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CCP Abraxas
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Posted - 2009.02.02 12:07:00 -
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The End of the World continues in the chronicle series leading up to the Apocrypha expansion. Life meets life now, and certain presumptions are perhaps unwarranted.
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Mon Kiera
Caldari Madhatters Inc. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.02.02 12:43:00 -
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Edited by: Mon Kiera on 02/02/2009 12:43:46 First. |
Evelgrivion
Ignatium. Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2009.02.02 13:12:00 -
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That wasn't too bright of the captain. Great story, though
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Gnulpie
Minmatar Miner Tech
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Posted - 2009.02.02 13:13:00 -
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Moaaaaaaaaar!
Lots of stuff there, excellent.
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Maric TheSecond
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Posted - 2009.02.02 13:21:00 -
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He should listen to the first navigator. I know I would.
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Fergus Runkle
Minmatar Truth and Reconciliation Council
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Posted - 2009.02.02 13:37:00 -
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Whoa
So from TEA novel we know Sarum's clone information was doctored with "in mid flight" as it were. Something which is beyond the technology or understanding of the four races at this time.
TEA also established the rogue drones harvesting the isogen-5 mineral, used to power the super weapon.
Now this chron has the super weapon (or a second one) hidden at a rogue drone hive.
Is it possible it was the rogue drones that re-programmed sarum ?
That would be a nice twist, in a kind of way.
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Rem Laideker
Caldari The Kakhura'uta Caravan
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Posted - 2009.02.02 13:39:00 -
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Give me more!
Very interesting to see what will happen until March. I seriously doubted that the drones would do anything but what they did. Drones are scary.
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Gabriel Theodoulos
Amarr Vigilia Valeria Expeditionary Forces
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Posted - 2009.02.02 13:50:00 -
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I cannot nor will not entertain the notion that our beloved empress is under the influence of the rogue drones.
The foolish captain. I am grateful that the weapon is still in the hands of the righteous. |
Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2009.02.02 14:37:00 -
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SQUEEEEEEEEEEE!
DRONES :D |
YunFu Yan
Yan Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.02.02 15:06:00 -
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I am very unhappy with this chronicle.
It seems way too forced and unlogical.
It feels silly and unrealistic that anyone would believe negotiation with rogue drones is possible, especially when their aggressive nature has proven itself so often already.
It might be reasonable that the Terran superweapon ruptured the fabric of time and space and thereby is the cause of the anomalies.
However, why would Sarum park it right next to the hive and source of Isogen-5? If the factions intel services are worth only a fraction of their budgets they would have shaded the Abbadon permanently. Sarum would have faced a serious risk of giving away the source of her power by moving the ship back to that hive.
Now one could argue that it doesn't matter because the superweapon could just kill anything in it's path anyways. But with he Isogen-5 being described as so extremly voilatile any serious ship to ship combat in the vincinity of the hive would be bear the chance of it's destruction, rendering the superweapon useless once it's cache of Isogen-5 is used up.
Now why would Sarum risk this?
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Casiella Truza
White Rose Society
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Posted - 2009.02.02 15:34:00 -
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Okay, so now we have the Sisters of EVE investigating the rogue drones who may be in league with the Amarrians.
This is getting better, yes.
Now since we know the Sleepers are involved with the new wormhole space, and that they were experts in VR and related technologies, any chance the drones are somehow their tools? --
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Rhys Onasi
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Posted - 2009.02.02 16:08:00 -
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Now THIS was a chronicle! |
Faraelle Brightman
Gallente Placid Reborn
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Posted - 2009.02.02 16:18:00 -
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Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu SQUEEEEEEEEEEE!
DRONES :D
-10 to Istvann's tough-guy image.
*hands Istvann a set of Rogue Drone plushies* :D -----------------------
"Every once in a while, declare peace. It confuses the hell out of your enemies." |
Pharuan
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.02.02 16:25:00 -
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More than likely the ship is there to be reloaded, as it's probably a one shot deal.
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That said, I'm sure we can all see where this is going. The use of the super weapon.
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Right there... Against the hive... Destroying the system... and creating wormholes.
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JayJay Lexus
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2009.02.02 16:36:00 -
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Edited by: JayJay Lexus on 02/02/2009 16:35:54
Originally by: Pharuan That said, I'm sure we can all see where this is going. The use of the super weapon.
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Right there... Against the hive... Destroying the system... and creating wormholes.
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Spol sport..
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ovenproofjet
Caldari Swords of Clarity Tank 'n' Spank
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Posted - 2009.02.02 16:54:00 -
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Fantastic chronicle! CCP are really working hard on this storyline and are pulling it off brilliantly.
Well done guys, keep up the good work!!!
P.S. Isogen-5 = Key to T3
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rValdez5987
Amarr 32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment.
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Posted - 2009.02.02 17:09:00 -
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Originally by: Gabriel Theodoulos I cannot nor will not entertain the notion that our beloved empress is under the influence of the rogue drones.
The foolish captain. I am grateful that the weapon is still in the hands of the righteous.
On behalf of the 32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy, I am seconding this.
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Freyya
GeoCorp. Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2009.02.02 17:34:00 -
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/Me is jumping up and down of excitement!!! MOAR MOAR MOAAAR!
I was just saying in jove channel last night that the Sleepers hacked into systems so long ago and made the drones rogue. Together with my perfect timing concerning the question which race the new NPCs where going to be and the fact that i was thinking up a story line which involved the sleepers and wormholes etc. over a year ago, i feel like i am having a mindlink with CCP HQ Hope you remember that email from me over a year ago Abraxas, in which i asked for more information about the sleepers etc. Which you denied to give me if anyone is wondering (and rightfully so might i add). I look forward to reading more of this soon! |
Rex Lashar
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.02.02 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: Gabriel Theodoulos I cannot nor will not entertain the notion that our beloved empress is under the influence of the rogue drones.
The foolish captain. I am grateful that the weapon is still in the hands of the righteous.
No, you're right. The rogue drones are just doing all that work for free.
Either she's one of them, or she promised a lot of cyberblowjobs. |
Rex Lashar
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.02.02 18:09:00 -
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Oh yeah, now we have even more ridiculously massive structures in EVE. Lets get this out of the way:
Ragnaroks are the new yard stick. |
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Laszlo Ozawa
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Posted - 2009.02.02 18:10:00 -
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Edited by: Laszlo Ozawa on 02/02/2009 18:12:43 eve, h.p. lovecraft edition.
Rex, ever the stater & waldorf.. |
Abrazzar
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Posted - 2009.02.02 18:12:00 -
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Now let's speculate:
That Abaddon is not the original but a copy. When the Empress went to get fuel for her device, the drones there scanned the ship and found out what it could do. Grasping the scope of the device they moved to a Isogen-5 rich star and built a super-titan sized vessel and installed the Abaddon like a gun.
Knowing that when anyone would find the thing on a drone construct would stir up human forces to take it out so they cloaked it. Now there are some people finding it though and things will turn messy. Next will be a Thukker/Blood Raider alliance trying to take the thing out and get blasted to hell (and back and there again for good measure).
Alternatively, Jamyl used her 'upgraded communicative abilities' to either control the drones she got the Isogen-5 from or struck a deal with them for some equal return. Might even have been the trading the gun for the bullets. Whatever it was the drones are providing her with the Isogen-5 she needs.
MOAR ! |
Ehranavaar
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Posted - 2009.02.02 18:12:00 -
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Originally by: YunFu Yan
It might be reasonable that the Terran superweapon ruptured the fabric of time and space and thereby is the cause of the anomalies.
Now one could argue that it doesn't matter because the superweapon could just kill anything in it's path anyways. But with he Isogen-5 being described as so extremly voilatile any serious ship to ship combat in the vincinity of the hive would be bear the chance of it's destruction, rendering the superweapon useless once it's cache of Isogen-5 is used up.
could it be there is a fight near the hive over the superweapon and when the drone hive pops the explosion is so powerful it is the source of the wormhole phenomena? perhaps the superweapon is fired and the blast feeds on the Isogen 5 stored in the hive producing effects wildly beyond spectacular. |
Aeo IV
Amarr Xomic OmniCorporation
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Posted - 2009.02.02 18:26:00 -
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CCP, the link the front pages has a hyperlink under the name 'Sisters of EVE' which links to the Spiral. Wouldn't it make more sense that it should link to the article (about the organization) in your wiki? |
Laszlo Ozawa
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Posted - 2009.02.02 18:27:00 -
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i have to add, though, that this sounds like 'impossibly-huge mouth of a mad god' syndrome, in terms of writing. just call up hellgremlin the next time you want a decent rogue drone story. i'm sure he'll accommodate.
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2009.02.02 18:31:00 -
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Originally by: Ehranavaar could it be there is a fight near the hive over the superweapon and when the drone hive pops the explosion is so powerful it is the source of the wormhole phenomena? perhaps the superweapon is fired and the blast feeds on the Isogen 5 stored in the hive producing effects wildly beyond spectacular.
With the superweapon creating anti-reality in minor amounts, a gargantuan hive full of Isogen-5 funneling it all through a superweapon might create enough anti-reality to rip up space time.
Could even be that the debris of anti-reality resulting from a uncontrolled discharge might be the cause for unstable and random wormholes to appear.
Or it'd show up on Sleeper radar as a EVE gate reactivation and wakes them up and they poke their heads into our space to see what's going on (and be thoroughly dismayed with what they see).
Hell, the superweapon could have been used to collapse the EVE gate to begin with. I mean, colonies, old-world greedy pigs, separatist movement, rebellion, etc. A big expedition fleet coming through the EVE gate and the only way to stop them and to ensure their freedom was to close the gate for good. We'll probably never know.
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london
Gallente KDS Navy
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Posted - 2009.02.02 18:37:00 -
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That was pretty sweet. Looks like the captain failed by applying human logic to a soulless machine. And for what greater good would someone just hand over a super weapon? |
Kyoko Sakoda
Caldari Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2009.02.02 18:49:00 -
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Ending was predictable but I loved it!
Eve Radio - Playing Music To The Masses! |
TornSoul
BIG Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.02.02 18:51:00 -
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Don't quite buy how the captain (and presumably a majority of the others) so suddenly and drastically "turn from their way" of humanitarians to "peace *making*" persons...
That doesn't quite fit imo... (was "out of character" imo)
Ruined it a bit for me :/
Wish another reason for them wanting/needing/having to take control of the ship/weapon could have been used.
But apart from that little niggle - Good stuff! (as usual)
BIG Lottery |
Bin Ohmsford
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Posted - 2009.02.02 18:52:00 -
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Great!! Just Great, keep them coming...Good story...
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.02 19:03:00 -
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Originally by: Rex Lashar Oh yeah, now we have even more ridiculously massive structures in EVE. Lets get this out of the way:
Ragnaroks are the new yard stick.
I don't know if you're aware of this basic fact, but a structure to build a titan needs to be bigger than a titan.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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Adaera
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Posted - 2009.02.02 19:54:00 -
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Wow... LOVED the story. This is getting really interesting now.
Umm, just wondering; I saw that weapon in action on the trailer, anyone happen to know what exactly it is? Heard the Empyrean age novel describes it in more detail but not managed to get hold of that yet.
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Ptysiu
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Posted - 2009.02.02 20:08:00 -
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Edited by: Ptysiu on 02/02/2009 20:09:07 Hmm... So "1" is the drones version of "ROTFL" or "LMAO" it seems. Heh, I might use it as a warcry during some gate-camp, I wonder if anyone would understand what it means.
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2009.02.02 20:13:00 -
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Edited by: Abrazzar on 02/02/2009 20:14:27
Originally by: Ptysiu Edited by: Ptysiu on 02/02/2009 20:09:07 Hmm... So "1" is the drones version of "ROTFL" or "LMAO" it seems. Heh, I might use it as a warcry during some gate-camp, I wonder if anyone would understand what it means.
I've put 11111111 into a binary ASCII translator and it spat out "& # 2 5 5 ;" If you post it in one 'word' it turns from the line into this sign:
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Kylegar
Caldari Quantum Industries RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.02 20:31:00 -
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For the first time in a while, I'm dissapointed. I saw the last two chronicles evolving into a great chase, with the sisters of eve searching, the blood raiders trying to hunt them, and the Thukkers trying to kill the blood raiders, and discovering the superweapon at the same time the sisters did.
Instead, we get some irrational movements, collosally bad decisions, and throwing the possibilty of a great set of space-western styled cronicles out the window.
However, it's nice to know how Jamyl Sarum wtfpwned the Elder fleet. I wonder if the giant super-structure has anything to do with the code aria report. it would be cool if that all got tied in together. |
Steve Zodiak
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Posted - 2009.02.02 21:36:00 -
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Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu SQUEEEEEEEEEEE!
DRONES :D
This immediately brought to my mind "The Eighth Plague", which I have just enjoyed re-reading.
Can someone tell me who wrote this and the previous two Chronicles?
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Gil Danastre
Amarr Madhatters Inc. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.02.02 22:17:00 -
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Originally by: Steve Zodiak
This immediately brought to my mind "The Eighth Plague", which I have just enjoyed re-reading.
Can someone tell me who wrote this and the previous two Chronicles?
That Abraxas guy who made this thread.
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emepror
Gallente X.E.N.O. OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.02 22:40:00 -
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im wondering if isogen-5 will make it into the game :) |
tru roman
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Posted - 2009.02.02 22:44:00 -
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good story just that more action and details would be nice |
permion
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Posted - 2009.02.02 22:44:00 -
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I can't imagine ANY captain doing that. |
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SGT LaForge
Dragon's Rage Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.02.02 23:16:00 -
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Edited by: SGT LaForge on 02/02/2009 23:18:54
Originally by: Abrazzar Now let's speculate:
That Abaddon is not the original but a copy. When the Empress went to get fuel for her device, the drones there scanned the ship and found out what it could do. Grasping the scope of the device they moved to a Isogen-5 rich star and built a super-titan sized vessel and installed the Abaddon like a gun.
Knowing that when anyone would find the thing on a drone construct would stir up human forces to take it out so they cloaked it. Now there are some people finding it though and things will turn messy. Next will be a Thukker/Blood Raider alliance trying to take the thing out and get blasted to hell (and back and there again for good measure).
Alternatively, Jamyl used her 'upgraded communicative abilities' to either control the drones she got the Isogen-5 from or struck a deal with them for some equal return. Might even have been the trading the gun for the bullets. Whatever it was the drones are providing her with the Isogen-5 she needs.
MOAR !
People seem to be forgetting one thing.. The Blood Raider's in the "Half a Life" Story were redirected from finishing the disgusting task they do by high command to follow the SOE ship, so Amarr knows the Abaddon is there, for I am sure if the drones accidentally stumbled upon the Abaddon and captured it, the captian would have used the weapon on the drones. I am thinking the Rogue Drones are probably working with the Amarr, and they keep the ship there cloaked so it cannot be detected anywhere in Empire space. And also, they were being shadowed by a Thukkar Tribe ship, so Minmatar will most likely know about this now. Another thing I don't know if anyone has picked up on, as with the Empyrean Age video, I noticed that weapon at the end right away and was like wtf... There is another perhaps hint in the last video released at the very end. During the battle with Gallente, a small black hole or fisher of some sort opens up beside the Gallente Titan... So it looks like Either Gallente have obtained/developed a new superweapon "possibly with the help of Jove, since Jove likes Gallente the most, and SOE is a branched faction of them... Or, that black hole is a weapon being launched against the Titan, but I vote its Gallente's new weapon. |
Adaera
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Posted - 2009.02.02 23:26:00 -
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Originally by: SGT LaForge Edited by: SGT LaForge on 02/02/2009 23:18:54
Originally by: Abrazzar Now let's speculate:
That Abaddon is not the original but a copy. When the Empress went to get fuel for her device, the drones there scanned the ship and found out what it could do. Grasping the scope of the device they moved to a Isogen-5 rich star and built a super-titan sized vessel and installed the Abaddon like a gun.
Knowing that when anyone would find the thing on a drone construct would stir up human forces to take it out so they cloaked it. Now there are some people finding it though and things will turn messy. Next will be a Thukker/Blood Raider alliance trying to take the thing out and get blasted to hell (and back and there again for good measure).
Alternatively, Jamyl used her 'upgraded communicative abilities' to either control the drones she got the Isogen-5 from or struck a deal with them for some equal return. Might even have been the trading the gun for the bullets. Whatever it was the drones are providing her with the Isogen-5 she needs.
MOAR !
People seem to be forgetting one thing.. The Blood Raider's in the "Half a Life" Story were redirected from finishing the disgusting task they do by high command to follow the SOE ship, so Amarr knows the Abaddon is there, for I am sure if the drones accidentally stumbled upon the Abaddon and captured it, the captian would have used the weapon on the drones. I am thinking the Rogue Drones are probably working with the Amarr, and they keep the ship there cloaked so it cannot be detected anywhere in Empire space. And also, they were being shadowed by a Thukkar Tribe ship, so Minmatar will most likely know about this now. Another thing I don't know if anyone has picked up on, as with the Empyrean Age video, I noticed that weapon at the end right away and was like wtf... There is another perhaps hint in the last video released at the very end. During the battle with Gallente, a small black hole or fisher of some sort opens up beside the Gallente Titan... So it looks like Either Gallente have obtained/developed a new superweapon "possibly with the help of Jove, since Jove likes Gallente the most, and SOE is a branched faction of them... Or, that black hole is a weapon being launched against the Titan, but I vote its Gallente's new weapon.
I was under the impression the Jove had the best relations with the Caldari; they've been in a lot of trade agreements at least. |
SGT LaForge
Dragon's Rage Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.02.02 23:49:00 -
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Originally by: Adaera Edited by: Adaera on 02/02/2009 23:37:19
Originally by: SGT LaForge Edited by: SGT LaForge on 02/02/2009 23:18:54
Originally by: Abrazzar Now let's speculate:
That Abaddon is not the original but a copy. When the Empress went to get fuel for her device, the drones there scanned the ship and found out what it could do. Grasping the scope of the device they moved to a Isogen-5 rich star and built a super-titan sized vessel and installed the Abaddon like a gun.
Knowing that when anyone would find the thing on a drone construct would stir up human forces to take it out so they cloaked it. Now there are some people finding it though and things will turn messy. Next will be a Thukker/Blood Raider alliance trying to take the thing out and get blasted to hell (and back and there again for good measure).
Alternatively, Jamyl used her 'upgraded communicative abilities' to either control the drones she got the Isogen-5 from or struck a deal with them for some equal return. Might even have been the trading the gun for the bullets. Whatever it was the drones are providing her with the Isogen-5 she needs.
MOAR !
People seem to be forgetting one thing.. The Blood Raider's in the "Half a Life" Story were redirected from finishing the disgusting task they do by high command to follow the SOE ship, so Amarr knows the Abaddon is there, for I am sure if the drones accidentally stumbled upon the Abaddon and captured it, the captian would have used the weapon on the drones. I am thinking the Rogue Drones are probably working with the Amarr, and they keep the ship there cloaked so it cannot be detected anywhere in Empire space. And also, they were being shadowed by a Thukkar Tribe ship, so Minmatar will most likely know about this now. Another thing I don't know if anyone has picked up on, as with the Empyrean Age video, I noticed that weapon at the end right away and was like wtf... There is another perhaps hint in the last video released at the very end. During the battle with Gallente, a small black hole or fisher of some sort opens up beside the Gallente Titan... So it looks like Either Gallente have obtained/developed a new superweapon "possibly with the help of Jove, since Jove likes Gallente the most, and SOE is a branched faction of them... Or, that black hole is a weapon being launched against the Titan, but I vote its Gallente's new weapon.
I was under the impression the Jove had the best relations with the Caldari; they've been in a lot of trade agreements at least. And don't Caldari missions boost Jove standing?
I may be wrong, but I do recal in a chronicle or short story I read a long time ago.... Jove did introduce pod technology to Caldari first... But there was a huge battle between Amarr and Jove, I thought I remember hearing that Caldari aided Amarr.. Going to see if I can find it again
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Mark Foley
Funny Men In Funny Hats
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Posted - 2009.02.03 00:00:00 -
[44]
Ah, dear.
Rogue Drones harvest what from a sun? Unlikely. Droney droney melty. Just because CCP is too lazy to fix the clipping so that we can fly inside suns doesn't mean they can get away with this kind of stuff.
The density of this rogue drone superstructure, being larger than stars, as described, would create a gravity well that would act similar to a black hole, or a supermassive star, dragging everything around it toward it. Thus drones, SoE ships etc would not be able to function nearby.
Depending on density, the star would collapse under its own gravity and create lovely Mr Black hole.
It would either pull the sun into it, or vice versa? Considering the drones built it, they likly build it orbiting the sun, yet as its size grows they cannot move it into a different position.
Good read, too many holes though.
Also the plot line sucks. |
SGT LaForge
Dragon's Rage Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.02.03 00:03:00 -
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Originally by: Mark Foley Ah, dear.
Rogue Drones harvest what from a sun? Unlikely. Droney droney melty. Just because CCP is too lazy to fix the clipping so that we can fly inside suns doesn't mean they can get away with this kind of stuff.
The density of this rogue drone superstructure, being larger than stars, as described, would create a gravity well that would act similar to a black hole, or a supermassive star, dragging everything around it toward it. Thus drones, SoE ships etc would not be able to function nearby.
Depending on density, the star would collapse under its own gravity and create lovely Mr Black hole.
It would either pull the sun into it, or vice versa? Considering the drones built it, they likly build it orbiting the sun, yet as its size grows they cannot move it into a different position.
Good read, too many holes though.
Also the plot line sucks.
there were mining Isogen-5 that was being emitted from the star... I don't think they were actually harvesting the star... And what they mean by the eclipsing thing, is at the range the ship was parked at, it filled their view screen blocking out the stars |
Hong Lihua
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Posted - 2009.02.03 00:35:00 -
[46]
a little background info for the peeps http://wiki.eveonline.com/wiki/Jamyl_Sarum
For all we know Jamyl is "7 of 9"
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Daan Sai
Polytrope
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Posted - 2009.02.03 00:36:00 -
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typo; para 49 "It is the leverage we need to bring the Empires to hell, ... "
should be "It is the leverage we need to bring the Empires to heel, ..."
Apart from that, the motive is frankly naive, simplistic and not terribly believable.
Finding the giant drone hive, cool, dropping in the magic 'superweapon' and planning to use it to control the "murderous capsuleers" is just silly. Spoiled the atmosphere for me really.
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Savage Creampuff
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Posted - 2009.02.03 00:41:00 -
[48]
enjoyable read, looking forward to the next
i like how they were able to scan a cloaked ship...sweet |
Armoured C
Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2009.02.03 01:07:00 -
[49]
it is more thank likely that isogen - 5 will be the moon mining material that will be available in the wormholes as CCP have said there will be able to put POS up int he wormholes so this does excite me, god know why i have industrial work but it will enjoy the isk counting machine if you pop a tower down on one of thoses.
also there is a lot mroe rouge drone activity going around which make me believe that they are linked with the worm hole but how i can not tell yet , they could be doing this as a selfless act upon themselves as they did continue making the vitoc for nothing. i mean what does a rouge drone do when it has not been givin a task ?
also if the rouge drones are apart of the wormholes would it be sure to say that the drone regions will have some intresting times ahead and that being all blue to each other they might be able to harvest this new moon minerals much more effectivly that most other people?
just a few question that are throwing around in my mind |
Tareen Kashaar
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.02.03 01:36:00 -
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Originally by: Rex Lashar Either she's one of them, or she promised a lot of cyberblowjobs.
I've had Jamyl Sarum, and she was rubbish.
Anyway, can't wait to see what happens next. Sucks that all these people above had to keep dropping spoilers about the Empyrean Age novel though... was still planning to read that, thank you very much. |
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Pac SubCom
A.W.M
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Posted - 2009.02.03 02:03:00 -
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Edited by: Pac SubCom on 03/02/2009 02:04:16 - The drone hive is a resource gathering operation.
- The drones are only tools of whoever manipulates Sarum. Not all drones, just these.
- This party is probably the Sleepers in one form or another (doesn't necessarily mean it's the Sleepers as a whole, maybe just a faction etc).
- Sarum (unconsciously?) is an agent of the Sleepers. She now happens to be the most powerful woman in the cluster.
- The Sleepers are already present in k.space. (I heard the novel featured some kind of "unknown spaceman" found somewhere).
- The Thukkers have a secret: Where do they hide their great caravans? How do they get around? In w.space. Through wormholes.
- The Sleepers are the Minmatar-ancients. Why Sleepers, and not the others? Thukkers are also a Minmatar faction (or are Minmatar a Thukker faction? The truth is out there...)
- The "Elders" attack/War In Heaven: A bid to stop Sarum coming to power? If so, it failed - Sarum and her handlers managed to acquire/build the Isogen-5 superweapon and it destroyed the elder invasion. This does not seem to be a war between the Amarr empire and the Minmatar Republic at all.
- Minmatar and Thukker forces and their standoff with Concord in Yulai: Is Concord involved?
--------------- ∞ TQFE
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BiggestT
Caldari Resurrection Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2009.02.03 02:43:00 -
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Originally by: TornSoul Don't quite buy how the captain (and presumably a majority of the others) so suddenly and drastically "turn from their way" of humanitarians to "peace *making*" persons...
That doesn't quite fit imo... (was "out of character" imo)
Ruined it a bit for me :/
Wish another reason for them wanting/needing/having to take control of the ship/weapon could have been used.
But apart from that little niggle - Good stuff! (as usual)
Aye, I enjoyed the chronicle but was a little dissapointed with the outcome.
It makes no sense that, being the only sisters who know of this location and the new source of isogen-5 (well thats how it seems), that they'd risk it all just to get the super-weapon.
U'd think that, if they really did want to grab the weapon, that they'd simply go to the star and take a sample back home. At which point they would not mention the drone hive, waiting for a later date to come back and investigate (Yes I'm aware that this risks never seeing the abaddon again, but it would have faired them much better lol). |
BiggestT
Caldari Resurrection Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2009.02.03 02:47:00 -
[53]
Originally by: SGT LaForge During the battle with Gallente, a small black hole or fisher of some sort opens up beside the Gallente Titan... So it looks like Either Gallente have obtained/developed a new superweapon "possibly with the help of Jove, since Jove likes Gallente the most, and SOE is a branched faction of them... Or, that black hole is a weapon being launched against the Titan, but I vote its Gallente's new weapon.
Incorrect.
In that vid, the Erebus was actually firing it's aurora ominae, a DD which looks like a black cloud on screen and strikes for massive thermal damage. EVE history
t2 precisions |
Pac SubCom
A.W.M
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Posted - 2009.02.03 03:01:00 -
[54]
Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
And we don't know exactly what happens to them, all we know is that there is a hull breach. |
Marcus Gideon
Gallente Excessive Force
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Posted - 2009.02.03 03:43:00 -
[55]
Am I the only one that noticed...
They were able to identify a cloaked ship with their sensors. And they wanted to send out Probes to investigate the cloaked ship even further.
Perhaps with the exploration changes, there will finally be some resolution of finding Cloaks?
Other than that... awesome story!
--- Don't take my ranting personally. I may just be arguing the topic, unless you're saying something stupid, and then I mean every word. "Players don't want Variety. They want THE BEST" |
Ranged Airman
Airman Expedition
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Posted - 2009.02.03 03:51:00 -
[56]
Overall a fun read, thanks!
Though I agree with TornSoul:
Originally by: TornSoul Don't quite buy how the captain (and presumably a majority of the others) so suddenly and drastically "turn from their way" of humanitarians to "peace *making*" persons...
Still enjoyed it though :)
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ollobrains2
Gallente New Eve Order Holdings
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Posted - 2009.02.03 05:02:00 -
[57]
Sisters of eve is a jove faction.
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Synapse Archae
Amarr Demonic Retribution Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.02.03 05:08:00 -
[58]
Originally by: YunFu Yan I am very unhappy with this chronicle.
It seems way too forced and unlogical.
It feels silly and unrealistic that anyone would believe negotiation with rogue drones is possible, especially when their aggressive nature has proven itself so often already.
It might be reasonable that the Terran superweapon ruptured the fabric of time and space and thereby is the cause of the anomalies.
However, why would Sarum park it right next to the hive and source of Isogen-5? If the factions intel services are worth only a fraction of their budgets they would have shaded the Abbadon permanently. Sarum would have faced a serious risk of giving away the source of her power by moving the ship back to that hive.
Now one could argue that it doesn't matter because the superweapon could just kill anything in it's path anyways. But with he Isogen-5 being described as so extremly voilatile any serious ship to ship combat in the vincinity of the hive would be bear the chance of it's destruction, rendering the superweapon useless once it's cache of Isogen-5 is used up.
Now why would Sarum risk this?
This guy pretty much voiced my concerns. This cronicle didn't make sense. |
ollobrains2
Gallente New Eve Order Holdings
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Posted - 2009.02.03 05:23:00 -
[59]
doesnt make sense yet, this drone thing could explain the QR wars but might lead to a wormhole elsewhere |
Haradgrim
Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2009.02.03 05:56:00 -
[60]
sweet --
Originally by: CCP Oveur Just donæt forget the reach-around.
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Togen Lei
Gallente Abyssal Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2009.02.03 06:26:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Marcus Gideon Am I the only one that noticed...
They were able to identify a cloaked ship with their sensors
I don't think it was the cloaked ship they scanned out, but the iso-5. If the ship was loaded with the iso-5 the cloak probably couldn't disguise the ship's signature. If iso-5 can tear space/time it's probably a fair bet that a cloak couldn't hide it's signature completely. The Captain said that they only noticed the signature because it was what they were searching for (iso-5 sig).
Can't wait for the next part. |
Nareg Maxence
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.02.03 07:38:00 -
[62]
Originally by: YunFu Yan I am very unhappy with this chronicle.
It seems way too forced and unlogical.
It feels silly and unrealistic that anyone would believe negotiation with rogue drones is possible, especially when their aggressive nature has proven itself so often already.
I completely agree. This was not quality writing, I'm afraid. It looks like something I would have written in an english essay at school.
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Zel Nughat
Amarr Nughat Corp
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Posted - 2009.02.03 08:41:00 -
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I like the chronicle, it is perfectly written, and it gives lots of clues.
- Sisters of EVE, it's granted passage by everyone in times of need.
- Rogue drones not only can communicate to us, they have granted passage to Sisters of EVE in the past, hence the captain tries to do it this time, no 'Darwing Award' deserved.
- As rogue drones are a creation gone wrong of a Gallente scientist (is in one of the cronicles) and can communicate with humans, it is possible that Amarr scientists have come to some understanding with them and have some kind of deal.
- The banished Mimmatar Fleet may be still alive and is probably trying to return home.
- A continuos stream of '1' received of any communications channel its the rogue drone equivalent of the 'YARR!!!' of war, i you ever come across it, check your surroundings and be ready for battle.
- The Blood Raider and Thukker Tribe chasers may be about to arrive to the Sisters of EVE Apocalypse battleship.
- The cloaked Abbadon should have already detected drone's attack on the captain's ship.
Thanks for the chronicles CCP, they are just the perfect apperitive before what could be the biggest change to EVE...ever.
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Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari Sane Industries Inc. Ursa Stellar Initiative
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Posted - 2009.02.03 08:43:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Kylegar For the first time in a while, I'm dissapointed. I saw the last two chronicles evolving into a great chase, with the sisters of eve searching, the blood raiders trying to hunt them, and the Thukkers trying to kill the blood raiders, and discovering the superweapon at the same time the sisters did.
So you're saying the chronicle mirrors real life, where people make irrational and generally just plain dump decisions when greed takes over? And it leads to a pathetic and untimely death, plus lots of suffering?
Naah, bring back the plots that pushes our suspense of disbelief towards human behavior to the limit, and beyond. Those makes such great stories.
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Xia Kairui
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Posted - 2009.02.03 08:57:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Zel Nughat
Rogue drones not only can communicate to us, ...
There even is a rogue drone agent somewhere in the Gallente COSMOS. When I ran the mission her avatar was labelled "Jove" but I think that was only because the database only knows the four player races plus Jove. In any case, she can quite clearly communicate, although you need to find some gizmo first (IOW, a haul mission) so you can accept her real mission. See http://www.eve-wiki.net/index.php?title=Drone_Mind_(1/2)_01010011_01001111_01010011_(L3)(Rogue_Drones)(Serpentis)
Originally by: Zel Nughat
A continuos stream of '1' received of any communications channel its the rogue drone equivalent of the 'YARR!!!' of war, i you ever come across it, check your surroundings and be ready for battle.
There is, or was, a regular agent mission where you face rogue drones. When you warp to the first stage a popup opens with some binary in it, and some guy translated it as regular ASCII message going something like "WE WILL PWN YOU" or such smack. Can't find a link to that at the moment though.
So a) drones can definitely communicate b) they speak the default language known in the EVE cluster c) they actually send the ASCII representation of the digits, which is extremely inefficient :)
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ollobrains2
Gallente New Eve Order Holdings
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Posted - 2009.02.03 09:59:00 -
[66]
ccp may be able to expand that with more sentient drones |
Poreuomai
Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.02.03 11:00:00 -
[67]
Edited by: Poreuomai on 03/02/2009 11:03:22
Originally by: Zel Nughat
A continuos stream of '1' received of any communications channel its the rogue drone equivalent of the 'YARR!!!' of war, i you ever come across it, check your surroundings and be ready for battle.
Perhaps the beginning of the message was lost and all they received was the last part of some serious smack: !!!!!!1111111eleven!!!111
Originally by: Xia Kairui There is, or was, a regular agent mission where you face rogue drones. When you warp to the first stage a popup opens with some binary in it, and some guy translated it as regular ASCII message going something like "WE WILL PWN YOU" or such smack. Can't find a link to that at the moment though.
http://www.eve-search.com/thread/987311#4
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Aldrith Shutaq
Amarr Ordo Nigrorum Susurri Ordo Magna
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Posted - 2009.02.03 11:03:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Zel Nughat
The banished Mimmatar Fleet may be still alive and is probably trying to return home.
That fleet didn't get banished. It got asploded. It was very pertty and flashy and made me happy.
However... the thought that either the Blood Raiders or the Thukkers might get their hands on that weapon makes me worried. Very much so.
Abraxis... don't screw Amarr! Please? I'll send you cookies! |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2009.02.03 11:17:00 -
[69]
Edited by: Destination SkillQueue on 03/02/2009 11:25:32
Originally by: Aldrith Shutaq
Edit: And what's with all the nay-sayers trying to find plot holes and scientific impossibilities? Just enjoy the damn story and stop making yourself look like the bitter sci-fi nerds you are.
Can you enjoy a story, if all you see is plot holes and people acting in implausable ways just because the plot demands it? These chronicles are so random and short, that it doesn't bother me in the least, but people following things closely or who are experienced in writing propably can't help but notice these things.
EDIT: Constructive criticism is never a bad thing. You need the feedback, if you want to improve your writing. I used to write walls of text with horrible grammar and didn't think how it all came across to others. It was pretty hard to follow. More random flow of thought than well thought out writing. I'm still far from a good writer, but thanks to some constructive criticism I've improved a lot. |
ollobrains2
Gallente New Eve Order Holdings
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Posted - 2009.02.03 11:20:00 -
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we have approximatley 4 more chronciles yet before deployment i think the blood raider and thukker ships might go kaboomies to |
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Jahah Smith
Amarr Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.02.03 11:24:00 -
[71]
Originally by: SGT LaForge Edited by: SGT LaForge on 02/02/2009 23:18:54
There is another perhaps hint in the last video released at the very end. During the battle with Gallente, a small black hole or fisher of some sort opens up beside the Gallente Titan...
Thats the graphic of the Erebrus's Doomsday Device |
Leopold Caine
Amarr Ordo Nigrorum Susurri Ordo Magna
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Posted - 2009.02.03 11:45:00 -
[72]
Yes, it has a bit of a far fetched feel to it, but... I'll wait for the other chronicles before fully commenting.
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Jericho Alar
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2009.02.03 12:50:00 -
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Originally by: Mark Foley Ah, dear.
Rogue Drones harvest what from a sun? Unlikely. Droney droney melty. Just because CCP is too lazy to fix the clipping so that we can fly inside suns doesn't mean they can get away with this kind of stuff.
The density of this rogue drone superstructure, being larger than stars, as described, would create a gravity well that would act similar to a black hole, or a supermassive star, dragging everything around it toward it. Thus drones, SoE ships etc would not be able to function nearby.
Depending on density, the star would collapse under its own gravity and create lovely Mr Black hole.
It would either pull the sun into it, or vice versa? Considering the drones built it, they likly build it orbiting the sun, yet as its size grows they cannot move it into a different position.
Good read, too many holes though.
Also the plot line sucks.
size != mass -> being a superstructure large enough to eclipse suns doesn't necessarily imply mass on the same order of magnitude.
all of your assumptions concerning super massive collapse/black holes/major gravity wells would only apply if it were an incredibly massive structure; and not just a large one.
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Typhado3
Minmatar Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2009.02.03 13:16:00 -
[74]
Quote: "On the other side of that hive is the superweapon Jamyl Sarum used to repel the Minmatar invasion. It is the largest, most powerful weapon the world has ever known."
He paused, surveying his people.
"I want it," he said.
seems like something I would say.... didn't expect this from a sister. tbh I probably could understand his attempt to talk to the drones.... but i woulda packed a cloak and kept it running before I tried talking to them. |
Nomakai Delateriel
Amarr Ammatar Free Corps
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Posted - 2009.02.03 15:01:00 -
[75]
Meh. I can't believe that you've so far failed to realize that "1" in binary is an expression of yes/positive/on.
This combined with the last line: "And the ship's captain learned that faith is not enough, for faith is blind by nature. Life needs insight. It is the dead, and the dying, that allow themselves to be led."
In my opinion the drones were saying that they were alive, truly alive, and thus truly thinking. As such they wouldn't be constrained by mere faith, tradition and function. That they wouldn't be led or controlled by anything but their own rationality. |
Zargyl
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Posted - 2009.02.03 15:16:00 -
[76]
Yep nice story! And I do like all the tie ins with the incredible Empyrean Age novel! :) Though I second that the captian was very simple minded to try to reason with drones who do have quite a low chance to have a programming that enables them to solve morality dilemmas (looks like he wasnÆt that much of a scientist as I would have liked to believe from the beginning).
In regard to "parking" the superweapon: Well looks like Sarum wanted to hide that ship and I guess that near that super-isogen-5-hive is a quite secure place to do that. It might also have been an idea of the ôtrueö Sarum to limit her own access to the weapon.
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Myrhial Arkenath
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2009.02.03 15:57:00 -
[77]
Another enjoyable part to this series. Looking forward to see it continue on. |
Faraelle Brightman
Gallente Placid Reborn
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Posted - 2009.02.03 17:14:00 -
[78]
Originally by: SGT LaForge There is another perhaps hint in the last video released at the very end. During the battle with Gallente, a small black hole or fisher of some sort opens up beside the Gallente Titan... So it looks like Either Gallente have obtained/developed a new superweapon "possibly with the help of Jove, since Jove likes Gallente the most, and SOE is a branched faction of them... Or, that black hole is a weapon being launched against the Titan, but I vote its Gallente's new weapon.
Military experts tell us that what you saw is the normal Doomsday effect of the Erebus-class Titan, in what is coloquialy called a "hotdrop" manuver. -----------------------
"Every once in a while, declare peace. It confuses the hell out of your enemies." |
Roc Wieler
Freeform Industries
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Posted - 2009.02.03 19:49:00 -
[79]
I thought at the end of the EA novel, that the whole "incident" with Sarum's clone was the Broker inserting himself into her mind, in addition to her own mind.
As for everything odd that has happened since then, I think it's all within the plan of the Broker, only slowly being revealed to us over time. |
Armoured Gamer
Gallente Globaltech Industries The ENTITY.
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Posted - 2009.02.04 07:34:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Faraelle Brightman
Originally by: SGT LaForge There is another perhaps hint in the last video released at the very end. During the battle with Gallente, a small black hole or fisher of some sort opens up beside the Gallente Titan... So it looks like Either Gallente have obtained/developed a new superweapon "possibly with the help of Jove, since Jove likes Gallente the most, and SOE is a branched faction of them... Or, that black hole is a weapon being launched against the Titan, but I vote its Gallente's new weapon.
Military experts tell us that what you saw is the normal Doomsday effect of the Erebus-class Titan, in what is coloquialy called a "hotdrop" manuver.
it was the slowest hot drop everrrrrr
i mean the time it got it self out of the hole in reality everyship would of bunkered there gonads in side there ship and GTF out of dodge |
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Dr Karsun
Gallente Integrity.
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Posted - 2009.02.04 08:09:00 -
[81]
Great chronicle. I expect another one, as it wasn't said that the drones destroyed the hull.
Any way, negotiating with the drones may have been a good idea, but I would do it rather like "aling to nearest celestial object, send message, warp out when they start hitting the shield".
Any way, a great chronicle *clap clap clap* |
Dennmoth Ferdier
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Posted - 2009.02.04 08:44:00 -
[82]
Edited by: Dennmoth Ferdier on 04/02/2009 08:44:59 I'm surprised to see the fact that this abaddon integrated superweapon has already been showed to us has been mentioned only once in this thread and left without notice.
edit: There was a vid about the amarr fleet clashing with the minmatar, where an abaddon launched a black-bluish energy sphere from its front that seemingly jumped from ship to ship, destroying them all.
I betcha the vid caused some speculation, but only now the lines between the dots start to connect.
Somehow this chronicle lights up a small glimpse of hope as to a new superweapon-class ship per race. Highly doubtful, 99.9% or so, but one can always hope :/ |
HankMurphy
Minmatar Pelennor Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.02.04 09:19:00 -
[83]
Where is Laurence Fishburn and an EMP generator when you need them?
Good chronicle, I liked it very much and look forward to the next! ---------- "This is Chopper Dave's made for TV movie, Blades Of Vengeance. See, he's a chopper pilot by day, but by night he fights crime as a werewolf... YEAH!" |
Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2009.02.04 13:16:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Gil Danastre
Originally by: Steve Zodiak
This immediately brought to my mind "The Eighth Plague", which I have just enjoyed re-reading.
Can someone tell me who wrote this and the previous two Chronicles?
That Abraxas guy who made this thread.
Eighth Plague was me :) |
Spurty
Caldari Amok. Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.02.04 13:17:00 -
[85]
man teh laz0rs ... pew pew ...---... esplodes!
Heh I like the short stories .. just right length for where I read em. Its all Gallente fault what with their slave drones getting lose and going native!!! |
Pottsey
Enheduanni Foundation
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Posted - 2009.02.04 13:30:00 -
[86]
YunFu Yan said ôIt feels silly and unrealistic that anyone would believe negotiation with rogue drones is possible, especially when their aggressive nature has proven itself so often already.ö I have negotiated with rouge drones before and got rewards off them and so have other pilots. There is a trick to it.
There are missions where NPCs are hiding with the drones and have some sort of cease fire negotiated with the drones. The novel had drones that would negotiate.
Adaera said ôI was under the impression the Jove had the best relations with the Caldari; they've been in a lot of trade agreements at least.ö Considering the Elder are really Jove running the Minmatar one could argue they have the best relations to the Jove. Then again the Elder Jove bought down the 2nd Jove Empire and are not that popular with the main Jove group.
____ Telltale sign of their presence is non-linear teleportation (www.eve-online.com/races/theodicy/Theodicy_All.pdf)
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2009.02.04 14:25:00 -
[87]
Of course you can negotiate with drones. Most folks just haven't figured out how to yet. The halfwit toasters you see floating in space are kind of a lower genus of drone - keep in mind there's sentient drones out there.
Another thing to keep in mind is that while humans acquire knowledge incrementally, drone intelligence evolves exponentially. The first one went nutso about 25 years ago - it's had all that time to learn. Imagine doubling your learning and capacity for knowledge every second, and you'll see why they've figured out how to mine blue giant stars.
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Lolitassa
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Posted - 2009.02.04 17:45:00 -
[88]
Wonderful Artwork |
Adaris
Gallente E X I U S
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Posted - 2009.02.04 20:03:00 -
[89]
Originally by: HankMurphy Where is Laurence Fishburn and an EMP generator when you need them?
THIS
Great read. moar *******
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Malthros Zenobia
Cadian Special Operations Command
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Posted - 2009.02.04 23:22:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Pottsey YunFu Yan said ôIt feels silly and unrealistic that anyone would believe negotiation with rogue drones is possible, especially when their aggressive nature has proven itself so often already.ö I have negotiated with rouge drones before and got rewards off them and so have other pilots. There is a trick to it.
There are missions where NPCs are hiding with the drones and have some sort of cease fire negotiated with the drones. The novel had drones that would negotiate.
Adaera said ôI was under the impression the Jove had the best relations with the Caldari; they've been in a lot of trade agreements at least.ö Considering the Elder are really Jove running the Minmatar one could argue they have the best relations to the Jove. Then again the Elder Jove bought down the 2nd Jove Empire and are not that popular with the main Jove group.
1. Those drones aren't Rogue Drones you're talking about in the novel. The Rogue Drones in the novel didn't negotiate.
2. Proof or STFU. There's no fiction that states the Elders are Jove. they are referred to as mythical and the best of the tribes, that's about the extent of it. Not sure where you are getting the Jove-Elder stuff from. Confusing it with player fiction?
Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
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kano donn
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Posted - 2009.02.05 08:38:00 -
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anyone notice that the abaddon was made in parts? and that it was powered by a new rare substance? maybe thats a T3 ship? we take it back and break it down, then make T3 from it?
also with the drones, what if they are making a structure to block the gates? and by introducing the iso5 its a way to break down gates? maybe that will be a part of the new gates that open up. you have the ability to use the iso to break them down.
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Pottsey
Enheduanni Foundation
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Posted - 2009.02.05 08:39:00 -
[92]
Malthros Zenobia said "2. Proof or STFU. There's no fiction that states the Elders are Jove. they are referred to as mythical and the best of the tribes, that's about the extent of it. Not sure where you are getting the Jove-Elder stuff from. Confusing it with player fiction?"
No its game fiction or was, ask on the Jove channel a number of people will confirm. I asked the devs if it's still valid in the ask any question thread everything will be answer by a devs. These are all the uncovered Jove bloodlines.
"Jove Statics The different branches of Jovians that exist are not the result of variations in geographical or climatic differences, but rather that of genetic engineering through the centuries. The Statics are one of the two main branches. Statics are generally introvert and prefer status quo, both socially and biologically. The Statics regard themselves as observers that should interfere as little as possible with the world. They believe that they are as genetically evolved as can be and generally frown upon large-scale genetic engineering programs. The male part of the Statics is often aloof and condescending. They are the biggest hoarders of knowledge there is, but they enjoy sitting on their knowledge like dragons on gold, reveling in the knowledge of their own importance. Fortunately, they rarely use their power to influence world events.
The female part of the Statics is more open and friendly to outsiders. Though they are driven by curiosity the same as their male counterparts, they don't have the pathological need to sit on it by themselves and are generally quite willing to share in their discoveries. Female Statics pass for what can be termed leaders in the Jovian Empire; other Jovians acknowledge that their stable nature and extensive knowledge makes them best suited for the task.
Jove Modifiers The different branches of Jovians that exist are not the result of variations in geographical or climatic differences, but rather that of genetic engineering through the centuries. The Modifiers are the enthusiasts of the Jovian family. They are curious and constantly willing to try or experience something new and fresh. Modifiers have lower life expectancy that other Jovians and are more susceptible to the dreaded Jovian Disease. It seems that by constantly living on the edge makes them burn out faster. Male Modifiers are constantly in search of something new and different and can never stay in the same place for long. They're fickle and undisciplined compared to other Jovians and are prone to manic-depression. They are also the most reckless, which most often takes them into trouble, but sometimes it results in some spectacular new discovery that would otherwise never have been found. Female Modifiers are renowned within the Jovian Empire for their constant body enhancing experiments. More than any other group, female Modifiers are taking genetic engineering to the extreme and back. There is little rhyme or reasons in their experiments, as they're most often done on individual level. Although the results are often disastrous many Jovians put more stock in the chaotic gene therapies of the female Modifiers for finding cure to the Jovian Disease than the more respectable formal research teams.
Elders The Elders were one of the first groups to use genetic engineering for a special purpose, namely that of slowing the aging process. Once, the Elders were a prominent political force in the Jovian society, but after they brought about the fall of the first Jovian empire they have become more reclusive. Elders can become many centuries old, it's uncertain exactly how old they can become, but some suggest they can outlive even members of the Amarrian royal families. |
Pottsey
Enheduanni Foundation
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Posted - 2009.02.05 08:40:00 -
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Edited by: Pottsey on 05/02/2009 08:39:57 Unsullied Genetic engineering has through the centuries transformed Jovian society in every aspect imaginable. Many Jovians believe that enough has been done. The Unsullied is a group of Jovians that have rejected further generic experiments and instead adopt conventional methods to deal with sickness and old age. They are advocates of cyber-implants and want to use machines instead of genes in the search for better life.
Existentialists The Existentialists are the most energetic and vociferous Jovian group. They live for the moment and are always ready to experiment, even with their own bodies. To them, nothing is sacred. The Existentialists tend to have little to do with the other races, as they find them boring and uninspiring.
Puritan Many Jovians dream of returning to their genetic roots, now long since lost during the Shrouded Days. Those that are most active in their search for the 'untainted' Jovian genes are called the Puritans. In the hope of cleansing the nation of the Jovian Disease the Puritans try out ever-more outrageous genetic engineering stunts, often with quite unexpected results. But unlike the Existentialists the genetic engineering of the Puritans has the specific aim to return the human element to the Jovians, instead of being just narcissistic in nature.
Lab Rat All Jovians are artificially conceived. In most cases a family unit is involved, donating genes, taking care of the rearing and so on, but this is not always so. Often, persons are conceived for some altruist reasons, usually research purposes. These Jovians are treated the same as everyone else, but they tend to be a little 'off', due to the clinical way of their conceivement.
Stasis People For many Jovians their race is in the twilight of their greatness. Ever since the fall of the first empire the Jovian society have been in a slow, steady decline. Most blame the Jovian Disease for this and believe that the Jovians can only hope to turn the tide once a cure for the disease has been found. The Stasis People are Jovians that voluntarily go into cryo-stasis for decades or centuries, hoping that when they wake a bright and better world will greet them.[/b] |
Excellent Roze
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.02.05 11:15:00 -
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1 word to describe this ... WOW!!!
I want this turned into a novel and published then i would definitely buy it. I have a feeling I wouldn't be the only one either.
Seriously the people who are writing this should publish something. If you already have then please let me know who you are and a title :P
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Dennmoth Ferdier
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Posted - 2009.02.05 20:32:00 -
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Originally by: kano donn anyone notice that the abaddon was made in parts? and that it was powered by a new rare substance? maybe thats a T3 ship? we take it back and break it down, then make T3 from it?
also with the drones, what if they are making a structure to block the gates? and by introducing the iso5 its a way to break down gates? maybe that will be a part of the new gates that open up. you have the ability to use the iso to break them down.
t3 ships most apparently use either ONLY parts, or entirely new hulls upon which the parts are laid. In any case, they will not resemble or have nothing to do with the previous models.
The stuff to build them are gotten from the far reaches of the universe, through the upcoming wormholes, from the new rat faction. Has nothing to do with amarr empire, super pimped abaddon or not.
Isogen 5 is just an element that will cause a cataclysm to rip open the wormholes in the lore, it's most likely it will never be introduced in to the game itself. The current gate system will be untouched as the march expansion is not about modifying the old, it's about adding new. Besides, it's common sense ccp would never cause such calamity by adding an option to "block" the gates like that, or if they would, not without hype from the devs.
I'm also curious as to why you refer to the wormholes as gates? Are you maybe misinformed about the nature and extent of this next expansion? ------ Heart for isk, Balls for risk. |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Amarr Dissonance Corp Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.02.06 09:20:00 -
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Edited by: Nicolo da''Vicenza on 06/02/2009 09:20:49 press "1" for fleet op
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thegallenteamarrguy
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Posted - 2009.02.07 18:33:00 -
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Definitely one of my favorite articles. I myself have not read the empyrean age novel, if that has any connection. To be honest when i was reading through this i thought.. "heh CCP is playing a comedy act on us... the abaddon is the ammo for the super weapon... and the super weapon was the gigantic station" of course by reading onto the end i learned that, that was incorrect... i want more :) |
Mithfindel
Gallente Zenko Group
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Posted - 2009.02.09 21:24:00 -
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Quote: Elders The Elders were one of the first groups to use genetic engineering for a special purpose, namely that of slowing the aging process. Once, the Elders were a prominent political force in the Jovian society, but after they brought about the fall of the first Jovian empire they have become more reclusive. Elders can become many centuries old, it's uncertain exactly how old they can become, but some suggest they can outlive even members of the Amarrian royal families.
Some religious figures can also be called "Elders" - I'm not sure if there are Blood Raider Elders in the game, but even if there were, it doesn't mean that the Jove would control the Blooders. Similarily, a "Sleeper" is not the same as a "sleeper agent". Using a well-known player event as an example, one could say that Arenis Xemdal was a sleeper agent in the Aegis Militia (for Istvaan's merry crew), but it doesn't mean that DigitalCommunist is Jove.
So, saying that Jove have "Elders" doesn't in any way remove the possibility that the Minmatar do also have "Elders" and the two being completely unrelated. The only possible connection between the two might be the Jove interest of them in Theodicy, though admittedly, it's been a long time since I've read Theodicy. Noting that they're assumed to be alive in the Empyrean Age novel, we may assume that the Elder is a kind of an office (or a secret society) amongst the leaders of the tribes - similar to the alledgedly ancient office of the Sanmatar. The Jove might have been helping the Elders, admittedly, as it would be the standard EVE deus ex machina, but this far we don't have actual proof of that, either, as the only thing actually said about Jove in the Empyrean Age was that no one had heard anything about them in a long time. Apparently there are Jove corps existing in New Eden connected to the gate network, but we may assume they're manned with local people. |
Pottsey
Enheduanni Foundation
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Posted - 2009.02.11 07:46:00 -
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Edited by: Pottsey on 11/02/2009 07:47:50 I agree mostly with your post but it's more than just the name the two share. In the Jove channel when we chat about stuff like this I usually say I am not entirely convinced about this, just mostly.
As you pointed out the Jove tried to rescue the Elders which is very unjove like and the few facts on both Elders are the same. More importantly the Minmatar Elders appear to be impossible old just like the Jove Elders. There are only two groups I recall that become many centuries old and outlive Amarrian royal families. The Minmatar and Jove Elders. I agree it's not 100% clear both are the same but there is a lot to point towards them being the same. The Minatar Elders being Jove seems the best way to explain the super long life of the Minatars Elders. But with both groups being very reclusive its hard to get 100% clear facts. Reclusive being yet another trait both share.
Mithfindel said " Similarily, a "Sleeper" is not the same as a "sleeper agent"." When I came up with the theory the Sleepers are part of the Enheduanni it had nothing much to do with the name. When I made that long post about it, I don't think I once posted the Sleeper name as a link between the two.
EDIT: The New wormhole systems and Sleepers NPC share even more facts with the Enheduanni. It's still only a theory not proven but it's looking more like the two are linked.
____ Telltale sign of their presence is non-linear teleportation (www.eve-online.com/races/theodicy/Theodicy_All.pdf)
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Chance Kristopher
Gallente The Exeter Group The Amp Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.02.11 11:23:00 -
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Amazing. ****ing amazing.
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Firekeeper
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Posted - 2009.02.11 15:30:00 -
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Mithfindel
Gallente Zenko Group
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Posted - 2009.02.12 13:49:00 -
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Originally by: Pottsey More importantly the Minmatar Elders appear to be impossible old just like the Jove Elders.
I'd have to check, but I'd personally attribute the "Phantom" here. The Elders in Theodicy seemed pretty normal humans, and we didn't get a good glance on the Elders in EA, as they used smoke & mirrors. Whatever the characters say might be just propaganda - on the Amarr view of things, the Emperor would live 800+ years (Heideran VII) on God's will alone, with the divine implants being a mark of this (whereas it would actually be the other way). Also, assuming that each tribe doesn't have multiple Elders at once, and the Minmatar Elders were the real thing, the current tribal Elders are not much older than a century or a two, which would be still quite young for Amarr royals. (Aritcio Kor-Azor's birthday is known - can't remember his exact age, but I think he's a young handsome prince in his mid-110s.)
Also back to the chron, that'd likely be an infested Terran space station. I wonder how much the drones have built it, and how much of the bulk is original? Drones having a taste of Terran tech would be pretty much the end of days for anyone trying to resist them, unless someone actually fed them A.I. routines that are capable of negotiation. (Sure, there are a few examples of special "agent" drones.)
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Adrian Reed
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Posted - 2009.02.12 19:13:00 -
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Very well written keep them coming only problem how stupid can the captain be to think the drones will respond to humans
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Malthros Zenobia
Cadian Special Operations Command
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Posted - 2009.02.13 01:36:00 -
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Edited by: Malthros Zenobia on 13/02/2009 01:42:40
Originally by: Pottsey Elders The Elders were one of the first groups to use genetic engineering for a special purpose, namely that of slowing the aging process. Once, the Elders were a prominent political force in the Jovian society, but after they brought about the fall of the first Jovian empire they have become more reclusive. Elders can become many centuries old, it's uncertain exactly how old they can become, but some suggest they can outlive even members of the Amarrian royal families.
All the game tags about Elders points to Jove Elders kind of gives it away. The Minmatar and Jove elders are ancient centuries old, living longer than normal or what should be possible further pointing to them being the same. The Elders being as long lived as they are makes sense if the Jove Elders are the same due to "use genetic engineering for a special purpose, namely that of slowing the aging process how else could the Minmatar Elder live for so long?
It's pretty clear you've read Theodicy.
I suggest you go read it again, you'll see it's plainly spelled out that the Minmatar Elders are not Jove. The book will also help you with it. The minmatar elders are not 'alien'. Are you trying to claim that a similar-named bloodline is your proof of the Minmatar Elders being Jove? Interesting theory, but it clashes with what's written in the fiction itself. Theodicy mentions the Elder come from each of their minmatar ribes they represent. You'd have to have some pseudo jove-minmatar racial background mix for the Elders to be elder bloodline jove.
Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
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Pottsey
Enheduanni Foundation
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Posted - 2009.02.13 08:05:00 -
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The thing about the story is not everything you read is correct. Some characters lie. Others give misinformation and some characters give information they think is true that turns out to be wrong. Characters pretend to be races they are not.
I could be wrong about the Jove elders but there is a fair amount of evidence to point towards it. Like the ancestryid tags in the game files all the race bloodlines are grouped together. Early 20's to tag 25 are Minimater and tag 26 is Elder meaning it could well be in the Minimater group. Granted that could be a Jove bloodline but being right next to the Minimatre group could be another link. Or it could be fluke, but there are so many links now it's getting less likely to just be fluke. In my first post I shouldnt have said the Elders are Jove, I should have said theres a decent possibility the Elders are Jove.
"You'd have to have some pseudo jove-minmatar racial background mix for the Elders to be elder bloodline jove." It's happened so many times now it's perfectly reasonable to happen again. Many people change their bloodlines to appear like other races. Any Pod pilot can do it in the story. The Jove Elders could be pretending to be minmatar as they are not welcome in Jove space and want to keep out the way.
____ Telltale sign of their presence is non-linear teleportation (www.eve-online.com/races/theodicy/Theodicy_All.pdf)
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