dreams about almost all attractive girls I consider friends and its hilarious once you realise its a dream and thus you can do what you want |

Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2009.02.02 10:48:00 -
[11]
Originally by: Brigadier Kwozi
I'm single. My best friend is a woman my age. I have romantic feelings for her and we have talked about it, she's cool with me since all I really want is friendship too.
But here's the kicker: She's really really hot, and I she tends to end up in my *wink* *wink* fantasies. Even though I would never do anything to jeopardize my friendship with her in real life.
Am I doing a wrong here?
I know it's a silly question... but I don't know the answer
OK. This is what you do.
First, stop bull ****ting your self that you aren't in love with her. If you have Romantic feelings for her - you're freaking in love with her. THAT is the problem.
Now - if you weren't in love with her and you were just friends and she was hot - then of course you'd be thinking about boinking her. All guys do that with any hot chick they know. That's not a problem. The freaking problem is if you fall in love with them.
Now as to boinking your hot friend ... that you have to really play by ear. If she's counting on you to be her friend - that is going to mean - not trying to boink her - to her. If you try it and she's not receptive you can lose the friendship. The thing is - you're going to lose the friendship anyway when she finds a boy friend and no longer has time for you.
Now - what you really need to do - is to find someone else who is also hot and wants to boink you.
1) Get in shape. Go to the gym, work out, get the flab off. Make exercise a routine part of your life. Do like your mom said and - stand up straight. Good posture counts for a lot. Make holding your stomach in a natural part of your life.
2) Effect a clean cut appearance. Long or short doesn't matter but keep your hair and/or beard neatly trimmed.
3) Wear clean, new clothes. They don't need to be anything fancy - but they must be clean and new.
4) Make money. Chicks just freaking love money. Don't flash it - just have it.
5) Get a hot car. Chicks just freaking love hot cars.
Have a definite goal in life and be actively working towards it.
Nothing attracts chicks more than a man with confidence in himself and a purpose in life.
Don't let your "friend" waste your life. The years you have now - are not freaking coming back. Chicks just freaking love to have a bunch of little "friends" hanging on. It makes them feel more secure and enhances their ego - which they need to deal with the real bastards they have to deal with. A real bastard will play upon a chick's sense of inferiority to make himself seem better than she is - BSing her into looking up to him - so that she'll put out. You don't have to be a real bastard to get a cute chick - but - you do have to have the same amount of confidence in yourself that he does (or pretends he does). The difference between the bastard and a good guy is - when things go wrong for the bastard he gets furious as it's blowing his cover that he's always right. The good guy has confidence in who he is and where he's going in life and accepts that things aren't always going to work out perfectly. That's just one more thing he has to - confidently - deal with.
Be strong and healthy. Be good at your job. Know who you are and what you want out of life.
Do those things and you'll find a hot chick who wants to come along for the ride.
Don't do them and you can spend your youth being some hot chicks security blanket.
You are only going to be young - once - and once it's gone it's gone for good. Don't waste yourself. Go out and find some other hot chick to ball. If you have any chance with your "friend" that will make her jealous and give you that "other girl stamp of approval". If it doesn't - then you'll have that other hot chick to ball.
Faction Schools Orbiting vs. Kiting |

Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
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Posted - 2009.02.02 10:52:00 -
[12]
Edited by: Sokratesz on 02/02/2009 10:52:40
Originally by: Toshiro GreyHawk
First, stop bull ****ting your self that you aren't in love with her. If you have Romantic feelings for her - you're freaking in love with her. THAT is the problem.
Disagreed strongly. I've had romantic feelings for women whom I definitely wasn't in love with at the time. It's just instinct, you see an attractive member of the opposite sex, your natural response is to want to have sex with that person.
Your cap ship deserves CPR's! |

Myrhial Arkenath
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2009.02.02 11:07:00 -
[13]
Originally by: Brigadier Kwozi
I'm single. My best friend is a woman my age. I have romantic feelings for her and we have talked about it, she's cool with me since all I really want is friendship too.
But here's the kicker: She's really really hot, and I she tends to end up in my *wink* *wink* fantasies. Even though I would never do anything to jeopardize my friendship with her in real life.
Am I doing a wrong here?
I know it's a silly question... but I don't know the answer
Nothing wrong with having fantasies like that. I advice you to keep them to yourself though. There is a chance that telling her about it may risk losing her friendship since she may think you are crossing the line you have both set. There is of course also the chance that she feels happy she appears in your fantasies. But the latter is less frequently the case. It really depends on her personality.
CEO | Diary of a pod pilot |

Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.02.02 11:31:00 -
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I know exactly how it feels, in the same position. Theres this girl I'm in love with however she says she just wants to be friends. And to say the least I jsut cannot bear being only friends. (from the start we were flirting etc. but she kinda made her mind up i guess)
However I decided to do something abit more drastic... I told her I caouldn't talk/meet her anymore until i was over her. Shes pretty sad over it but heh. I'm still not over her (been like this since april last year ). Been with plenty other girls and tried she always pops up in my head. It sucks |

Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
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Posted - 2009.02.02 11:41:00 -
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Originally by: Toshiro GreyHawk Bitterness you can taste.
I agree with Toshiro here. She is using you for whatever reason and it's only going to break your heart if you love her. If you don't love her then you're being a normal man who fantasises about anything and everything.
I once made the mistake of being in the 'friend zone' and I have always regretted it, was one of the biggest mistakes of my life. This thread is bringing up those bad memories.
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Giannamichaels
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Posted - 2009.02.02 11:47:00 -
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A man with a woman as a best friend is usually gay, whats going on here? I cannot understand how any man could have a woman as a best friend, smells of epic fail are you sure you aren't stalking this woman? 
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Stitcher
Caldari Veto.
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Posted - 2009.02.02 11:47:00 -
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1: No, it's not wrong.
2: The "ladder theory" conceit that guys think exclusively about sex and nothing else is incredibly misandric.
That said, the last time I felt similarly to how you do about a friend, we wound up having a couple of "friends with benefits" sessions and then went back to being close friends without the benefits. Whether or not your lady interest would be up for that is a different matter, however.
It can be a fulfilling experience, and do a lot to cement your friendship. Alternatively, it can wreck it. But stepping up from friend to something more does not automatically trash a relationship.
ultimately though, each relationship is uniqe, based on the interaction between two unique people. Asking people on the internet for relationship advice is never a good idea - we can't help you with this. you have to figure it out based on your own perspective on your friendship.
Best of luck. - Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain. |

Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
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Posted - 2009.02.02 11:48:00 -
[18]
How did this turn into a 'how to hook up with loads of chix' thread?
Your cap ship deserves CPR's! |

comrade captain
Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.02.02 12:02:00 -
[19]
Originally by: Toshiro GreyHawk
Originally by: Brigadier Kwozi
I'm single. My best friend is a woman my age. I have romantic feelings for her and we have talked about it, she's cool with me since all I really want is friendship too.
But here's the kicker: She's really really hot, and I she tends to end up in my *wink* *wink* fantasies. Even though I would never do anything to jeopardize my friendship with her in real life.
Am I doing a wrong here?
I know it's a silly question... but I don't know the answer
OK. This is what you do.
First, stop bull ****ting your self that you aren't in love with her. If you have Romantic feelings for her - you're freaking in love with her. THAT is the problem.
Now - if you weren't in love with her and you were just friends and she was hot - then of course you'd be thinking about boinking her. All guys do that with any hot chick they know. That's not a problem. The freaking problem is if you fall in love with them.
Now as to boinking your hot friend ... that you have to really play by ear. If she's counting on you to be her friend - that is going to mean - not trying to boink her - to her. If you try it and she's not receptive you can lose the friendship. The thing is - you're going to lose the friendship anyway when she finds a boy friend and no longer has time for you.
Now - what you really need to do - is to find someone else who is also hot and wants to boink you.
1) Get in shape. Go to the gym, work out, get the flab off. Make exercise a routine part of your life. Do like your mom said and - stand up straight. Good posture counts for a lot. Make holding your stomach in a natural part of your life.
2) Effect a clean cut appearance. Long or short doesn't matter but keep your hair and/or beard neatly trimmed.
3) Wear clean, new clothes. They don't need to be anything fancy - but they must be clean and new.
4) Make money. Chicks just freaking love money. Don't flash it - just have it.
5) Get a hot car. Chicks just freaking love hot cars.
Have a definite goal in life and be actively working towards it.
Nothing attracts chicks more than a man with confidence in himself and a purpose in life.
Don't let your "friend" waste your life. The years you have now - are not freaking coming back. Chicks just freaking love to have a bunch of little "friends" hanging on. It makes them feel more secure and enhances their ego - which they need to deal with the real bastards they have to deal with. A real bastard will play upon a chick's sense of inferiority to make himself seem better than she is - BSing her into looking up to him - so that she'll put out. You don't have to be a real bastard to get a cute chick - but - you do have to have the same amount of confidence in yourself that he does (or pretends he does). The difference between the bastard and a good guy is - when things go wrong for the bastard he gets furious as it's blowing his cover that he's always right. The good guy has confidence in who he is and where he's going in life and accepts that things aren't always going to work out perfectly. That's just one more thing he has to - confidently - deal with.
Be strong and healthy. Be good at your job. Know who you are and what you want out of life.
Do those things and you'll find a hot chick who wants to come along for the ride.
Don't do them and you can spend your youth being some hot chicks security blanket.
You are only going to be young - once - and once it's gone it's gone for good. Don't waste yourself. Go out and find some other hot chick to ball. If you have any chance with your "friend" that will make her jealous and give you that "other girl stamp of approval". If it doesn't - then you'll have that other hot chick to ball.
I approve of this mans comments entirely.
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ceaon
Gallente Porandor
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Posted - 2009.02.02 12:07:00 -
[20]
Edited by: ceaon on 02/02/2009 12:07:45
Originally by: Brigadier Kwozi
I'm single. My best friend is a woman my age. I have romantic feelings for her and we have talked about it, she's cool with me since all I really want is friendship too.
But here's the kicker: She's really really hot, and I she tends to end up in my *wink* *wink* fantasies. Even though I would never do anything to jeopardize my friendship with her in real life.
Am I doing a wrong here?
I know it's a silly question... but I don't know the answer
go to a pub whit her and start to pick up any woman in the pub you may end up in bed whit her
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mamolian
Cruoris Seraphim
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Posted - 2009.02.02 12:41:00 -
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Edited by: mamolian on 02/02/2009 12:41:17 What kind of a ****head comes to the Eve online forums looking for advice of this nature? This has to be a troll.  |

Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
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Posted - 2009.02.02 13:05:00 -
[22]
Originally by: comrade captain
I approve of this mans comments entirely.
I don't get it, he is not mad at her or anything for keeping him on the line and he realises full well that its his own problem if it is even a problem.
Your cap ship deserves CPR's! |

Crackuji
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.02.02 13:08:00 -
[23]
Send her a Valentines card. If she pukes then just say it was a friendly joke.
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
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Posted - 2009.02.02 13:08:00 -
[24]
Originally by: Toshiro GreyHawk
OK. This is what you do.
First, stop bull ****ting your self that you aren't in love with her. If you have Romantic feelings for her - you're freaking in love with her. THAT is the problem.
Now - if you weren't in love with her and you were just friends and she was hot - then of course you'd be thinking about boinking her. All guys do that with any hot chick they know. That's not a problem. The freaking problem is if you fall in love with them.
Now as to boinking your hot friend ... that you have to really play by ear. If she's counting on you to be her friend - that is going to mean - not trying to boink her - to her. If you try it and she's not receptive you can lose the friendship. The thing is - you're going to lose the friendship anyway when she finds a boy friend and no longer has time for you.
Now - what you really need to do - is to find someone else who is also hot and wants to boink you.
1) Get in shape. Go to the gym, work out, get the flab off. Make exercise a routine part of your life. Do like your mom said and - stand up straight. Good posture counts for a lot. Make holding your stomach in a natural part of your life.
2) Effect a clean cut appearance. Long or short doesn't matter but keep your hair and/or beard neatly trimmed.
3) Wear clean, new clothes. They don't need to be anything fancy - but they must be clean and new.
4) Make money. Chicks just freaking love money. Don't flash it - just have it.
5) Get a hot car. Chicks just freaking love hot cars.
Have a definite goal in life and be actively working towards it.
Nothing attracts chicks more than a man with confidence in himself and a purpose in life.
Don't let your "friend" waste your life. The years you have now - are not freaking coming back. Chicks just freaking love to have a bunch of little "friends" hanging on. It makes them feel more secure and enhances their ego - which they need to deal with the real bastards they have to deal with. A real bastard will play upon a chick's sense of inferiority to make himself seem better than she is - BSing her into looking up to him - so that she'll put out. You don't have to be a real bastard to get a cute chick - but - you do have to have the same amount of confidence in yourself that he does (or pretends he does). The difference between the bastard and a good guy is - when things go wrong for the bastard he gets furious as it's blowing his cover that he's always right. The good guy has confidence in who he is and where he's going in life and accepts that things aren't always going to work out perfectly. That's just one more thing he has to - confidently - deal with.
Be strong and healthy. Be good at your job. Know who you are and what you want out of life.
Do those things and you'll find a hot chick who wants to come along for the ride.
Don't do them and you can spend your youth being some hot chicks security blanket.
You are only going to be young - once - and once it's gone it's gone for good. Don't waste yourself. Go out and find some other hot chick to ball. If you have any chance with your "friend" that will make her jealous and give you that "other girl stamp of approval". If it doesn't - then you'll have that other hot chick to ball.
I also highlighted the parts that were totally hilarious. What the **** kind of image are you forcing yourself into?
Your cap ship deserves CPR's! |

Kravick Drasari
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Posted - 2009.02.02 13:28:00 -
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If these feelings are actually love and not just you wanting to bang her once or twice you have two options.
1.) Tell her about them and ask if she'd like to be more than friends. Make sure you do this when she doesn't already have a boyfriend or it will just complicate things. Chances are it won't work though because if she saw any interest in you other than just being "friends" you would already be dating. Still, it never hurts to try.
2.) Forget about her. By forget about her I mean completely isolate yourself from her. Stop hanging out, stop talking to her, stop having anything at all to do with her. Would probably be a good idea to tell her why so she doesn't flip out like most women usually do. You have to get her out of your head. This could take months, years, decades, or never. Depends on whether you find someone else or if these feelings are genuine and not just you wanting to bang her.
Doing nothing isn't an option. You will tear yourself to pieces by wasting your life on what ifs. The emotional bull**** isn't worth it. Make absolutely sure its actual love and not your ***** thinking shes hot before you say anything.
The chances are stacked against you, however, and will most likely end in disaster. If she rejects you, the friendship is definitely over. Men and women cannot "just be friends" unless there is absolutely no possible way the man could be attracted to the female due to her being ugly, having a deformity or handicap that turns the man off, already married (married or previously married women are a major turn off for me), or the man is gay. --- My cat Putter approves of this post. |

Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2009.02.02 14:17:00 -
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For those of you who agreed with me - you have my commiserations as you apparently know where of I speak ...
And yes ... there is some bitterness there ... not so much for the time spent ... as the time lost.
For Sokratesz ... First off, it really depends on what you mean by romance. I've heard women use the term to mean sex ... because women often won't say "sex" ... they just won't say it ... so they use some euphemism such as "romance" ... which can mean anything they want later on down the line. When men say it - they tend to mean they love the girl.
Now - if the OP really isn't in love with her - there isn't a problem. Having Sex without love isn't a problem. No sex and no love isn't a problem. But - no sex and one way love - is a problem ... for that mater ... one way love is a problem even if you are having sex with her ...
One way love is what it sounds like the OP's situation is to me, he's just BSing himself about it. If I'm wrong - like I said - there isn't a problem.
As to the type of image I'm talking about - that is an image that will first off make most men happier with themselves and that, secondly, will in turn attract chicks, as much because you are happier with yourself as because of the "image" your attitude projects.
If you don't agree - then by all means do things your way as - it's certainly not me who's going to suffer the consequences.
Lastly of course - it can't just be an image, even if it is what you project. You have to make these things part of who you are and live them. If it's just an image to you - she'll see through it sooner or later and ... lets just hope there aren't children involved when she does.
Faction Schools Orbiting vs. Kiting |

Thargat
Caldari North Star Networks Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2009.02.02 14:22:00 -
[27]
Dude, the forums of a MMO are hardly the place to go to when you need advice about girls.  Aaaaanyhow: Ask yourself this about the woman in question. "Can I do better?". If the answer is yes then don't risk the friendship. If the answer is no then you don't have a choice but to try (your brain and groin have already made up their mind about it). Breathing 0.0 |

Jacob Mei
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Posted - 2009.02.02 15:13:00 -
[28]
Edited by: Jacob Mei on 02/02/2009 15:13:23
Originally by: Toshiro GreyHawk
Originally by: Brigadier Kwozi
Crazy stuff that makes disturbing sense.
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Its disturbing how for all out generations of culture, progress and so forth getting a mate is still nothing more than postering, offering gifts and being a so called Alpha male at at the very least the illusion of power. We've been to the moon, split the atom, millions if not billions of us fly dayily and nearly each nation has built towers of glass, iron and stone so tall as to litterally pierce the clouds that would make even the most gifted ancient Roman archtect crap his pants if he saw the blueprints alone yet when it comes to attracting a mate we're still pretty much in the trees exchanging pieces of fruit for sex.... -------------------------------- To borrow a phrase:
Players who post are like stars, there are bright ones and those who are dim.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.02.02 15:30:00 -
[29]
Originally by: Brigadier Kwozi I'm single. My best friend is a woman my age. I have romantic feelings for her and we have talked about it, she's cool with me since all I really want is friendship too.
Are you absolutely, 100% sure you WANT to just be friends ? And that she's a good enough friend ?
Quote: But here's the kicker: She's really really hot, and I she tends to end up in my *wink* *wink* fantasies. Even though I would never do anything to jeopardize my friendship with her in real life.
"Yeah, hey, Jen... funny thing I gotta' tell you about... had a dream last night, and you were in it... uh, boy, were you hot... oh, yeah, THAT kind of dream... well, can you blame me ?" If she can't handle that, she's got no sense of humour.
_ Create a character || Fit a ship || Get some ISK |

Jenny Spitfire
Caldari LoneStar Industries FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2009.02.02 15:39:00 -
[30]
Be a man aand tell her you like her.  |

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar MasterBlasters Inc. CORPVS DELICTI
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Posted - 2009.02.02 15:44:00 -
[31]
This problem can be solved with a bottle of Jack and a funnel
---------------------- Putting the sensual in nonconsensual
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Karrade Krise
Galatic P0RN Starz
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Posted - 2009.02.02 16:33:00 -
[32]
"Sir! We're entering the friend zone!"
"Abort! Get us turned arround quick!"
"No use sir, I'm at deadstick! It's like we're being sucked in!"
"Reverse engines! See if we can back straight up."
"Uh...I've got a problem here. Engines wont shut down, they're...they're powering up!!"
"Full flaps! Kill the Reactor! "
"Nothing is responding Captain!"
"It appears we're not leaving this friend zone people...We're not going anywhere in this mess...F*cking blackhole..."
CCP Atlas - The Short Story - "With Quantum Rise, we kind of messed up the performance of the EVE client."
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Cherybol
Caldari Es and Whizz Hedonistic Imperative
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Posted - 2009.02.02 22:07:00 -
[33]
Edited by: Cherybol on 02/02/2009 22:07:07 If in the friendzone, there still CAN be good from it all.
Its called the "wang in a glass case." theory.
Break in case of emergency. |

Verone
Gallente Veto Corp
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Posted - 2009.02.02 22:08:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Toshiro GreyHawk
Originally by: Brigadier Kwozi
I'm single. My best friend is a woman my age. I have romantic feelings for her and we have talked about it, she's cool with me since all I really want is friendship too.
But here's the kicker: She's really really hot, and I she tends to end up in my *wink* *wink* fantasies. Even though I would never do anything to jeopardize my friendship with her in real life.
Am I doing a wrong here?
I know it's a silly question... but I don't know the answer
OK. This is what you do.
First, stop bull ****ting your self that you aren't in love with her. If you have Romantic feelings for her - you're freaking in love with her. THAT is the problem.
Now - if you weren't in love with her and you were just friends and she was hot - then of course you'd be thinking about boinking her. All guys do that with any hot chick they know. That's not a problem. The freaking problem is if you fall in love with them.
Now as to boinking your hot friend ... that you have to really play by ear. If she's counting on you to be her friend - that is going to mean - not trying to boink her - to her. If you try it and she's not receptive you can lose the friendship. The thing is - you're going to lose the friendship anyway when she finds a boy friend and no longer has time for you.
Now - what you really need to do - is to find someone else who is also hot and wants to boink you.
1) Get in shape. Go to the gym, work out, get the flab off. Make exercise a routine part of your life. Do like your mom said and - stand up straight. Good posture counts for a lot. Make holding your stomach in a natural part of your life.
2) Effect a clean cut appearance. Long or short doesn't matter but keep your hair and/or beard neatly trimmed.
3) Wear clean, new clothes. They don't need to be anything fancy - but they must be clean and new.
4) Make money. Chicks just freaking love money. Don't flash it - just have it.
5) Get a hot car. Chicks just freaking love hot cars.
Have a definite goal in life and be actively working towards it.
Nothing attracts chicks more than a man with confidence in himself and a purpose in life.
Don't let your "friend" waste your life. The years you have now - are not freaking coming back. Chicks just freaking love to have a bunch of little "friends" hanging on. It makes them feel more secure and enhances their ego - which they need to deal with the real bastards they have to deal with. A real bastard will play upon a chick's sense of inferiority to make himself seem better than she is - BSing her into looking up to him - so that she'll put out. You don't have to be a real bastard to get a cute chick - but - you do have to have the same amount of confidence in yourself that he does (or pretends he does). The difference between the bastard and a good guy is - when things go wrong for the bastard he gets furious as it's blowing his cover that he's always right. The good guy has confidence in who he is and where he's going in life and accepts that things aren't always going to work out perfectly. That's just one more thing he has to - confidently - deal with.
Be strong and healthy. Be good at your job. Know who you are and what you want out of life.
Do those things and you'll find a hot chick who wants to come along for the ride.
Don't do them and you can spend your youth being some hot chicks security blanket.
You are only going to be young - once - and once it's gone it's gone for good. Don't waste yourself. Go out and find some other hot chick to ball. If you have any chance with your "friend" that will make her jealous and give you that "other girl stamp of approval". If it doesn't - then you'll have that other hot chick to ball.
lol, you're so fundementally wrong I don't even know where to start pulling this post apart.
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Northern Fall
Minmatar Guild Navy
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Posted - 2009.02.02 22:21:00 -
[35]
Hell, some couples are each others best friends and parters
go get 'er  |

Terianna Eri
Amarr Scrutari
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Posted - 2009.02.02 23:29:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Be a man aand tell her you like her. 
^^
Worked for me  |

Qui Shon
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Posted - 2009.02.03 00:16:00 -
[37]
Edited by: Qui Shon on 03/02/2009 00:19:26
Nah, being in the friend zone is not always bad, like when the woman is smart but not so pretty, i.e. when you definitely don't want any action. If she's pretty, forget about it, it'll just be frustrating.
Why not just stick to guy frends? Well, for variety, if nothing else. A platonic female friend can provide a different perspective and good insight at times.
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cpt Mark
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Posted - 2009.02.03 00:27:00 -
[38]
Yeh just tell her you like her, and if nothing happens find someone else.
If you can't find someone else, don't be her best friend anymore.
Or try and think of as many reasons as you can about why she isn't actually that attractive and why she is just a *****.
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Rondo Gunn
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2009.02.03 00:29:00 -
[39]
I'll tell you what you need to do you need to dump that zero and get yourself a hero mmhmmmm.
But, seriously, either hit it or quit it, girls aren't friends they're objects that you collect and keep at a safe distance because they're emotional vampires hell bent on sucking you dry, and not in a good way either. And yes, girls, not women. So many of you are so needy and useless all you're good for is to lay there and look pretty. |

Olleybear
The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.02.03 01:18:00 -
[40]
Quote: ...she tends to end up in my *wink* *wink* fantasies... Am I doing a wrong here? ...
Not at all. Like others have said, there is nothing wrong with it.
Quote: ...I have romantic feelings for her...
Thats the dangerous part for you. Thats beyond wanting to boinc her or just fantisize about her.
For your own sake, get rid of your romantic feelings for her. You are going to end up crushed if you dont.
What she wants from you is a husband/boyfriend without the sex part. For instance, she wants to call you up boo-hooing whenever she wants. And of course you'll be there, hoping in vain that someday, if your patient enough, she will see you that you have been there for her and she should be with you.
She already does see that your there for her. The problem also is, she still isn't going to want more.
Treat her and feel about her the way you would a guy. Then you might have a chance of being a true friend and not get crushed when she passes you up yet again!!!
Trust me, I know first hand what I am talking about. Good luck.
<<< From one warrior to another: Whether you fight with me or against me, the willingness to fight makes us brothers. >>> |

Jake Silence
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Posted - 2009.02.03 02:19:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Be a man aand tell her you like her. 
This post was too comprehensible.
Jenny must have been sold on.
Again. |

Karrade Krise
Galatic P0RN Starz
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Posted - 2009.02.03 02:29:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Jake Silence
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Be a man aand tell her you like her. 
This post was too comprehensible.
Jenny must have been sold on.
Again.
Ooh! I've always been a fanboi of slavery and human trafficing! Can I bid? Can I? Can I? Can I? Pleeeeease? Want. Want. GIMME! GIMME! *whimpers*
CCP Atlas - The Short Story - "With Quantum Rise, we kind of messed up the performance of the EVE client."
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DuffmanPeter
Perpetua Umbra The Last Brigade
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Posted - 2009.02.03 03:25:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Spaztick Edited by: Spaztick on 02/02/2009 06:15:16 Read this. You'll thank me later.
If you don't feel like reading it, then you are making a costly mistake and you have only yourself to blame, but I'll sum it up for you:
You're boned (not by her, I mean in a bad way), get on with it, either make a move on her, never talk to her again or find someone else.
The sad part is a lot of what that article says is true. Funny that being nice gets you shafted. For the poster, dont be a friend. It just gives you a lot of pain. Even if you tell her you like her and she wants to be friends. Dont agree to this, it never works out and your feelings remain. I have had it happen a lot to me. It sucks but ignoring her makes it easier.
The article is right in one respect. A man cant be friends with an attractive woman without wanting more. Also I am hoping that not all women are idiots like that article explains and maybe there are still some good women out there. It is sad when being cold and an idiot to a woman makes her like you more. Nice guys finish last... |

Atomos Darksun
Damage Incorporated.
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Posted - 2009.02.03 03:26:00 -
[44]
You all are stupid as ****.
OP asked one simple question and y'all go on love rants. Jesus. Back off, not like he should in his right mind take advice from any of us anyways.
And what goes on in your head is your business, she doesn't need to know. If you feel bad about it, just watch ****. |

Rondo Gunn
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2009.02.03 03:32:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Atomos Darksun You all are stupid as ****.
No u are!
yeah I said it... |

Karrade Krise
Galatic P0RN Starz
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Posted - 2009.02.03 03:45:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Atomos Darksun You all are stupid as ****.
OP asked one simple question and y'all go on love rants.
I hate love rants as well, it never seems to end with your mom.
j/k don't hurt me!
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Spaztick
Canadian Imperial Armaments Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2009.02.03 04:33:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Atomos Darksun You all are stupid as ****.
OP asked one simple question and y'all go on love rants. Jesus. Back off, not like he should in his right mind take advice from any of us anyways.
And what goes on in your head is your business, she doesn't need to know. If you feel bad about it, just watch ****.
ATMOS IS RAGING EVERYONE TAKE COVER |

Tractus Vesica
Caldari Atrum Flamma Order of the Black Dragons
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Posted - 2009.02.03 04:38:00 -
[48]
Love is a lie. |

Atomos Darksun
Damage Incorporated.
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Posted - 2009.02.03 04:48:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Rondo Gunn
Originally by: Atomos Darksun You all are stupid as ****.
No u are!
yeah I said it...
No U
(you did it wrong) |

Rondo Gunn
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2009.02.03 05:00:00 -
[50]
Yeah yeah I know.  ----------------------------------------------- shin ku myo u
Please note: Everything I say is flavored with irony, cynicism and, of course, minty freshness. |

Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
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Posted - 2009.02.03 06:47:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Tractus Vesica Love is a lie.
After eight years of marriage I can confirm your post is a lie. |

Spaztick
Canadian Imperial Armaments Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2009.02.03 07:31:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Tractus Vesica Love is a lie.
Sounds like textbook mommy issues to me! After all, everyone needs some type of spacer in their sigs to show it's not part of the post.
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2009.02.03 11:46:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Sokratesz Edited by: Sokratesz on 02/02/2009 10:52:40
Originally by: Toshiro GreyHawk
First, stop bull ****ting your self that you aren't in love with her. If you have Romantic feelings for her - you're freaking in love with her. THAT is the problem.
Disagreed strongly. I've had romantic feelings for women whom I definitely wasn't in love with at the time. It's just instinct, you see an attractive member of the opposite sex, your natural response is to want to have sex with that person.
Unless they have offputting characteristics like being a smoker, anorexic and have an annoying laugh, other than that cute as can be. I found that friend attractive at times sure but never to the point that I had to have her.
Delenda est achura. |

ForumIdeaAlt
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Posted - 2009.02.03 11:55:00 -
[54]
tbh, if u have felinsg, persue them, because tbh, ive dated a few girls who just *wanted to be friends* and i ended up marrying a girl who was adamant that she *just wanted to eb friends*
follow ur feel;ings, not ur morals ::P
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TraininVain
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Posted - 2009.02.03 12:08:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Brigadier Kwozi
I'm single. My best friend is a woman my age. I have romantic feelings for her and we have talked about it, she's cool with me since all I really want is friendship too.
But here's the kicker: She's really really hot, and I she tends to end up in my *wink* *wink* fantasies. Even though I would never do anything to jeopardize my friendship with her in real life.
Am I doing a wrong here?
I know it's a silly question... but I don't know the answer
Jeopardize your friendship? Twaddle.
But as to your question it's possibly something you should avoid in case it contributes to you developing actual feelings. |

Zora Xen
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Posted - 2009.02.03 12:13:00 -
[56]
Edited by: Zora Xen on 03/02/2009 12:18:22 If you do choose to make your feelings known to her don't come on too strong or it might scare her away.
Make some time to spend alone with her, perhaps make her dinner (not movies, you gotta talk) and see whether she is willing to open up more to you.
If she does not reciprocate your interest, or is less enthusiastic about spending more one-on-one time you know where you stand.
Although rejection can be painful, most old people report feeling regret about the risks they did not take rather than the ones they did. So go get 'em tiger.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.02.03 12:58:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Tractus Vesica Love is a lie.
Definition: 'Love' is making a shot to the knees of a target 120 kilometers away using an Aratech sniper rifle with a tri-light scope. Statement: This definition, I am told, is subject to interpretation. Obviously, love is a matter of odds. Not many meatbags could make such a shot, and fewer would derive love from it. Yet for me, love is knowing your target, putting them in your targeting reticle, and together, achieving a singular purpose, against statistically long odds.
_ Create a character || Fit a ship || Get some ISK |

Zora Xen
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Posted - 2009.02.03 13:32:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Tractus Vesica Love is a lie.
Definition: 'Love' is making a shot to the knees of a target 120 kilometers away using an Aratech sniper rifle with a tri-light scope. Statement: This definition, I am told, is subject to interpretation. Obviously, love is a matter of odds. Not many meatbags could make such a shot, and fewer would derive love from it. Yet for me, love is knowing your target, putting them in your targeting reticle, and together, achieving a singular purpose, against statistically long odds.
Who knew love could be found at the end of a sniper rifle 
Leave it to gamers to metaphorically equate a snipe...oh nevermind.
Headshot!
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.02.03 16:09:00 -
[59]
Zora, never played KotOR, have you ?  _ Create a character || Fit a ship || Get some ISK |

goodby4u
Valor Inc.
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Posted - 2009.02.03 16:57:00 -
[60]
Just tell her your feelings and see what happens, worse comes to worse she would think your joking and you'll have to live with it.(same as before)
But at best youve got yourself a new girlfriend. |

Straight Chillen
Gallente The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.02.03 17:38:00 -
[61]
Speaking from personal experience, its probably not a great idea, but then again its life, you live and you learn.
So go make a mistake, youll enjoy it Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint |

kor anon
Amarr The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.02.03 19:23:00 -
[62]
Theres nothing wrong with being attacted to someone.
Ask her out, theres three possible outcomes:
1. She says yes. Congratulations. 2. She declines, but you stay freinds. 3. She declines and refuses to remain freinds. If thats the case she wasn't that good of a freind in the first place. Find better freinds.
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ReaperOfSly
Gallente Zetsubou Corp
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Posted - 2009.02.03 19:32:00 -
[63]
Edited by: ReaperOfSly on 03/02/2009 19:32:44 On second thought, I don't want o get banned |

Rob Z0mbie
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Posted - 2009.02.03 22:44:00 -
[64]
Edited by: Rob Z0mbie on 03/02/2009 22:45:10
Originally by: Brigadier Kwozi
she's cool with me since all I really want is friendship too.
This is what's wrong with you. You've let her (and yourself) believe that all you want is friendship, Sorry matey, but that's a sign of shyness and\or weak character.
She's a girl, you're a boy, attraction is normal, ask her out on a date properly. And don't act all metro and pretend its ok to stay as it is.
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Rob Z0mbie
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Posted - 2009.02.03 22:54:00 -
[65]
oh and spend some time meditating on it, don't let it show as if you're insecure. Insecurity is the source of "friend zone".
No one likes to feel incompetent.
The way to do it? make sure you're dressed nice and shaven, not all hobo style. Have a great time with her, then tell her how you feel as calmly as as securely as you can (yes, i know, its not easy to pull off, but do try still)
Personally i have a "friend", and we're only friends because both of us are scared****less of relationships, and im leaving the country in 6-7 months so she doesn't want her heart breaking.
That said, we meet once or twice a week, watch movies together, drink, play the guitar AND fool around.
the thing is in my case though, i've let her know since day one that I'm attracted, and didn't **** about telling her i want to be platonic. Having something beyond the physical only makes a relationship better, tbh.
You and her already got a friendship, it wouldn't be too difficult to turn things around, you just need to behave in a secure manner, and not look like a whimp :)
If she says no, she's keeping you as a pet while ****ing some other guy who let her know first he's in into her for the sex :P in that case, well,
how good of a \friend\ is she :) if its a young friendship tbh i'd opt for terminating, if its a 1-2 year one, go on with your life, and get a girlfriend. |

Master Gotama
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Posted - 2009.02.03 23:20:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Toshiro GreyHawk
Originally by: Brigadier Kwozi
I'm single. My best friend is a woman my age. I have romantic feelings for her and we have talked about it, she's cool with me since all I really want is friendship too.
But here's the kicker: She's really really hot, and I she tends to end up in my *wink* *wink* fantasies. Even though I would never do anything to jeopardize my friendship with her in real life.
Am I doing a wrong here?
I know it's a silly question... but I don't know the answer
OK. This is what you do.
First, stop bull ****ting your self that you aren't in love with her. If you have Romantic feelings for her - you're freaking in love with her. THAT is the problem.
Now - if you weren't in love with her and you were just friends and she was hot - then of course you'd be thinking about boinking her. All guys do that with any hot chick they know. That's not a problem. The freaking problem is if you fall in love with them.
Now as to boinking your hot friend ... that you have to really play by ear. If she's counting on you to be her friend - that is going to mean - not trying to boink her - to her. If you try it and she's not receptive you can lose the friendship. The thing is - you're going to lose the friendship anyway when she finds a boy friend and no longer has time for you.
Now - what you really need to do - is to find someone else who is also hot and wants to boink you.
1) Get in shape. Go to the gym, work out, get the flab off. Make exercise a routine part of your life. Do like your mom said and - stand up straight. Good posture counts for a lot. Make holding your stomach in a natural part of your life.
2) Effect a clean cut appearance. Long or short doesn't matter but keep your hair and/or beard neatly trimmed.
3) Wear clean, new clothes. They don't need to be anything fancy - but they must be clean and new.
4) Make money. Chicks just freaking love money. Don't flash it - just have it.
5) Get a hot car. Chicks just freaking love hot cars.
Have a definite goal in life and be actively working towards it.
Nothing attracts chicks more than a man with confidence in himself and a purpose in life.
Don't let your "friend" waste your life. The years you have now - are not freaking coming back. Chicks just freaking love to have a bunch of little "friends" hanging on. It makes them feel more secure and enhances their ego - which they need to deal with the real bastards they have to deal with. A real bastard will play upon a chick's sense of inferiority to make himself seem better than she is - BSing her into looking up to him - so that she'll put out. You don't have to be a real bastard to get a cute chick - but - you do have to have the same amount of confidence in yourself that he does (or pretends he does). The difference between the bastard and a good guy is - when things go wrong for the bastard he gets furious as it's blowing his cover that he's always right. The good guy has confidence in who he is and where he's going in life and accepts that things aren't always going to work out perfectly. That's just one more thing he has to - confidently - deal with.
Be strong and healthy. Be good at your job. Know who you are and what you want out of life.
Do those things and you'll find a hot chick who wants to come along for the ride.
Don't do them and you can spend your youth being some hot chicks security blanket.
You are only going to be young - once - and once it's gone it's gone for good. Don't waste yourself. Go out and find some other hot chick to ball. If you have any chance with your "friend" that will make her jealous and give you that "other girl stamp of approval". If it doesn't - then you'll have that other hot chick to ball.
tried and true, this man speaketh the truth. success is very attractive, as is confidence. tell her how you feel, if she isn't interested, focus on yourself. |

Cierejai
Caldari BlackSite Prophecy
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Posted - 2009.02.03 23:53:00 -
[67]
If you want to get with her you will have to get with her friends first. That will bring on jealously.
And you have to be REALLY GOOD in the sack. When her friends brag about how many orgasms they have she will start to warm up to you if you are keeping the relationship with her friends casual. |

Ralf Smith
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Posted - 2009.02.04 00:01:00 -
[68]
Tell her that you really like her and you want to know how she feels. If she is worried about that friendship bullcrap, then make a 'pact' to be friends forever, or something along the lines of a 'pinky swear' seeing as you are probably around 14 years old.
It a far to common situation. Females should realise that its alot easier to listen to them talk about their cat while they are naked. |

Aricaan
Gallente Playboy Enterprises Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2009.02.04 00:16:00 -
[69]
Hit it and quit it. |

David Kang
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Posted - 2009.02.04 00:18:00 -
[70]
I wouldn't bother
Female wingmen are a far more practical social tool.
Find another girl.
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Crayon Fusillade
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Posted - 2009.02.04 00:24:00 -
[71]
Something to think about.
I've been there and in a much worse situation than you. It was the best and worst time of my entire life.
My advice, if you feel strongly for her, and particularly if she's single, make a proper move on her early on. If she says yes, you win. If she says no, don't give up straight away...
You could try, as I was advised, to get another girlfriend and then cut down on the time you spend with the girl. The obvious results are that if it makes her jealous enough, you've got her, and if it doesn't, you've still got a girlfriend.
If you do like her a lot, when you see her in other relationships, it will hurt, a lot. The precise moment you have that first inkling of a feeling, however fleeting, that just maybe, this isn't worth the heartache, I would strongly suggest, stop meeting her, break off contact for the foreseeable future and don't look back. It will seem like a ridiculous step to take considering how great your friendship is, but seriously, the odds are it's not going to happen.
At that point it's just a case of whether you're a gambling man and are willing to put your money on a horse that probably won't come in, but on occasion, as some posters here I'm sure will attest to, actually does.
I lost. |

Tractus Vesica
Caldari Atrum Flamma Order of the Black Dragons
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Posted - 2009.02.04 02:02:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Super Whopper
Originally by: Tractus Vesica Love is a lie.
After eight years of marriage I can confirm your post is a lie.
Eight years, what an accomplishment. Only the rest of your life, chained to some other human. Tell me.
What more is love than the dressed up urge to reproduce, and a desire to feel cared about? |

Rondo Gunn
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2009.02.04 02:18:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Tractus Vesica What more is love than the dressed up urge to reproduce, and a desire to feel cared about?
A cooperative relationship founded on trust, friendship and mutual physical attraction?
Then again, it could just be gas. ----------------------------------------------- shin ku myo u
Please note: Everything I say is flavored with irony, cynicism and, of course, minty freshness. |

Atomos Darksun
Damage Incorporated.
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Posted - 2009.02.04 02:30:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Rondo Gunn Then again, it could just be gas.
Or a tumor. |

Ralf Smith
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Posted - 2009.02.04 02:30:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Crayon Fusillade Something to think about.
I've been there and in a much worse situation than you. It was the best and worst time of my entire life.
My advice, if you feel strongly for her, and particularly if she's single, make a proper move on her early on. If she says yes, you win. If she says no, don't give up straight away...
You could try, as I was advised, to get another girlfriend and then cut down on the time you spend with the girl. The obvious results are that if it makes her jealous enough, you've got her, and if it doesn't, you've still got a girlfriend.
If you do like her a lot, when you see her in other relationships, it will hurt, a lot. The precise moment you have that first inkling of a feeling, however fleeting, that just maybe, this isn't worth the heartache, I would strongly suggest, stop meeting her, break off contact for the foreseeable future and don't look back. It will seem like a ridiculous step to take considering how great your friendship is, but seriously, the odds are it's not going to happen.
At that point it's just a case of whether you're a gambling man and are willing to put your money on a horse that probably won't come in, but on occasion, as some posters here I'm sure will attest to, actually does.
I lost.
It would be morally wrong to get a gf just to make another girl jealous.
However, I just had this idea... Wait till you are sure she is single, and has been single for a few weeks/monthsThen do something really romantic like, but not along the lines of "I love you" just yet.If she starts reacting pretty well and stuff, ask her out, in a gentlemen, poetic sort of way.
Or there always is alchohol. |

Lochmar Fiendhiem
Caldari Quicksilver Industries and Painful Effects Inc.
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Posted - 2009.02.04 02:45:00 -
[76]
step 1: get her drunk step 2: ??? step 3: profit. |

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar MasterBlasters Inc. CORPVS DELICTI
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Posted - 2009.02.04 03:04:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Lochmar Fiendhiem step 1: get her drunk step 2: ??? step 3: profit.
If she's on her period make sure you use a condom... learned that the hard way 
---------------------- Putting the sensual in nonconsensual
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2009.02.04 03:08:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Sokratesz
I also highlighted the parts that were totally hilarious. What the **** kind of image are you forcing yourself into?
whats wrong with
Have a definite goal in life and be actively working towards it.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2009.02.04 03:25:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
Originally by: Lochmar Fiendhiem step 1: get her drunk step 2: ??? step 3: profit.
If she's on her period make sure you use a condom... learned that the hard way 
I'm so sorry :(
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Digital Solaris
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Posted - 2009.02.04 04:29:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
If she's on her period make sure you use a condom... learned that the hard way 
Grats.. dad! |

Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2009.02.04 04:32:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
Originally by: Lochmar Fiendhiem step 1: get her drunk step 2: ??? step 3: profit.
If she's on her period make sure you use a condom... learned that the hard way 
sounds messy  |

HankMurphy
Minmatar Pelennor Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.02.04 05:19:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Lochmar Fiendhiem step 1: get her drunk step 2: ??? step 3: profit.
this
put the spurs to 'er doc! ---------- "This is Chopper Dave's made for TV movie, Blades Of Vengeance. See, he's a chopper pilot by day, but by night he fights crime as a werewolf... YEAH!" |

Atama Cardel
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.02.04 05:31:00 -
[83]
Asking for dating advice on an MMORPG is like asking Michael Jackson for advice on how to be more black.
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Spaztick
Canadian Imperial Armaments Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2009.02.04 05:47:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Atama Cardel Asking for dating advice on an MMORPG is like asking Michael Jackson for advice on how to be more black.
All the black people I know are pretty white, so I guess it's not too bad advice as long as you take it with a grain of salt. Or several. After all, everyone needs some type of spacer in their sigs to show it's not part of the post.
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Reven Cordelle
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.02.04 09:53:00 -
[85]
You're a man. She's a woman.
Failing to see how you'd be doing wrong.
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Slade Trillgon
Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.02.04 10:30:00 -
[86]
Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 04/02/2009 10:33:52 If it is just physical attraction then nothing is wrong with it. If it is the begginings of love then problems could be on the rise or you could be headed to fruitfull relationship. It just depends on how you play it.
An addendum would be it is possible to have a physical relationship, without a societal bond, if both parties are mature about it.
Originally by: Digital Solaris
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
If she's on her period make sure you use a condom... learned that the hard way 
Grats.. dad!
Biologically impossible
I retract the above statement. I may have proven myself wrong 
Slade
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Kur'Dekaija
Atomic Heroes Chain of Chaos
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Posted - 2009.02.04 12:54:00 -
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Edited by: Kur''Dekaija on 04/02/2009 12:54:01 You're doing nothing wrong dude, your fap material is your own business 
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Tractus Vesica
Caldari Atrum Flamma Order of the Black Dragons
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Posted - 2009.02.04 18:03:00 -
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Originally by: Spaztick
Originally by: Atama Cardel Asking for dating advice on an MMORPG is like asking Michael Jackson for advice on how to be more black.
All the black people I know are pretty white, so I guess it's not too bad advice as long as you take it with a grain of salt. Or several.
EVE is the mmorpg for smart people. If you want idiots. Go play WoW. EVE pilots tend to be somewhat more logical than other games. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
If you aren't prepared to fight for your freedom, you do not deserve it.
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kor anon
Amarr The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.02.04 18:04:00 -
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Originally by: Tractus Vesica
Originally by: Spaztick
Originally by: Atama Cardel Asking for dating advice on an MMORPG is like asking Michael Jackson for advice on how to be more black.
All the black people I know are pretty white, so I guess it's not too bad advice as long as you take it with a grain of salt. Or several.
EVE is the mmorpg for smart people. If you want idiots. Go play WoW. EVE pilots tend to be somewhat more logical than other games.
That cant be true I play EVE rather than wow
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Tractus Vesica
Caldari Atrum Flamma Order of the Black Dragons
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Posted - 2009.02.04 18:07:00 -
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Edited by: Tractus Vesica on 04/02/2009 18:07:37
Originally by: kor anon
Originally by: Tractus Vesica
Originally by: Spaztick
Originally by: Atama Cardel Asking for dating advice on an MMORPG is like asking Michael Jackson for advice on how to be more black.
All the black people I know are pretty white, so I guess it's not too bad advice as long as you take it with a grain of salt. Or several.
EVE is the mmorpg for smart people. If you want idiots. Go play WoW. EVE pilots tend to be somewhat more logical than other games.
That cant be true I play EVE rather than wow
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If you aren't prepared to fight for your freedom, you do not deserve it.
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The Jawbreaker
Minmatar Debitum Naturae
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Posted - 2009.02.04 19:30:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
Originally by: Lochmar Fiendhiem step 1: get her drunk step 2: ??? step 3: profit.
If she's on her period make sure you use a condom... learned that the hard way 
so you did stick your schlong in the red hole... i can top that coz i accidently went down on an old gf when she had her period 
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David Kang
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Posted - 2009.02.05 19:42:00 -
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Originally by: The Jawbreaker
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
Originally by: Lochmar Fiendhiem step 1: get her drunk step 2: ??? step 3: profit.
If she's on her period make sure you use a condom... learned that the hard way 
so you did stick your schlong in the red hole... i can top that coz i accidently went down on an old gf when she had her period 
Nice of her to tell you.
Although that assumes one ex gold friend was awake.
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kor anon
Amarr The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.02.05 19:51:00 -
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Originally by: David Kang
Originally by: The Jawbreaker
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
Originally by: Lochmar Fiendhiem step 1: get her drunk step 2: ??? step 3: profit.
If she's on her period make sure you use a condom... learned that the hard way 
so you did stick your schlong in the red hole... i can top that coz i accidently went down on an old gf when she had her period 
Nice of her to tell you.
Although that assumes one ex gold friend was awake.
Had this happen to a freind, He picked up a girl at a club and she didnt warn him. They went back to hers, and he went down on her. 10 seconds later he stood up wiped his mouth and walked out without a word.  |

Slade Trillgon
Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.02.05 21:12:00 -
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Originally by: kor anon
Had this happen to a freind, He picked up a girl at a club and she didnt warn him. They went back to hers, and he went down on her. 10 seconds later he stood up wiped his mouth and walked out without a word. 
I almost did that with a friend at the last party me and my roomates through in college. Luckily my friend was courteous enough to stop me.
The above mentioned is a better man then I.
Slade
Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
Please go sit in the corner, and dont forget to don the shame-on-you-hat!
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Dantes Revenge
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.02.05 22:21:00 -
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To the OP. The actual answer is dependant on your own integrity.
In most cases, it is quite normal and I have several female friends that I would bone to death if given the chance. On the other hand, it's all about your ability to differentiate reality from fantasy. As long as there is a definite line between the two, it may be hard to see them with other guys but the rules of engagement have been set and you have to stick to them. If you can't, it's time to say goodbye. Don't just disappear unless you're moving to a new town some distance away but see her less and less until finally you just stop completely, that makes it less distressing on both sides.
If you can handle it, stay friends and one day she may decide that she wants more simply because you're always the one that's there for her, you always help her to pick up the pieces. Be warned that this would lead to a full time commitment rather than a casual fumble in bed for one night though. If you would really want a proper relationship with her, friendship is always the way to go since being there when she needs you shows you really do care.
The ladder principle linked by another poster shows only initial attraction. Relationships based on this rarely last long as the novelty wears off on either one side or the other. For example: when she starts to put on weight or starts to show her age, he's looking for a newer model.
Relationships that last begin with the realisation that someone really cares, especially for a woman. A guy who will sit and listen to her cry out all her sorrows on his shoulder and give comforting words is often seen as a guy to keep hold of. We all need emotional stability more than we do financial stability and the guy who wins is often the one that can stay the course through all her lows and help lift her up again. The guy with the fat wallet has gone out drinking in the hope that she'll be feeling better by the time he gets back so he doesn't have to face it.
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JordanParey
Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2009.02.06 04:56:00 -
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Originally by: kor anon
Had this happen to a freind, He picked up a girl at a club and she didnt warn him. They went back to hers, and he went down on her. 10 seconds later he stood up wiped his mouth and walked out without a word. 
What did one lesbian vampire say to the other?
"See you next month."
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar MasterBlasters Inc. CORPVS DELICTI
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Posted - 2009.02.06 05:20:00 -
[97]
In my defense... I was horny 
---------------------- Putting the sensual in nonconsensual
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Highwind Cid
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Posted - 2009.02.06 05:36:00 -
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Edited by: Highwind Cid on 06/02/2009 05:37:13 Watch this ten times a day for the next three weeks.
OR (EVEN BETTER)
watch this twenty times a day for one week.
Then tell her you just lied!
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rValdez5987
Amarr 32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment.
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Posted - 2009.02.06 08:04:00 -
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Originally by: Spaztick Edited by: Spaztick on 02/02/2009 06:15:16 Read this. You'll thank me later.
If you don't feel like reading it, then you are making a costly mistake and you have only yourself to blame, but I'll sum it up for you:
You're boned (not by her, I mean in a bad way), get on with it, either make a move on her, never talk to her again or find someone else.
Quote: IF A MAN FINDS YOU ATTRACTIVE YOU CANNOT BE FRIENDS
Many women want to argue this point and say things like " I have lots of guy friends." Maybe. There are exactly 3 cases Intellectual *****s has identified whereby a guy and a girl can be friends:
1. The guy is gay 2. The guy does not find you attractive 3. The guy already has a woman much higher than you on the ladder
Wow I must be gay then... I have several female friends who im told are attractive but i dont look at them with sex or lust in mind. My friendship with them is no different then any male friendship.
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xGradiusx
Minmatar Shoot To Thrill Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2009.02.06 10:09:00 -
[100]
Tap that ass.
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Dr Karsun
Gallente Integrity.
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Posted - 2009.02.06 11:03:00 -
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Apart from feeling that asking this question here won't get you right anwsers I'll give you my piece of advice.
Tell her. As others have written.
For Gods sake, if she likes you, she'll at worst get confused. At best, you'll live happily ever after.
What have you got to lose? Don't tear your self to pieces by not doing anything. ------------------------
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Brigadier Kwozi
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Posted - 2009.02.07 05:07:00 -
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Thank you all for all the great advice (and the terrible ones too), I appreciate it. I guess I got the answer to my question somewhere in the beginning of the first page. But somehow so many of you guys seem to have been confused with my situation. For the benefit of those who are or may go through the same thing as I have, let me explain.
For the reasons of anonymity, I'll call my friend Liz. We have worked together for about 4 years now(fast food res). About a couple of years ago, she got promoted to assistant manager(we were both supervisors). While I was really happy for her, there were some other people that were really against it. Because while she is a very sweet person outside of work, she is a real ***** on the job, and proud of it.
While some of us were OK with the way she worked, most people were not. Senior management were constantly getting complaints from staff about her roughness toward staff. Those of us who knew her for while knew that this is just the way she worked, and that she's not using her "powers" to abuse people. I was OK with her ways too, since she knows how to get the job done; there were more than a few times that I learned a lot from her.
Anyways around the same time I started giving her rides to and from work. This is when I really got to know her, inside out, and we would talk about anything and everything. Sometimes We would be fighting all day at work, but when our shift was over, we would drop all that and be like best buds again.
So after a while we started going out(as friends), clubbing, hanging out at her place for family functions, etc. (I already knew her family before I even started working with her, but that's another story.) But after a while of this, I realized that I was having feelings for her. After a while of debating with myself, I decided to tell her the truth.
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Brigadier Kwozi
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Posted - 2009.02.07 05:07:00 -
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So I met up with her one day after work, and I told her the whole thing. She was startled at first, but she took it really well. She said that it happens to her all the time(yes she's a little bit of a diva), and she was actually giggling in a really cute way, I still remember. But she told me that she wasn't really into me that way. (Now I know that it's hard for most guys to understand this concept of friendship vs. attraction thing since the first thing that comes to our mind when we see a woman is sex.) Now I know that she doesn't find me ugly since I know she finds me cute. So I understood what she was saying.
Anyway we talked about it for a while, and we realized that there's no way to take this to the next level, since she doesn't have those feeling for me. So instead of ruining the friendship by trying in vain, we BOTH decided to keep out friendship where it's at.
Now I don't know how many of you will understand this and I don't really care, but I did enjoy our friendship, and saw my feelings for her as an obstacle between us. I really didn't want those feelings at all, because I am happy being single for the time being.
Anyway my point is that if you have feelings for a friend, I mean real feelings and not just lust, please have the decency to tell her. If she's really a good person, she'll be OK with it. Trust me, because I know. My friendship didn't end, we still see each other and talk like best friends. I see her less because I am now studying and working part time. This was almost an year ago, and she never ever shied away from me. Like one of the previous posters said, if the friendship ends because of this kind of issue, she wasn't worth your time in the first place.
Because what's the alternative? Are you going to keep it to yourself and let it eat you inside out? It's better to get it out in the open and deal with it like adults. After all, we are only human, and it's OK to have feelings for each other. Oh yeah, that's one other thing that she taught me.
And again, thanks for answering my original question, but I really rather not fantasize on a friend. I just wanted someone to tell me what I wanted to hear.
And no I'm not gay. And I'll say this in advance for all the bashing I'm going to get:
If you don't understand how a friendship of this level with a woman is possible, I feel really really lucky, because I guess I've had something that most men can't comprehend.
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Spaztick
Canadian Imperial Armaments Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2009.02.07 06:22:00 -
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I would guarantee she would change her mind if you started making a 6 digit salary. :) |

bff Jill
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Posted - 2009.02.07 06:26:00 -
[105]
Originally by: rValdez5987
Wow I must be gay then... I have several female friends who im told are attractive but i dont look at them with sex or lust in mind. My friendship with them is no different then any male friendship.
Yay for being different I guess.
You could also be a pedo
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Plumpy McPudding
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Posted - 2009.02.07 08:43:00 -
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Pick up a Taiwanese hooker and go that route instead. |
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