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Togen Lei Gallente Abyssal Heavy Industries	Posted - 2009.02.03 06:26:00 - [61] Originally by: Marcus Gideon Am I the only one that noticed... They were able to identify a cloaked ship with their sensors I don't think it was the cloaked ship they scanned out, but the iso-5. If the ship was loaded with the iso-5 the cloak probably couldn't disguise the ship's signature. If iso-5 can tear space/time it's probably a fair bet that a cloak couldn't hide it's signature completely. The Captain said that they only noticed the signature because it was what they were searching for (iso-5 sig). Can't wait for the next part.
Nareg Maxence Gallente	Posted - 2009.02.03 07:38:00 - [62] Originally by: YunFu Yan I am very unhappy with this chronicle. It seems way too forced and unlogical. It feels silly and unrealistic that anyone would believe negotiation with rogue drones is possible, especially when their aggressive nature has proven itself so often already. I completely agree. This was not quality writing, I'm afraid. It looks like something I would have written in an english essay at school.
Zel Nughat Amarr Nughat Corp	Posted - 2009.02.03 08:41:00 - [63] I like the chronicle, it is perfectly written, and it gives lots of clues. Sisters of EVE, it's granted passage by everyone in times of need. Rogue drones not only can communicate to us, they have granted passage to Sisters of EVE in the past, hence the captain tries to do it this time, no 'Darwing Award' deserved. As rogue drones are a creation gone wrong of a Gallente scientist (is in one of the cronicles) and can communicate with humans, it is possible that Amarr scientists have come to some understanding with them and have some kind of deal. The banished Mimmatar Fleet may be still alive and is probably trying to return home. A continuos stream of '1' received of any communications channel its the rogue drone equivalent of the 'YARR!!!' of war, i you ever come across it, check your surroundings and be ready for battle. The Blood Raider and Thukker Tribe chasers may be about to arrive to the Sisters of EVE Apocalypse battleship. The cloaked Abbadon should have already detected drone's attack on the captain's ship. Thanks for the chronicles CCP, they are just the perfect apperitive before what could be the biggest change to EVE...ever. ------------------------------------------- The moon is a terrible mistress... ...who walks the night with demons of dread.
Rakshasa Taisab Caldari Sane Industries Inc. Ursa Stellar Initiative	Posted - 2009.02.03 08:43:00 - [64] Originally by: Kylegar For the first time in a while, I'm dissapointed. I saw the last two chronicles evolving into a great chase, with the sisters of eve searching, the blood raiders trying to hunt them, and the Thukkers trying to kill the blood raiders, and discovering the superweapon at the same time the sisters did. So you're saying the chronicle mirrors real life, where people make irrational and generally just plain dump decisions when greed takes over? And it leads to a pathetic and untimely death, plus lots of suffering? Naah, bring back the plots that pushes our suspense of disbelief towards human behavior to the limit, and beyond. Those makes such great stories.
Xia Kairui	Posted - 2009.02.03 08:57:00 - [65] Originally by: Zel Nughat Rogue drones not only can communicate to us, ... There even is a rogue drone agent somewhere in the Gallente COSMOS. When I ran the mission her avatar was labelled "Jove" but I think that was only because the database only knows the four player races plus Jove. In any case, she can quite clearly communicate, although you need to find some gizmo first (IOW, a haul mission) so you can accept her real mission. See http://www.eve-wiki.net/index.php?title=Drone_Mind_(1/2)_01010011_01001111_01010011_(L3)(Rogue_Drones)(Serpentis) Originally by: Zel Nughat A continuos stream of '1' received of any communications channel its the rogue drone equivalent of the 'YARR!!!' of war, i you ever come across it, check your surroundings and be ready for battle. There is, or was, a regular agent mission where you face rogue drones. When you warp to the first stage a popup opens with some binary in it, and some guy translated it as regular ASCII message going something like "WE WILL PWN YOU" or such smack. Can't find a link to that at the moment though. So a) drones can definitely communicate b) they speak the default language known in the EVE cluster c) they actually send the ASCII representation of the digits, which is extremely inefficient :)
ollobrains2 Gallente New Eve Order Holdings	Posted - 2009.02.03 09:59:00 - [66] ccp may be able to expand that with more sentient drones
Poreuomai Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.02.03 11:00:00 - [67] Edited by: Poreuomai on 03/02/2009 11:03:22 Originally by: Zel Nughat A continuos stream of '1' received of any communications channel its the rogue drone equivalent of the 'YARR!!!' of war, i you ever come across it, check your surroundings and be ready for battle. Perhaps the beginning of the message was lost and all they received was the last part of some serious smack: !!!!!!1111111eleven!!!111 Originally by: Xia Kairui There is, or was, a regular agent mission where you face rogue drones. When you warp to the first stage a popup opens with some binary in it, and some guy translated it as regular ASCII message going something like "WE WILL PWN YOU" or such smack. Can't find a link to that at the moment though. http://www.eve-search.com/thread/987311#4
Aldrith Shutaq Amarr Ordo Nigrorum Susurri Ordo Magna	Posted - 2009.02.03 11:03:00 - [68] Originally by: Zel Nughat The banished Mimmatar Fleet may be still alive and is probably trying to return home. That fleet didn't get banished. It got asploded. It was very pertty and flashy and made me happy. However... the thought that either the Blood Raiders or the Thukkers might get their hands on that weapon makes me worried. Very much so. Abraxis... don't screw Amarr! Please? I'll send you cookies!
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet	Posted - 2009.02.03 11:17:00 - [69] Edited by: Destination SkillQueue on 03/02/2009 11:25:32 Originally by: Aldrith Shutaq Edit: And what's with all the nay-sayers trying to find plot holes and scientific impossibilities? Just enjoy the damn story and stop making yourself look like the bitter sci-fi nerds you are. Can you enjoy a story, if all you see is plot holes and people acting in implausable ways just because the plot demands it? These chronicles are so random and short, that it doesn't bother me in the least, but people following things closely or who are experienced in writing propably can't help but notice these things. EDIT: Constructive criticism is never a bad thing. You need the feedback, if you want to improve your writing. I used to write walls of text with horrible grammar and didn't think how it all came across to others. It was pretty hard to follow. More random flow of thought than well thought out writing. I'm still far from a good writer, but thanks to some constructive criticism I've improved a lot.
ollobrains2 Gallente New Eve Order Holdings	Posted - 2009.02.03 11:20:00 - [70] we have approximatley 4 more chronciles yet before deployment i think the blood raider and thukker ships might go kaboomies to

Jahah Smith Amarr Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.02.03 11:24:00 - [71] Originally by: SGT LaForge Edited by: SGT LaForge on 02/02/2009 23:18:54 There is another perhaps hint in the last video released at the very end. During the battle with Gallente, a small black hole or fisher of some sort opens up beside the Gallente Titan... Thats the graphic of the Erebrus's Doomsday Device
Leopold Caine Amarr Ordo Nigrorum Susurri Ordo Magna	Posted - 2009.02.03 11:45:00 - [72] Yes, it has a bit of a far fetched feel to it, but... I'll wait for the other chronicles before fully commenting.
Jericho Alar Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2009.02.03 12:50:00 - [73] Originally by: Mark Foley Ah, dear. Rogue Drones harvest what from a sun? Unlikely. Droney droney melty. Just because CCP is too lazy to fix the clipping so that we can fly inside suns doesn't mean they can get away with this kind of stuff. The density of this rogue drone superstructure, being larger than stars, as described, would create a gravity well that would act similar to a black hole, or a supermassive star, dragging everything around it toward it. Thus drones, SoE ships etc would not be able to function nearby. Depending on density, the star would collapse under its own gravity and create lovely Mr Black hole. It would either pull the sun into it, or vice versa? Considering the drones built it, they likly build it orbiting the sun, yet as its size grows they cannot move it into a different position. Good read, too many holes though. Also the plot line sucks. size != mass -> being a superstructure large enough to eclipse suns doesn't necessarily imply mass on the same order of magnitude. all of your assumptions concerning super massive collapse/black holes/major gravity wells would only apply if it were an incredibly massive structure; and not just a large one.
Typhado3 Minmatar Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium Axiom Empire	Posted - 2009.02.03 13:16:00 - [74] Quote: "On the other side of that hive is the superweapon Jamyl Sarum used to repel the Minmatar invasion. It is the largest, most powerful weapon the world has ever known." He paused, surveying his people. "I want it," he said. seems like something I would say.... didn't expect this from a sister. tbh I probably could understand his attempt to talk to the drones.... but i woulda packed a cloak and kept it running before I tried talking to them.
Nomakai Delateriel Amarr Ammatar Free Corps	Posted - 2009.02.03 15:01:00 - [75] Meh. I can't believe that you've so far failed to realize that "1" in binary is an expression of yes/positive/on. This combined with the last line: "And the ship's captain learned that faith is not enough, for faith is blind by nature. Life needs insight. It is the dead, and the dying, that allow themselves to be led." In my opinion the drones were saying that they were alive, truly alive, and thus truly thinking. As such they wouldn't be constrained by mere faith, tradition and function. That they wouldn't be led or controlled by anything but their own rationality.
Zargyl	Posted - 2009.02.03 15:16:00 - [76] Yep nice story! And I do like all the tie ins with the incredible Empyrean Age novel! :) Though I second that the captian was very simple minded to try to reason with drones who do have quite a low chance to have a programming that enables them to solve morality dilemmas (looks like he wasnÆt that much of a scientist as I would have liked to believe from the beginning). In regard to "parking" the superweapon: Well looks like Sarum wanted to hide that ship and I guess that near that super-isogen-5-hive is a quite secure place to do that. It might also have been an idea of the ôtrueö Sarum to limit her own access to the weapon.
Myrhial Arkenath Ghost Festival	Posted - 2009.02.03 15:57:00 - [77] Another enjoyable part to this series. Looking forward to see it continue on.
Faraelle Brightman Gallente Placid Reborn	Posted - 2009.02.03 17:14:00 - [78] Originally by: SGT LaForge There is another perhaps hint in the last video released at the very end. During the battle with Gallente, a small black hole or fisher of some sort opens up beside the Gallente Titan... So it looks like Either Gallente have obtained/developed a new superweapon "possibly with the help of Jove, since Jove likes Gallente the most, and SOE is a branched faction of them... Or, that black hole is a weapon being launched against the Titan, but I vote its Gallente's new weapon. Military experts tell us that what you saw is the normal Doomsday effect of the Erebus-class Titan, in what is coloquialy called a "hotdrop" manuver. ----------------------- "Every once in a while, declare peace. It confuses the hell out of your enemies."
Roc Wieler Freeform Industries	Posted - 2009.02.03 19:49:00 - [79] I thought at the end of the EA novel, that the whole "incident" with Sarum's clone was the Broker inserting himself into her mind, in addition to her own mind. As for everything odd that has happened since then, I think it's all within the plan of the Broker, only slowly being revealed to us over time.
Armoured Gamer Gallente Globaltech Industries The ENTITY.	Posted - 2009.02.04 07:34:00 - [80] Originally by: Faraelle Brightman Originally by: SGT LaForge There is another perhaps hint in the last video released at the very end. During the battle with Gallente, a small black hole or fisher of some sort opens up beside the Gallente Titan... So it looks like Either Gallente have obtained/developed a new superweapon "possibly with the help of Jove, since Jove likes Gallente the most, and SOE is a branched faction of them... Or, that black hole is a weapon being launched against the Titan, but I vote its Gallente's new weapon. Military experts tell us that what you saw is the normal Doomsday effect of the Erebus-class Titan, in what is coloquialy called a "hotdrop" manuver. it was the slowest hot drop everrrrrr i mean the time it got it self out of the hole in reality everyship would of bunkered there gonads in side there ship and GTF out of dodge

Dr Karsun Gallente Integrity.	Posted - 2009.02.04 08:09:00 - [81] Great chronicle. I expect another one, as it wasn't said that the drones destroyed the hull. Any way, negotiating with the drones may have been a good idea, but I would do it rather like "aling to nearest celestial object, send message, warp out when they start hitting the shield". Any way, a great chronicle clap clap clap
Dennmoth Ferdier	Posted - 2009.02.04 08:44:00 - [82] Edited by: Dennmoth Ferdier on 04/02/2009 08:44:59 I'm surprised to see the fact that this abaddon integrated superweapon has already been showed to us has been mentioned only once in this thread and left without notice. edit: There was a vid about the amarr fleet clashing with the minmatar, where an abaddon launched a black-bluish energy sphere from its front that seemingly jumped from ship to ship, destroying them all. I betcha the vid caused some speculation, but only now the lines between the dots start to connect. Somehow this chronicle lights up a small glimpse of hope as to a new superweapon-class ship per race. Highly doubtful, 99.9% or so, but one can always hope :/
HankMurphy Minmatar Pelennor Enterprises	Posted - 2009.02.04 09:19:00 - [83] Where is Laurence Fishburn and an EMP generator when you need them? Good chronicle, I liked it very much and look forward to the next! ---------- "This is Chopper Dave's made for TV movie, Blades Of Vengeance. See, he's a chopper pilot by day, but by night he fights crime as a werewolf... YEAH!"
Istvaan Shogaatsu Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2009.02.04 13:16:00 - [84] Originally by: Gil Danastre Originally by: Steve Zodiak This immediately brought to my mind "The Eighth Plague", which I have just enjoyed re-reading. Can someone tell me who wrote this and the previous two Chronicles? That Abraxas guy who made this thread. Eighth Plague was me :)
Spurty Caldari Amok. Minor Threat.	Posted - 2009.02.04 13:17:00 - [85] man teh laz0rs ... pew pew ...---... esplodes! Heh I like the short stories .. just right length for where I read em. Its all Gallente fault what with their slave drones getting lose and going native!!!
Pottsey Enheduanni Foundation	Posted - 2009.02.04 13:30:00 - [86] YunFu Yan said ôIt feels silly and unrealistic that anyone would believe negotiation with rogue drones is possible, especially when their aggressive nature has proven itself so often already.ö I have negotiated with rouge drones before and got rewards off them and so have other pilots. There is a trick to it. There are missions where NPCs are hiding with the drones and have some sort of cease fire negotiated with the drones. The novel had drones that would negotiate. Adaera said ôI was under the impression the Jove had the best relations with the Caldari; they've been in a lot of trade agreements at least.ö Considering the Elder are really Jove running the Minmatar one could argue they have the best relations to the Jove. Then again the Elder Jove bought down the 2nd Jove Empire and are not that popular with the main Jove group. ____ Telltale sign of their presence is non-linear teleportation (www.eve-online.com/races/theodicy/Theodicy_All.pdf)
Istvaan Shogaatsu Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2009.02.04 14:25:00 - [87] Of course you can negotiate with drones. Most folks just haven't figured out how to yet. The halfwit toasters you see floating in space are kind of a lower genus of drone - keep in mind there's sentient drones out there. Another thing to keep in mind is that while humans acquire knowledge incrementally, drone intelligence evolves exponentially. The first one went nutso about 25 years ago - it's had all that time to learn. Imagine doubling your learning and capacity for knowledge every second, and you'll see why they've figured out how to mine blue giant stars.
Lolitassa	Posted - 2009.02.04 17:45:00 - [88] Wonderful Artwork
Adaris Gallente E X I U S	Posted - 2009.02.04 20:03:00 - [89] Originally by: HankMurphy Where is Laurence Fishburn and an EMP generator when you need them? THIS Great read. moar ******* I speak on behalf of every corporation.
Malthros Zenobia Cadian Special Operations Command	Posted - 2009.02.04 23:22:00 - [90] Originally by: Pottsey YunFu Yan said ôIt feels silly and unrealistic that anyone would believe negotiation with rogue drones is possible, especially when their aggressive nature has proven itself so often already.ö I have negotiated with rouge drones before and got rewards off them and so have other pilots. There is a trick to it. There are missions where NPCs are hiding with the drones and have some sort of cease fire negotiated with the drones. The novel had drones that would negotiate. Adaera said ôI was under the impression the Jove had the best relations with the Caldari; they've been in a lot of trade agreements at least.ö Considering the Elder are really Jove running the Minmatar one could argue they have the best relations to the Jove. Then again the Elder Jove bought down the 2nd Jove Empire and are not that popular with the main Jove group. 1. Those drones aren't Rogue Drones you're talking about in the novel. The Rogue Drones in the novel didn't negotiate. 2. Proof or STFU. There's no fiction that states the Elders are Jove. they are referred to as mythical and the best of the tribes, that's about the extent of it. Not sure where you are getting the Jove-Elder stuff from. Confusing it with player fiction? Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.



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