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Dave stark Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore 112	Posted - 2012.07.07 18:35:00 - [121] - Quote Alexander Sinclair wrote: Dave stark wrote: Lukriss wrote: Why does everyone just assume that the Commandships/Dictors will require BC/Dessie V? because they're t2 hulls, and ccp have already said t2 hulls will require the t1 hull at V. frig IV -> destroyers. frig V -> interceptors/AF/cov ops/electronic whatsit. hence, destroyers V will be needed for dictors, and bc V will be needed for command ships. infact, there's a few flow chart type things ccp drew up to illustrate the ship progression stuff. Hmmm you may be right but all the non Dictor and CS tech 2 hull skills weren't bound to a racial ship type, because they were made to work with all the racial hull types of the qualifying class, maybe you just need 1 racial hull to unlock the skill or something. you needed racial cruisers as a prereq to individual battle cruisers, the racial cruiser skill will be a prereq to the racial battle cruiser skill not the racial ship if that makes sense? so where as currently for the vulture you need caldari cruisers V, in the future if ccp sticks to their plan you should only need IV (for caldari battle cruiser skill) and then caldari battle cruiser skill at V + command ships whatever level + what ever else you need for a command ship.
Alexander Sinclair Space Exploitation Inc Mordus Angels 0	Posted - 2012.07.07 18:47:00 - [122] - Quote Dave stark wrote: Alexander Sinclair wrote: Dave stark wrote: Lukriss wrote: Why does everyone just assume that the Commandships/Dictors will require BC/Dessie V? because they're t2 hulls, and ccp have already said t2 hulls will require the t1 hull at V. frig IV -> destroyers. frig V -> interceptors/AF/cov ops/electronic whatsit. hence, destroyers V will be needed for dictors, and bc V will be needed for command ships. infact, there's a few flow chart type things ccp drew up to illustrate the ship progression stuff. Hmmm you may be right but all the non Dictor and CS tech 2 hull skills weren't bound to a racial ship type, because they were made to work with all the racial hull types of the qualifying class, maybe you just need 1 racial hull to unlock the skill or something. you needed racial cruisers as a prereq to individual battle cruisers, the racial cruiser skill will be a prereq to the racial battle cruiser skill not the racial ship if that makes sense? so where as currently for the vulture you need caldari cruisers V, in the future if ccp sticks to their plan you should only need IV (for caldari battle cruiser skill) and then caldari battle cruiser skill at V + command ships whatever level + what ever else you need for a command ship. Yeah I edited my post I think you just meant the Command/Dictor Ship Requirements and not the Skillbooks themselves being split up as well.
Miss Hurricane Project Maverick IMPERIAL LEGI0N 0	Posted - 2012.07.09 20:38:00 - [123] - Quote Will they not just remove the skill completely and reimburse you with the skillpoints that you have spent in that skill to then reallocate to which ever skill you desire like they did with the learning skill books (attribute increase skills)?
Mavnas The Scope Gallente Federation 35	Posted - 2012.07.09 21:39:00 - [124] - Quote Miss Hurricane wrote: Will they not just remove the skill completely and reimburse you with the skillpoints that you have spent in that skill to then reallocate to which ever skill you desire like they did with the learning skill books (attribute increase skills)? Unless the new skills are much cheaper, that would violate the if you could fly it before, you can fly it now rule.
Sarah Schneider PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore 1395	Posted - 2012.07.10 10:22:00 - [125] - Quote Already did. Even without the planned changes those two skills are boss. Don't like spaceships sandbox? then this is not the game for you. "I think weGÇÖre just getting closer and closer to a place where the people we lose are people that itGÇÖs okay to lose." -Kristoffer Touborg, Eve lead designer
Elsbeth Taron Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 6	Posted - 2012.07.10 11:00:00 - [126] - Quote Jorma Morkkis wrote: Elsbeth Taron wrote: How about the relevant destroyer requiring racial frigate V in order to fly it, with the destroyer skill giving extra bonuses, not much change from now? So destroyers would be T2 frigates, eh? They DO use the same sized modules and weapons as frigates. This points to destroyers not being a separate class of ship. However, they wouldn't T2 ships, not sure how you made that connection. Just because it would require racial frigate 5 to train? The destroyers for the four races are pretty much the same: lots of turrets and good tracking. It would make sense for there to be only one skill to train to enable flying this type of ship, rather than a racial skill for each race, unless the destroyers' capability diverge a lot more than now.
Charlie Jacobson 23	Posted - 2012.07.18 07:25:00 - [127] - Quote How long do we have until this change hits? I'm currently on an INT/MEM remap.
Dave stark Perkone Caldari State 194	Posted - 2012.07.18 08:03:00 - [128] - Quote Charlie Jacobson wrote: How long do we have until this change hits? I'm currently on an INT/MEM remap. quite a while, they want to re-balance the destroyers before they change the skills for destroyers, then they'll be doing cruisers, then battlecruisers (again, ships first then skills) and considering we're still on frigates... i wouldn't worry too much. Reading my posts is like panning for gold; most it will be useless, but occasionally you'll find a nugget of gold.
Darius Brinn Iberians Iberians. 74	Posted - 2012.07.18 10:55:00 - [129] - Quote Dave stark wrote: Charlie Jacobson wrote: How long do we have until this change hits? I'm currently on an INT/MEM remap. quite a while, they want to re-balance the destroyers before they change the skills for destroyers, then they'll be doing cruisers, then battlecruisers (again, ships first then skills) and considering we're still on frigates... i wouldn't worry too much. **** it. I will play the OCD guy and train to V WHATEVER might be even REMOTELY affected by the changes to Destroyers and Battlecruisers. Before the end of the year, I will finish training all racial frigates and cruisers to V, Interdictors V and Command Ships V, which is no small fear seeing as I never invested a single SP in any Leadership. Until I'm done with this, screw every other training. Yes, I will train Amarr Cruiser V despite not even having Small energy turret injected (yet...). And if it all comes to zero, I hear good things about the Sabre and the Sleipnir/Claymore and having them at V can't hurt.
Dave stark Perkone Caldari State 195	Posted - 2012.07.18 11:55:00 - [130] - Quote Darius Brinn wrote: Dave stark wrote: Charlie Jacobson wrote: How long do we have until this change hits? I'm currently on an INT/MEM remap. quite a while, they want to re-balance the destroyers before they change the skills for destroyers, then they'll be doing cruisers, then battlecruisers (again, ships first then skills) and considering we're still on frigates... i wouldn't worry too much. **** it. I will play the OCD guy and train to V WHATEVER might be even REMOTELY affected by the changes to Destroyers and Battlecruisers. Before the end of the year, I will finish training all racial frigates and cruisers to V, Interdictors V and Command Ships V, which is no small fear seeing as I never invested a single SP in any Leadership. Until I'm done with this, screw every other training. Yes, I will train Amarr Cruiser V despite not even having Small energy turret injected (yet...). And if it all comes to zero, I hear good things about the Sabre and the Sleipnir/Claymore and having them at V can't hurt. the joy of this game is that eventually, at some point, you'll find a use for some thing you trained eons ago without knowing why you trained it. also on the first weekend of the alliance tournament slep/slep/scim setups were quite popular, so i'd say it never hurts to be able to fly a sleipnir. Reading my posts is like panning for gold; most it will be useless, but occasionally you'll find a nugget of gold.
Darius Brinn Iberians Iberians. 74	Posted - 2012.07.18 14:20:00 - [131] - Quote Dave stark wrote: Darius Brinn wrote: Dave stark wrote: Charlie Jacobson wrote: How long do we have until this change hits? I'm currently on an INT/MEM remap. quite a while, they want to re-balance the destroyers before they change the skills for destroyers, then they'll be doing cruisers, then battlecruisers (again, ships first then skills) and considering we're still on frigates... i wouldn't worry too much. **** it. I will play the OCD guy and train to V WHATEVER might be even REMOTELY affected by the changes to Destroyers and Battlecruisers. Before the end of the year, I will finish training all racial frigates and cruisers to V, Interdictors V and Command Ships V, which is no small fear seeing as I never invested a single SP in any Leadership. Until I'm done with this, screw every other training. Yes, I will train Amarr Cruiser V despite not even having Small energy turret injected (yet...). And if it all comes to zero, I hear good things about the Sabre and the Sleipnir/Claymore and having them at V can't hurt. the joy of this game is that eventually, at some point, you'll find a use for some thing you trained eons ago without knowing why you trained it. also on the first weekend of the alliance tournament slep/slep/scim setups were quite popular, so i'd say it never hurts to be able to fly a sleipnir. The Sleipnir has always been some kind of "high end" goal for this newb. A ship I've seen in action by competent pilots and which can provide a ton of fun and much utility to small gangs. So yes, flying it will be nice. This said, I always start training things that I never use at all: -I have Destroyers V but the only Destroyer hull I've used is the Catalyst...as a Salvager. -I am 2 days and 17 hours from HACs V (yes, stopped it before completion) and I never owned or undocked a HAC at all. -I maxed Recons V for a tackling Arazu...which I have only used to scan Ladar sites in High Sec (shame). Never used it in combat. -And as of today, I am training Caldari Frigate V. Nevermind the fact that I NEVER flew a Caldari frigate, or that I have zero plans of acquiring/flying them in the near future. It's just something you have to have, just in case I fancy a Worm or a Harpy or whatever.
Dave stark Bombardier Inc 195	Posted - 2012.07.18 14:26:00 - [132] - Quote "because i can" is all the justification you need to do anything :P Reading my posts is like panning for gold; most it will be useless, but occasionally you'll find a nugget of gold.
Dirty Monk3y Cataclysm Affliction 0	Posted - 2012.07.26 16:42:00 - [133] - Quote stoicfaux wrote: Don't forget about Jump Freighters. In theory, as tech 2 ships, the ship revamp will require having racial freighter 5 as a prereq (currently freighter 4 is required.) Assuming that CCP doesn't change their mind, anyone who can fly a jump freighter should get a free bump from racial freighter 4 to freighter 5. so what you are saying is Heavy Assault Cruiser, Command ships, Interdictors, Recon Ships. which all require level 4's from prereq to fly will also be taken to 5... I really think you should think before you speak.
Dave stark Bombardier Inc 267	Posted - 2012.07.26 16:44:00 - [134] - Quote Dirty Monk3y wrote: stoicfaux wrote: Don't forget about Jump Freighters. In theory, as tech 2 ships, the ship revamp will require having racial freighter 5 as a prereq (currently freighter 4 is required.) Assuming that CCP doesn't change their mind, anyone who can fly a jump freighter should get a free bump from racial freighter 4 to freighter 5. doubt that will happen but keep wishing it will, ccp have said it will. Reading my posts is like panning for gold; most it will be useless, but occasionally you'll find a nugget of gold.
gulftobay Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 78	Posted - 2012.07.27 19:55:00 - [135] - Quote "So....does everyone have Desssie/BC V" Why yes, I do. Now the questioin is if I should get every Strategic Cruiser. Low self-esteem?-á Bored?-á-áLonely?-á
stoicfaux 1329	Posted - 2012.07.27 20:15:00 - [136] - Quote Dave stark wrote: Dirty Monk3y wrote: stoicfaux wrote: Don't forget about Jump Freighters. In theory, as tech 2 ships, the ship revamp will require having racial freighter 5 as a prereq (currently freighter 4 is required.) Assuming that CCP doesn't change their mind, anyone who can fly a jump freighter should get a free bump from racial freighter 4 to freighter 5. doubt that will happen but keep wishing it will, ccp have said it will. oh wait, yeah needing freighter 5 will happen but being given it for free won't happen. you'll just be able to fly it without the skill. How? They either keep the pre-req at Racial Freighter IV which breaks the proposed paradigm, or they split Jump Freighters into four Racial Jump Freighter skills (which also breaks the proposed paradigm) and require Racial Freighter V just for learning the Racial Jump Freighter skill and requiring just the Racial Jump Freighter to actually fly the ship (thus letting existing pilots fly their Jump Freighters without giving them Racial Freighter V.) Personally, I think it's a 50-50 bet between leaving the pre-req at Freighter IV or just handing out Freighter V due to the "limited" number of people that fly jump freighters. You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
Spr09 East India Ore Trade Intrepid Crossing 41	Posted - 2012.07.29 03:06:00 - [137] - Quote I fly command ships, so ofc I have BC 5. And dessie 5 gives a pretty nice damage boost to tackle thrashers.
Verity Sovereign Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 227	Posted - 2012.09.01 13:17:00 - [138] - Quote So there is still no official word on if any of the skills will be changed in the next expansion?
Mara Pahrdi The Order of Anoyia 18	Posted - 2012.09.01 23:13:00 - [139] - Quote Verity Sovereign wrote: So there is still no official word on if any of the skills will be changed in the next expansion? Really hard to find, these dev blogs, aren't they? http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=72890
Stormmaster Neptunius 1	Posted - 2012.09.02 01:51:00 - [140] - Quote Interesting things! (yes, I was that slow to notice the change just now) I had both Destroyers and Battlecruisers trained to V something like by the end of 2011 - just because I had a perfect remap for that and had been planning to train Interdictors and Command Ships eventually. But I only have two races' frigates and cruisers at Level V, and my current remap is Intelligence/Memory. So I'll wait about the other 2 races at least for now. By the way, CCP blogs say we won't have to train extra skills to be able to fly what we can now. There was no mentioning free SP giveaway. I see it this way: 1. Players will be reimbursed any SP they had in Destroyers skill, which they will be able to allocate otherwise (to new racial destroyer skills or anything else). 2. They will be able to fly those destroyers they had been able before the change, even without training/applying SP to racial destroyers skill. 3. There will be skill-based bonuses making it unwise to fly any destroyers without actually having respective skills trained up. That would compensate for the ability to fly ships without spending SP or training skills. And not that having skill based bonuses was an unusual thing for ships to have anyway ;) So as I see it, everyone flying a destroyer will be able to fly it further on, but to be effective virtually everyone will have to invest into respective skills. I think it is a good idea not to rush into training all these just in a pursuit of slightly possible free SP right now (at least if you have to train on a wrong remap), but wait to see how things progress with destroyers - and then make a decision for Battlecruisers.
Sun Win Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire 65	Posted - 2012.09.02 19:59:00 - [141] - Quote Guys. They were very clear about this. CCP Ytterbium wrote: SKILLS: Destroyer and Battlecruiser reimbursement: it has been said before, but allow us to repeat again, that we do not want to cut ships you can already fly. Thus, having BC skill at 5 would mean you get all four variations at 5. I'll just paste that again in bold and underlined. having BC skill at 5 would mean you get all four variations at 5 Here it is again, with italics. You know, to be sure. having BC skill at 5 would mean you get all four variations at 5
Sun Win Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire 65	Posted - 2012.09.02 20:08:00 - [142] - Quote And here with more details. CCP Ytterbium wrote: Q: can we opt out for skills we don't want during the reimbursement process? A: well, again, it depends on how it is done. We may just bluntly give all four variants at V if you had battlecruiser V for example, or maybe require that you also add the relevant Cruiser skill trained at level 3 to be eligible. On the latter case, just don't train the cruiser 3 skill, and you should not receive the new racial battlecruiser at 5. Not sure why one would do that however, it's like skipping free candy or cake while visiting your grandma. Example: If we go for option 1: you will get Amarr, Caldari, Gallente and Minmatar Battlecruiser skills at 5 if you previously had the generic Battlecruiser skill at 5. If we go for option 2: you will get Amarr Battlecruiser skill at 5 only if you previously fulfilled all conditions to fly Amarr Battlecruisers, which means having the generic Battlecruiser skill at 5, PLUS the Amarr Cruiser at 3. To remind it again, there are other options to consider, but no matter which one which choose, you won't lose anything out of the skill reimbursement plan. Again. We may just bluntly give all four variants at V if you had battlecruiser V for example, or maybe require that you also add the relevant Cruiser skill trained at level 3 to be eligible.
Denal Umbra Coffee Hub 1	Posted - 2012.09.03 14:28:00 - [143] - Quote Interesting, but are the battlecrusiers slated for the 1.3 inferno or later? I thought they are focusing on the mining frigate + the other frigates now and cruisers / bc are coming sometime in spring/next summer?

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